Sep 26, 2016 1:50 AM
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HiImNickOk
My mortal mind cannot comprehend such exquisite topics out of the realm of possible thought and understanding
TheRealData
It's called a point, not a dot. Dots exist in 2 dimensions. Points have zero dimensions.
RememberTheC4nt
As a timelord I can verify that
HorseGirlErection
Remember, like OP said, this is a completely bogus explanation of dimensions meant only to introduce you to the idea of higher dimensions.
trenthian
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Ultrafire3
But can I find my daughter in a space bookshelf?
JoleneJoleneJoleneJoleeene
yes.
joas329
WarPatron
The fourth dimension cannot be considered time. It is orthogonal to the other three axes.
Jetmanfungo
... I like turtles.
simianruler
This isn't how most scientists view the 4th dimension. We are also incapable of perceiving anything less than two dimensions.
YoSoyMilk
IHaveThePerfectPuzzleForYou
Riiiiiiight.
ifitseasytakeittwice
http://royayersproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/the-5th-dimension-stoned-soul-picnic-soul-city-621x618.jpg
baykon89
LEEEEEEEEEEEET THE SUN SHINE LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET THE SUN SHINE IN
BuyMeTacoBell
And the 5th dimension is op's mom.
ChloeRed
I thought of red dwarf.. "what's the 5th dimension?" "Didn't they get to number 4 with 'baby I want your love thing'?" :)
PsyborC
Waaay to heavy for a monday morning!
monczkam
Reading this reminds me of the metaphysics classes I took. Lot of interesting views and discussions.
01010111011001010110110001100011011011110110110101100101
More like mega-gaysics
rossimus
Everything in the universe is, or isn't, a potato. Discuss.
4cqker
I firmly disagree. The 4th dimension should be space shared by space; things in the same place. It's dumbed down by calling it time
AuroraNora33
Time is a* dimension. Not necessarily the 4th
kanashimi444
Time is not a spatial dimension.
dietderpsy
I thought curved space was the time dimension?
No. Time is not in any way a spatial dimension.
IPunchedASandwich
By giving me something more complicated than the 4th dimension, you helped me understand the 4th dimension
IfYouCheckMyCommentsYouWillNoticeImNotAFunnyGuy
I see what you did there.
Notareptilian
Yes, but what does this have to do with the 3D glasses in movies?
TheEgolessEgotist
Movies are 4D pictures.
IGetItFrenchClass
Oh cool, somebody made CliffsNotes for Flatland.
FuturePerfectTense
GreenAce92
That automatic pistol with a tripod
vonmoony
evorgsumaf
anodoin
I've seen the video you're referencing and no that's not really how we think it works.
Slisher
Sauce?
https://youtu.be/Jkxie">6WuA">https://youtu.be/JkxieS-6WuA and https://youtu.be/ySBaYMESb8o
Thank you!
ChickenChickenBurningBright
Well, this went from informative to stupid really damn fast.
Maniacxxl
Incomprehensible
ImJustADinosaur
Inconceivable
baroncognito
I have issues with calling a point "pure information."
As well you should. It was a harbinger of bad things to come.
Corrodias
A "point" in 0 dimensions, no less. It's more like "no information".
squallau
6-dimensions beyond human comprehension? Pfft. int[, , , , ,] array1 = new int[5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5]; Done.
FrogBomb
In college, I took a topology class for my math major. After about the first couple of weeks, we were already on infinite dimensions.
sauerteig
When trying to serialize this, the Visual Studio Designer will be like
It's perfectly cromulent C#
Compiles fine, but causes RT exception in designer. Jagged arrays wont though. However, details...
imnotgoodatpuns
What about the dimensions of color or temperature? A dimension is nothing more than an arbitrary declaration of measuring a property.
NoHazzard
The whole thing is just a concept of information that can be altered independently but we somehow want to correlate.
When you want to com ine different burger recipe you will probably do it by defining a tomato, cheese and patty dimension etc. Hamburger /2
Could be 0/0/1. Big mac 1/1/2 etc /3
You could declare a continuous burger vector space with mass, height, and cost as dimensions. You'd get to rigorously compare burgers.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
color is you brain's interpretation of light reflecting off an object, light and heat are both just energy.
The interpretation is based on the intensity and wavelength of the light. Boom, 2 dimensions.
No. Not really
Why not? Every point in space can be measured to show the mix of wavelengths and intensities. Dimensions are what you say they are.
