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Visual representation of the 4th dimension
Howdy, Imgur!
So, yesterday I came across this post http://imgur.com/gallery/lwTEC which claimed to explain how the fourth, fifth, sixth etc dimensions work. (There are eleven, by the way). It was a very interesting post- however, it was incorrect. I made a comment saying so, and I got an overwhelming amount of people in the comments and even in private messages asking me to explain how it DOES work**, if that wasn't it. I agreed, saying I'd post it today. I love physics, so with so many people asking me to, I couldn't refuse!
Okay, so the first thing you need to understand before understanding the fourth dimension is the first three, the ones we're familiar with. The good old X, Y and Z axis. Well, those and the Zero-th dimension. So let's get started.
So we'll start with the zero-th dimension. Yes, it exists. Think of it as a dot that's infinitely small. It has no size, no up or down, no anything, but it exists. (If you're familiar with the Big Bang theory, the universe was zero dimensions before the big bang happened). With me so far? Okay,
Now, the first dimension. The first dimension is a line, just a line that extends on forever. The line has no width or thickness, only length. And this first-dimensional line is made up of an infinite number of zero-dimensional points lined up side by side.
Now, the second dimension. You're probably familiar with how this one works- Think "Tetris" or "Super Mario Bros". The pieces and characters on the screen can move left and right, up and down, but that's it. They cannot move towards or away from us. If the third dimension is made up of an X, Y and Z axis, then the second dimension only has an X and a Y. This is the second dimension, and it is a "Plane" made up of an infinite number of one-dimensional lines stacked up on top of each other.
Before I go on to the third dimension, I'd like to throw in a little bit of extra info on the second dimension, a sort of disclaimer if you will. If you've ever read or seen "Flatland", you may think that a theoretical two-dimensional being can only see the "Edge" of objects in front of it, like a line segment. This is NOT true! A two-dimensional being cannot see anything, because there exists no "Edge" for it to see. Remember, this objects aren't just extremely thin, they are INFINITELY thin. There IS no thickness!
Alright, moving on. Three dimensions. I should hope you're familiar with this one, it's the one you live in! As stated earlier, the third dimension has three axis, an X, Y and a Z. If you can move left and right, and then forward and back, and then up and down- Congratulations! You're a three-dimensional being (or higher)! This third dimension is made up of an infinite number of two-dimensional planes stacked up on top of each other- Anyone noticing a pattern yet? I hope so, because understanding the relationship between the dimensions I've described so far will help you wrap your mind around the ones coming up... kind of.
So before I begin explaining the fourth dimension, I've got to say... the fourth dimension is NOT time. Say it with me. The fourth dimension is not time. The fourth dimension is not time. THE FOURTH DIMENSION IS NOT TIME. Got it? Good. So then, where did that idea come from? Why do people think the fourth dimension is time? Well, in 1908, a man named Hermann Minkowski presented a paper suggesting the idea that time could act as the fourth dimension of spacetime (Which I might do a post about later on). However, the geometry of spacetime is profoundly different from this idea. Like I said, I might get into it in a later post, but all you need to remember for now is that this guy was wrong.
Now, a square is two dimensions. A cube is the three-dimensional version of a square. But what is the fourth dimensional equivalent? It's called a hypercube, or a tesseract, and it's that thing in the gif at the top of this post- well, kind of. It's more the "Shadow" that a fourth-dimensional cube (or Hypercube) would leave, similar to how http://i.imgur.com/JsOAyod.jpg is like the shadow that a three-dimensional cube would leave.
If two dimensions is a plane, then three dimensions is a "Space". Now, space is made up of infinite planes- so think of fourth-dimensional space being made up of infinite "Space", stacked on top of each other just like all of the previous ones. Kind of hard to picture, but stay with me. Fourth-dimensional space would be made up of a W, X, Y and Z axis. That's all it is. You can name ANY point in three dimensions by quoting a X, Y and a Z. In order to pinpoint a spot in four-dimensional space, you'd need to quote a W, X, Y and a Z.
There's a fifth dimension, as well. Think V, W, X, Y and Z. If we lived in a fifth-dimensional space and you asked me for coordinates that told you where I was, I'd need to give you five numbers, just like how if we were in one-dimensional space I'd need to give you one number (Think: Number line), or if we were in two-dimensional space I'd need to give you two numbers (Think: Graph).
