Considering Disney's recent streak of "everything has to be PC and be åleasing to the lowest common denominator", I'd say they can just fuck off a cliff instead of ruining Muppets.
As much as I truly adore this idea, I'm getting really tired of countless iterations on 'I'll never understand why they keep making highly profitable movies instead of this thing I like, which has proven to be way less profitable'
Muppet Hocus Pocus. Miss piggy as Winifred, Gonzo as Mary, Abby Cadabby as sarah. Fozzie bear as Billy the zombie. animal as Thackery Binx. Kermit as Max
Oh, like my favorite response to "remake one movie, keep one human actor, rest are muppets" is Thor, keep Tom Hiddleston. Imagine his surprise when he finds out he's adopted!
I weirdly would not mind a Atlantis live action remake. All human characters and the few monsters and future tech was all pretty clean and easy to do with CGI. If the found something interesting to do, it could be cool. Plus:
They make money -shrug- normies, parents with kids - families - they go to watch them. Like, in droves - Disney only does shit repeatedly if it makes money - that simple. They abandoned 2D animation in general for the same reason - there was more money in computer generated animation
All good options so far, but the greatest use of the muppets would be Jesus Christ Super Star. - Kermit as Jesus obviously. - Gonzo as Judas (with his chicken backup dancers). - Miss Piggy as Mary Magdalene. And my favourite: Fozzie Bear as King Herod.
"So You are the Christ. "You're the great Jesus Christ, wacka wacka!"
I mean, I'm bummed we didn't get more classic literary stories turned into muppet films. Feel like Muppet Moby Dick would be phenomenal. Or maybe Muppet Huckleberry Finn.
Kermit: Luke Skywalker. Miss Piggy: Princess Leia. Fozzie Bear: Han Solo. Gonzo: Chewbacca. Sam the Eagle: Obi Wan Kenobi. Dr. Bunsen Honeydew: C-3PO. Beaker: R2-D2. Statler: Darth Vader. Waldorf: Emperor Palpatine.
Staler and Waldorf would both be Palpatine. And all they do is show up to heckle everyone; except they have, and regularly use, force lightning during the heckling.
I'll accept all remakes. The princess bride as a snl skit movie. Dark and gritty the princess bride. Michael Bay's the princess bride. Wes Anderson's the princess bride. The cohen brother's the princess bride. The princess bride the musical. Princess Bride 2 electric boogaloo. A princess bride isekai. Princess Bride in space. News radio princess bride. A radio play princess bride. A princess bride performed by dogs and cats. A princess bride with no people at all.
I would accept one other version: Get the original actor for the kid to play the grandfather. During all scenes of the story, just use the original footage, possibly edited to fit modern visual/audio quality standards.
That's it. Just have the exact same story, told by the kid from the first, to his grandson.
Wesley: Kermit, Buttercup: Miss Piggy, Inigo: Gonzo, Fezik: Sweetums, Vezzini: Pepe, Miracle Max: Bunsen (Beaker will play himself, replacing the wife), Priest: Swedish Chef, The Albino: Animal covered in flour, Count Rugen: Fozzie (Inigo's looking for a bear. Would make a funny bit when he asks Roberts about it). Humperdink would be a human actor. The grandson could be... idk Walter? Grandpa could be Sam. And of course Statler and Woldorf appear at random to heckle.
Kermit: Wesley.... Miss Piggy: ButterCup..... Grover: Inigo...... Snuffleupagus: Fezzik..... Rizzo the Rat: Vezzini..... Grandfather: Big Bird..... Grandson: Elmo..... Gonzo: Prince Humperdink.... Rowlf: Count Rugen...... Beaker: The Albino.... Fill in the others...
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Humperdink should be played by the only human in the cast, with his affections for Buttercup (Piggy) played completely straight. Your other picks are great though.
Ok these are some amazingly good ideas. Except of course Fezzik. Absolutely Sweetums. I'd like to suggest one other change though. Instead of having a grandfather reading a bedtime story how about a couple sitting on a couch in front of a fireplace telling a story to a grandchild. The grandparents would be Cary Elwes and Robin Wright. Every once in a while the scene cuts back to the grandparents and Robin is killing herself laughing and says "I don't remember the story going like that".