ThatsImpressive
How did scientists conclude that the 4th is time? Was it deduced by the concept of an element of nth-space? What if it is not time?
jaee
It's a temporal dimension as opposed to a spatial dimension but we realized they're two peas of the same pod. Like spacetime and worldlines.
AntsinyoureyesJohnson
Current debate is stuck between time and graviyy being the major sides of the fourth dimension. As time is skewwed by gravitational forces.
JasonD
Radquazle
Spacetime is one thing. If you wish to meet someone, it's not enough to say where. You must say when too. Basically plotting points vs time
ButtblasterMcAssmaster
A dimension isn't a "thing", it's a mathematical framework to describe a system. Like a YouTube progress bar is one dimensional.
TheGuyOfTheDots
It's a combination of mathematicians saying "Anything is a dimension if you try hard enough" 1/2
YeGods
Time is not "the" fourth dimension; it does not follow from the third in the same way that the third follows the second.
Calling it "the fourth" is misleading. It's just another coordinate. You can have any number of geometric dimensions and still have time.
LuckyLuke193
Physics is interested in events. Events happen somewhere sometime. Specifying the somewhere takes 3 numbers, the sometime takes a 4th number
rekcilthis1
The graphic is misleading. All dimensions fit into 'space', the third dimension is volume. Time has dimensions separate from space, and (1/
4/) our understanding since we have no concept of multi-dimensional time. It's only possible to visualise fewer dimensions, not more.
2/) since we have 3 dimensions of space and 1 of time time is our 'fourth' dimension. I don't really agree with this, as it's misleading.
3/) And to preempt any questions, yes this does mean you can have several dimensions of time. It's weird and fucky, and pretty much beyond
SherMattLockSmith
Best way to explain it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime
serban1703
In the context of this post, the 4th isn't time. It simply is. Time is the example picked so we can understand the idea of a 4th dimension
ArtMadeofYourComment
Thank you! I thought nobody was going to say it. In these examples, dimensionality has nothing to do with time. You can't just ignore 1/2
time in the 0 through 3rd dimensions and then suddenly it pops up in the 4th. Time exists in the others too.
For we know, time is the 0th dimension, but because of how we function, that is incomprehensible to us. So if 1 is a line, 2 a shape
for *all we knoww. But it does work, I suppose XD
3 an object then 4 would be the previous 3 on a new line, all at once. For example, you at computer, now, is a point on that line.
With physicist saying "hey, equations get easier if you treat time as a dimension, let's keep it like that" 2/2
MrRavellon
Yea, physicists do that. "It sounds stupid." "So? It works." "But why it works that way?" "Dunno. But because it works I can do THIS!"
daellat
Us defining a dimension basically means it can be anything we define as such. Therefore, if it makes sense and it works.. why not?
It actually does not need to make sense. It just needs to work. Quantum physics for example, don't make any sense. But it works.
Quantum physics as a whole compared to using "dimension" to define time as a plane.. how does that comparison make sense.
Sorry, just curious
ceskill
I believe the author mentions that this is just a model to help us understand it, and may not actually be what's exactly right.
wasserhund
This explanation goes for any model, law, theory, equation, etc in existence. Merely tools to help us try to understand our reality.
VoPo
There's no definitive answer to which number is which "thing." "Time" makes sense as a dimension, but it might be 4th or it might be 50th.
GuyNamedSean
At the very least it can be said that human perception only spans four dimensions, the three of space and one of time.
I agree. 'Time' may be the closest 'tangible' representation to humans, but do u think we can have evidence of real 4th dimension? @godelski
databasedatabase
Uhhg I get so mad. "A" dimension is time. It is not the only possible 4th dimension. A dimension is just a new way of distinguishing informa
Tion. It could be another physical dimension, one we can't understand, it could be color, anything. Time is a 4th dimension which is importa
Nt for us cause we are beings that can only exist in time. But in reality it's a real shitty dimension. You can move up, down left right,etc
But we have no way of intentionally altering our position in time. There is no way to move in it. It is like a compulsory dimension we have
No control over. It is a fabrication, a way to understand what we believe is the past better, but for a thing which is FORCED into a specifi
HiImNickOk
My mortal mind cannot comprehend such exquisite topics out of the realm of possible thought and understanding
TheRealData
It's called a point, not a dot. Dots exist in 2 dimensions. Points have zero dimensions.
