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BootsDusty
kudasiNezuko13
I miss him too ?
Sumpte
You miss the guy who promised to codify THIS EXACT RIGHT into law, then once elected, said he wasn't going to bother doing it?
brohemoth
America is a joke. Sorry.
dynoman
Too bad he did nothing to prevent this.
redditmcredditface
Stop having sex with republicans
montyp3
Someone has to tell Thomas there is an easier way to get a divorce
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Yeah, he doesn't have to work his way back to Loving v. Virginia.
OceanCitySoul
The election will not go well for the fascist Republicans.
Xander77777
Motherfucker, you shrugged as a Supreme Court seat was stolen right from under you, and your chosen successor still won't do shit about it.
sirava
Vote. Organize. Donate.
Obama promised to codify abortion rights in 2007, people voted for him, he abandoned the promise. "Vote" is more nuanced than voting Dem.
millicentfrastley
He *could* have encouraged Congress to codify Roe v Wade into law.
JimboTCB
But if he did that they wouldn't have been able to continue to use the precariousness of Roe v Wade as a campaign issue
DrNoPants
You simply cannot have a Free Society with legitimate government of the people and by the people if without gauranteed bodily autoonomy
Ultratoxic
Drone strike the SCOTUS
iateabagel
I hate my country.
tinyfootprints
1984 has nothing on the SCOTUS.
Zeddicuszull
Next up is banning contraception and banning women from interstate travel.
Swarrly
This is Obama's fault. He promised to codify Roe when in office but when he had a senate supermajority "It wasn't his legislative priority"
NorseGaelEngel
Obama wouldn't codify Roe v Wade into law whenhe had a super majority despite campaign promises. He can shut up about this.
taskinroe
Today, I recall that Obama promised codification of Roe as a campaign promise. Never even tried.
Twice.
NewToTheEnterwbs
I'd rather blame the pres who set it up but that's accurate. He could have but didn't.
pierremanslapper
He had the majority to make access to abortion a law and didn’t or couldn’t.
Rosscochisle
He didn't want to, its one of the few issues they use to get the left worked up.
lotsofleeches
Obama could have made codifying Roe into law a priority in 2009 when he has a supermajority in the Senate. He didn't. He's no hero.
Yes this! it was one of his promises and then when he got in he said it was complicated. They dont want to codify it because its one of/
the Democrats biggest tools to try and motivate their base and could have prevented this a long time ago.
IAmGORT
Vote & Destroy the GOP Theocrats. They have shown each day with their cock-blocking legislation, they hate Americans & hate America . VOTE!
SomeSorcerer
Not sure we can vote our way out of this.
Bastille moment then?, if it's a revolution they want give it to them. "Give me Freedom or give me Death.". America is truly at a Xroads.
It is dark times friend.
Whatswrongwiththispicture
Fascists are going to do what fascists do. Everyone should be scared as hell. We need to vote the radical conservatives out in November
mtbelley
No they hate non white male America. They love their white male rich friends.
AnonymousBach
Wow, this guy seems to have a lot of ideas on how to make things better. If only he'd had some kind of elected office, like alderman...
DeathScourge
You do know that a president is lucky if they can remotely get half the things they promised in their speeches to go through?
Not only that, but it's an entirely different being behind the chair vs where we are. We need changes, we can't rely on one person to fix it
Today a lot of people are wishing "protecting fundamental rights" had been one of those things
FishieStardust
Never has a constitutional right been taken away, and it's going to get worse. LGBTQ rights, contraception, etc. I have fewer rights /1
now than a gun. I hope those justices get dragged through the streets. /2
andwings2go
So now that we are a shithole country run by religious fanatics are we going to bomb ourselves?
Only the parts that have oil. So Texas and North Dakota.
StuckInBetweeen
It's interesting in a way, theocratic oligarchies like the US and Afghanistan can be just as bad as atheist majority ones like China.