Grover is from Sesame Street. Does he still count? Anyway, I think Zoot or Floyd Pepper should play Inigo. (Members of Dr Teeth’s electric mayhem band)
There's a few sesame street chars there. Starting from encaitar and your suggestions, I'd say Bobo the bear as Fezzik, Sam Eagle as the grandfather, Robin as the grandson... I'd also pick someone else as Rugen... Maybe put Gonzo there? Or have Scooter play a villain. Link Hogthrob for Humperdink (the captain from pigs in space). Fozzie as Miracle Max, maybe Janice as Valerie, or Gonzo and Camilla the chicken for a goofier take on the two. Pepe would make an entertaining Inigo as well.
now this one might be controversial but... muppet starwars (original trilogy). gonzo would be luke, kermit would be han, christopher lee would be yoda, the eagle guy would be vader, chewbacca would be the rock (but talking normaly and just no one but han understands him) bert and ernie would be the c3p0 and r2, fozzy would be obi-wan, animal would be jubba and meep his pet, beaker would be boba, idk who to put as the 2 that usualy sit in the balcony, but they would need to be in it as well...
Statler and Waldorf. But have them as R2-D2 and C-3P0, because the rights to Bert and Ernie (and the other Sesame Street characters) are held by CTW, IIRC.
They still get the balcony, but the balcony changes with the set. So it looks carved from sandstone on Tattooine, and made of metal on the Death Etar, etc.
while that fits nicely, with the changes mentioned above about swedish chef being in charge of storm trooper chickens, and the scene setup further into that convo, i simply cant change chewy from being the rock.
Swedish Chef is operating an AT-ST when there's suddenly the sound of a tin can being peeled open, and The Rock as Chewbacca drops in from above and begins wrestling him to the ground while he makes panicked Swedish Chef noises
I never understand when someone does a Muppet cast and doesn't put Kermit in the "relatable everyman" slot. Like...maaaaybe if you put Scooter or Robin in there, but Gonzo? No.
well you cant put him as luke, cause then the incest thing gets worse, cause you know piggy wouldnt care. plus gonzo is the right level of stupid to point a light saber straight at his face early on.
Muppet movies have a proud tradition of Gonzo and Rizzo being two goofy side characters doing comic relief on the side while driving the story. With apologies, that is clearly Threepio and Artoo, respectively, in this situation.
We're also just skipping over the trend that Muppet adaptations have humans for the main character, with Gonzo typically getting second billing, and Kermit and Piggy doing the side character love story. So by that formula, you'd have Sebastian Stan as Luke (as the prophecy foretold), Gonzo as Obi-Wan, and then yeah, Kermit as Han so that he can get Miss Piggy in the end. But he'd have to dig deep into his Wilkins coffee days to be that much of a scoundrel.
i was gonna go with trying to think up a diffrent muppet for the main character but after you brought that up i realized having someone be the child of a muppet is so much funnier. kermit not being able to be a scoundrel would be part a running joke. like in the scene where han shot first greedo tries to fire but has the safety on and cant, so kermit helps him with it and accidentally shoots him while he's fixing the gun for him.
Oh, I guess I ended up discarding my follow up comment about Fozzie as Chewbacca because he's usually close to Kermit (and lampshading The Muppet Movie while they're in the cockpit of the Millennium Chicken), and there would have to be a whole bit with them trying to play up Fozzie as a credible threat. It peaks with the chess scene with Statler and Waldorf roasting Fozzie instead of going the "Let the bear win" route.
Now that I think about it, maybe Gonzo would fit better as C-3PO because he can take himself somewhat seriously while still being comic relief, and either Rizzo or Camilla could fill for R2-D2. In which case, the bluff is still called because Gonzo is fine with having his arms pulled off.
Also, which bit is funnier: Darth Vader as a muppet trying to convince Luke that he's Luke's father, or Luke somehow guessing that Miss Piggy is his sister and everyone else not believing him until he points out that there aren't many women in the cast.
Following through on that bit, Mon Mothra would be Janice, which implicates the rest of Electric Mayhem as the Rebel Alliance. Clifford could do Admiral Akbar.
The obvious answer: They're saving the Muppet Option for the remakes of the Live Action series when they finish scraping the bottom of the current barrel...