RememberTheC4nt
As a timelord I can verify that
HorseGirlErection
Remember, like OP said, this is a completely bogus explanation of dimensions meant only to introduce you to the idea of higher dimensions.
trenthian
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Ultrafire3
But can I find my daughter in a space bookshelf?
JoleneJoleneJoleneJoleeene
yes.
joas329
WarPatron
The fourth dimension cannot be considered time. It is orthogonal to the other three axes.
Jetmanfungo
... I like turtles.
simianruler
This isn't how most scientists view the 4th dimension. We are also incapable of perceiving anything less than two dimensions.
YoSoyMilk
IHaveThePerfectPuzzleForYou
Riiiiiiight.
ifitseasytakeittwice
http://royayersproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/the-5th-dimension-stoned-soul-picnic-soul-city-621x618.jpg
baykon89
LEEEEEEEEEEEET THE SUN SHINE LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET THE SUN SHINE IN
BuyMeTacoBell
And the 5th dimension is op's mom.
ChloeRed
I thought of red dwarf.. "what's the 5th dimension?" "Didn't they get to number 4 with 'baby I want your love thing'?" :)
PsyborC
Waaay to heavy for a monday morning!
monczkam
Reading this reminds me of the metaphysics classes I took. Lot of interesting views and discussions.
01010111011001010110110001100011011011110110110101100101
More like mega-gaysics
rossimus
Everything in the universe is, or isn't, a potato. Discuss.
4cqker
I firmly disagree. The 4th dimension should be space shared by space; things in the same place. It's dumbed down by calling it time
AuroraNora33
Time is a* dimension. Not necessarily the 4th
kanashimi444
Time is not a spatial dimension.
dietderpsy
I thought curved space was the time dimension?
kanashimi444
No. Time is not in any way a spatial dimension.
IPunchedASandwich
By giving me something more complicated than the 4th dimension, you helped me understand the 4th dimension
IfYouCheckMyCommentsYouWillNoticeImNotAFunnyGuy
I see what you did there.
Notareptilian
Yes, but what does this have to do with the 3D glasses in movies?
TheEgolessEgotist
Movies are 4D pictures.
IGetItFrenchClass
Oh cool, somebody made CliffsNotes for Flatland.
FuturePerfectTense
GreenAce92
That automatic pistol with a tripod
vonmoony
evorgsumaf
anodoin
I've seen the video you're referencing and no that's not really how we think it works.
Slisher
Sauce?
anodoin
https://youtu.be/Jkxie">6WuA">https://youtu.be/JkxieS-6WuA and https://youtu.be/ySBaYMESb8o
Slisher
Thank you!
ChickenChickenBurningBright
Well, this went from informative to stupid really damn fast.
Maniacxxl
Incomprehensible
ImJustADinosaur
Inconceivable
baroncognito
I have issues with calling a point "pure information."
ChickenChickenBurningBright
As well you should. It was a harbinger of bad things to come.
Corrodias
A "point" in 0 dimensions, no less. It's more like "no information".
squallau
6-dimensions beyond human comprehension? Pfft. int[, , , , ,] array1 = new int[5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5]; Done.
FrogBomb
In college, I took a topology class for my math major. After about the first couple of weeks, we were already on infinite dimensions.
sauerteig
When trying to serialize this, the Visual Studio Designer will be like
squallau
It's perfectly cromulent C#
sauerteig
Compiles fine, but causes RT exception in designer. Jagged arrays wont though. However, details...
imnotgoodatpuns
What about the dimensions of color or temperature? A dimension is nothing more than an arbitrary declaration of measuring a property.
NoHazzard
The whole thing is just a concept of information that can be altered independently but we somehow want to correlate.
NoHazzard
When you want to com ine different burger recipe you will probably do it by defining a tomato, cheese and patty dimension etc. Hamburger /2
NoHazzard
Could be 0/0/1. Big mac 1/1/2 etc /3
imnotgoodatpuns
You could declare a continuous burger vector space with mass, height, and cost as dimensions. You'd get to rigorously compare burgers.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
color is you brain's interpretation of light reflecting off an object, light and heat are both just energy.
imnotgoodatpuns
The interpretation is based on the intensity and wavelength of the light. Boom, 2 dimensions.
AuroraNora33
No. Not really
imnotgoodatpuns
Why not? Every point in space can be measured to show the mix of wavelengths and intensities. Dimensions are what you say they are.
