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PiGiSpi
So people are racist everywhere, this is quite the development
Skittleballs
I've been to India. It beats the USA in the 50s. So. Fucking. Racist.
NeverCleverEnough
As a 2nd generation immigrant I can attest to this.
BlownByTheMonsignor
Indian guy at work used to throw down with the rednecks w/ pure verbal roastings that left only scorched earth behind (1/2)
BlownByTheMonsignor
I used to think he was an anomaly until I saw "40 Year Old Virgin" and thought, "Shit...maybe MOST of them are like that." (2/2)
DeadOnionSaysWhat
I'm in the Midwest, if we're racist we're going to be racist, doesn't matter how light/dark. It's weird to me India cares what shade you are
flarflarf
For all the shit America gets for racism, we're actually better than most.
flarflarf
not to say we don't have our issues but overall we're on the right path.
AWardensWranglers
I mean, they were all racist comments... Did anyone think racism didn't exist in India?
Tachyon000
As an Indian, very few non-Indians know the true extent of the bigotry that exists in India
Starvegal
People lump Indians together as a group of generic brown people. Don't realize how many ways Indians have to discriminate against each other
boobcat
Is there anything more Racist that generalising 1.5 Billion people down to a single character.
Patilistan
What if I tell you I'm indian and it's true?
alabamaredhead
Sometimes I forget that America isn't the only place with racism... anybody out of the country want me to send them a Pepsi?
Spongybunny
My Indian friend says she makes sure to speak English in India so that she's treated a LOT better than locals.
Patilistan
Hell yeah. This works, can verify. Got offered jobs over other job seekers. People seem to yield more in conversations.
ZombieZooZombieZoo
I'll have to find it, but there was a map based on a poll along the lines of "would you be ok with neighbors of a different race" India 1/
ZombieZooZombieZoo
by far to most resistant to neighbors of a different ethnicity
Kyphe
They came second after Jordan. I posted a link to the map in this thread.
foxxplay
White people are actually the least racist as well as the least sexist. By FAR.
sheshazelnuts
As a VERY white girl, I've been stared at hard in India, but I've only encountered curiosity. Had a kid ask why Americans are red. :)
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
Red?
sheshazelnuts
We explained that most of us are usually kind of pink, but when we visit them (mid-90s, no AC) we're really hot so we turn red.
mallywanders
Lol imagine that, European settlers N America called the natives "Indians" and "Red", but actual Indians see us white folks as red. XD
Tachyon000
You must have been to the good parts lol, just make sure not to go down South if you ever go back
sheshazelnuts
We were in Andhra Pradesh, and everyone we met was lovely. I'd love to see the North sometime as well.
FreyaNicci
While in grad school we would teach the Nepal students how to speak with a southern drawl. It was hilarious.
astrogeek
*Some people in their native lands vs. some people abroad.
samIamm93
*Some people
Myfamilyjewelshaveascendedinsidemeturnedintoovariesandexploded
Jeesus, this is so true.
toofuckingbadimallergictocats
I spent 6 years traveling and can say India is right up there when it comes to racism, same as Korea
ilovecake
As a white woman with blonde hair and blue eyes, I've been fetishized by Indian men & saw racism first-hand working at a Korean company.
circlebreaker
Don't forget about those goddamned Dutch! *shakes fist*
EadEchiC
My wife is Korean. I can totally agree.
IAmDrBanner
I think China is worse, but I don't think it is racism. The rural people are so great, but it feels like the people in Urban area just /1
ElbowDeepInYourDad
Japan is pretty racist also. I learned my lesson when heading out of Tokyo.
FunkyMonkey7503
Forget racism, urban Chinese discriminate against rural Chinese, and not just the mild stereotyping US East Coasters do of Midwesterners.
TheSwedishCryptid
But chinese might hire you just because you're white. You don't even have to do anything, you just need to show up. (dunno if true)
Utanapishtim
It's true, I taught English in China in 2008, most white guys there were literally there to be the "face" at social events.
TheSwedishCryptid
From my understanding it was to show them being an international company "Very big, very legit, We are the best"
Utanapishtim
Yup, pretty much. I'm Asian-American, but my all-out White coworkers were always front and center at press releases, etc.
IAmDrBanner
hate foreigners. Or at least love fucking with them. Making jokes, mocking and overcharging. /2
silver7017
it depends on the city. where I live foreigners are treated like benevolent aliens - we aren't really human, but we have powers beyond 1/2
silver7017
their understanding and they tend to think we are here to use those powers for good (as long as it's their good). 2/2
jhs2595
So, what do they say about white people, then?
lucidaddict
They will call you English and blabber about how you fucked our country and squeezed all riches out of it for 200 years.
littlegoblin
conclusion: every one is a dick in every country
UsernameAttempted
KekmateMeinFreund
Falos
"Us them" thinking for kinship. Exclusivity makes you exclusive. Categorizing is an adaptation for faster pondering, but not w.o compromise.
