Sep 2, 2016 7:11 PM
TheJokerHasGreenPubes
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SeriousBusinessman
How the fuck does this bias bullshit get to the fp
ErinFromTheOffice
Kaysmira
SgtEziosRequiem
https://imgur.com/kXA8Api
SeaHutch
What a well informed opinion! Oh wait, nevermind, it's a stupid position on a topic you clearly don't understand.
JAC0BY
It's a troll.
SolidSanekk
Ah, that same old same old "us versus them" mindset. It fixes all of our problems. Just look at history!
scrotiemcdicknass
It actually does in a way.. war is the great difference resolver.
JoshuaArnold561
this post isn't promoting us verses them it's a counter argument to what Chris rock and blm are saying
killer10347
That mindset was the goal of BLM.
BobDoesntCare
Not sure why this is being downvoted. Black BLM leaders sending whites who support the movement to the back of the rally?
surlistyc
"White media" to the back of the rally so they don't do exactly what they did with that .gif
DudePlayinADudeDisguisedAsAnotherDude
Shut the fuck up, OP.
ImRandyMarsh
How about we all stop trying to make complex issues binary
WiqidBritt
My mantra is that things are never as simple as you think they are.
WontSomeonePleaseThinkOfTheChildren
I'll take gross lies and factual errors for $1000, Alex.
buseyisgod
How fucking vile a post this is...
Mrdebaser
The amount of up votes it has is even more vile than the post.
Classof92
I like to send good vides, so if I don't like a post I just move on. That being said, this is the first post I've ever down-voted.
neverknowsbest138
So what you're saying is you're literally a white supremacist.
famicus
Uncle sams misguided children is the source. Someone should fwd it to the onion
graehall
"All the ghettos in America are run by democrats". It's depressing how ideology and partisanship can make us behave like fucking idiots :(
thecounterblast
Also---lots of white democrats
FilthyRedmond
CirclejerqueDuSoleil
How about EVERYONE owns their own actions and we stop fighting discrimination and labels by discriminating and labelling.
Hannya
At the same time, I don't think you can blame black people for segregation... Or for most of America's slavery.
softballguy
When Trump loses, the Internet will be nothing but posts like this.
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ratfaceddog
If he loses, you'll stick to the belief that he will win? Yep, you're a Trump supporter, alright. He is a politician, by definition, btw.
Anfalicious
Imagine if he wins and they feel vindicated...
Hoop66
Twitter will be me tweeting him the word "LOSER!" every few seconds until the end of time. I might switch it up a bit with "LOOOO-SEEEER!".
misterxax
Lol, first day on the internet, buddy?
lesserknowncharacter
I mean it's already just this and that General Tso's recipie, so...
whatspaulplayingtoday
Really? General Tso's you say?
Tasty!
Hey how did that work out?
It didn't, and this year, I've had people telling me to go back to where I came from. White people have decided we have to lose, so we lose.
That's unfortunate that you think that way. You can't blame all of a race for the actions of a few.
What's unfortunate is that those whites who DO think that way now have a political home in America's most powerful political party.
AngryCoconuts
Offended! Get Offended here! "Blacks vs Whites" special! Now you can get double Offended! Everyone gets Offended!
PlatyPunch
v
Ghostwish
I got da popcorn!
iHeardThereWouldBeNudes
bigdirtycroissant
WildBillsUsedCoffinEmporium
I like this one myself
photog
SkuIIpoopI
Hide the toaster!
JohnMyungIsGod
Is that khal drogo
PerfectGifComment
mosier0874
SAUCE SAUCE SAUCE!
lenomdeplume
Google FBI Crime Stats. Interesting reading...particularly the homicide data.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
The problem with stats is that they don't provide a historical context
Aren't designed to; the FBI stats reflect reality rather than a desire for rationalization. Spoiler alert: 15% of the pop, 45% of murders.
I meant the Jason Momoa gif
LuckyDirt
Fuck this.
JMPerez920
My thoughts are that it's not white or black people. It's the stupid subgroups of both blaming each other so neither fixes it when both can.
Rogueular
You're a racist.
"Hah, I'll call him an -ism, that will surely shut down all his arguments"
Define racism.
myr14d
As an Asian, these threads always make me laugh. (Raugh, haha - I totally preempted you, you fucker)
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
It's been about 75 years since anyone was impressed with an Asian preemptive strike, buddy.
