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And this is why cutting the head off the beast will not be enough. MAGA is rotten to its core, more than most realized. And the America way of life, so envied is going the way of the dodo
fivefrozenfishfingers
Trump tried to get his former VP killed. We all saw it happen.
lonelyrangerofthedreams
And the scaryest of them all is that people knew this before and still voted Trump.
And many who knew later still think is not a breaking point.
NotASpeckOfCereal
Yes, envied. Yes we were corrupt before Trump, but still envied. You know this.
allenvasher3000
But Elon musk and Peter thiel chose Vance
Frozenspokes
Vance was selected by Peter Theil.
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
Vance is extremely unlikable but smarter and crafter. He's either going to go over like a lead balloon or complete the mission.
wowzie
Erika will be peacock enough, probably. She can maintain the cult, while they still will have a 'man in power.'
He'll be her political beard.
Heisanevilgenius
It's terrifying how Mike Pence is the hallmark for having a conscience.
75dmcnamara10
And even after knowing that, stupid Americans reelected him. Uggh. That’s the problem really, American idiocy.
ILoveThiPlatform
What's Pence been up too since Trump tried to have him killed? Hiding from the pardoned J6ers?
saucearonichee
Hired as faculty at George Mason University in Virginia
FelixT93
He ran against trump in the primary. I don't recall much else about him since that.
HugfordBlops
Which is why Trump wanted the capitals stormed by a bunch of iron protesters hoping that he would get killed in the crossfire or deliberately targeted
RubbleTrouser
Would you trust leaving your couch alone with Vance even for a moment? I could not bear the thought.
carbonr1
Trump didn't select Vance. Peter Thiel did. Trumps just the maga magnet to get the gop in power.
mmoser35731415
Vance was picked by the heritage foundation.
2Soon4Baboon
This is definitely a factor but the reason he was selected was to secure the bag from peter thiel
FortifiedWhine
Envied??? By whom exactly? Don't make me laugh. The distorted image of the US as the land of milk and honey has been one of the more deceitful exports you've managed to cone up with.
SecretAgentSuperBooger
DukePhelan
No one is going to be motivated by Vance. Vance was selected for his position because one he is willing to do whatever he is told to move the nation forward fascism and two, he has no ability to win an open election on his own.
Vance is a toddie with the charisma of a brick shithouse and less useful to the nation as a whole.
Smartbutnotreally
Peter Thiel selected Vance... For a specific reason..
xj4low
He also replaced almost all of his cabinet, meaning either none of them would come work for him again or they weren't crooked enough for him after his first term.
joot
If you’re expecting Vance to certify his own loss, I suggest you come up with a backup plan.
ThisIsAllYouCouldComeUpWith
Trump isn't the head; he's the rattle shaken by Peter Thiel in order to occupy the attention of the hoi polloi, convincing them to vote against their own best interests.
gesel
More of an accidental alliance. The Federalist judicial coup was critical and predates Putin. Putin was critical and predates Thiel. Thiel was critical and he and Yarvin and Palantir and Methril are all connected. They aren't the same team, but Trump's base served the needs of each.
HeywouldJablowme
Conservatives are the greatest threat this planet has ever known. Worse than Nazis. Much worse.
Tardis1217
At least during the Nazi era, the internet didn't exist. It was literally impossible for a lot of people to find out the truth. MAGA doesn't have that same excuse.
ExplodingPortaPotty
Envied by who exactly? Because I left the US long before the Trump era explicitly because the country was already a shithole and I refused to live there another moment. The American way of life hasn't been enviable in a very long time if ever.
EnderKing567
God I'm so jealous of you. ;-; Wish I could leave the country.
IrateWolfe
Yeah, as a Canadian the American insistence in their own excellence has always been baffling. America has been a shithole for as long as I've been alive, and yet almost every American rabidly insists it's the best country in the world, and that everyone else on the planet is jealous of their quality of llife. My brother had cystic fibrosis, his medication costs were over $100k a year- because we live in Canada, we paid $0.