TheWorldIsATollFreeToilet
Ah, the real world, so similar to Skyrim. *re-used my comment from a similar post*
usernameimgurimgurusername
This is something I can stand by 100%
Snishbler
As a Canadian, sorry.
ThisisBowieback2Bowie
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/n3x5l.gif
thatgreygentleman
Conclusion: this world can only be cleansed in fire
SabakuNoWaOreNoStandoDa
Nuclear fire
doyouevenrobot
Robotic Nuclear Fire
RosegoldEverything
Un checks out.
thatgreygentleman
Automatic Systematic Hydromatic Robot Nuclear Fire
Tachyon000
As an Indian in America, holy shit I've been saying this for years and nobody believed me. Imo, Indians are the most racist people Ive seen
coolseb
Maybe the ones from your state. All Indians are not the same.
Tachyon000
I live in NJ, which is home to like half the Indian population in the US. That+time I've spent in India makes me think it's true for most
coolseb
How many of the 1.3billion people do you know ? How many states have you visited and how many languages do you speak ?
Tachyon000
Visited 11 states, lived in 4, can speak 3 languages (Kannada, Hindi, Gujarati) and can understand Bangla. I know what I'm talking about
coolseb
What's the most racist incident that you have seen in real life ? What did the Indians in question do ?
coolseb
You say Indians are the most racist .. I think you have no clue about the history of race in America. Read some history.
unlimitedhearts
My grandma makes these comments here in the US too. She once told me with such confidence that "black women have psychological problems" pt1
unlimitedhearts
"Because of how taut their hair is pulled" she said this on the train with a black woman in front of us. Indians are super racist.
RealFuckinNito
"psychological issues"... "because of how their hair is pulled"... I am fascinated by the severe ignorance of how neurology works at 1/
RealFuckinNito
display. Like I'm not even mad, holy shit. I need to understand what the fuck she was thinking about because it sure as hell isn't 2/
RealFuckinNito
consistent with any scientific model at all. Like I'm not even mad this is just baffling. 3/3
unlimitedhearts
What's more is She's a mathematician and a physicist. Moral of the story: You can be incredibly intelligent AND incredibly ignorant.
Starvegal
No, it's the sort of a folk-tale intuitive explanation of things that the uneducated rely on to explain what they don't understand
Bluedrift
You should hear the shit they say about each other
ProvidesYouNewShittyLinks
Well india is a diverse country. Of course there is big cultural divide, however divide is not the problem, refusal to cooperate is.
Fishworshipper
Isn't a divide literally just a refusal to cooperate?
ProvidesYouNewShittyLinks
Divide just means they dont want to mix their cultures and traditions, which is natural and good. Like prussians and bavarians.
ITalkAboutGoats
That isn't natural or good. We can all work together, and by driving a hard line between things, it creates racism.
ProvidesYouNewShittyLinks
I think preservation of thousand year old culture is a little more important than a few racial slurs my communist friend
GumboChops
So, does this mean America is less racist than my professors have told me?
noamountofbirdsisenough
Tbh, americans are some of the nicest people I know
cousteau
No, it means Indua is more racist an your professors have told you.
cousteau
India, too.
4amsnacks
Being less racist is still fucking racist and it should be stamped out. We shouldn't get cookies for not being as bad as the others.
ReaLifeSmeagol
Most Americans are not racist at all in my experience, and really depends on the state/area. Compared to India and Korea, sainthood.
4amsnacks
As an American, yes. Yes they are.
GumboChops
Yeah, I kind of had that feeling, just wish my teachers would stop telling me that America is racist, not even as an opinion, but as a fact.
RexFury
I think the US is one of the few places that owns up to it. Not like we're gonna fix it but... ya know...
MooMooGoesTheFish
The fact that racism exists isn't exactly an "opinion". The US isn't as racist as other problem countries, sure, but there are still issues.
distortedlens
So fucking true. Upvoting for awareness.
oldlampsfornew
Since Indians are not a single entity, I'm guessing Indians abroad are less clingy to bad customs/running away from them. Jmo
IsayGooodDay
As an Indian, can verify this is accurate.
lucidaddict
Parth Vader? Can guess.
TrolleyDolly
Yep. Whenever I visit India with my gringo husband he gets all the attention and gets served first in restaurants while I get ignored :/
Patilistan
Lol. Still that's not so bad, imagine him getting insulted in your old hometown.