Cakesndots
Haha made me chuckle
That was just for the chuckle, I swear.
Magsnificent
GOD DAMN MONGORIANS!
asspickle
Buird a shitty warr
NinjaSpork
Whoah man, you speak the truth. Except for the parts that are bullshit. Which is the whole thing.
Do tell. Which part is bullshit?
burden of proof is on the bullshitter
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
No it's not, it's on the commenter who called @OP out
bernieburn5745
How does a white person own their actions?
cofee
By giving black people money.
Jerenemy
How much more do I need to give before I cleanse the guilt from my white skin.
IAmLrrrRulerOfThePlanetOmicronPerseiEight
3/5 of everything you own
Yeah, considering my Irish ancestors came here long after black slavery was abolished, blacks aren't getting a cent from my family.
I'm gonna go with enough that every black person can gold-plate everything they own and pay child support for the kids they don't raise.
FaptainPicard
by purchasing them at an action auction. Make sure to check their teeth and make them dance first. Gotta weed out the sick actions.
myfirstthrowaway
Ouch
TheExpensiveBikeRide
ivoryashes
People are the worst. Everyone has done something shitty at some point or other, so can we stop playing the blame game already?
MadVillainousDave
10ft poles here. Get your 10ft poles here!
Spidey209
Two for me please!
TheCrankyCow
got a 39.5ft pole? i'm feeling festive.
DoctorBambu
The phrase is "I wouldn't touch that with a 10ft pole." Sorry buddy, but you business venture is doomed to fail.
madwriter29
Do you have any 3.048m poles?
fauxglove
I'll take two!
AnsuSuscitatio
Got a 1ft stick? I like to poke the bear.
LaBotte
I'll take 2 and some duck tape.... unless you have 20ft poles ?
TheGhostOfHarambe
I'll buy ten so I can be atleast a 100ft away.
kungfucatattack
I only got tree fiddy.
JacksonsDaddy
I'd rather have a 5.5 ft Ukrainian. But we're probably talking about different things
TheRealScotchie
Yeah, but I need like, an 11ft pole....
7HIris
11ft poles have many more uses
WillDrug
DnD reference?..
Jameski07
Y'all got any of them 5ft poles? I like to live dangerously.
I can make one for 25% off.
IamTerribleAtCreatingUserNames
Hmm... seems like a good deal. I'll take it!
ImOutsideAllGroups
If I buy one too, can we both get an extra discount?
idonthaveanyideawhatthehelliamtalkingabout
You both get 25% off. 2x25= 50 so that is 50%off
djvkckvkbhkbghkcg
I know I'll get downvote done for this but I feel like people who post these types of things are racists in denial
strothatynhe
No, in that case if you object to such a generalization and present your reasoning why you're simply a closeted racist. 2/2
hardytardigrade
You are wrong! They might not be in denial at all.
FINISHTHETITLE
I'd even say proudly racist
FartyMcDumpstein
I'm not racist, but...
MrsFlemm
Agree!
It's racist to address an entire group of people based entirely on their skin color...except when it's addressed at white people 1/2
Cazio
That little icon is from Uncle Sam's Misguided Children, a far-right group very popular with Oath Keepers and other crazy groups.
In denial? I mean, he's pretty much saying "HEY, I'M A WHITE SUPREMACIST!"
perfectlyrics
It seems like Imgur has become very racist and misogynistic in the last year. I wonder what changed in the US to make that happen?
TheFrypo
I don't see how OP is being racist in this post by pointing out real situations, but one thing for sure I see Chris Rock(1/2)
using a phrasing "Y'all white people are slave owners and you must pay" Well shit we Latvians were enslaved for 600years and we're white(2/2
The last vestiges of old racist sexist people finally took off the tinfoil hats and got internet access
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Probably just a coincidence.
Well I see what you mean but I don't think that's the case
equityforpunks
In any social issue discussion, remember to use all the blaming cards to avoid actual discussion.
Vesarret
You mean like how the original post was making sure to blame black people for their problems?
LadyArwen
I think both sides are extreme. I agree with this only because of racial hypocrisy. I've never seen black repression first hand, and (1/2)
I'm from one of the most multicultural cities in the world. What I have seen is ignorance/racism being excused due to "white privilege"(2/2)
The icon is a big giveaway. It looks like something Hitler would make if you let him have a go on Corel Draw.
found it http://unclesamsmisguidedchildren.com/
StarvingGarbage
It's a military thing.