It’s all the same, the extremely wealthy people run everything.
xantous4201
Well Gents, Looks like all that one night stand pussy well about to dry up. no sane woman gonna give it up if it means 100% baby time 1/2
No more Raw interaction, gotta wrap up 4 times with rubber band on the end. Fucking dumbass repub chad bros shooting themselves in the 2/3
foot and don't even realize it yet lol.
They're counting on it. Sexual frustration has always been a tool of the religious right. Look at how ideologically backwards incels are.
The more miserable and angry people are, the easier it is to direct their pent-up frustration against feminism, liberalism etc.
ReaperCDN
"You're an alarmist. It's not going to be civil war you idiot." - Huh. Look how it's shaping up. Wonder what comes next? Gays? Officially /1
Darkspire
Loving Vs. Virginia
MuffinMan5666
Contraceptive also
declaring the church the objective authority over the constitution and rights? Getting back to bloodlines again? Yes, yes and yes. 2/2
40185
I’d be shocked if they didn’t try to do something about gay marriage
They're not just after marriage equality. They'll try to bring back anti-sodomy laws.
My bad Thomas has already mentioned they should look at that too
Yep. Literally part of his opinion. They're going to make evangelical Christianity the official state religion at some point. Mark this.
*National religion.
PoliticalWanderer
Yeah, but democrats don't wave magic wands and fix everything, so what we all need to do is vote GOP. You know, to teach them a lesson. /s
kakivara
Let's also give the Uvalde PD more funding.
Democrats had 50 years to codify Roe. They chose not to. Today is at least partially on them.
ijdod
Not from the US; what would have prevented a subsequent GOP majority from scrapping it again?
The filibuster, which Dems refuse to get rid of.
realizedagain
No, for a lot of those 50 years there were plenty of anti-choice Democrats, too. This is on conservatives, regardless of party.
SilverNicktail
It's a cute idea to think that abortion rights were as popular 20, 30, 40 years ago as they are now, but they weren't.
end3r420
What are you talking about abortion rights have been one of the main political issues in american for as long as ive been alive
Yes, and perhaps you should read my comment again, because they're weren't as *popular*, not as *contentious*.
BoeniT
But they had only from 1975-1979 a supermajority in the senate. If no repub wants to vote in favour… simple majority means nothing w filib.
If only it only took a simple majority to get rid of the filibuster... oh wait...
It sounds like the solution is to get rid of the filibuster, which takes a simple majority vote. When have the Democrats scheduled that?
IhopeyougetstageIIIcoloncancer
That still feels like saying "if she didn't want to get raped she shouldn't have dressed so slutty". Blame the people who did the bad thing.
gambor
The difference is that it's not a moral failure to dress however you want, it IS a moral failure to leave the people who need you to rot.
Nefel
You can blame Republicans and still be mad at the Democrats. They aren't the victims, they're the cops standing outside the classroom.
That is... an uncomfortably apt metaphor. Point conceded.
It's a stupid metaphor.
Hambonerhandy
alsoAzrael
Not really fair. This was at a time when there were no hints that the supreme court would take such an astonishing step. Nobody saw this.
Literally everyone saw this, that's why Obama promised it in 2007.
Everyone saw the republican party making noise about abortion, that doesn't mean everyone saw the court actually reversing the decision.
Can you explain why Obama made the promise in the first place, then?
Can you explain why it was bad to vote for HRC when Trump was clearly going to stack the courts with pro-life partisan hacks?
You can't be for real. Nobody saw this coming???? Talk about repeating the main party line for everything over the past 20 years.
Same way nobody saw omicron coming when kamala said it in December, who would have thought there were variants?
I've seen this guy post similar comments before. He simply can't accept that Democrats are effectively useless enablers of Republicans.
Yeah that's a good 90% of the users here
Both siders such as yourself are useless enablers of republicans. You see what republicans do and blame democrats.
Buddy the Kool aid comes in both red and blue flavors.
This is not "both siding" the issue, it's legitimate criticism of how fucking useless the Democrats are as opposition to Republicans. They >
TAYLORSWlFT
Barry, my man, you had a 60-40 Dem Senate and a house majority and all you did with it was a meh-but-not-great healthcare bill and (1/2)
False, he had 59 dem senators. So still vulnerable to the filibuster which reps love to use to stop anything dems want to pass.