ThatsImpressive
How did scientists conclude that the 4th is time? Was it deduced by the concept of an element of nth-space? What if it is not time?
jaee
It's a temporal dimension as opposed to a spatial dimension but we realized they're two peas of the same pod. Like spacetime and worldlines.
AntsinyoureyesJohnson
Current debate is stuck between time and graviyy being the major sides of the fourth dimension. As time is skewwed by gravitational forces.
JasonD
Radquazle
Spacetime is one thing. If you wish to meet someone, it's not enough to say where. You must say when too. Basically plotting points vs time
ButtblasterMcAssmaster
A dimension isn't a "thing", it's a mathematical framework to describe a system. Like a YouTube progress bar is one dimensional.
TheGuyOfTheDots
It's a combination of mathematicians saying "Anything is a dimension if you try hard enough" 1/2
YeGods
Time is not "the" fourth dimension; it does not follow from the third in the same way that the third follows the second.
YeGods
Calling it "the fourth" is misleading. It's just another coordinate. You can have any number of geometric dimensions and still have time.
LuckyLuke193
Physics is interested in events. Events happen somewhere sometime. Specifying the somewhere takes 3 numbers, the sometime takes a 4th number
rekcilthis1
The graphic is misleading. All dimensions fit into 'space', the third dimension is volume. Time has dimensions separate from space, and (1/
rekcilthis1
4/) our understanding since we have no concept of multi-dimensional time. It's only possible to visualise fewer dimensions, not more.
rekcilthis1
2/) since we have 3 dimensions of space and 1 of time time is our 'fourth' dimension. I don't really agree with this, as it's misleading.
rekcilthis1
3/) And to preempt any questions, yes this does mean you can have several dimensions of time. It's weird and fucky, and pretty much beyond
SherMattLockSmith
Best way to explain it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime
serban1703
In the context of this post, the 4th isn't time. It simply is. Time is the example picked so we can understand the idea of a 4th dimension
ArtMadeofYourComment
Thank you! I thought nobody was going to say it. In these examples, dimensionality has nothing to do with time. You can't just ignore 1/2
ArtMadeofYourComment
time in the 0 through 3rd dimensions and then suddenly it pops up in the 4th. Time exists in the others too.
serban1703
For we know, time is the 0th dimension, but because of how we function, that is incomprehensible to us. So if 1 is a line, 2 a shape
serban1703
for *all we knoww. But it does work, I suppose XD
serban1703
3 an object then 4 would be the previous 3 on a new line, all at once. For example, you at computer, now, is a point on that line.
TheGuyOfTheDots
With physicist saying "hey, equations get easier if you treat time as a dimension, let's keep it like that" 2/2
MrRavellon
Yea, physicists do that. "It sounds stupid." "So? It works." "But why it works that way?" "Dunno. But because it works I can do THIS!"
daellat
Us defining a dimension basically means it can be anything we define as such. Therefore, if it makes sense and it works.. why not?
MrRavellon
It actually does not need to make sense. It just needs to work. Quantum physics for example, don't make any sense. But it works.
daellat
Quantum physics as a whole compared to using "dimension" to define time as a plane.. how does that comparison make sense.
ThatsImpressive
Sorry, just curious
ceskill
I believe the author mentions that this is just a model to help us understand it, and may not actually be what's exactly right.
wasserhund
This explanation goes for any model, law, theory, equation, etc in existence. Merely tools to help us try to understand our reality.
VoPo
There's no definitive answer to which number is which "thing." "Time" makes sense as a dimension, but it might be 4th or it might be 50th.
GuyNamedSean
At the very least it can be said that human perception only spans four dimensions, the three of space and one of time.
ThatsImpressive
I agree. 'Time' may be the closest 'tangible' representation to humans, but do u think we can have evidence of real 4th dimension? @godelski
databasedatabase
Uhhg I get so mad. "A" dimension is time. It is not the only possible 4th dimension. A dimension is just a new way of distinguishing informa
databasedatabase
Tion. It could be another physical dimension, one we can't understand, it could be color, anything. Time is a 4th dimension which is importa
databasedatabase
Nt for us cause we are beings that can only exist in time. But in reality it's a real shitty dimension. You can move up, down left right,etc
databasedatabase
But we have no way of intentionally altering our position in time. There is no way to move in it. It is like a compulsory dimension we have
databasedatabase
No control over. It is a fabrication, a way to understand what we believe is the past better, but for a thing which is FORCED into a specifi