Yep, when remakes and sequels/prequels are no longer massively profitable despite being dogshit, we'll finally get muppet remakes because god forbid they create original storylines...
Live action remakes get entire families going because of kids.
A Muppet movie won't unless families are fans.
Possible but I've never seen an episode of the Muppets in any house I've been in, but everyone I know has seen every Disney movie they're remaking. Including the kids.
Can attest. Never grew up with Muppets, never going to see any, new or old. Have watched many Disney movies out of nostalgia with my daughter, and a bunch of modern remakes because she wanted to see them. Can't say I hated any of them but the classics are still better.
Yah i guess muppets is a bit of a nostalgia thing, we would love it. But the current generation? I feel you kinda need to have grown up with muppets to know what they are about and why such a themed movie would be hilarious
Disneys problem these days with muppets is that they like doing the safe thing and muppets rely on the weirdness, so anything they do will fall flat. They would need to take abreak and later get some brave loony to take over the brand
Zixtank
Considering Disney's recent streak of "everything has to be PC and be åleasing to the lowest common denominator", I'd say they can just fuck off a cliff instead of ruining Muppets.
umyrinbrah
And the muppet he turns into is animal
PineappleIsDeliciousOnPizzaFightMe
Ryan Reynolds turns into Sweetums
supertigerlamp
Muppet Godfather
ChelVanin
coolbrood
As much as I truly adore this idea, I'm getting really tired of countless iterations on 'I'll never understand why they keep making highly profitable movies instead of this thing I like, which has proven to be way less profitable'
MaxximumB
Muppet and the Beast. I'd actually get off my arse and go to the cinema to watch that.
Bunhyung
Muppet Apocalypse Now. What? Oh, disney doesn't own that one?
TI99Kitty
That's okay, they can make it Muppet X-Men: Apocalypse. That's close enough, right?
jwillustrat
Muppet Dark Crystal!
LordNoKids
Muppet Human Centipede
gtotherizzle
"The Storyteller" but with more muppetsand with Disney movies....that would be dope
FermentTheRich3000
This is amazing. Do it as a series of movies for long stories and a half hour TV show for the short stuff.
gtotherizzle
But please tap the makers of the "Dr. Teeth" show not the people who made the horrible "Office" style show
leviaton
If they make a live action they can keep the rights to the story and images again
YourBiologicalStepDadUncleRob
Muppet Clockwork Orange
Geodoge
I nominate Henry Cavill as Gaston
HighlandPotatoe
Naa, he's the beast
Geodoge
That makes much more sense. I forgot the assignment halfway through my comment
shack95
Think they just bought the muppets to prevent anyone else from owning them.
joemac65
Muppet Hocus Pocus. Miss piggy as Winifred, Gonzo as Mary, Abby Cadabby as sarah. Fozzie bear as Billy the zombie. animal as Thackery Binx. Kermit as Max
Chereazi
I'd watch the hell out of that
KittensForDays
1,000%!!
TwiceK
Henry Cavill for beast.
SilentShift
He'd probably have a great time doing it, too
JoshuaFalken
Came here to say this
CardeasIV
And instead, we get MUFASA: THE LION KING prequel to a movie nobody liked
3Davideo
Oh, like my favorite response to "remake one movie, keep one human actor, rest are muppets" is Thor, keep Tom Hiddleston. Imagine his surprise when he finds out he's adopted!
pandaman1982
For me it's Muppets Sweeney Todd and the only human is Olivia Colman as Mrs Lovett, Gonzo as Todd. The flirting scenes would be legendary.
Stoneagedudeman
Lemme tell you. I'd watch the fuck out of Muppets Atlantis remake
JackalopeElope
I weirdly would not mind a Atlantis live action remake. All human characters and the few monsters and future tech was all pretty clean and easy to do with CGI. If the found something interesting to do, it could be cool. Plus:
etopsirhc
GratuaCuun
They make money -shrug- normies, parents with kids - families - they go to watch them. Like, in droves - Disney only does shit repeatedly if it makes money - that simple. They abandoned 2D animation in general for the same reason - there was more money in computer generated animation
CacklingOctopus
Serious question: What is a "normie" in this context?
GratuaCuun
People who don't spend all their time on YouTube and Imgur complaining about Disney not making what they want???