It's trying very hard to be.
It's meant to cater to Marines. USMC. Same acronym. Most of us think it's stupid but that's what it is.
tapetkabinett
Do you recognize that there are other races than the white race?
Yes I don't know why you are telling me this
And you don't consider yourself racist?
Why would I be racist
I repeat the question: do you consider yourself a racist?
SpecimenSpiff
Gee whiz! You don't say?!
Read the rest before making an attempt at being snappy.
I did. How about you don't lead off with ridiculous questions? Really makes one not give half a fuck about what you're getting at.
Well it's an important question in determining whether someone is racist or not, so I believe it is quite the contrary from ridicolous.
DukePaulAtreides
Just a heads-up, the watermark there "Uncle Sam's Misguided Children", is, surprise, very popular with the fringe right. Also the founder >
>of the Facebook page has been accused of defrauding his followers as well as being abusive towards his wife and others.
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
Which doesn't change the facts in the statement. No one alive today was responsible for the African or Irish slave trade.
"Irish slave trade." FFS, where do you idiots come up with this shit?
History.
"History" doesn't mean "shit you made up to support your racist agenda." Chattel slavery didn't involve the Irish.
Goes to credibility, your honor. Basically, it imparts that 1) he has a political agenda and 2) he's oversimplifying issues
If someone says water is wet and a lawyer disputes it based on credibility he just lost his own.
It says that white people "didn't do" slavery, black people did. That's not really factual. The other statements are extremely misleading.
infinity1
It says the white people around today didn't do slavery. Black on black slavery is what started the whole Atlantic trade.
It basically says "we didn't do shit" then "it was black people". White people did buy slaves. And slave sales were hardly the whole issue.
Problems don't go away when the originators die, and they stick around because "it's not my responsibility."
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Why would I pay for the sins of people who came before me? Especially when my ancestors were a bunch of poor fuckin farmers who weren't a
a whole lot better off than slaves.
That's not the problem today
Don't lump those together. The African slave trade was unparalleled in scale. To mention them in the same sentence creates a false parity.
That, and chattel slavery never involved the Irish. Just a minor detail.
JudgeMentalCat
Yes but people today can be held responsible for their apathy towards a brutal police state and refusal to help
The apathy of decent people is all that it takes for an evil person to get away with their crimes
And considering how much police brutality occurs on a daily basis with little consequence, evil people are getting a
mijk
My family came to Canada in the 1640's to fight the Iroquoi. We never owned slaves. We lived as farmers until the early 1900's. What ...
ANorthman
Found Harper's old stock Canadian.
Awesoman66theCactusLord
Similar to my family, but in America. We never owned slaves either, never lived in Dixieland (the south)
pray tell, do I have to fucking do with slavery, having been born in Northern Ontario, Canada, in 1984?
You don't have anything to do with it, neither does anyone else today.
thedarkcanuck
Northern Ontario is best Ontario
fuckin right eh! Where you from?
North Bay, but now I'm based in Belleville for work and I hate it. What aboot you?
Sudbury. Shit, I go to NB 5-6/year to go thrift shopping. They got good places there.
"No, you're white. You owned slaves. Your family owned slaves. EVERY white person owned slaves and has ancestors that owned slaves." -BLM
It makes sense if you're retarded, I guess.
Stolf
Which is the requirement for being a BLM member
CharlieWeaver
Nothing, but you do have a ton to do with Native American genocide.
How? Did I kill a bunch of Native Americans? No. I'm part Native American.
It was a joke.
Before white people came to these parts, Indians were killing each other on the regular. White people ended all that by killing them.
Killing them was good for them. Perhaps... the blacks... hmm...
CrestFallenWarrior
Basically what the guy above you is saying. It's almost as if whites need to come up with some kind of solution that's final...
dialysisinflictor
This doesn't address the casual use of excessive force by many cops and the use of tickets as revenue generation. Reform is needed.
daelith
Police reform has little to nothing to do with "white people" specifically.
@OP is right tho, it doesn't have much to do with it.
This also doesn't address the douchebag attitude that many display claiming to know their rights and baiting police.
But police should be held to a higher standard and should know their limits, which many are ignorant of or conveniently ignore.
