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was a complete sham. This woman threatens to ruin our entire public school system in the United States. She plans to take money from public schools and fund private schools that teach a faith based curriculum. She believes that rather than a constitutional right to protect the interests of disabled children, that it should be left up to the states to decide. She has no experience in a classroom. She has never attended public school (nor has her children). She has never received a loan for college. She has not released her tax returns. She is a billionaire philanthropist who bought her way into the white house. Her first confirmation hearing was a joke, where she dodged questions and refused to make basic reasonable commitments to senators about her intentions if she were to be nominated. Senator Alexander, the chairman of the committee rushed the vote. He then changed rules or added rules that had never existed in previous hearings. This is very real guys. She will impact all of our children's educational futures; I fear it will be for the worse.
chudtime
Btw republicans love to put idiots in charge of things.
monosapien
First we need to stop calling them "schools".
AVeryTallGlassOfIToldYouSo
On the other hand, If trump had a qualified person in his cabinet, that person might feel lonely
mericanidiocracy
itsyaboyDC
She sucks. She needs to be dumped quick. Will make a bad situation worse!
xxoctavianxx
I'm glad my wife and I aren't having kids. But I feel bad for the people that do.
bergmama
She's not right for the role, on that I agree with you, but you come across equally ignorant. You're just fear mongering and being dramatic.
TheLeftPocket
The difference is she is in a position of power and this is a post on imgur. A little less serious don't you think.
HIJKLMNObuddy
It's already been ruined.
chudtime
She is the absolute worst and what's even more evil is how they are gonna screw over the people that support them the most.
chudtime
Southern public schools are the freaking worst
LannistersSendTheirRetards
Gonna put my kids in a Miss Peregrine time loop during the Obama era so they don't have to endure a DeVos/Trump education
TheDudeElDuderino
I'd go pre Bush admin. Don't forget the "No Child Left Behind" nonsense.
SamoniusNightbringer
As long as she gets teh fed out of the schools and gets rid of standardized testing I have no complaints
Woahilikeit
She doesn't even understand how growth vs. proficiency tests would affect the students futures...
ClickAllTheButtons
Hopefully she'll get but by a school bus.
salamander318
I've got a kid on the way. Hopefully, we'll have shit fixed up by the time they're old enough for school.
azazyel
She also didn't know she was on the board of directors for a charity for 13 YEARS. (very sketchy charity too)
azazyel
Sauce https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/01/18/betsy-devoss-13-year-clerical-error/?utm_term=.15c64f6d96de
TellingYouOffWithLuv
As a Trump supporter, I completely agree. Worse choice he ever made. He was looking out for an investor but Hillary would have done the same
bntli
Hillary was a piece of shit, we get it. Bernie would have chosen a qualified and competent candidate though
TellingYouOffWithLuv
Probably... I'm just saying, for not being a politician he sure knew the rules of the game. I still believe it's his worst choice, a wrong 1
somethingdifferentandoriginal
Forget about Hillary. She is no longer an issue. Now the focus is on what we can do to keep cronyism from corrupting our country.
TellingYouOffWithLuv
Wow, In the context of my post she was a factor considering either/or, we'd be in a similar situation....
somethingdifferentandoriginal
Ok but it's not either or because that debate is over. It has been decided so what she may have done is irrelevant. Lets look to the future.
minimeme
Sauce?
Woahilikeit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRBNkMM0-pM
minimeme
Oh my, that's quite the long sauce. I'll take a look at in when I get home tonight. Thanks OP
TheWorstRacist
@crims0ntider this is how you be a human. On that note, imma need some source for your claim that you are indeed a homosapien
TheGrubermeister
Glad I'm never having kids
Beruthiel10
Still impacts you. You'll be working with those kids one day.
TheGrubermeister
Not with the money I'll be saving by not having kids.
5po0ky
Ugh I hate that this is true lol
Majskornsuperstar
I've watched her hearings. Wow! She is really, really stupid. Unprepared, uneducated and most of the time wrong. Also unable to answer...
bntli
I support accountability, I support accountability, I support accountability, I support accountability, I support accountability, I support
Majskornsuperstar
Hahahahaha that one is a classic. It was so obvious she had no clue what the question was about.
bntli
The smug way she was saying it drove me into a raging fury
Majskornsuperstar
It is infuriating to say the least. Grizzly bears...
Woahilikeit
"-dodges question- I look forward to working on that with you -forced smile-"
Majskornsuperstar
It is just insane that someone like her can be appointed such important position. It's like everyone is allowed to participate, if they pay.
bntli
Our government copied an f2p business strategy. It is pay to win
upvotemasta
Oh no! Not faith based curriculum! Anything but that! The children my god what about the children!
ricochetbiscuit
Faith based curriculum is unfair to children of different religions or of no religion, and too often it also ignores or side steps real info
upvotemasta
Oh are you a teacher in a private school?
upvotemasta
Oh are you a teacher in a private school?
upvotemasta
Oh are you a teacher in a private school?
ricochetbiscuit
If I may ask, how is that relevant to my point?
upvotemasta
Don't know why it posted me three times, it's relevant because you have no idea what goes on in private schools yet you claim you do.
ricochetbiscuit
I attended a very strict private school growing up, and when we couldn't afford it any longer, we attended public. Also, it's undeniable 1/?