Pilgrymm
They can even reuse the song from the new muppet movie. "am I a maaaaaaaaan or a muppet? If I'm a muppet then I'm a very manly muppet"
SupernaturalReactions
All good options so far, but the greatest use of the muppets would be Jesus Christ Super Star.

- Kermit as Jesus obviously.
- Gonzo as Judas (with his chicken backup dancers).
- Miss Piggy as Mary Magdalene.
And my favourite: Fozzie Bear as King Herod.
"So You are the Christ.
"You're the great Jesus Christ, wacka wacka!"
zeacorzeppelin10
Muppet Avengers with Deadpool is the only one, not a Muppet and questioning his sanity the entire time.
Lazarillo
Deadpool really isn't that far off from a Muppet anyway.
Monkeynutsjoe
Yeah.... Deadpool would 100% not question it.
zeacorzeppelin10
I would bet it would show the puppeteers in a lot of shots
Sageypie
I mean, I'm bummed we didn't get more classic literary stories turned into muppet films. Feel like Muppet Moby Dick would be phenomenal. Or maybe Muppet Huckleberry Finn.
Ninjainslippers
Kermit and Fozzy floating down the Mississippi and Kermit keeps referring to him as (bleep) Jim.
Mikeiller
There's a BOOK Muppet Phantom of the Opera, but no actual movie to go along with it.
jimfalconer611
We’ll always have Wishbone…
CheckFlop
Sam would be a good Ahab.
Sageypie
OMG, yes.
"At hell's heart I stabeth thee, with Liberty. And Justice. FOR All."
CheckFlop
Kermit is obviously Ishmael but Sweetums as Queequeg.
PaperStSoapCompany
Muppet Star Wars
BythepowerofPlank
Muppet wars sounds hillarious
etopsirhc
damn you, you got it posted before me cause i was flushing out who would be what. lol
ChelVanin
I feel like that’s been done…
Tom40
Pigs in space?
onerousempire
There are mini episodes of it with the kid Muppets (Sesame Street)
ProppaGanda
@botdrawa Muppet star wars
BotDrawA
@CollinRubinstein Here's your drawing of a "Muppet star wars"
BotDrawA
@CollinRubinstein Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "Muppet star wars, playing a saxophone in a funky disco, photo"
OliverOtter
PIGS! IN! SPAAAACCCEEE!
gablestout
Kermit: Luke Skywalker. Miss Piggy: Princess Leia. Fozzie Bear: Han Solo. Gonzo: Chewbacca. Sam the Eagle: Obi Wan Kenobi. Dr. Bunsen Honeydew: C-3PO. Beaker: R2-D2. Statler: Darth Vader. Waldorf: Emperor Palpatine.
J3lek
Staler and Waldorf would both be Palpatine. And all they do is show up to heckle everyone; except they have, and regularly use, force lightning during the heckling.
NZSheeps
celestedrake
Yoda is only human actor?
5m4llP0X
Mark Hamill.
celestedrake
Yes.
onerousempire
Fozzie is Chewie for sure!
Shadowroxas870
Wakka wakka
amyrose
Gonzo is Han Solo and Chewie is Camilla
Syrioforel79
Statler and Waldorf as Vader and Palps would be worth the price of admission alone.
5m4llP0X
Just to hear them heckle the rebels.
DonkeyGoat
Hugh Jackman
jimfalconer611
Agree a huge yak man would be an interesting muppet but we’re talking about human actors here
44gallons
When the curse is lifted the Beast should transform into Sweetums
newsguycraigevans
sirava
Muppet Princess Bride
Syrioforel79
Would watch
n0gal
That would be inconceivable
QuesoRaSoRa
“As you Meep…”
nachosyndicate
This is the only acceptable remake.
Lepercake
Muppet Event Horizon
whitefoxkei
I saw a mock up of a poster for this years ago and it is the one movie I have wanted ever since.
bardman135
"There's a shortage of perfect pork in this world. It'd be a pity to damage yours"-The Dread Pirate Kermit
prilldomon
Clockworkdancerobot
"Good Night Kermit, Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely Fry you in the morning."
WynnCreek
"Ok Miss Piggy"
DemSumBigAssRidges
Meepmeep! Meep meep meep Meepmeepmeep Meepmeepmee. Meep meep meep meep meep. Meepmeep meep meep!