You mean the attitude that citizens should be given the rights that the constitution promises instead of having police be judge, jury and
No I mean the attitude of a dipshit yelling "am I being detained? Am I being detained?" As a cop is trying to speak to them.
Which is technically their right.
It's their right to obstruct a police officer in his duties?
executioner? And the attitude that black people should be tried by the same standards as white people?
They are tried the same as whites. It's a fact.
Lol right. White rapist gets 3 months, black dude who sells pot gets 9 years.
HamsterOnAGoat
my great grandfather worked for a coal mining company, had to use a 'company store' and live in company housing b/c they paid less than (1)
Cheomesh
Look into the Battle of Blair Mountain to see where that can end up.
smashfaceawesome
A good movie that sums this up is Matewan by John Sayles.
DBF68
Grandfather worked in the Wayland, KY mining ops. Got black lung and eventually died around 39. Did his best to die early too.
Check out A People's History of the United States https://www.amazon.com/dp/0062397346/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_mIGYxb67E0Z5F
YellowDrank
That might conflict with what I've seen on Facebook and cnn and just feels right. No can do.
Learn more about that book, and you'll see the irony of your statement.
I was not taking a position on this. I don't have enough information to make an informed opinion. I was joking.
Also, poor whites didn't have it any better. That doesn't mean we need to compare who has it marginally worse.
Abattage
People exploit people for money and labor. It's one of the things we do best as a species.
"I owe my soul to the company store..."
Most of those same mines wouldn't hire black people, to start with, and while the camps that ran on scrip could amount to indentured (1/2)
servitude, it was not "slavery." There was never a "Fugitive Miner Act," for example. You're reaching for a "me too" false equivalence.
Pay attention love, thats not what he's saying.
That's not what he's saying
so you disagree with the numerous reports saying the day to day living conditions were worse than that of slaves?
SithHaveBetterSex
Did they have floors, shoes? Did anyone have to resort to stealing food at risk of a lashing/death?
no shoes, except for the pair they would wear to church. that was only once/week so they didn't wear out.
they had to steal coal from the mine to get by
Reports from people who did both, you mean? It depends on the specifics, of course, but that wasn't generally true. It is ironic that 1/2
most of the people who push this narrative still hate the unions, such as the UMWA, who brought those particular practices to an end.2/2
reports from independent parties that investigated both. what on earth do unions have to do with this? stay on topic
foundlingcarvedoutofonyx
Difference was your great grandfather could leave. Would never get lynched, or beaten
no, he couldn't leave. That's not how company towns worked
How did all those hillbillies wind up in Detroit, then?
Look up the Pullman strike and compare it to the uprising of Nat Turner. Then look up model company towns.
I have stories from people who experienced it
Have you heard any slave stories?
Your missing the point
what they charged for housing/food/etc. they let you live on 'credit' and couldn't quit until you paid it back. conditions were widely (2)
known as being harsher than the conditions of slaves at the time. not only black people were slaves in america (3/3)
playthatrecordbackwards
Irishmen were given the most dangerous jobs when building railroads because a dead Irishman was worth less than a dead slave.
jmeyers1983
Did they rape the women in your family and brand the men?
i dont know why this is getting hate. Working conditions isnt the only negative side of slavery.
For real, the plight of wage workers during the industrial revolution was bad, but it's not the same as American slavery
SeriousBusinessman
How the fuck does this bias bullshit get to the fp
ErinFromTheOffice
Kaysmira
SgtEziosRequiem
https://imgur.com/kXA8Api
SgtEziosRequiem
SeaHutch
What a well informed opinion! Oh wait, nevermind, it's a stupid position on a topic you clearly don't understand.
JAC0BY
It's a troll.
SolidSanekk
Ah, that same old same old "us versus them" mindset. It fixes all of our problems. Just look at history!
scrotiemcdicknass
It actually does in a way.. war is the great difference resolver.
JoshuaArnold561
this post isn't promoting us verses them it's a counter argument to what Chris rock and blm are saying
killer10347
That mindset was the goal of BLM.
BobDoesntCare
Not sure why this is being downvoted. Black BLM leaders sending whites who support the movement to the back of the rally?
surlistyc
"White media" to the back of the rally so they don't do exactly what they did with that .gif
DudePlayinADudeDisguisedAsAnotherDude
Shut the fuck up, OP.