If only there was a way to get rid of the filibuster with a simple majority, like they had in 2008, and still have right now.
oldguyexlurker
I get it, but aren't you really saying a crime is the fault of the person who should have stopped it, rather than the person committing it?
No, they aren't. They're saying that if a politician promised to stop something 14 years ago, then decided they couldn't be bothered, that >
maybe they should shut the fuck up.
Do the Uvalde police deserve criticism for failing to act?
Blame for deaths they could have prevented, had they done their jobs? Yes, absolutely. Blame for the shooting, no. That was the shooter.
If the "villain" killsl someone because the protagonsit doesn't comply with his demand, it's still THE VILLAIN who kills the person.
Yep. And, if the "good guys" are standing around refusing to engage while THE VILLAIN is killing people, then THE GOOD GUYS get a share of
I mean, what would you say the Democrats primary job has been the last 5 years? Is it protecting the country from Republicans? Have they
an auto bailout. You then let McConnell block Garland for a year. You could have forced a govt shutdown to get him seated. You blinked. 2/3
spiffylookingnerfherder
Didn't even need a shutdown. Could have forced the nomination through. Consulting the senate is decorum, not law.
So this is on you too, buddy. Sorry. You knew this was their plan and you didn't do anything to stop it. (3/3)
Ark161
one team was at least trying to give the optics of playing by the rules, why the other does not.
Potts
STOP TRYING TO PLAY FAIR WITH FASCISTS
AlwaysInTheshadows
That's some tough love right there but doesn't make it any less true.
Icouri
I agree with your assessment of the result, but when the Rs said "we aren't going to cooperate with ANYTHING" it's hard to get anything done
He had a 60-40 Senate and the house. He didn't need R votes. He could have made abortion rights a priority and didn't.
FlissFloss86Gaming
So when Republicans strip away our rights, it's actually still Democrats' fault? Sorry, not going along with that BS. R's are responsible
ILikeToCallItLostWages
It can be a confluence of both.
SunBrolem
Democrats are the cops standing outside the classroom during the shooting. They didn't cause it, but they aren't stopping it either.
BannedHammer
So when do we blame the people for voting these people into office?
I didn't see your comment and thought of the exact same analogy. Imagine that.
Who deserves to be criticized for the Uvalde school shooting? The shooter, right? But don't the police also deserve criticism for failing to
dryrunner
Separate issue. With that logic you can eventually blame anyone for anything. Not productive.
protect people when they had the opportunity to do so?
He was always too optimistic about Republicans. Assumed they wanted a better country as well, instead they just want the opposite of
whatever democrats supported.
lDanielHolm
Obama was more or less a pre-Reagan Republican. Then again, many of the other Democrats are the same.
vanishinggirl
He was trying not to be so black- can’t have them getting uppity, ya know! Seriously though, he did have to walk a fine line.
anyoneyouwantx
True, he was dealing with mustard and tan suits. They wouldn’t let him do anything.
tarnok
The fucking fillibuster bruh
He was elected with a 60-40 Dem Senate bruh
Filibuster still a thing ??♀️
Obama was doing his best to keep everything going the proper way. He wasn't using executive orders or violating laws to get what he wanted.
False on all counts. There was never a 60 vote majority in the Senate.
Secondly, Republicans were filibustering everything the democrats had planned out. MCconnel said on live TV that they would do everything
to make sure Obama was a one term president. When that couldn't happen, Republicans continued with the filibusters as protest.
BootsDusty
kudasiNezuko13
I miss him too ?
Sumpte
You miss the guy who promised to codify THIS EXACT RIGHT into law, then once elected, said he wasn't going to bother doing it?
brohemoth
America is a joke. Sorry.
dynoman
Too bad he did nothing to prevent this.
redditmcredditface
Stop having sex with republicans
montyp3
Someone has to tell Thomas there is an easier way to get a divorce
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Yeah, he doesn't have to work his way back to Loving v. Virginia.
OceanCitySoul
The election will not go well for the fascist Republicans.