IrateWolfe
Average life expectancy for a CF patient in Canada is 40+ years, in the US it's something like 25
FermentTheRich3000
The US is the greatest country in the world if you're brainwashed and/or never visited another developed country. Work has sent me ro rural and urban China, Germany, Saudi Arabia, England, and a few remote African countries. I almost miss every flight back, even when I'm in what I assume is some of the most abject poverty on the planet.
IrateWolfe
And that's what blows my mind- almost every American I have ever met is a totally normal, nice, decent person- but they're all brainwashed since an incredibly young age to believe that nothing can ever be better than America, and anybody who says otherwise is lying because they're jealous
jtalbain333
There's also the fact that Vance wrote the foreword to Project 2025. You know, that thing Trump said he had no connection to.
durg33
Vance simply does not have the popularity and weight that Trump does. When Trump is gone, many will compete for the position of the top dog, and republicans will be in disarray for years. Also because Vance doesn't command the maga cult, republican congressfolk won't be so afraid to push back. Currently they are afraid because Trump keeps threatening their re-elections.
veesee
I don't think you've been watching close enough. The whole point of them having Kirk assassinated was to position Vance to take over oin 2028 with a solid quiet base. The Maga threat is bad. The turning point threat will be worse.
LicensedAdHominem
They are adapting Putin/Medvedev strategy. Popularity is a non-factor. Vance will get "elected" to give them more time to make a 3rd term legal, which they'll obviously manage since it's just a matter of time when they can operate without consequences. Then trump again, then vance again...
ChesterBangs
I hated Pence so much will before Trump, Trump made me like and respect him. It hurts me still
ILoveThiPlatform
He made a man who calls his wife "mother" seem reasonable
charondaboatman
Trump won’t survive, Vance will be the new atta boy, he’ll divorce his non-white wife and marry Erika Kirk. Then we’ll be truly doomed.
CornCobMcGee
Unless Congress gets the balls to take down every single person in the admin actively protecting the Epstein pedo ring.
JurgenWindcallerz
ALL HAIL SATA… I mean go america <:-)
CheeseB0t
There's a percentage of users on this site that have a very specific fetish. I'm not into kink shaming but damn
FuManLu
As the prophecy foretold.
KindOfACreep
This !
DonL9
The spread of her group into schools is rather disturbing as far as indoctrinating younger folks. Preparing yet another generation for Christian nationalism. I truly fear for the future of people like my LGBTQ friends and special needs daughter.
leroy666
Get out while you can.
4Astaroth
I think Erika will be the next VP for Vance. That's why they give her all those shows right now. Charlie wasn't popular enough, so now they use her.
cytherians
All the while, Peter Thiel with an endless sinister laugh...
zHurk777
um, the US is already truly doomed. 47 million Americans want what's going on right now and the republican party has unlimited $$$ resources to maintain their power. Might as well accept it, American Democracy is Dead.
TrumpRapesChildren
Then unalive both of them. American problems sometimes requires astutely American Solutions.
Cbouch4rd
Kirk has already announced that they want Vance in 2028, probably with her as Vice or First Lady. And seeding high schools with Turning Point to turn the youth vote. So now that Americans know their plan, are any of the smart ones going to counter it this time?
Apoxyus
She will change her name to trump and theyll get married, and vance will take her name in marriage, thus being another trump president. 🤮🤮
dontrike
Vance doesn't have the personality nor charisma to pull off a cult like Trump does (somehow.)
SavageDrums
There are at least 4 factions in the GQP who all hate each other. They have a tenuous alliance under their carnival barker, but once he's gone there will be a long, bloody war for control of the party.
Whitebeardthepirate
and the fact you and many people are saying this shows their diversion is working. It doesn't matter who's placed in the spotlight, because every one of them is a shield for the real heads of the corruption: Peter Thiel, Stephen Miller, and Russ Vought. they have successfully gotten you angry at the decoy, as it were.
SavageDrums
And? That doesn't change the fact that they will need a good amount of public support behind them to enact their fascism, and without him, no one person will have that support.
