Jun 11, 2016 5:46 PM
TheBaconPope
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yavamosportuputahamburgesa
i mean... both statements are valid...
goldenspider666
The bottom is what I was trying to say a couple days ago
JapaneseStudentTadashii
Why are people saying they agree with both? Why should we have to wait to teach our kids to respect other people's lifestyles?
TheRealFlester
Both of them are right, imo
BurnsDream
TIL gay is a religion
BLawww
Thank god that child isn't wearing crocs. For a moment I thought the kid was. That would've been the real tragedy.
thegreatninjaman
how about let people raise their children however they want?
ZachPutland
"believing in gay marriage" what
leejaem1
they're both right
LucasTigy
But... i love shrimp :c
Matoro342
Dont equate something to something shitty to say its better
mynamesnotrobyn
This is dumb.
jackbos
Churches are a moral code. Gay Pride rallies are mostly naked people with leather and disturbing piercings. Don't take a kid to Pride.
[deleted]
That gif is...terrifying
DoctorChronic
Hummi
What if we're believers of both of these ideas? Not everything is black and white you silly billies.
Why both. What's wrong with teaching kids to respect the lifestyles of others? I thought we already did that
Lambo44
Good thing I'm allergic to shrimp
NordicJew
nasreal
High quality poles for sale! Ten foot and above!! Really good quality, hardwood, handcarved!
IWearGreyontheOutside
Gay extremists throw glitter, religious extremists are responsible for a huge portion of the worlds evil. I don't see the equivalence.
potatoardvarkhybrid
I really hate seeing children browsing imgur
wheresmymoneydenny
I hate when kids are at home getting raised; their parents prob don't have the same ideals as I do and that makes me upset. (facepalm)
Somnophobe
I just really hate seeing children.
thesplashingblumpkins
Children should be seen but not heard
elleyea
hear hear
hamper10
I just really hate seeing anybody.
adolfsrevenge
I Absolutely hate kids. Sue me.
ThikLikeOatmeal
I really hate children.
MarkWhoGivesaFukFrom93Tv
You know what? No kids for anybody.
ArthurRatcliffe
Is that eating shrimp thing real?
cardboardisdelicious
Maybe for Jews? I'm not sure.. Not for Christians though, although militant atheists will tell you otherwise.
The only arguments christian have against gays come from portions of the old testament that also forbid things like eating shellfish, so yes
Though they do like to pick and choose, so gays are bad, but shrimp are delicious and marrying non virgin women is ok. Basic hypocrisy.
If you get your information about Christianity from reddit and imgur then yeah, but if you actually look into these things properly its (1)
Like that. (2)
SirFormidio
Most children are taken to churches because the adults feel a need to attend and can't leave the kids behind. They don't need to understand.
WallyWorldtoo
What's Sunday school ,but being forced to, they just don.
If the parents believe their religion is the absolute truth then they're not going to raise their kids agnostic until 18 as well..
Most children, especially with the world we have now, will question their faith at some point.
Pride Parades, however, are completely optional. People go to them because they're giant parties. And they are deffo's not for kids.
JudgeMentalCat
Also- People go to Pride to celebrate victories in Civil Rights for LGBT people, to celebrate their identities, etc. Not because they're
parties. Popular misconception
They're not parties? Could've foold me.
I's not a party for the sake of partying- it's a celebration of identity, of social progress, of civil rights gained, etc
Have you ever attended one? I went to plenty as a kid, and the only thing they led me to do is to not be judgemental of LGBT people
Pride parades are probably the reason some people don't take homosexuality seriously .. They can be quite obscene, not representative of (1)
The gay community (2)
Yes, totally. The reason people murder queer people and think they don't deserve human rights is Pride parades. 0 discrimination existed
There are some events that aren't kid friendly, but that kind is PLENTY open about what happens at them
If it's just a Pride parade in an open street, then it's usually fine. It gives kids some exposure to people who aren't the same, teaches
them to be accepting of others, etc.
I did. I don't think I've ever been quite so disgusted to be gay, to have that be my representation to the general public.
That's not your "representation" or some such shit. It's a celebration of identity. And honestly respectability politics suck ass dude
It's all built on this idea that oppressors will stop hating us if we behave a certain way, as if that EVER worked
CamaHertose
I believe children shouldn't be brought up up in any political or religious ideal. They should wait until they're old enough to understand.