Imgur user @Preincarnage left this gif in the comments, I thought it was worth sharing:
http://i.imgur.com/1AVySho.gif
So how many dimensions are there, then? There are eleven, according to string theorists (String theory is another topic I might do a post on, if you guys end up liking this one). Each one is created the same way, by taking an infinite amount of whatever the previous dimension was made up of and stacking them on top of each other, and adding an axis (So an 11-dimensional space would have a P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y and Z axis). Hopefully this post has helped out a bit if you were struggling to picture the fourth dimension. Anyhow, that's about all I've got to say on the matter. Cheers, Imgur!
**Disclaimer: While I DO have a pretty decent understanding of the fourth+ dimensions, the reader should bear in mind I am only 18 years old and far from a genius. If somebody qualified (Say, a physics professor or somebody with a degree in physics) notices that I have made an error, and I'll edit my post to fix it. Cheers!
Oh, and for those of you who are interested, here's a fourth-dimensional Rubik's cube you can download! http://superliminal.com/cube/cube.htm
DoublevBomb
BrazilianThunderPanda
But Doc Brown taught me that time was the 4th dimension!
BVELLI
Live from Dimension X
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licklicklickmywenis
I'm busy trying to terraform dimension x
assssumptions
The empty set spans the zero vector and every vector space has the zero vector
Yetiphobia
1/x "They are INFINITELY thin. There IS no thickness". -- The first statement here is false. Thickness being nonexistent as a property...
Yetiphobia
2/x ...in two dimensions, objects are not infinitely thin; they simply are not thin or thick to any degree, infinite or not.
UncertainTea
Great post, but you might want to clarify: time is not a *spatial* dimension, but it is one of four dimensions making up spacetime
UncertainTea
As a physicist, I'll say that in general relativity we do treat time as a dimension, but on a different footing from the usual spatial ones
UncertainTea
It's a bit misleading to say Minkowski was wrong. He never said spacetime was a 4D Euclidean space. Heck, we still use his work today.
biggwhytey
When you get to college for physics, you will learn the value of citing sources. You will also learn how little you understand the subject.
biggwhytey
Source: in final semester of an astronomy degree.
Carefuler
So the 0th dimension is time because you can measure the "dot's" existence.
cunninlinguist
interesting..
NothingAndAHalf
Saying the square from flatland can't see because he is infinitely thin in the third dimension is like saying that you can't see because 1/2
NothingAndAHalf
you are infinitely thin in the fourth dimension. Just because a line segment has no thickness does not mean it has no content.
GeraldMeyers
My thoughts too. I hate that people don't get that.
Vipertooth
So, why is there a limit to the number of dimensions and why is it 11? Why can't you have a 12th dimension. Surely this goes on infinitely.
FamousGayRubik
The short answer is string theory
AtomicPotato7
String theory has not been proven and many scientist have left it in search of something better
whyteraven74
The 11 dimensions is just the number of dimensions in M-theory, as far as pure math is concerned you can have all the dimensions you want.
TheAncientSea
You lost me at Howdy
The22ndDoctor
Sorry, but you are wrong. And your first 7 paragraphs are exactly what the previous post said, just without visual aids.
FamousGayRubik
The previous post was correct up until that point
The22ndDoctor
And beyond, or is the you-now a completely different entity than the you-then? There is a you shaped 4d tube extending backwards.
HammyOfficial
Tldr: you should try psychedelics sometime
VultureVeins
This is important.
usernamepolice
This is wrong. For one, this is assuming string theory is correct however one of the indicative theories known as SUSY has been shown... 1/
usernamepolice
... to fail every test we've thrown at it in high energy physics. Moreover if this was based on string theory this is not AT ALL how... 2/
usernamepolice
... the dimensions work. Most of them, besides the directly measurable (the three you are familiar with), are either too small, too... 3/
usernamepolice
... large, or behave strangely so that we cant observe them at our scale. For example, there are dimensions folded or rotated into... 4/
usernamepolice
... other dimensions. Either way, this guy is very wrong; he is discussing (correctly) mathematical dimensions rather than physical ones.