Whitebeardthepirate
really? how much public support has trump needed to change the names of places to add his ugly name? or instill his SS in cities, or enact his tarrifs?
SavageDrums
I'm basing my statement on history. Any successful fascist government of the past has required a lot more popular support than they have. And the geography of America will make it way more difficult.
Lun4ticH1gh
Steve Bannon, too.
Whitebeardthepirate
yep, get fatso mclunatic too
NZSheeps
I still reckon his wife will have an "accident" (missed assassination attempt?) so they can grift and capitalise off of the sympathy
RagtimeBetty
I'm thinking his wife will just cease to exist, like a tv series where they just write out a character and never explain it, then the show continues like nothing happened.
Then he marries erikkka kkkirk
TheMershedPerderder
Can you actually see them sympathize with a brown woman???
NZSheeps
Well, no - she'll be dead. JD Vance as the grieving widower, however ....
ArchMagos
He's got the charisma of a gas station burrito, though. He's not going to be the rallying point Trump has (for some fucking reason) been. He's arguably worse than Trump in a lot of ways, but hes not going to be able to maintain the cult, which is a lot of the current GOPs powerbase
Whitebeardthepirate
and the fact you and many people are saying this shows their diversion is working. It doesn't matter who's placed in the spotlight, because every one of them is a shield for the real heads of the corruption: Peter Thiel, Stephen Miller, and Russ Vought. they have successfully gotten you angry at the decoy, as it were.
KitchenClean
I think because he lack charisma is why Trump picked him, same as why he picked Pence, he wanted someone that wouldn't outshine him. Hopefully, it'll encourage some voters to stay at home.
SavageDrums
Tr*mp has the same appeal as a wrestling heel, that's what they want and need. He's the only one with that.... Let's call it "charisma" for lack of a better word...
crypticorb
It is charisma.
Hitler had charisma. So did Stalin, and any cruel demagogue you can think of, but charisma is just like intelligence, you can use it for shit purposes.
TheMuellmann
Once enough parts of the mechanism of power are defunct, the cult is not necessary any more. Won't matter who the front guy is at that point, ain't nobody gonna do sh*t about it for a long while.
RElGNMAN
Vance isn't old, rich & racist enough to approach Trump's power base.
martineb72
Yes and no. Venezuela had populist fascist at one point. When he died the heir, so to speak, was not a populist at all. However, he was already in charge. So he just used the military and police with a heavier hand. So things can be much worse.
override367
Except Trump can't even get the national guard to break protestor skulls, you know thats what he keeps barking at hegseth, and it goes down the chain, but along the way the orders get moderated until its cleaning up leaves in a park
ArcherPointingFromTheComments
They need a demogogue and Vance won't suffice. These are fundamentalist devotees, there'll be a schism over who is the rightful ascendant. Rudy Giuliani or Alex Jones will engage in combat, resulting in both of their deaths. The Tiger King will assume the throne and conservatives will not only just embrace, but demand, gay supremacy all while using the Bible to justify the invasion of non-LGBTQ countries for their fabulous resources.
eathotdog
Im fully expecting the Republicans to treat it like a popularity contest, they'll run Joe Rogan next
crazyspelling
Tiger King as president would be out there campaigning on reclassifying meth as a less dangerous substance and demanding it be cleared for medicinal use, and no one will be brave enough to be like "uhhh amphetamines are routinely prescribed for medicinal use, you're just not supposed to smoke them."
ArcherPointingFromTheComments
The current secretary of health and human services once drove a dead bear from upstate new York and left it in central park while he was on heroin and thinks that Tylenol and circumcisions cause autism. We're already living the fucking clown show
crazyspelling
And all these clowns, they've got even the liberals wondering if maybe the federal government is too broken to come back from them... just what they want. If they can't control it, they want it destroyed. It's fucking wild that they're set up to get what they want either way.