Cambino
You can't tell me that I can't raise my kids as nazis. And that's kind of strange.
Firsthope
My daughter is ten and we are just starting to talk about religion. Spent time with leaders from several religions so far so she can learn.
tatterofmime
I believe children shouldn't be brought up learning any language. They should wait until they are old enough to choose.
[/jk]
Sparks1729
That's a little absurd and unrealistic
Lobuttomize
If you believe a religion, there are often punishments if the kid would happen to die and not be baptized or something similar
RhymeRuin
I'd say that it's good to talk about what others believe and why, and the overall outcomes of various forms of belief, thereby allowing 1/2
2/2 The child to make an informed choice about what they choose to believe. Rather that not really having knowledge of any belief system...
Like how we shouldn't teach kids to not be racist and respect other people?
kraftmegaroni
I agree with allowing them to make their own decisions, but they should be educated thoroughly as they grow.
highstream
I believe it is the responsibility of parents to teach their children good morals but allow them to make their own decisions.
GingerSwan
How my dad raised me.
lily10110
My mom did this. I wasn't raised as a Christian or in church, I made that decision on my own. Glad she raised me that way, too.
cunttliflower
I was raised in church tiI was old enough to stay home then my mom sat me down and let me make the decision to continue or not. I stopped.
ThottieMinerva
I hear of people who even though they were brought up religious or a certain political affiliation changing their views to something else.
ThaiMaiShu
I don't think it's that uncommon
JoshLeijs
That's the point, who you are raised only goes so far if you don't agree with it at some base level
bobcat1721
Wait what?! People can develop their own personal beliefs even if their parents raised them differently?!!?!
JustAFellaThatLikesDogs
the difference is walking pride is choosing a belief for the child but going to church is teaching the child and showing it a belief that (1
Hopefully one day it will accept on its own (2
EconomyWarf
And you can speak for every religious family because?
i didnt say i can, i said thats what happens when you take your child to church
"but going to church is teaching the child and showing it a belief". Some families push it on their kids believe it or not.
5primecap
Both are choosing a belief for your child, and i don't have a problem with that. Parents have a certain moral framework they think is best 1
and since they love their children they want them to be as moral and good as possible. Obviously parents can have damaging beliefs, but 2
that doesn't mean kids are always better at making decisions. We don't let them vote or make medical decisions for a reason. 3
See, indoctrination is totally OK as long as I agree with the message!
making your child wear rainbow clothes with a rainbow flag in a gay pride rally is "you believe in gay pride" but taking a child to (1/2)
church is "i believe in christianity and i want you to as well"
"My parents made damn sure I believed the same thing as them, and you will too" vs "look at the clothes I obviously bought, being the adult"
PatoBlanco
Ever seen a pride day OP? They ain't for kids
YanYoon
The parades are rather tame, it's the drag shows.
tcdero
While that may be true, that wasn't even the tumblr poster's point as to why they disliked seeing children there.
DaCrazyBeggar
gay rally =/= pride day
kapp70
You ever seen a snake handler church? Come to louisville Kentucky and I can take you to one.
shatter3ddr3ams
As an LGBT person, I really resent that kind of rally. I feel like those things really set us back and reaffirm often false stereotypes.
DeviledAvacado
You read the bible? That ain't for kids neither.
geiokami
Yeah and some priests aren't for children.
LateNightBunnyParty
OKC Pride is plenty family friendly. I march as an ally every year. Last year, my daughters both made the decision to walk with us, too.
judgemasterven
I walked in the OKC pride one year holding the Cox Communications banner - we gave out candy and shirts and it was a fun thing.
I think Cox was right in front of or right behind us either last year or the year before. We were the ones with the Flying Spaghetti Monster
It's been a couple years, I'm in Florida now. We were behind the newly unveiled Sheriff's car.
CitizenDickbag
The vast majority of Pride Parades are tame affairs.
Sunn
Ever listened a preaching? They ain't for kids
TechnicallyRight
Ever been to church? They spew stuff that ain't for children.
Then again, church says be good to each other, then again, lgbt people want everyone to be treated equally. so you know.... meh?
girladventurer
okay but what about the crusades
Delyruin
Deus Vult!