Easystin
Me trying to understand these comments
freeshivahkadoo
Phew, I'm glad i'm not the only one
Easystin
Get it, because its with dimensions and stuff
stresstwig
and here i thought it meant that you understand the theory, if not the practice. ^.^-b
ImInLoveWithAtLeastThreeGirls
I love how he then stares at the red circle as if it were the ball and goes like "Oh, the ball got stuck there now. Kay, fine."
theyar
Eh... while time may not function mathematically as the Euc. spatial fourth dimension, it is nevertheless undeniably *a* fourth dimension.
pfiidude2
It is a dimension of measurement for sure. But not THE dimensions we are discussing
theyar
That's what I said.
ChronoKing
eh, not really. time is just the statistical evolution of a thing. it's doesn't go forward AND back like a dimension should.
theyar
Space doesn't go anywhere either.
ChronoKing
I meant things in space but space itself is also ever expanding.
ParadoxicalNuance
Not to us anyway... That doesn't mean that it doesn't.
ChronoKing
Thermodynamics, entropy always increases regardless of the direction time flows.
kubit
To be precise, it is just convenient to model time as a dimension.
Kimozabi
"Understanding the fourth dimension." Here is a long-ass post, where 95% of it doesn't talk about the fourth dimension at all.
FamousGayRubik
When you were learning to talk, did your parents just read the dictionary to you?
alsoAzrael
I feel like @op got most of this from popular science articles, and not from any actual learning or understanding. A lot of this is wrong.
uowaep
And doesn't understand that a measurement dimension is not a plane of existence.
alsoAzrael
That's the myth I hate the most. "Well if there's a 4th dimension then how do we get there?" It's not a different fucking universe!
FamousGayRubik
Incorrect, but I appreciate your thoughts
Pikachu8091
Yeah time is definitely a 4th dimension friend
alsoAzrael
Saying "here's a 4d object" and then saying "string theory says there are only 11 dimensions" sounds like you got this out of a magazine.
FamousGayRubik
Well, again, you're wrong
alsoAzrael
Okay, wherever you got your info, it's wrong. Please understand that it takes a lot more research to speak correctly about this.
alsoAzrael
Then re-read your books. Minkowski's idea is in use today in relativity, where space is seen as a 4d manifold with one imaginary dimension.
MagmaFalcon55
Oh! A 4d object visualized in 3D on a 2d screen!
theyar
Your screen isn't really 2d.
xavias
I don't believe you're right here as when things are displayed on the screen they are done so via an x and y axis...
playstation360
The information on the screen is 2d
Preincarnage
SamuelArk
Bro, dude.
llarkspurrs
Yeah, that gif fucked me up
Popcorn179
This actually makes sense now. Thanks!
StrangelyCalm
Carl Sagan to the rescue! https://youtu.be/UnURElCzGc0
dewdar
It's an amazing video, for anyone who wants to understand the 4th demension concept and LSD experience.
AmazinglyCoolNameHere
I hope people realize that we can't actually see 4 dimensions, only its expected projections on 3d.
AuntSharron
Next you'll have me believe that the fifth dimension is barely even conceivable beyond giving it a name!
Ashielf
You know what the fifth element is. Just imagine what the fifth dimension is...
AuntSharron
The fifth dimension is sex? No wonder they have no interest in us lame 3Ds
RandomUpvotes
DoublevBomb
RandomUpvotes
DoublevBomb
LimeSkittlesSuck
DoublevBomb
I've found it kind of necessary to put some things in my own gallery for quick reference, not a lot of posts are well tagged.
Placentaur
That's really pretty
121person121
Just so you guys know, this is just a representation of what we kinda know of the fourth dimension. Our minds cannot comprehend what the1/2
121person121
Fourth dimension would look like. 2/2
JadeMcLeod
FUCKING WHAT
n8crafter
All the lines are the same length too.
GreenLanternCharizard
same...lol
scorpiomoonshine
These gif shows up to 5 dimensions, correct?