TrolleyDolly
Ouch. Yeah that probably happens too by my gossiping aunties.
zma123456
In one of my English class we read a short story by an Indian writer, and I pointed out the racism in the story. I know the two major 1/2
zma123456
Languages spoken in the Indian sub continent. The Indians in the class said it's not racism, its just their culture is different. Smh. 2/2
blahblum
Just out of curiosity, which story?
zma123456
This was long time ago. Let me try to find the name of the story. It was an Indian American author.
WasabiLord
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blahblum
Please let me know if you do find it?
Starvegal
2 major languages? I think you're missing 9
zma123456
Speaking of Hindi and Punjabi. Yes there are other languages, but Hindi is the biggest. Punjabi is also a major language.
Starvegal
Hindi, sure, but I wouldn't say Punjabi is THE second major language in India. Probably like Bengali or Marathi.
GiantBlueSpaceship
Just to share information, Punjabi is not even a top 10 language in India :) 1/2
GiantBlueSpaceship
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers_in_India
HolUpSoYouSayin
As an American IT worker, it's almost impossible not to develop a prejudice against them. When you see your friends get replaced by them...
xiafang
this is the most pathetic fucking attitude. just because people from elsewhere can do your job doesn't give you a free pass to be racist.
HolUpSoYouSayin
It just makes you dislike them irrationally.
astrogeek
That's more about the company you work for. I have many Indian friends and work in IT. Says a lot about diversity of experiences.
Patilistan
So blame your Bosses! Abusing the visa system and everything...
rezpawner
That can't be, the man I spoke to may have SOUNDED like Apu from the Simpsons, but he said his name was Bob, and was from Texas.
AwesomeName
The prejudice being that they're better at their job than your friends?
MrStabber
...you know god damn well why jobs are being shipped in India. Don't play dumb.
AwesomeName
I don't think you guys know what the word prejudice means.
ProvidesYouNewShittyLinks
Now imagine how europe feels about immigration
complimentpin
except they're not deporting white people
RealFuckinNito
^ That. Living in a place with high immigration easily teaches you that only big business profit from it, the immigrants rarely if ever 1/
RealFuckinNito
get to a decent living condition because they're willing to work for literal cents and the natives get replaced by them because they're 2/
RealFuckinNito
not willing to take so little for the job that you'd need 4 jobs to get to the minimum wage, the cops rarely if ever do anything 3/
RealFuckinNito
about it even tho the law says they should, and in the end only the employer gets anything out of this shit. I'm not 100% against 4/
ComoSeIguana
The caste system is kinda fucked up.
terps2002
What is the point of this post? Indians are racist and shouldn't complain when they are victims of racial vitriol? This is idiotic.
Feeddabear
It's more about hippocracy. How can you look down on someone so easily and then get upset when others look down on you the same way?
IGLOO8MP
Life is kinda fucked up.
Ryanator50
you can thank the brits for that though.
DirtyWizardsBrew
Maybe a bit more than just "kinda fucked up".
Splinthar
Kinda? That's like saying the Nazis were really terrible, considering.
GiantBlueSpaceship
Indian racists say since Modi (a "backward caste") became PM, casteism over. Like how American racists say since Obama was Pres, racism over
Ihavewaytoomanyfavoritestosort
Even reading about itas a kid I thought it was BS, even more learning THEY STILL USED IT.
GrimRiderJ
Yeah my Punjab wife married a white dude (me) told they have servants back home.
meddleman
I recommend everyone read "A Fine Balance" by Rohinton Mistry. This situation hasn't improved since its inception.
ceubani
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ashleykailani
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wellthatsjustyouropinion
speaking as someone who once had slave children at my disposal, it's tough to knock a culture you're not a part of. they make slavery work.
moopuss
I like how you leave it to our imaginations what those slave children had been doing for you.
jelladelta
I really want to tell you to suck on a penis right now, but i fear my child labour assembled clothes might spontaneously choke me.
neil137
is this sarcastic?
Automatvapen
Okok I think you need to explain this for us?
IHateApostrophes
I think I speak for the vast majority of imgur, and anyone with a conscience when I say, "FUUUUUUCCKKK YOOOOUUU!!!".
TheLastZombieCat
GiantBlueSpaceship
Slave children at your disposal ? Did i read that right ? Or did you have a Sean Spicer moment ?
wellthatsjustyouropinion
these kids were born into a slave caste, both their parents died when they were very young. owner of a farm permitted them to have --->
wellthatsjustyouropinion
a basically shack on his land so they wouldn't be out on the street. and they identified as slaves, it was a tradition/pride thing for --->
wellthatsjustyouropinion
them, but the farm owner and everyone who worked there would give them little jobs/errands to do, but would tip them out waaaay above ---->
GiantBlueSpaceship
And what caste exactly ? I was born in India. If I knew of a slavery situation I would have called the cops. The cops free many people -->
GiantBlueSpaceship
Though what you described doesn't sound like slavery if that's how it happened. More like a village raising a child.