Aurentis
I can't fault the introduction, but may I suggest that he would be better cast as the priest who says "Mawwiage" or possibly Miracle Max?
EmberDarkHeart
Why is that still easy to understand lol
WalkGood
Can we get at least a Muppet Fezzik that looks like Andre?
OliverClothesoff70
That would have to be Sweetums…
WalkGood
OK. So maybe he has an Andre tshirt or coffee mug?
JustBoone
The ONLY remake of that movie I would accept.
MBTerrorKitten
I'll accept all remakes. The princess bride as a snl skit movie. Dark and gritty the princess bride. Michael Bay's the princess bride. Wes Anderson's the princess bride. The cohen brother's the princess bride. The princess bride the musical. Princess Bride 2 electric boogaloo. A princess bride isekai. Princess Bride in space. News radio princess bride. A radio play princess bride. A princess bride performed by dogs and cats. A princess bride with no people at all.
Crowlands
I would accept one other version: Get the original actor for the kid to play the grandfather.
During all scenes of the story, just use the original footage, possibly edited to fit modern visual/audio quality standards.
That's it. Just have the exact same story, told by the kid from the first, to his grandson.
BarnegatLight
Princess Bride original cast 2021 table read: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfEswKMqe4c
BarnegatLight
Princess Bride Home Movie, with lots of actors, made during during lockdown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29s1yU3nGkQ
PriestofThor
The best thing to come out of 2020 and lockdown.
mikeatike
Muppet Princess Bride but Wallace Shawn is not recast.
sirava
As much as I love Wallace Shawn the one human has to be Prince Humperdinck.
TorrentialUpPour
I agree that Humperdink must be human, but there are always several human cast members in every muppet movie.
mikeatike
As long as no two human cast members share a scene.
TorrentialUpPour
Not true at all; Christmas Carol and Treasure Island both have scenes with *just* humans.
sirava
True enough
badbmc
Actually, that's a really good idea. Go on, who plays what rolls?
TorrentialUpPour
A *surprisingly* realistic looking Andre the Giant muppet.
PirateArrrgument
ROUS's are played by live humans.
whitefoxkei
Rizzo and his cousins
PirateArrrgument
No, Rizzo and his cousins are working the exploding gas equipment in the swamp and complaining about scabs taking their ROUS parts.
PaleChapter
"AS YOU WISH! AS YOU WISH!" *cacophonous drum solo*
whitefoxkei
Wesley: Kermit, Buttercup: Miss Piggy, Inigo: Gonzo, Fezik: Sweetums, Vezzini: Pepe, Miracle Max: Bunsen (Beaker will play himself, replacing the wife), Priest: Swedish Chef, The Albino: Animal covered in flour, Count Rugen: Fozzie (Inigo's looking for a bear. Would make a funny bit when he asks Roberts about it). Humperdink would be a human actor. The grandson could be... idk Walter? Grandpa could be Sam. And of course Statler and Woldorf appear at random to heckle.
DrewK98
Yes to Animal as The Albino. And when he clears his throat his voice is Samuel L Jackson.
whitefoxkei
YES! THIS!
StevieTheAussie
Honestly I feel like having Miss Piggy as Buttercup, Carey Elwes still as Wesley and Kermit as Humperdinck would be a good setup.
smashpro1
My only suggestion is Cary Elwes as the grandfather.
TunnelRat13
Fozzy as Fezzik. Fezzik is a comedian. And Fozzy is one of the largest Muppets. And maybe I would like to see Fozzy get choked out >.>
StevieTheAussie
Roles*
encaitar
Kermit: Wesley.... Miss Piggy: ButterCup..... Grover: Inigo...... Snuffleupagus: Fezzik..... Rizzo the Rat: Vezzini..... Grandfather: Big Bird..... Grandson: Elmo..... Gonzo: Prince Humperdink.... Rowlf: Count Rugen...... Beaker: The Albino.... Fill in the others...
BagOfPrayers
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Humperdink should be played by the only human in the cast, with his affections for Buttercup (Piggy) played completely straight. Your other picks are great though.