Shrike99
No, only 4
ilikespoonerisms
This makes way more sense than the first gif
wtfukochucko
50% of this post is garbage, and the other 50% doesn't explain the interesting things. Very scary it's front page. - (i have physics degree)
JhericFury
I also have a physics degree, but i left the quantum physics and fancy maths behind in 3rd year and have no clue on the validity.
Victoron
If Im correct he doesn't understand that the concept of a dimension isn't purely restricted to physical objects.
Caabale
Plus, I have no clue how the gif is supposed to represent the fourth dimension...
kubit
Thank you for restoring a small bit of faith in humanity for me. As a mathematician, this bullshit is really scary.
giraffinator
Can you explain? Please and thank you.
Ubookquity
What exactly is garbage? My minor is physics, and I agree it isn't explained well but nothing seems necessarily wrong
memberwar
explain a right angle that remains orthogonal to x, y, and z dimensions, without folding space or "tightly coiling."
Ubookquity
Well yeah exactly that's the way I like to think of it, as another axis perpendicular to x y and z. But we can't really explain it, as
memberwar
because you're fucking making it up. "Imagine the smell of a unicorn fart"
Ubookquity
We are 3 beings. But he's not exactly wrong with what he says either. And he's definitely right about the 4d cube being a tessaract
Ubookquity
Idk I guess I took a credit where credits due route
lespritdelescargot
I would be delighted to have it explained. Think you're up to it?
FamousGayRubik
If you think he's telling the truth you're really gullible
lespritdelescargot
Who, @wtfukochucko? I don't understand this as well as I would like, so I can't distinguish between what's right and what isn't.
Itchy73
Read Brian Greene's An Elegant Universe. It'll do a great job at a Layman's level.
lespritdelescargot
I just ordered three of his books, and one other. Mmm, books. Thanks for the recommendation!
Itchy73
Because I recommended them?
lespritdelescargot
Yep. I had a look at the reviews, it looks good.
skadouche
Can confirm. Very good read. Got confused in the last few chapters though.
Itchy73
He convinced me that me and my dead grandfather both exist in the spacetime. If I could teleport, I could see him again.
norill
not in 140 characters
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lespritdelescargot
Alright!
TheCrimsonRaven
Now, *that* is an explanation. Props!
queiNeej
This.
tpgreyknight
Visualising an eleven-dimensional space is easy. First you visualise an n-dimensional space, then you set n equal to 11.
bamblebimble
To bad string theory has a more flaws than a couple others, so it's less likely to be true.
theenchantedwood
but these go up to eleven
ellorax
That's what my math prof used to say xD
ENCHANTMEN
n=√(-1) your move, physics
RetConMan
Just need to use your imagination for that one.
MsMath23
"i" see what you did there!
ENCHANTMEN
n=Ï€+i^e
merelyadequategooglymoogly
This discussion is getting a bit irrational.
TheRealSpaghettiMonster
NI!
playstation360
n has to be in N
ENCHANTMEN
stop trying to make sense damn it
playstation360
I AM the sense!
ENCHANTMEN
*screeches and does a 1080*
zamirovski
Mottafookin this
WildRosso
But it wouldn't exist.
ENCHANTMEN
so what you're saying is
ENCHANTMEN
it would be
ENCHANTMEN
imaginary
Katateochi
and after doing that you'll find you've accidentally installed Matlab again.
tpgreyknight
maxima 4 lyfe
rickeyspanish
no one can visualize any other dimension...its impossible. What is possible is to understand what it is you cant visualize and why
AlvarandHurriks
I'm up to six. I have a 5D mind palace I use to help me remember things.
norill
just because you can't doesn't mean no one can
tpgreyknight
The amount of theory of mind in here is too damn low!
rickeyspanish
naw...im pretty sure no one can
norill
im pretty sure you're wrong
rickeyspanish
I'm pretty sure you're wrong
playstation360
Lies, it's possible to visualize 4 dimensions at least.
ProxyPlayerHD
No yo ucan't, it would be the same as trying to Explain a Cube to a 2 Dimensional Being. It would stare at a Slice of you can Call you Crazy
willtroll4nudes
Similar to how we can only live in the present and can't visualize the future?
willtroll4nudes
Tomorrow, unicorns, and a flying spaghetti deity don't exist yet we can visualize them all. End the stereotype. Humans aren't cubes.