ImRandyMarsh
How about we all stop trying to make complex issues binary
WiqidBritt
My mantra is that things are never as simple as you think they are.
WontSomeonePleaseThinkOfTheChildren
I'll take gross lies and factual errors for $1000, Alex.
buseyisgod
How fucking vile a post this is...
Mrdebaser
The amount of up votes it has is even more vile than the post.
Classof92
I like to send good vides, so if I don't like a post I just move on. That being said, this is the first post I've ever down-voted.
neverknowsbest138
So what you're saying is you're literally a white supremacist.
famicus
Uncle sams misguided children is the source. Someone should fwd it to the onion
graehall
"All the ghettos in America are run by democrats". It's depressing how ideology and partisanship can make us behave like fucking idiots :(
thecounterblast
Also---lots of white democrats
FilthyRedmond
CirclejerqueDuSoleil
How about EVERYONE owns their own actions and we stop fighting discrimination and labels by discriminating and labelling.
Hannya
At the same time, I don't think you can blame black people for segregation... Or for most of America's slavery.
softballguy
When Trump loses, the Internet will be nothing but posts like this.
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ratfaceddog
If he loses, you'll stick to the belief that he will win? Yep, you're a Trump supporter, alright. He is a politician, by definition, btw.
Anfalicious
Imagine if he wins and they feel vindicated...
Hoop66
Twitter will be me tweeting him the word "LOSER!" every few seconds until the end of time. I might switch it up a bit with "LOOOO-SEEEER!".
misterxax
Lol, first day on the internet, buddy?
lesserknowncharacter
I mean it's already just this and that General Tso's recipie, so...
whatspaulplayingtoday
Really? General Tso's you say?
lesserknowncharacter
Tasty!
TheJokerHasGreenPubes
Hey how did that work out?
softballguy
It didn't, and this year, I've had people telling me to go back to where I came from. White people have decided we have to lose, so we lose.
TheJokerHasGreenPubes
That's unfortunate that you think that way. You can't blame all of a race for the actions of a few.
softballguy
What's unfortunate is that those whites who DO think that way now have a political home in America's most powerful political party.
AngryCoconuts
Offended! Get Offended here! "Blacks vs Whites" special! Now you can get double Offended! Everyone gets Offended!
PlatyPunch
Ghostwish
I got da popcorn!
iHeardThereWouldBeNudes
bigdirtycroissant
WildBillsUsedCoffinEmporium
photog
SkuIIpoopI
Hide the toaster!
JohnMyungIsGod
Is that khal drogo
PerfectGifComment
mosier0874
SAUCE SAUCE SAUCE!
lenomdeplume
Google FBI Crime Stats. Interesting reading...particularly the homicide data.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
The problem with stats is that they don't provide a historical context
lenomdeplume
Aren't designed to; the FBI stats reflect reality rather than a desire for rationalization. Spoiler alert: 15% of the pop, 45% of murders.
mosier0874
I meant the Jason Momoa gif
LuckyDirt
Fuck this.
JMPerez920
My thoughts are that it's not white or black people. It's the stupid subgroups of both blaming each other so neither fixes it when both can.
Rogueular
You're a racist.
misterxax
"Hah, I'll call him an -ism, that will surely shut down all his arguments"
TheJokerHasGreenPubes
Define racism.
myr14d
As an Asian, these threads always make me laugh. (Raugh, haha - I totally preempted you, you fucker)
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
It's been about 75 years since anyone was impressed with an Asian preemptive strike, buddy.
Cakesndots
Haha made me chuckle
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
That was just for the chuckle, I swear.
Magsnificent
GOD DAMN MONGORIANS!
asspickle
Buird a shitty warr
NinjaSpork
Whoah man, you speak the truth. Except for the parts that are bullshit. Which is the whole thing.
TheJokerHasGreenPubes
Do tell. Which part is bullshit?
NinjaSpork
burden of proof is on the bullshitter
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
No it's not, it's on the commenter who called @OP out
bernieburn5745
How does a white person own their actions?
cofee
By giving black people money.
Jerenemy
How much more do I need to give before I cleanse the guilt from my white skin.