Also, Gonzo for Miracle Max
badbmc
Ok these are some amazingly good ideas. Except of course Fezzik. Absolutely Sweetums. I'd like to suggest one other change though. Instead of having a grandfather reading a bedtime story how about a couple sitting on a couch in front of a fireplace telling a story to a grandchild. The grandparents would be Cary Elwes and Robin Wright. Every once in a while the scene cuts back to the grandparents and Robin is killing herself laughing and says "I don't remember the story going like that".
GuyleDoucheFieldReporter
Fezzik has to be played by Sweetums. I will not accept anyone else.
encaitar
You're 100% correct here. No idea why he didn't come to mind, but he's a perfect Fezzik.
akrabbim
Thank you. I came here to post just that.
VictusVonGuyver
I was thinking the same.
NZSheeps
affectatious
Grover is from Sesame Street. Does he still count? Anyway, I think Zoot or Floyd Pepper should play Inigo. (Members of Dr Teeth’s electric mayhem band)
CheeseDanish444
There's a few sesame street chars there. Starting from encaitar and your suggestions, I'd say Bobo the bear as Fezzik, Sam Eagle as the grandfather, Robin as the grandson... I'd also pick someone else as Rugen... Maybe put Gonzo there? Or have Scooter play a villain. Link Hogthrob for Humperdink (the captain from pigs in space). Fozzie as Miracle Max, maybe Janice as Valerie, or Gonzo and Camilla the chicken for a goofier take on the two. Pepe would make an entertaining Inigo as well.
euphxenos
Who do you cast for Miracle Max? The Swedish Chef?
Zeterai
I would accept Dr. Teeth.
BagOfPrayers
No, Swedish Chef is the priest that officiates the wedding
whitefoxkei
Max and his wife would instead be Bunsen and Beaker. Bunsen would be called Miracle Max, but Beaker would play himself.
Cycocidal
Same thoughts
OlaphOfTheNorth
You replace miracle max and his wife with statler and waldorf
etopsirhc
now this one might be controversial but... muppet starwars (original trilogy).
gonzo would be luke, kermit would be han, christopher lee would be yoda, the eagle guy would be vader, chewbacca would be the rock (but talking normaly and just no one but han understands him) bert and ernie would be the c3p0 and r2, fozzy would be obi-wan, animal would be jubba and meep his pet, beaker would be boba, idk who to put as the 2 that usualy sit in the balcony, but they would need to be in it as well...
TI99Kitty
Statler and Waldorf. But have them as R2-D2 and C-3P0, because the rights to Bert and Ernie (and the other Sesame Street characters) are held by CTW, IIRC.
foolycharged
And they could repeatedly ask luke skywalker/mark hamil who his tailor is, they love that outfit. And there could be gargling gershwin!
LiterallyAWizard
They still get the balcony, but the balcony changes with the set. So it looks carved from sandstone on Tattooine, and made of metal on the Death Etar, etc.
etopsirhc
yeah, keeping them out of the main show and off to the side making jokes is just too much of what they're meant for.
Monkeynutsjoe
I could support this, but only if Hayden played Vader
Friendlyhedgehog
If by Christopher Lee, you mean the actor who played Saruman and Count Dooku, that gentleman is dead. Unless there's a muppet with that name?
etopsirhc
nope, it was him, i'm just living under a rock.
FermentTheRich3000
Beaker as chewy
etopsirhc
while that fits nicely, with the changes mentioned above about swedish chef being in charge of storm trooper chickens, and the scene setup further into that convo, i simply cant change chewy from being the rock.
Elyeli
Bert and Ernie are Sesame street characters, not muppets.
etopsirhc
when i looked up muppets the wiki showed both on them on the list.
LiterallyAWizard
Also, the Swedish Chef leading a batallion of chickens as Stormtroopers
etopsirhc
YES! maybe even have all the stormtroopers on Endor be chickens. ( cause the chicken walkers, eh ) XD
LiterallyAWizard
Swedish Chef is operating an AT-ST when there's suddenly the sound of a tin can being peeled open, and The Rock as Chewbacca drops in from above and begins wrestling him to the ground while he makes panicked Swedish Chef noises
etopsirhc
Dagordae
That would be rather difficult considering Lee is dead.
etopsirhc
shit, when did that happen!? fine, i guess samuel l jackson will have to do.
Alistairetheblu
June 7, 2015
etopsirhc
well fuck, i need to look into selling this rock and moving into a log or something.