Xander77777
Motherfucker, you shrugged as a Supreme Court seat was stolen right from under you, and your chosen successor still won't do shit about it.
sirava
Vote. Organize. Donate.
Sumpte
Obama promised to codify abortion rights in 2007, people voted for him, he abandoned the promise. "Vote" is more nuanced than voting Dem.
millicentfrastley
He *could* have encouraged Congress to codify Roe v Wade into law.
JimboTCB
But if he did that they wouldn't have been able to continue to use the precariousness of Roe v Wade as a campaign issue
DrNoPants
You simply cannot have a Free Society with legitimate government of the people and by the people if without gauranteed bodily autoonomy
Ultratoxic
Drone strike the SCOTUS
iateabagel
I hate my country.
tinyfootprints
1984 has nothing on the SCOTUS.
Zeddicuszull
Next up is banning contraception and banning women from interstate travel.
Swarrly
This is Obama's fault. He promised to codify Roe when in office but when he had a senate supermajority "It wasn't his legislative priority"
NorseGaelEngel
Obama wouldn't codify Roe v Wade into law whenhe had a super majority despite campaign promises. He can shut up about this.
taskinroe
Today, I recall that Obama promised codification of Roe as a campaign promise. Never even tried.
taskinroe
Twice.
NewToTheEnterwbs
I'd rather blame the pres who set it up but that's accurate. He could have but didn't.
pierremanslapper
He had the majority to make access to abortion a law and didn’t or couldn’t.
Rosscochisle
He didn't want to, its one of the few issues they use to get the left worked up.
lotsofleeches
Obama could have made codifying Roe into law a priority in 2009 when he has a supermajority in the Senate. He didn't. He's no hero.
Rosscochisle
Yes this! it was one of his promises and then when he got in he said it was complicated. They dont want to codify it because its one of/
Rosscochisle
the Democrats biggest tools to try and motivate their base and could have prevented this a long time ago.
IAmGORT
Vote & Destroy the GOP Theocrats. They have shown each day with their cock-blocking legislation, they hate Americans & hate America . VOTE!
SomeSorcerer
Not sure we can vote our way out of this.
IAmGORT
Bastille moment then?, if it's a revolution they want give it to them. "Give me Freedom or give me Death.". America is truly at a Xroads.
SomeSorcerer
It is dark times friend.
Whatswrongwiththispicture
Fascists are going to do what fascists do. Everyone should be scared as hell. We need to vote the radical conservatives out in November
mtbelley
No they hate non white male America. They love their white male rich friends.
AnonymousBach
Wow, this guy seems to have a lot of ideas on how to make things better. If only he'd had some kind of elected office, like alderman...
DeathScourge
You do know that a president is lucky if they can remotely get half the things they promised in their speeches to go through?
DeathScourge
Not only that, but it's an entirely different being behind the chair vs where we are. We need changes, we can't rely on one person to fix it
AnonymousBach
Today a lot of people are wishing "protecting fundamental rights" had been one of those things
FishieStardust
Never has a constitutional right been taken away, and it's going to get worse. LGBTQ rights, contraception, etc. I have fewer rights /1
FishieStardust
now than a gun. I hope those justices get dragged through the streets. /2
andwings2go
So now that we are a shithole country run by religious fanatics are we going to bomb ourselves?
Zeddicuszull
Only the parts that have oil. So Texas and North Dakota.
StuckInBetweeen
It's interesting in a way, theocratic oligarchies like the US and Afghanistan can be just as bad as atheist majority ones like China.
andwings2go
It’s all the same, the extremely wealthy people run everything.
xantous4201
Well Gents, Looks like all that one night stand pussy well about to dry up. no sane woman gonna give it up if it means 100% baby time 1/2
xantous4201
No more Raw interaction, gotta wrap up 4 times with rubber band on the end. Fucking dumbass repub chad bros shooting themselves in the 2/3
xantous4201
foot and don't even realize it yet lol.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
They're counting on it. Sexual frustration has always been a tool of the religious right. Look at how ideologically backwards incels are.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
The more miserable and angry people are, the easier it is to direct their pent-up frustration against feminism, liberalism etc.