IAmLrrrRulerOfThePlanetOmicronPerseiEight
3/5 of everything you own
Jerenemy
Yeah, considering my Irish ancestors came here long after black slavery was abolished, blacks aren't getting a cent from my family.
cofee
I'm gonna go with enough that every black person can gold-plate everything they own and pay child support for the kids they don't raise.
FaptainPicard
by purchasing them at an action auction. Make sure to check their teeth and make them dance first. Gotta weed out the sick actions.
myfirstthrowaway
Ouch
TheExpensiveBikeRide
ivoryashes
People are the worst. Everyone has done something shitty at some point or other, so can we stop playing the blame game already?
MadVillainousDave
10ft poles here. Get your 10ft poles here!
Spidey209
Two for me please!
TheCrankyCow
got a 39.5ft pole? i'm feeling festive.
DoctorBambu
The phrase is "I wouldn't touch that with a 10ft pole." Sorry buddy, but you business venture is doomed to fail.
madwriter29
Do you have any 3.048m poles?
fauxglove
I'll take two!
AnsuSuscitatio
Got a 1ft stick? I like to poke the bear.
LaBotte
I'll take 2 and some duck tape.... unless you have 20ft poles ?
TheGhostOfHarambe
I'll buy ten so I can be atleast a 100ft away.
kungfucatattack
I only got tree fiddy.
JacksonsDaddy
I'd rather have a 5.5 ft Ukrainian. But we're probably talking about different things
TheRealScotchie
Yeah, but I need like, an 11ft pole....
7HIris
11ft poles have many more uses
WillDrug
DnD reference?..
Jameski07
Y'all got any of them 5ft poles? I like to live dangerously.
MadVillainousDave
I can make one for 25% off.
IamTerribleAtCreatingUserNames
Hmm... seems like a good deal. I'll take it!
ImOutsideAllGroups
If I buy one too, can we both get an extra discount?
idonthaveanyideawhatthehelliamtalkingabout
You both get 25% off. 2x25= 50 so that is 50%off
djvkckvkbhkbghkcg
I know I'll get downvote done for this but I feel like people who post these types of things are racists in denial
strothatynhe
No, in that case if you object to such a generalization and present your reasoning why you're simply a closeted racist. 2/2
hardytardigrade
You are wrong! They might not be in denial at all.
FINISHTHETITLE
I'd even say proudly racist
FartyMcDumpstein
I'm not racist, but...
MrsFlemm
Agree!
strothatynhe
It's racist to address an entire group of people based entirely on their skin color...except when it's addressed at white people 1/2
Cazio
That little icon is from Uncle Sam's Misguided Children, a far-right group very popular with Oath Keepers and other crazy groups.
neverknowsbest138
In denial? I mean, he's pretty much saying "HEY, I'M A WHITE SUPREMACIST!"
perfectlyrics
It seems like Imgur has become very racist and misogynistic in the last year. I wonder what changed in the US to make that happen?
TheFrypo
I don't see how OP is being racist in this post by pointing out real situations, but one thing for sure I see Chris Rock(1/2)
TheFrypo
using a phrasing "Y'all white people are slave owners and you must pay" Well shit we Latvians were enslaved for 600years and we're white(2/2
FINISHTHETITLE
The last vestiges of old racist sexist people finally took off the tinfoil hats and got internet access
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Probably just a coincidence.
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
Well I see what you mean but I don't think that's the case
equityforpunks
In any social issue discussion, remember to use all the blaming cards to avoid actual discussion.
Vesarret
You mean like how the original post was making sure to blame black people for their problems?
LadyArwen
I think both sides are extreme. I agree with this only because of racial hypocrisy. I've never seen black repression first hand, and (1/2)
LadyArwen
I'm from one of the most multicultural cities in the world. What I have seen is ignorance/racism being excused due to "white privilege"(2/2)
TheGhostofElizabethShue
The icon is a big giveaway. It looks like something Hitler would make if you let him have a go on Corel Draw.
FartyMcDumpstein
found it http://unclesamsmisguidedchildren.com/
StarvingGarbage
It's a military thing.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
It's trying very hard to be.
StarvingGarbage
It's meant to cater to Marines. USMC. Same acronym. Most of us think it's stupid but that's what it is.
tapetkabinett
Do you recognize that there are other races than the white race?
djvkckvkbhkbghkcg
Yes I don't know why you are telling me this
tapetkabinett
And you don't consider yourself racist?
djvkckvkbhkbghkcg
Why would I be racist
tapetkabinett
I repeat the question: do you consider yourself a racist?