Fullm3talDav3
Deus vult
KinkExpert
Have you ever read the bible? It really ain't for kids.
A fair bit , bit too advanced for kids tbh
There are plenty that are family friendly. I've gone to my hometown's Pride parade since I was 5, as long as you stay out of the bars it's
perfectly fine. Some of the stuff is weird, like the drag queens and penis shaped hats, but it's not kid innapropriate. It's not as if
seeing a dude in a dress is going to scar a kid for life. Honestly it's better for a kid to see that shit when they're young so they don't
grow up to be judgemental wankers of people who aren't the exact same as them. It's not like anyone's going to flash your 5 year old
penis shaped hats ...family friendly... remind me not to go to your family gatherings.
Oh jesus christ half of all kids have one attached to their body
Do you know what a stupid idea it is for a kid to not understand basic anatomy by the time they're a teen?
Saberslayer1738
That's very true, fulsome street fair I saw a slow stroke in broad daylight
neverknowsbest138
... Folsom street fair is a kink and fetish event, not a pride parade.
Sorry I wouldn't know, I just wanted to say that
thatdamndonut
A... slow stroke?
Walking while slowly stroking his half hard cock
DontLoseYourWay
Huh... neat.
Haha not really. But walking and jerking, I really had never thought of that as a possibility
CorneliusCornwall
No you didn't, that's a Dan Cummins joke. Or you did and he was there too
Yay!!! Someone figured it out. I was wondering how long until someone would recognize it, I know I messed it up a little
As soon as I read slow stroke I was like, OBJECTION!
Haha I'm glad people know that joke???? ????
yavamosportuputahamburgesa
i mean... both statements are valid...
goldenspider666
The bottom is what I was trying to say a couple days ago
JapaneseStudentTadashii
Why are people saying they agree with both? Why should we have to wait to teach our kids to respect other people's lifestyles?
TheRealFlester
Both of them are right, imo
BurnsDream
TIL gay is a religion
BLawww
Thank god that child isn't wearing crocs. For a moment I thought the kid was. That would've been the real tragedy.
thegreatninjaman
how about let people raise their children however they want?
ZachPutland
"believing in gay marriage" what
leejaem1
they're both right
LucasTigy
But... i love shrimp :c
Matoro342
Dont equate something to something shitty to say its better
mynamesnotrobyn
This is dumb.
jackbos
Churches are a moral code. Gay Pride rallies are mostly naked people with leather and disturbing piercings. Don't take a kid to Pride.
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[deleted]
TheBaconPope
That gif is...terrifying
DoctorChronic
Hummi
What if we're believers of both of these ideas? Not everything is black and white you silly billies.
JapaneseStudentTadashii
Why both. What's wrong with teaching kids to respect the lifestyles of others? I thought we already did that
Lambo44
Good thing I'm allergic to shrimp
NordicJew
nasreal
High quality poles for sale! Ten foot and above!! Really good quality, hardwood, handcarved!
IWearGreyontheOutside
Gay extremists throw glitter, religious extremists are responsible for a huge portion of the worlds evil. I don't see the equivalence.
potatoardvarkhybrid
I really hate seeing children browsing imgur
wheresmymoneydenny
I hate when kids are at home getting raised; their parents prob don't have the same ideals as I do and that makes me upset. (facepalm)
Somnophobe
I just really hate seeing children.
thesplashingblumpkins
Children should be seen but not heard
elleyea
hear hear
hamper10
I just really hate seeing anybody.
adolfsrevenge
I Absolutely hate kids. Sue me.
ThikLikeOatmeal
I really hate children.
MarkWhoGivesaFukFrom93Tv
You know what? No kids for anybody.
ArthurRatcliffe
Is that eating shrimp thing real?
cardboardisdelicious
Maybe for Jews? I'm not sure.. Not for Christians though, although militant atheists will tell you otherwise.
IWearGreyontheOutside
The only arguments christian have against gays come from portions of the old testament that also forbid things like eating shellfish, so yes
IWearGreyontheOutside
Though they do like to pick and choose, so gays are bad, but shrimp are delicious and marrying non virgin women is ok. Basic hypocrisy.
cardboardisdelicious
If you get your information about Christianity from reddit and imgur then yeah, but if you actually look into these things properly its (1)
cardboardisdelicious
Like that. (2)
SirFormidio
Most children are taken to churches because the adults feel a need to attend and can't leave the kids behind. They don't need to understand.