GiantBlueSpaceship
In that situation. Despite the belief that they are all corrupt. You should have called the cops.
MeisterKleister
Also why I'm not of a fan of some ideas of "karma". Means if you're born poor/disabled you deserved it coz you were bad in a previous life.
DanAgain
That's not actually how karma works. Not entirely. It doesnt judge good or bad. It's not a reward system.
Illthinkofausernamelater
It'd the excuse used behind the caste system in India.
MeisterKleister
That's how I roughly understand it. The caste system is a result of and sustained by the belief in karma and reincarnation.
PiGiSpi
Would you mind explaining if you have the time? You do good, you'll get good done to you in the general idea as I've understood it
DanAgain
It's actually not that at all. Like I said, it's not a reward system. The end goal is salvation, which is believed to be able to be achieved
DanAgain
By having no karma. There's negative, neutral, and positive karma. Most Hinduism (it is a varied religion) follows the idea that duty and
MeisterKleister
Sorry, I simplified coz of character limit. I also wrote SOME ideas of karma. Would it be better had I written "did bad in a previous life"?
DanAgain
1) Not really. I explained a little more to the other guy. Karma isn't based in moral righteousness. That's an ideal of western religions
DanAgain
2) It can affect caste, but your new life is completely new and you're an entirely new person. The cosmos doesnt cripple you or hurt your
momemes
kinda effed up is if you can get your animals killed if it touches someone of a higher caste land and there is nothing you can do
DildoNecklaceDesk
I believed that only applies with dhalit
momemes
gotta look into that, had a coworker train people in India years ago, if I ever get into that position since I'm a darkie don't want crap
momemes
from the trainees or Hr will be culturally sensitive and not send me lol
momemes
I hear they make lower castes pig farmers and if their pigs go off of their land a higher caste person can kill it just because
momemes
they lost food and money and no renumeration by the authorities
Neednoggle
I used to work with a dude who wouldn't talk to a girl because she was the wrong caste. I never saw her, but I'm told she was smoking hot,
Neednoggle
and he wouldn't even consider it. And I can tell you that Halifax Nova Scotia is not known for it's huge Indian community. Dude's gonna die
Neednoggle
*its
Cragnock
am in halifax, can confirm
selftaughtgenius
Halifax is slim pickin's regardless of your preferences. Silly guy.
intthemainvoid
Disagree entirely. I've always found Halifax to be great!
Citride
You must be of the high caste
JesusSavesButGretzkyGrabsTheReboundAndScores
Go to Yarmouth. The pickings may be slim but boyyyyy does that fruit hang low.
Neednoggle
alone being that picky.
Alvatore
Everyone dies alone, in the end.
puppiesarethebestpeople
How do you even know what caste people are???
blahblum
Honestly, that's surprising. Even in India, caste is not such a noticeable thing among the educated people living in the major cities, 1/?
blahblum
At least in my experience.
dreadfroggy
It is very messed up. Unless you where born into a high caste.
cookseancook
Paulsburbon
michonnedisapproves
That's kind of the whole point
degenerator
Me, I'm just a caste-away.
HaikuCarChase
Well, at least you're not Wilson.
Cereaza
Well that goes without saying.
usernameimgurimgurusername
Lol. It's worse for "high caste". It is much more difficult to get into good colleges or jobs if you are not in a reserved quota.
dreadfroggy
Yes, have heard about quotas to trying and make it fair for all. Much like America's Affimative Action.
usernameimgurimgurusername
I am not sure about the affirm action but the quota system sucks. I think there should be no reservations for anyone but that's just me!
blahblum
It was supposed to end by 1972 according to the original plan, if I am not mistaken, but yes, it really needs to go!
GiantBlueSpaceship
I get that reservation hurts, but you cant equate that to how dalit's have been historically treated
blahblum
Going to reach through the current system. Reservations are no longer an effective strategy to address the issue. 5/?
blahblum
I personally know people from lower castes who lead the same lifestyle I do, have had the same opportunities that I do, who avail of this3/?
blahblum
There were just 6 seats. Out of these, 4 were reserved. Just 2 were open category. 7/7
blahblum
Meanwhile, people from a weaker background but those who don't fall under these specific categories have never had opportunities. 2/?
blahblum
If we want to level the playing field, it no longer makes sense to do so through reservations. Those we haven't reached yet, we aren't 4/?
blahblum
And the reservations have gotten out of hand. To give you some perspective, I was applying for a masters course last year. 6/?
blahblum
No one is trying to equate the two but the ones who are currently benefiting from reservations have been availing of them for generations1/?