SpecimenSpiff
Gee whiz! You don't say?!
tapetkabinett
Read the rest before making an attempt at being snappy.
SpecimenSpiff
I did. How about you don't lead off with ridiculous questions? Really makes one not give half a fuck about what you're getting at.
tapetkabinett
Well it's an important question in determining whether someone is racist or not, so I believe it is quite the contrary from ridicolous.
DukePaulAtreides
Just a heads-up, the watermark there "Uncle Sam's Misguided Children", is, surprise, very popular with the fringe right. Also the founder >
DukePaulAtreides
>of the Facebook page has been accused of defrauding his followers as well as being abusive towards his wife and others.
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
Which doesn't change the facts in the statement. No one alive today was responsible for the African or Irish slave trade.
ratfaceddog
"Irish slave trade." FFS, where do you idiots come up with this shit?
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
History.
ratfaceddog
"History" doesn't mean "shit you made up to support your racist agenda." Chattel slavery didn't involve the Irish.
DukePaulAtreides
Goes to credibility, your honor. Basically, it imparts that 1) he has a political agenda and 2) he's oversimplifying issues
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
If someone says water is wet and a lawyer disputes it based on credibility he just lost his own.
hardytardigrade
It says that white people "didn't do" slavery, black people did. That's not really factual. The other statements are extremely misleading.
infinity1
It says the white people around today didn't do slavery. Black on black slavery is what started the whole Atlantic trade.
hardytardigrade
It basically says "we didn't do shit" then "it was black people". White people did buy slaves. And slave sales were hardly the whole issue.
softballguy
Problems don't go away when the originators die, and they stick around because "it's not my responsibility."
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Why would I pay for the sins of people who came before me? Especially when my ancestors were a bunch of poor fuckin farmers who weren't a
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
a whole lot better off than slaves.
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
That's not the problem today
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Don't lump those together. The African slave trade was unparalleled in scale. To mention them in the same sentence creates a false parity.
ratfaceddog
That, and chattel slavery never involved the Irish. Just a minor detail.
JudgeMentalCat
Yes but people today can be held responsible for their apathy towards a brutal police state and refusal to help
JudgeMentalCat
The apathy of decent people is all that it takes for an evil person to get away with their crimes
JudgeMentalCat
And considering how much police brutality occurs on a daily basis with little consequence, evil people are getting a
mijk
My family came to Canada in the 1640's to fight the Iroquoi. We never owned slaves. We lived as farmers until the early 1900's. What ...
ANorthman
Found Harper's old stock Canadian.
Awesoman66theCactusLord
Similar to my family, but in America. We never owned slaves either, never lived in Dixieland (the south)
mijk
pray tell, do I have to fucking do with slavery, having been born in Northern Ontario, Canada, in 1984?
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
You don't have anything to do with it, neither does anyone else today.
thedarkcanuck
Northern Ontario is best Ontario
mijk
fuckin right eh! Where you from?
thedarkcanuck
North Bay, but now I'm based in Belleville for work and I hate it. What aboot you?
mijk
Sudbury. Shit, I go to NB 5-6/year to go thrift shopping. They got good places there.
cofee
"No, you're white. You owned slaves. Your family owned slaves. EVERY white person owned slaves and has ancestors that owned slaves." -BLM
cofee
It makes sense if you're retarded, I guess.
Stolf
Which is the requirement for being a BLM member
CharlieWeaver
Nothing, but you do have a ton to do with Native American genocide.
mijk
mijk
How? Did I kill a bunch of Native Americans? No. I'm part Native American.
CharlieWeaver
It was a joke.
mijk
Jameski07
Before white people came to these parts, Indians were killing each other on the regular. White people ended all that by killing them.
CharlieWeaver
Killing them was good for them. Perhaps... the blacks... hmm...
CrestFallenWarrior
Basically what the guy above you is saying. It's almost as if whites need to come up with some kind of solution that's final...
dialysisinflictor
This doesn't address the casual use of excessive force by many cops and the use of tickets as revenue generation. Reform is needed.
TheJokerHasGreenPubes
daelith
Police reform has little to nothing to do with "white people" specifically.
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
@OP is right tho, it doesn't have much to do with it.