WallyWorldtoo
What's Sunday school ,but being forced to, they just don.
cardboardisdelicious
If the parents believe their religion is the absolute truth then they're not going to raise their kids agnostic until 18 as well..
SirFormidio
Most children, especially with the world we have now, will question their faith at some point.
SirFormidio
Pride Parades, however, are completely optional. People go to them because they're giant parties. And they are deffo's not for kids.
JudgeMentalCat
Also- People go to Pride to celebrate victories in Civil Rights for LGBT people, to celebrate their identities, etc. Not because they're
JudgeMentalCat
parties. Popular misconception
SirFormidio
They're not parties? Could've foold me.
JudgeMentalCat
I's not a party for the sake of partying- it's a celebration of identity, of social progress, of civil rights gained, etc
JudgeMentalCat
Have you ever attended one? I went to plenty as a kid, and the only thing they led me to do is to not be judgemental of LGBT people
cardboardisdelicious
Pride parades are probably the reason some people don't take homosexuality seriously .. They can be quite obscene, not representative of (1)
cardboardisdelicious
The gay community (2)
JudgeMentalCat
Yes, totally. The reason people murder queer people and think they don't deserve human rights is Pride parades. 0 discrimination existed
JudgeMentalCat
There are some events that aren't kid friendly, but that kind is PLENTY open about what happens at them
JudgeMentalCat
If it's just a Pride parade in an open street, then it's usually fine. It gives kids some exposure to people who aren't the same, teaches
JudgeMentalCat
them to be accepting of others, etc.
SirFormidio
I did. I don't think I've ever been quite so disgusted to be gay, to have that be my representation to the general public.
JudgeMentalCat
That's not your "representation" or some such shit. It's a celebration of identity. And honestly respectability politics suck ass dude
JudgeMentalCat
It's all built on this idea that oppressors will stop hating us if we behave a certain way, as if that EVER worked
CamaHertose
I believe children shouldn't be brought up up in any political or religious ideal. They should wait until they're old enough to understand.
Cambino
You can't tell me that I can't raise my kids as nazis. And that's kind of strange.
Firsthope
My daughter is ten and we are just starting to talk about religion. Spent time with leaders from several religions so far so she can learn.
tatterofmime
I believe children shouldn't be brought up learning any language. They should wait until they are old enough to choose.
tatterofmime
[/jk]
Sparks1729
That's a little absurd and unrealistic
Lobuttomize
If you believe a religion, there are often punishments if the kid would happen to die and not be baptized or something similar
RhymeRuin
I'd say that it's good to talk about what others believe and why, and the overall outcomes of various forms of belief, thereby allowing 1/2
RhymeRuin
2/2 The child to make an informed choice about what they choose to believe. Rather that not really having knowledge of any belief system...
JapaneseStudentTadashii
Like how we shouldn't teach kids to not be racist and respect other people?
kraftmegaroni
I agree with allowing them to make their own decisions, but they should be educated thoroughly as they grow.
highstream
I believe it is the responsibility of parents to teach their children good morals but allow them to make their own decisions.
GingerSwan
How my dad raised me.
lily10110
My mom did this. I wasn't raised as a Christian or in church, I made that decision on my own. Glad she raised me that way, too.
cunttliflower
I was raised in church tiI was old enough to stay home then my mom sat me down and let me make the decision to continue or not. I stopped.
ThottieMinerva
I hear of people who even though they were brought up religious or a certain political affiliation changing their views to something else.
ThaiMaiShu
I don't think it's that uncommon
JoshLeijs
That's the point, who you are raised only goes so far if you don't agree with it at some base level
bobcat1721
Wait what?! People can develop their own personal beliefs even if their parents raised them differently?!!?!
JustAFellaThatLikesDogs
the difference is walking pride is choosing a belief for the child but going to church is teaching the child and showing it a belief that (1
JustAFellaThatLikesDogs
Hopefully one day it will accept on its own (2
EconomyWarf
And you can speak for every religious family because?
JustAFellaThatLikesDogs
i didnt say i can, i said thats what happens when you take your child to church
EconomyWarf
"but going to church is teaching the child and showing it a belief". Some families push it on their kids believe it or not.