GiantBlueSpaceship
Easy fix. Limit reservation to 1 or 2 generations per family. That way worse off dalits get their turn instead of the rich ones hogging it
usernameimgurimgurusername
Definitely not! It was bad!! I agree.. but that entire generation is dead now and the next one benefited from the system. I am not saying1/2
usernameimgurimgurusername
now but some day that things needs to be removed. It sucks that dalit were treated badly but this generation didn't do that. 2/2
ThoughtfulSatan
I find that Asians are the most racist. Especially to other Asians. Seriously they do not have any filter at all
mallywanders
Once worked a shift with a Mongolian guy. Asked where he was from and mentioned that I'd never met a Mongolian on campus, just a ton of
mallywanders
Chinese students. He told me all about how pissed Mongolians and Chinese are when mixed up. I honestly thougjt that Mongolians better chill
mallywanders
If they come to the US, because to my knowledge he was the first Mongolian I had EVER met.
distortedlens
Damn Asians. They ruined Asia!
RoyalCheapAdvisorRegina7
As an Asian.. I have to agree
Bondedrobin
That's a little racist
ThoughtfulSatan
Bondedrobin
I'll hear your opinion but god forbid you listen to mine
ThoughtfulSatan
You see... one thing that's great about freedom of speech, is that I don't have to listen to it. Also I thought you were joking too...
thelonepig
Singapore was awful. Look at apartment rentals online. "No Indians or Chinese." But the Indians were so freaking nice there!
darkladyvanstar
Wait, what? Are Singaporeans not all kind of Chinese or do you mean they only rent to Singaporeans and not people from China?
thelonepig
Singapore had a lot of Chinese and Malaysian and Indians. From what I read, it seems they think certain folks are messier.
Patilistan
Singaporeans consider themselves literally just that, no connection to the old country. The newly immigrated senior han Chinese are disliked
FunkyMonkey7503
a lot of SE Asians dislike Han Chinese b/c Chinese have a history of dominating commerce. Kind of like "greedy Jew" stereotype in Europe.
Schex44
Russel peters does great stand up and n this. He has specials on Netflix
IAmDrBanner
And they all hate the japanese.
Corrodias
And Japan just hates everyone.
KekmateMeinFreund
darn anime ruining everyone
AsleepByDay
There might be a reason for that, some events in history.
IAmDrBanner
I am not saying there isn't or wondering why. Just pointing out.
10tacles
Apparently is is more a China/Korea thing: "A lot of people died in Indonesia, Vietnam, and elsewhere, too. But Southeast Asians have been
10tacles
generally willing to forgive the Japanese. And the Japanese were in Taiwan even longer than in Korea, but anti-Japanese attitudes there
10tacles
are weak or non-existent." http://nation.time.com/2012/12/11/why-japan-is-still-not-sorry-enough/
smittywjmj
My guess is that Taiwan has a bigger beef woth China. Enemy of my enemy is my friend sort of thing.
cantstopfire
Well Japan decolonized western influence in south east Asia during ww2. They really did their worse in nanjing
eepycatgirl69
Asians are the fucking worst, man. All of em. Even me.
KekmateMeinFreund
darn Asian, go back to russia
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
I don't mind Asians at all, but their culture is FUCKED.
uhhwhat2087
When I was in Japan I was told on a regular basis in the doorway to bars and restaurants "no gaijin" or "no round eyes"
uhhwhat2087
In non tourist places they will turn away non Japanese people. Some because of language barrier some cuz of racism. It's pretty common.
RosegoldEverything
Easy, just squint everywhere you go.
uhhwhat2087
Dang it. It's so simple why didn't I think of that.
darkladyvanstar
They do not actually refuse white people, do they?
OmenRider
It's happened to me, so that's one data point in the "yes, they do" category
iwatanab
Japanese here. The justification is "the dining experience is so much more enjoyable if it's just us. Foreigners make us uncomfortable"
RexFury
It's not like I'm gonna run around touching everyones food and yelling KAWAII
darkladyvanstar
Well...wow. I am sad now. I mean, I am half-Asian. Maybe I can slip by? I still feel sad though.
iwatanab
"Gomen! All tables are booked". Same with housing. It's shitty but they don't see it that way.
AbstractBettaFish
Person with a very limited knowledge of Japanese history here. Is this a legacy of the Tokogawa seclusion thing?