ProxyPlayerHD
We can visualize them because they are based on things in our Existance. unlike a Higher Dimensional Object. we never saw one, how (1/2)
foxbounceingendlesslyonabed
But can't you process the zeroth first second and third dimentions? Meaning you can visualize 4 dimentions
Strostkovy
I can look at a 3d object shown on a 2d screen and understand it fine.
ProxyPlayerHD
Because you are a 3 Dimensional Being. A 2 Dimensional being wouldn't understand the Concept of a Y Axis.
browsib
It isn't though
playstation360
Why not? The brain is a modelling machine, it doesn'
browsib
Because our brains can literally only comprehend visualising the 3 dimensions we can move around in
chunkblaster
Why do they beleive there are only 11 dimensions max? (Genuinely curious)
Vloddamick
This video does a good job of explaining it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4Gotl9vRGs (note that it does not count the point as the 0th)
Vloddamick
That's why the video says only 10 dimensions. The 0th is not specifically included in the list, which would make it 11 total.
schrodingersgoldfish
String theory is a term for many theories. Some require 23 dimensionsand upwards
FamousGayRubik
Simple explanation is that there have to be exactly 11 for the math behind string theory to make sense :)
DongSayaDae
Would it theoretically be possible for a 12th though? If not in string theory then is it possible for something to be "beyond string"?
kbellx9
But if string theory is bullshit, then.....?
chunkblaster
interesting, ok
whyteraven74
Well 11 dimensions is M-theory, turns out that by adding a dimension to 10 dimensional string theory the different versions end up being...
whyteraven74
different ways of stating the same thing as opposed to independent frameworks.
alsoAzrael
It is one of many different string theories. Saying "there are only 11" is absurd, because you aren't talking about physics, but math.
alsoAzrael
In math there are as many dimensions as you want there to be.
Aligatorlog
Hey just question you said 11 dimensions and reading Dr. Michio Kaku's book on quantum theory he says that 1/2
Aligatorlog
That there are either 8 or 10 or 24 dimensions he says that because the strings need to exist in those types of dimensions to existat all 2/
Aligatorlog
So I'm wondering where you are getting 11 dimensions.
TheBurritoConfederacy
Which one of his books? He's written a few over several years and the science updates with each one.
Disclaimered
Will wait for your post about why time is not the 4th Dimension. Not withstanding that a three dimensional object has to exist...
Disclaimered
... for moments in space-time. IE it's here now... now it's there otherwise it isn't there if it doesn't exist in space time. Although ...
Disclaimered
I don't see how that is the 4th dimension.
TheSecondPiewackit
Yeah, he just kind of flat asserts that the 4th dimension isn't time, then goes on to explain how time is represented dimensionally...
echonite
Time is present regardless of dimension. So it can't be a dimension itself.
ChronoKing
Time isn't a thing. It's just a statistical evolution of a thing. it's a descriptor but it has no bearing on what a thing is.
TheSecondPiewackit
Lets say time is a W axis. If something is measured at zero W, it doesn't exist.
ChronoKing
Regardless of whether you consider time a dimension this doesn't work.
TheSecondPiewackit
If something has zero height it doesn't exist. Same goes for width, depth, and duration.
JhericFury
I understood him to mean "in the context of the 11 dimensions mentioned in string theory, time isn't the 4th dimension."
tenebie
In pure theory there's infinite dimensions. The definition of a dimension is basically a basis of normed vectors that are orthogonal
Hullaballoonatic
Our space time can be considered as three geometric dimensions and one time dimension. Lumping together as four of the same makes no sense.
HennyPennyPooPoo
but as we learn in general relativity, generalized unit vectors are not necessarily orthogonal
AmazinglyCoolNameHere
In math yes, but in physical world theory there is a limit that some scientists currently believe in, as mentioned in the post
tiikuri
Didn't we come up with the concept of dimensions to describe the real world? What does the fourth dimension describe?
tenebie
Inertia into another. This is what you call a "boost". Fun fact: you don't actually accelerate anything so calling it boost is wrong tbh
whyteraven74
Depends on what you're working with. Also equations for 3 dimensions can get all sorts of crazy when rewritten for more dimensions which...
whyteraven74
itself can show connections to other things and also show gaps in understanding.