5primecap
Both are choosing a belief for your child, and i don't have a problem with that. Parents have a certain moral framework they think is best 1
5primecap
and since they love their children they want them to be as moral and good as possible. Obviously parents can have damaging beliefs, but 2
5primecap
that doesn't mean kids are always better at making decisions. We don't let them vote or make medical decisions for a reason. 3
IWearGreyontheOutside
See, indoctrination is totally OK as long as I agree with the message!
JustAFellaThatLikesDogs
making your child wear rainbow clothes with a rainbow flag in a gay pride rally is "you believe in gay pride" but taking a child to (1/2)
JustAFellaThatLikesDogs
church is "i believe in christianity and i want you to as well"
IWearGreyontheOutside
"My parents made damn sure I believed the same thing as them, and you will too" vs "look at the clothes I obviously bought, being the adult"
PatoBlanco
Ever seen a pride day OP? They ain't for kids
YanYoon
The parades are rather tame, it's the drag shows.
tcdero
While that may be true, that wasn't even the tumblr poster's point as to why they disliked seeing children there.
DaCrazyBeggar
gay rally =/= pride day
kapp70
You ever seen a snake handler church? Come to louisville Kentucky and I can take you to one.
shatter3ddr3ams
As an LGBT person, I really resent that kind of rally. I feel like those things really set us back and reaffirm often false stereotypes.
DeviledAvacado
You read the bible? That ain't for kids neither.
geiokami
Yeah and some priests aren't for children.
LateNightBunnyParty
OKC Pride is plenty family friendly. I march as an ally every year. Last year, my daughters both made the decision to walk with us, too.
judgemasterven
I walked in the OKC pride one year holding the Cox Communications banner - we gave out candy and shirts and it was a fun thing.
LateNightBunnyParty
I think Cox was right in front of or right behind us either last year or the year before. We were the ones with the Flying Spaghetti Monster
judgemasterven
It's been a couple years, I'm in Florida now. We were behind the newly unveiled Sheriff's car.
CitizenDickbag
The vast majority of Pride Parades are tame affairs.
Sunn
Ever listened a preaching? They ain't for kids
TechnicallyRight
Ever been to church? They spew stuff that ain't for children.
TechnicallyRight
Then again, church says be good to each other, then again, lgbt people want everyone to be treated equally. so you know.... meh?
girladventurer
okay but what about the crusades
Delyruin
Deus Vult!
Fullm3talDav3
PatoBlanco
Deus vult
KinkExpert
Have you ever read the bible? It really ain't for kids.
PatoBlanco
A fair bit , bit too advanced for kids tbh
JudgeMentalCat
There are plenty that are family friendly. I've gone to my hometown's Pride parade since I was 5, as long as you stay out of the bars it's
JudgeMentalCat
perfectly fine. Some of the stuff is weird, like the drag queens and penis shaped hats, but it's not kid innapropriate. It's not as if
JudgeMentalCat
seeing a dude in a dress is going to scar a kid for life. Honestly it's better for a kid to see that shit when they're young so they don't
JudgeMentalCat
grow up to be judgemental wankers of people who aren't the exact same as them. It's not like anyone's going to flash your 5 year old
tatterofmime
penis shaped hats ...family friendly... remind me not to go to your family gatherings.
JudgeMentalCat
Oh jesus christ half of all kids have one attached to their body
JudgeMentalCat
Do you know what a stupid idea it is for a kid to not understand basic anatomy by the time they're a teen?
Saberslayer1738
That's very true, fulsome street fair I saw a slow stroke in broad daylight
neverknowsbest138
... Folsom street fair is a kink and fetish event, not a pride parade.
Saberslayer1738
Sorry I wouldn't know, I just wanted to say that
thatdamndonut
A... slow stroke?
Saberslayer1738
Walking while slowly stroking his half hard cock
DontLoseYourWay
Huh... neat.
Saberslayer1738
Haha not really. But walking and jerking, I really had never thought of that as a possibility
CorneliusCornwall
No you didn't, that's a Dan Cummins joke. Or you did and he was there too
Saberslayer1738
Yay!!! Someone figured it out. I was wondering how long until someone would recognize it, I know I messed it up a little
CorneliusCornwall
As soon as I read slow stroke I was like, OBJECTION!
Saberslayer1738
Haha I'm glad people know that joke???? ????