TheJokerHasGreenPubes
This also doesn't address the douchebag attitude that many display claiming to know their rights and baiting police.
daelith
But police should be held to a higher standard and should know their limits, which many are ignorant of or conveniently ignore.
JudgeMentalCat
You mean the attitude that citizens should be given the rights that the constitution promises instead of having police be judge, jury and
TheJokerHasGreenPubes
No I mean the attitude of a dipshit yelling "am I being detained? Am I being detained?" As a cop is trying to speak to them.
JudgeMentalCat
Which is technically their right.
TheJokerHasGreenPubes
It's their right to obstruct a police officer in his duties?
JudgeMentalCat
executioner? And the attitude that black people should be tried by the same standards as white people?
TheJokerHasGreenPubes
They are tried the same as whites. It's a fact.
JudgeMentalCat
Lol right. White rapist gets 3 months, black dude who sells pot gets 9 years.
HamsterOnAGoat
my great grandfather worked for a coal mining company, had to use a 'company store' and live in company housing b/c they paid less than (1)
Cheomesh
Look into the Battle of Blair Mountain to see where that can end up.
smashfaceawesome
A good movie that sums this up is Matewan by John Sayles.
DBF68
Grandfather worked in the Wayland, KY mining ops. Got black lung and eventually died around 39. Did his best to die early too.
smashfaceawesome
Check out A People's History of the United States https://www.amazon.com/dp/0062397346/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_mIGYxb67E0Z5F
YellowDrank
That might conflict with what I've seen on Facebook and cnn and just feels right. No can do.
ratfaceddog
Learn more about that book, and you'll see the irony of your statement.
YellowDrank
I was not taking a position on this. I don't have enough information to make an informed opinion. I was joking.
smashfaceawesome
Also, poor whites didn't have it any better. That doesn't mean we need to compare who has it marginally worse.
Abattage
People exploit people for money and labor. It's one of the things we do best as a species.
Cheomesh
"I owe my soul to the company store..."
ratfaceddog
Most of those same mines wouldn't hire black people, to start with, and while the camps that ran on scrip could amount to indentured (1/2)
ratfaceddog
servitude, it was not "slavery." There was never a "Fugitive Miner Act," for example. You're reaching for a "me too" false equivalence.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Pay attention love, thats not what he's saying.
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
That's not what he's saying
HamsterOnAGoat
so you disagree with the numerous reports saying the day to day living conditions were worse than that of slaves?
SithHaveBetterSex
Did they have floors, shoes? Did anyone have to resort to stealing food at risk of a lashing/death?
HamsterOnAGoat
no shoes, except for the pair they would wear to church. that was only once/week so they didn't wear out.
HamsterOnAGoat
they had to steal coal from the mine to get by
ratfaceddog
Reports from people who did both, you mean? It depends on the specifics, of course, but that wasn't generally true. It is ironic that 1/2
ratfaceddog
most of the people who push this narrative still hate the unions, such as the UMWA, who brought those particular practices to an end.2/2
HamsterOnAGoat
reports from independent parties that investigated both. what on earth do unions have to do with this? stay on topic
foundlingcarvedoutofonyx
Difference was your great grandfather could leave. Would never get lynched, or beaten
HamsterOnAGoat
no, he couldn't leave. That's not how company towns worked
ratfaceddog
How did all those hillbillies wind up in Detroit, then?
foundlingcarvedoutofonyx
Look up the Pullman strike and compare it to the uprising of Nat Turner. Then look up model company towns.
HamsterOnAGoat
I have stories from people who experienced it
foundlingcarvedoutofonyx
Have you heard any slave stories?
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
Your missing the point
HamsterOnAGoat
what they charged for housing/food/etc. they let you live on 'credit' and couldn't quit until you paid it back. conditions were widely (2)
HamsterOnAGoat
known as being harsher than the conditions of slaves at the time. not only black people were slaves in america (3/3)
playthatrecordbackwards
Irishmen were given the most dangerous jobs when building railroads because a dead Irishman was worth less than a dead slave.
jmeyers1983
Did they rape the women in your family and brand the men?
IAmLrrrRulerOfThePlanetOmicronPerseiEight
i dont know why this is getting hate. Working conditions isnt the only negative side of slavery.
jmeyers1983
For real, the plight of wage workers during the industrial revolution was bad, but it's not the same as American slavery