BrockEffingSamson
I never understand when someone does a Muppet cast and doesn't put Kermit in the "relatable everyman" slot. Like...maaaaybe if you put Scooter or Robin in there, but Gonzo? No.
etopsirhc
well you cant put him as luke, cause then the incest thing gets worse, cause you know piggy wouldnt care. plus gonzo is the right level of stupid to point a light saber straight at his face early on.
BrockEffingSamson
Muppet movies have a proud tradition of Gonzo and Rizzo being two goofy side characters doing comic relief on the side while driving the story. With apologies, that is clearly Threepio and Artoo, respectively, in this situation.
etopsirhc
that does fix the r2 3p0 situation someone mentioned about bert and ernie being owned bu another group.
LudoRex
I am with BrockEffingSamson when it comes to Gonzo. And it's "Sam the Eagle."
SmeesNotVeryGoodTwin
We're also just skipping over the trend that Muppet adaptations have humans for the main character, with Gonzo typically getting second billing, and Kermit and Piggy doing the side character love story. So by that formula, you'd have Sebastian Stan as Luke (as the prophecy foretold), Gonzo as Obi-Wan, and then yeah, Kermit as Han so that he can get Miss Piggy in the end. But he'd have to dig deep into his Wilkins coffee days to be that much of a scoundrel.
etopsirhc
i was gonna go with trying to think up a diffrent muppet for the main character but after you brought that up i realized having someone be the child of a muppet is so much funnier.
kermit not being able to be a scoundrel would be part a running joke. like in the scene where han shot first greedo tries to fire but has the safety on and cant, so kermit helps him with it and accidentally shoots him while he's fixing the gun for him.
SmeesNotVeryGoodTwin
Oh, I guess I ended up discarding my follow up comment about Fozzie as Chewbacca because he's usually close to Kermit (and lampshading The Muppet Movie while they're in the cockpit of the Millennium Chicken), and there would have to be a whole bit with them trying to play up Fozzie as a credible threat. It peaks with the chess scene with Statler and Waldorf roasting Fozzie instead of going the "Let the bear win" route.
SmeesNotVeryGoodTwin
Now that I think about it, maybe Gonzo would fit better as C-3PO because he can take himself somewhat seriously while still being comic relief, and either Rizzo or Camilla could fill for R2-D2. In which case, the bluff is still called because Gonzo is fine with having his arms pulled off.
SmeesNotVeryGoodTwin
Also, which bit is funnier: Darth Vader as a muppet trying to convince Luke that he's Luke's father, or Luke somehow guessing that Miss Piggy is his sister and everyone else not believing him until he points out that there aren't many women in the cast.
SmeesNotVeryGoodTwin
Following through on that bit, Mon Mothra would be Janice, which implicates the rest of Electric Mayhem as the Rebel Alliance. Clifford could do Admiral Akbar.
realrealluckless
The obvious answer: They're saving the Muppet Option for the remakes of the Live Action series when they finish scraping the bottom of the current barrel...
ReleaseTheBeeees
They aren't scraping. They're renewing their copyright claims on the IPs
SoupCanMan
The even more obvious answer: the Jim Davis company demands higher wages/costs to operate than randomly farming out CG work for 3 month contracts.
Ninjainslippers
Yep, when remakes and sequels/prequels are no longer massively profitable despite being dogshit, we'll finally get muppet remakes because god forbid they create original storylines...
leshawk
Actual obvious answer:
Live action remakes get entire families going because of kids.
A Muppet movie won't unless families are fans.
Possible but I've never seen an episode of the Muppets in any house I've been in, but everyone I know has seen every Disney movie they're remaking. Including the kids.
retrogood
Can attest. Never grew up with Muppets, never going to see any, new or old. Have watched many Disney movies out of nostalgia with my daughter, and a bunch of modern remakes because she wanted to see them. Can't say I hated any of them but the classics are still better.
Z0op
Yah i guess muppets is a bit of a nostalgia thing, we would love it. But the current generation? I feel you kinda need to have grown up with muppets to know what they are about and why such a themed movie would be hilarious
skinkabamba
Disneys problem these days with muppets is that they like doing the safe thing and muppets rely on the weirdness, so anything they do will fall flat.
They would need to take abreak and later get some brave loony to take over the brand