ReaperCDN
"You're an alarmist. It's not going to be civil war you idiot." - Huh. Look how it's shaping up. Wonder what comes next? Gays? Officially /1
Darkspire
Loving Vs. Virginia
MuffinMan5666
Contraceptive also
ReaperCDN
declaring the church the objective authority over the constitution and rights? Getting back to bloodlines again? Yes, yes and yes. 2/2
40185
I’d be shocked if they didn’t try to do something about gay marriage
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
They're not just after marriage equality. They'll try to bring back anti-sodomy laws.
40185
My bad Thomas has already mentioned they should look at that too
ReaperCDN
Yep. Literally part of his opinion. They're going to make evangelical Christianity the official state religion at some point. Mark this.
ReaperCDN
*National religion.
PoliticalWanderer
Yeah, but democrats don't wave magic wands and fix everything, so what we all need to do is vote GOP. You know, to teach them a lesson. /s
kakivara
Let's also give the Uvalde PD more funding.
AnonymousBach
Democrats had 50 years to codify Roe. They chose not to. Today is at least partially on them.
ijdod
Not from the US; what would have prevented a subsequent GOP majority from scrapping it again?
Sumpte
The filibuster, which Dems refuse to get rid of.
realizedagain
No, for a lot of those 50 years there were plenty of anti-choice Democrats, too. This is on conservatives, regardless of party.
SilverNicktail
It's a cute idea to think that abortion rights were as popular 20, 30, 40 years ago as they are now, but they weren't.
end3r420
What are you talking about abortion rights have been one of the main political issues in american for as long as ive been alive
SilverNicktail
Yes, and perhaps you should read my comment again, because they're weren't as *popular*, not as *contentious*.
BoeniT
But they had only from 1975-1979 a supermajority in the senate. If no repub wants to vote in favour… simple majority means nothing w filib.
AnonymousBach
If only it only took a simple majority to get rid of the filibuster... oh wait...
Sumpte
It sounds like the solution is to get rid of the filibuster, which takes a simple majority vote. When have the Democrats scheduled that?
IhopeyougetstageIIIcoloncancer
That still feels like saying "if she didn't want to get raped she shouldn't have dressed so slutty". Blame the people who did the bad thing.
gambor
The difference is that it's not a moral failure to dress however you want, it IS a moral failure to leave the people who need you to rot.
Nefel
You can blame Republicans and still be mad at the Democrats. They aren't the victims, they're the cops standing outside the classroom.
IhopeyougetstageIIIcoloncancer
That is... an uncomfortably apt metaphor. Point conceded.
AnonymousBach
It's a stupid metaphor.
Hambonerhandy
alsoAzrael
Not really fair. This was at a time when there were no hints that the supreme court would take such an astonishing step. Nobody saw this.
Sumpte
Literally everyone saw this, that's why Obama promised it in 2007.
alsoAzrael
Everyone saw the republican party making noise about abortion, that doesn't mean everyone saw the court actually reversing the decision.
Sumpte
Can you explain why Obama made the promise in the first place, then?
alsoAzrael
Can you explain why it was bad to vote for HRC when Trump was clearly going to stack the courts with pro-life partisan hacks?
Hambonerhandy
You can't be for real. Nobody saw this coming???? Talk about repeating the main party line for everything over the past 20 years.
Hambonerhandy
Same way nobody saw omicron coming when kamala said it in December, who would have thought there were variants?
Sumpte
I've seen this guy post similar comments before. He simply can't accept that Democrats are effectively useless enablers of Republicans.
Hambonerhandy
Yeah that's a good 90% of the users here
alsoAzrael
Both siders such as yourself are useless enablers of republicans. You see what republicans do and blame democrats.
Hambonerhandy
Buddy the Kool aid comes in both red and blue flavors.