TheBurritoConfederacy
I read that if you 'translate' equations for things like the strong force and electromagnetism into a higher dimension it becomes elegant.
tenebie
As OP mentioned: Timespace. The minkowski space is used in special relativity to calculate the Lorentz transformations of one system of 1/
NekoMiko06
Quantum superpositions?
queiNeej
They only have to be linearly independent. There doesn't have to be a notion of orthogonality to define dimensionality.
queiNeej
There don't even have to be vectors. "Dimensions" is a concept of topology not geometry.
tenebie
I.e. (1,0,0),(0,1,0),(0,0,1) which are both independent and orthogonal, making R3 an orthogonal basis, which is also normed to length of 1
tenebie
In order to have a basis though you need your vectors to be orthogonal to one another. Just like in R3 space you have your e vectors 1/
RussianMathNinja
A basis absolutely does NOT need to be orthogonal. (1,0,0), (0,1,1), (0,0,1) is a perfectly fine basis for the space you mentioned.
queiNeej
A vector space does not need to have in inner product. So you generally don't have the notion of orthogonality.
Hullaballoonatic
"There are 11 dimensions" oh... He bought into string theory...
Checkingusername
Impossible there are only 26
Sadjah
Hehe
tenebie
There's a method to construct such vectors called "Gram-Schmidt". It basically constructs orthonormal bases using previous vectors
AtomicTampon
#shotfired
DankS0uls
Itchy73
No one is impressed by first year linear algebra. Buddy above is obviously talking about physics.
BXHOVAYPCK
TL,DR: the forth dimension is real, also its size, not time
iMadeItJustForThisPost
?
Triatticus
However in our world we don't have a fourth dimension of space but a fourth dimension of time making our space hyperbolic
BXHOVAYPCK
Yes but time is metaphysical meaning it only exists when you do
Triatticus
That's really a question for the border between physics and philosophy, in reality time functions like a real dimension and has consequences
pzummo
Didn't read. Watched the gif. Totally makes sense. Cleared everything up. I got this. But how do I get there?
AndrewPilimaiTulua
Its because the 4th dimension is time. Didnt read either but everyone knows that
pfiidude2
If you can percieve time, it is either not the 4th dimensiom, or you are 4th dimensional
AndrewPilimaiTulua
Lol i was being sarcastoc
Jevus
2,17,5,12
LunarApocalypse
The place you're looking for is Kamantash
bingtittletittlebong
Matthew McConaughey can drive you there in a Lincoln
bruhmometn2a
IN THE MAGIC SCHOOL BUS
GeneCode
How else people get anywhere? Uber of course!
Heffe3737
John Rhys-Davies can build you a machine.
Wildeyed
RetConMan
Watch Buckaroo Banzai for pointers.
MaxPowah
Don't ask, just go!
zeusdemigod131
You know that old paradox 'if you eat yourself would you disappear or double in size'? Try that.
DoublevBomb
Saw Gif, posted:
whereismydamnlighter
What he said.
Ashrinkingdadbod
Call John Titor. Might be difficult unless you can bend light and stuff.
Yogidestro
The right combination of drugs and willpower
TheDivineUsersub
You are there. If 4th dimension is a consolidation of stacked 3rd dimensions, then you are part of a 4th dimensional stack.
Malinaras
So then could the other 3 dimensional layers be alternate realities?
TheDivineUsersub
From a strictly scientific perspective, I would assume it's the same reality. It's the old "if a tree falls and no one is around to -
TheDivineUsersub
- hear it, does it make a sound?" argument. Of course it does. So if a 3rd dimensional layer exists outside of our own, it exists -
TheDivineUsersub
- simultaneously and within the same 4D space. There's nothing alternate about it really. Now, if you're asking if it could be a different -
Jaymezians
More importantly, how do I fuck it?
BreastInspector
His gift is a curse, forget the Earth, he's got the urge To pull his dick from the dirt, and fuck the whole universe...
FsImgur
With a zero dimension dick? Unlikely.
pyrodice
little bit of vaseline...