ArcherPointingFromTheComments
Grindr will become the world's richest corporation and lobby extensively for infrastructure projects and the expansion of the public library system. Republicans will forget about their Orange King and instead embrace a multitude of queens. While most will be dumbfounded by this turn of events, the world will be in a good place for a while. Until, of course, the inevitable rise of Adolf Twinkler.
Whitebeardthepirate
and the fact you and many people are saying this shows their diversion is working. It doesn't matter who's placed in the spotlight, because every one of them is a shield for the real heads of the corruption: Peter Thiel, Stephen Miller, and Russ Vought. they have successfully gotten you angry at the decoy, as it were.
ArcherPointingFromTheComments
Who the fuck believes in Adolf Twinkler, you dork?
Whitebeardthepirate
who the fuck misses the message, you fucking smegma coated cockwomble?
CALAMOSCOPYJANE
I thought Peter Thiel was Adolf Twinkler?
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
Wouldn't it be awesome if Vance has been playing everyone all along? I mean, what if once Trump carks it, and Vance is sworn in, he turns around and fires everyone Trump hired? He then walks back all of those executive orders, DOGE firings, and so on. That would be something to see.
GravyEducation
I like your optimism
in70x
I sometimes dream one of those folks in playing a long con… And will save us and be an absolute legend… sad I have only that as a coping mechanism ….
DukePhelan
Yeah, until you consider that Republicans are all immoral monsters working towards the destruction of the republic. There are no 'good' Republicans.
Well, there are, but their don't get out and about much anymore.
SavageDrums
He as completely owned and operated by Peter Thiel, and will turn the country into a technofascist theocracy.
Fortunately nobody would follow him anywhere...
Deonan
That would take someone with morals, and someone with morals would have spoken up or done something a LONG time ago. They wouldn't let it get this far.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
It would, indeed. I think of it as the "Batman Begins" ending.
Thekindofkindlyman
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
Eleshar24
Vance has been bankrolled by Peter Thiel. If you are making a list of Hydra heads to cut off, I'd defo suggest placing Thiel above Trump.
mmoser35731415
I just commented that he/V was picked by HF. When dtump passes I'm sure HF thinks we will all be so relieved and they think we won't realize they've been control the whole time.
Hexidimentional
he's willing to throw his own wife and children under the bus for political gain, i dont think that's his plan here
Magnar1183
He also told a fuckload of white retards that they "dOn'T hAvE tO aPOlOgiZE fOR bEInG wHIte AnYmORE!" He's full-blown white supremecist!
Hexidimentional
as someone who fits the medical definition of retard i dont appreciate it being used as a perjorative.
Magnar1183
I, too, fit the medical definition of a retard.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
I didn't say it was. Just that it would be awesome if it was.
Hexidimentional
Obama was the president of hope, this is the president of despair
Whitebeardthepirate
and the fact you and many people are saying this shows their diversion is working. It doesn't matter who's placed in the spotlight, because every one of them is a shield for the real heads of the corruption: Peter Thiel, Stephen Miller, and Russ Vought. they have successfully gotten you angry at the decoy, as it were.
Froggie243
Buddy, we know. There's been 1593 posts a week screaming this on this site for 10 years.
Whitebeardthepirate
then if people know, why aren't we putting up posts about organizing a mob to go after them, instead of constantly shit talking in the spotlight. that's like watching an arsonist light a forest on fire, and only focusing on the forest fire.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
It's a musing, not a belief. Plus, I'm not angry. Also, I'm not even in the US.
And everyone seems to know that Trump and Vance are not the power/corruption brokers.
Whitebeardthepirate
and just because you're outside the US, you think their poison won't seep elsewhere if not stopped? what's going to stop a wannabe dictator of where you live from going: "well if trump can do it, so can I"
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
We have compulsory voting, a preferential voting system, and a way of dismissing Prime Ministers who break the law or overstep their boundaries . That method of dismissal does not require impeachment or any other parliamentary process - just approval from the Govenor General who is the local representative of the King of England.
Additionally, a party-based coup can remove a sitting Prime Minister via a party vote.
Whitebeardthepirate
yes, because the status quo has always held up and will never ever change due to corruption right?