MarckW
She can't ruin something that is already ruined.
tcdriver
She can make a bad thing worse
MarckW
She wants to give parents and children a choice. What is wrong with that?
5po0ky
http://hub.jhu.edu/2014/06/02/karl-alexander-long-shadow-research/
5po0ky
It leads to even more segregation, and it's more segregated now than before desegregation. It accelerates the disparity in society until we
tcdriver
Her leading the DOE is like Dr. Ben Carson over HUD....its dumb let's Ronald McDonald over the sushi bar
MarckW
Like we put Obama in charge of the country for 8 yrs?
5po0ky
With conservatives yelling so much about the constitution, you'd think having a man with a law degree from Harvard in Constitutional Law
tcdriver
No nothing like that ...nothing at all
5po0ky
It leads to even more segregation, and it's more segregated now than before desegregation. It accelerates the disparity in society until we
5po0ky
Might as well have a caste system like India. The idea today of being able to better your lot in life with a bootstraps mentality is history
MarckW
That's not forced segregation any more than people choosing to shop at Target rather than Walmart.
5po0ky
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/the-return-of-school-segregation-in-eight-charts/
5po0ky
It's forced to the children born to poor parents
MilfusMaximus
Why is it a bad thing to have never attended public school or received a loan for education? Isn't a private education and no debt good?
textilelover
Because she has no first hand experience of how any of it works. Not even second hand experience.
MilfusMaximus
That's fair. But given the state of public education, couldn't that be considered a good thing also? Fresh ideas, fresh outlook, etc.
textilelover
A fresh outlook is fine if you've an understanding of what might not be working & what is. Her voucher ideas are not fresh and are bad.
MilfusMaximus
I agree 100% on vouchers. My kids attend private school and I don't want kids in there whose parents aren't invested. 1/2
MilfusMaximus
2/2 I know that sounds shitty but uninvested parents are why my husband and I sacrifice to pay for PS.
textilelover
I work a job I hate at a very nice school so we can send our kids here. I still want public school to be a viable alternative for others.
Crims0nTider
You'd be better off providing links, specifying your accusations, and explaining why some of these are bad...
5po0ky
http://hub.jhu.edu/2014/06/02/karl-alexander-long-shadow-research/
5po0ky
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/the-return-of-school-segregation-in-eight-charts/
Crims0nTider
Why does that study not differentiate between public and private schools? Are you suggesting private schools should be illegal?
5po0ky
No what I'm saying is she will take the public school system and make it worse, and society worse as a result
Crims0nTider
But the current system created what you posted. And the DOE's own report said the $7B increase in the last 8 years didn't help at all.
5po0ky
Right, but her policies only accelerate these trends, that's the fundamental problem here
Woahilikeit
Sending children with disabilities to private schools, most often requires them to sign away federal rights under the law IDEA. 1/
Woahilikeit
In other instances where there was a voucher program in place to send children to faith based schools, it was middle class children who 2/
Woahilikeit
had never even attended a public school. She will not be expanding opportunities to those who need it, but giving more to those who 3/
Woahilikeit
don't. The public school system is already financially strained as is, but to pay for these additional schools for mostly middle class 4/
Woahilikeit
children, will take money away from the disadvantaged children's education.
Woahilikeit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRBNkMM0-pM
Crims0nTider
A 3 1/2 hour hearing isn't how you support your argument. Logically explain your opinions.
Darwinsidiotcousin
Literally do a 2 minute Google search and you'll figure it out. We're not going to spoon feed it to you
Crims0nTider
It's not about spoon feeding. It's about supporting one's argument with logic and sources. Something they used to teach in school.
Woahilikeit
I provided sources, but can't help it that you're lazy and unwilling.
5po0ky
Schools today are more segregated than they were before desegregation. Her policies will only accelerate that. Education is one of the only
5po0ky
ways poor people have to better their lot in life, and her policies will completely undermine the "bootstraps" idea Americans believe in.
TellingYouOffWithLuv
Racially segregated? That could really be on the rise from BLM preaching it for the last 2 years... but I see what you're saying.
5po0ky
Lolwuttttt????
bntli
If you listen to that and don't think she's a scumbag, no amount of explanation will do anything for you
Crims0nTider
When did it become a bad thing to ask people to cite and logically explain their position?
bntli
Because it comes off like you are trying to support Betsy Devos