LoneDirewolf
Take a right at Jupiter then look for the wormhole behind Saturn. If you fall into an infinite library, you've gone too far.
ipoopdogpoop
muuuuurph!
LoneDirewolf
*ugly crying* don't let me leave murph!!!
beardedbeerdeer
SunDriedWillie
I got that reference reference
Starlatan
I remember that movie, but not the name! ;_;
jag00
Interstellar
Starlatan
Goddamn it, YES! THANK YOU!
sciencebasedlifeform
Isn't the fifth dimension a band from the 60s?
FsImgur
Don't eat the brown acid man.
illthinkofsomethingcleverlater
DMT
icculus760
I agree, just beat you to it :)
illthinkofsomethingcleverlater
You're correct. Deems doesn't see to be referenced often here. Side note You want to come over? I have something you might enjoy.
CidColetti
Ayungster
I think OP said it was time
LoveMakinDinosaur
Stack all the space.
icculus760
DMT
HoboJihad
Agreed
Jackospade
Divine moment of truth
Megarita
Sandalphone
Ahahahahahahahahaha
GoogleFucker
Well, we need to find a wormhole, then get to a black hole, and ask Matthew McConaughey if he's willing to jump into an infinite library.
FuturePerfectTense
Alright alright alright
LoneDirewolf
Someone beat you to it
GoogleFucker
OMG IT WAS YOU! hahaha
GoogleFucker
Aw dammit
Ihavethingstosay
Just like all the previous examples, you ARE ALREADY there. You just can't perceive beyond the 3rd.
usernamepolice
Well done sir. If the fourth dimension does indeed exist, light only propagates in three dimensions so we can only perceive them.
xa22
Lights bent by time. How'd you fail to mention that.
Barkman
I'm dumb but I want an explanation of this. For dumb ppl please
usernamepolice
You want an explanation of the 4D spacetime manifold? Read a conceptual book on relativity. They dont require any math often.
usernamepolice
That depends on what definition of time you use. You are correct with Einstein's definition but this isnt necessarily correct.
TheGuywithTehHat
1/ I have several problems with this post. You claim that there are 11 dimensions, but that is not necessarily true; the most popular
TheGuywithTehHat
@op sorry if you got spammed with notifications, imgur said there was an error when I tried to post comments, even though it did post them.
TheGuywithTehHat
2/ theory at the moments requires 11 dimensions, but we have not confirmed that theory. You claim that the original post is wrong about the
FamousGayRubik
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FamousGayRubik
It's true that 11 dimensions have not been PROVEN- However, most credible physicists believe it, and I'm arguing from a string theory pers
TheGuywithTehHat
3/ fourth dimension being time, but that is a straw man; the post never said that the fourth dimension is time, it just used time as an
ChronoKing
That post went into great detail on multiple timelines and universes. Even without explicit statements, it asserted time as a dimension.
TheGuywithTehHat
4/ analogy for understanding the fourth dimension. You talk about "the zero-th dimension," but that doesn't exist; there is 0-dimensional
TheGuywithTehHat
5/ space, but no "0th dimension." You say that 2-dimensional beings wouldn't be able to see anything, but that is likely not true; if
TheGuywithTehHat
6/ physics allowed for 2-dimensional beings to exist, it is possible that they would be able to "see" using two-dimensional photons, or
Dayrest
String theory is a very in satisfying answer to a lot of questions. Too long for a comment. Message me if you want to know why.
LamentableLamp
Yes please!
dashers
It's an elegant idea, but currently no better than God made it all.
FamousGayRubik
I planned on doing a post on string theory later on, but I'd love to hear what you have to say!
ArgMinX
Please leave that to an expert. You are just spreading confusion.
Squirrel9800
Please do. It was brought up by my alevel teacher but all she said was that the people who came up with it dont even understand it.
whyteraven74
Hell no one actually understands quantum mechanics. I mean sure we have all sorts of math but that doesn't mean we really understand it.
Squirrel9800
Id love to know more
FamousGayRubik
I'd have to read up quite a bit on it first, but I'd love to!
l3Emon
Maybe include some references if you want to look better
AResponsibleAdult
I did my undergraduate thesis on String Theory and it's an amazingly interesting subject, with a lot of different aspects