Sumpte
This is not "both siding" the issue, it's legitimate criticism of how fucking useless the Democrats are as opposition to Republicans. They >
TAYLORSWlFT
Barry, my man, you had a 60-40 Dem Senate and a house majority and all you did with it was a meh-but-not-great healthcare bill and (1/2)
BoeniT
False, he had 59 dem senators. So still vulnerable to the filibuster which reps love to use to stop anything dems want to pass.
Sumpte
If only there was a way to get rid of the filibuster with a simple majority, like they had in 2008, and still have right now.
oldguyexlurker
I get it, but aren't you really saying a crime is the fault of the person who should have stopped it, rather than the person committing it?
Sumpte
No, they aren't. They're saying that if a politician promised to stop something 14 years ago, then decided they couldn't be bothered, that >
Sumpte
maybe they should shut the fuck up.
kakivara
Do the Uvalde police deserve criticism for failing to act?
oldguyexlurker
Blame for deaths they could have prevented, had they done their jobs? Yes, absolutely. Blame for the shooting, no. That was the shooter.
oldguyexlurker
If the "villain" killsl someone because the protagonsit doesn't comply with his demand, it's still THE VILLAIN who kills the person.
kakivara
Yep. And, if the "good guys" are standing around refusing to engage while THE VILLAIN is killing people, then THE GOOD GUYS get a share of
kakivara
I mean, what would you say the Democrats primary job has been the last 5 years? Is it protecting the country from Republicans? Have they
TAYLORSWlFT
an auto bailout. You then let McConnell block Garland for a year. You could have forced a govt shutdown to get him seated. You blinked. 2/3
spiffylookingnerfherder
Didn't even need a shutdown. Could have forced the nomination through. Consulting the senate is decorum, not law.
TAYLORSWlFT
So this is on you too, buddy. Sorry. You knew this was their plan and you didn't do anything to stop it. (3/3)
Ark161
one team was at least trying to give the optics of playing by the rules, why the other does not.
Potts
STOP TRYING TO PLAY FAIR WITH FASCISTS
AlwaysInTheshadows
That's some tough love right there but doesn't make it any less true.
Icouri
I agree with your assessment of the result, but when the Rs said "we aren't going to cooperate with ANYTHING" it's hard to get anything done
TAYLORSWlFT
He had a 60-40 Senate and the house. He didn't need R votes. He could have made abortion rights a priority and didn't.
FlissFloss86Gaming
So when Republicans strip away our rights, it's actually still Democrats' fault? Sorry, not going along with that BS. R's are responsible
ILikeToCallItLostWages
It can be a confluence of both.
SunBrolem
Democrats are the cops standing outside the classroom during the shooting. They didn't cause it, but they aren't stopping it either.
BannedHammer
So when do we blame the people for voting these people into office?
kakivara
I didn't see your comment and thought of the exact same analogy. Imagine that.
kakivara
Who deserves to be criticized for the Uvalde school shooting? The shooter, right? But don't the police also deserve criticism for failing to
dryrunner
Separate issue. With that logic you can eventually blame anyone for anything. Not productive.
kakivara
protect people when they had the opportunity to do so?
dryrunner
He was always too optimistic about Republicans. Assumed they wanted a better country as well, instead they just want the opposite of
dryrunner
whatever democrats supported.
lDanielHolm
Obama was more or less a pre-Reagan Republican. Then again, many of the other Democrats are the same.
vanishinggirl
He was trying not to be so black- can’t have them getting uppity, ya know! Seriously though, he did have to walk a fine line.
anyoneyouwantx
True, he was dealing with mustard and tan suits. They wouldn’t let him do anything.
tarnok
The fucking fillibuster bruh
TAYLORSWlFT
He was elected with a 60-40 Dem Senate bruh
tarnok
Filibuster still a thing ??♀️
DeathScourge
Obama was doing his best to keep everything going the proper way. He wasn't using executive orders or violating laws to get what he wanted.
Zeddicuszull
False on all counts. There was never a 60 vote majority in the Senate.
DeathScourge
Secondly, Republicans were filibustering everything the democrats had planned out. MCconnel said on live TV that they would do everything
DeathScourge
to make sure Obama was a one term president. When that couldn't happen, Republicans continued with the filibusters as protest.