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The concept. This is being developed for possible use as a treatment for premature (human) babies.
They move around a little while in the artificial womb!
Development comparison.
All grown up...er...born.
This is pretty cool IMHO.
Some other people made posts about the same thing. Two of them (the only ones I saw) did include more information. Check out theirs as well!
http://imgur.com/gallery/zsXzU by DriftingSteps
http://imgur.com/gallery/3ZynX by Drosophilamelanobastard
oh and thanks to lIlIlIlIlI for providing some sauce to an in depth article about this! http://www.theverge.com/2017/4/25/15421734/artificial-womb-fetus-biobag-uterus-lamb-sheep-birth-premie-preterm-infant
*Obligatory Most Viral edit:
I'm about to hit my second cake day and this post more than doubled my points...
First time I've seen this-> http://i.imgur.com/GSPXJu8.png
Just remember, If you send me anything, I'm a heterosexual male who loves science (the actual variety..well and the other), computers, programming, outdoors activities, craft projects, and some political stuff. Or just talk about anything people find interesting...
buzzl1ght
I know marinating your meat makes it taste better. But this is going a bit far.
nihilistdad
I am speechless... mind-blown! I work with high-tech IVD development, yet I didn't think this would be possible any time soon...
Kalid19
Okay, but what I want to know is how do they get it Into the bag??
IATTM
catscatsyeahcats
I'm somewhat concerned about the light exposure. Fetuses aren't exposed to light and many hormones are photoregulated.
IATTM
Easy fix!
TheRealSamsquanch
He's just freshly decanted
Snarfmonster
wow an artificial womb
Phischstaebchen
justsignedupforthishit
Vacuum sealed, fresh, never frozen lamb chops coming soon to your local Kroger. Also, Wendy's is looking into this, so watch Twitter!
IATTM
Great, another checklist of things to keep an eye on during our shifts....
papacheetah
Should be noted this sheep was rescued from a premature birth and kept alive in the bag. Not grown from an embryo.
papacheetah
I saw this on Facebook and the title caption was infuriatingly misleading.
Flyndaran
Rescued? I assumed they performed an early "unnecessary" c-section to implant and test this tech. I'm actually relieved a bit. Thanks.
Potatopinup
I'd love to know how this affects emotional development in animals.
IATTM
Let's ask them! But seriously, research is needed for that issue, especially if this is used for humans.
Potatopinup
That was line of thought.
DuckMastaQuack
Read Brave New World and you will see where this will take us
FosterFox
This is unsettling
Chalybos
Matrix? No. Tank-born troops? Yes. Because 'Murica.
ToxicMolluscinity
"We have the best troops. They're going to win us this war, bigly *salutes troops*" Murican emperor in 50 years, probably.
tryingtochangeourplanet
We are in a simulation... wake up little sheep
hearthstoneaccount3
who cares? if its real enough i can't tell the difference what does it matter?
Mewmus
real is what your mind interprets as real. dreams seem pretty real too don't they?
hearthstoneaccount3
and if i could live in my dreams for 80 years then who cares about what happens to my "real" body
ToxicMolluscinity
Found the utilitarian!
ParaChase
The Island? Anyone?
justahumanonline
literally the first thing I thought when I saw it on the news. apparently, not a lot of ppl saw it bc I haven't heard many references to it.
Flyndaran
It was dumb and so full of intrinsic plot holes as to be ignored.
IATTM
Upvoted you for replying to my post, but I did enjoy the movie so idk.
Flyndaran
No prob. I've loved some objectively trash fiction too. :)
LoveFreckles
Terrifying
YolandaBKewl
50% are killed and dissected and the other 50% studied as they grow... pretty fucked up to save a life and then take it away again!
IATTM
But the 50/50 plan is not what they will do once this is tested to know if it works...It will save more lives.
YolandaBKewl
Obviously I know it's for the greater good but it's still fucked up. "Oh hey there little buddy, we saved your life" *electric shock*
hoopinghannah
But that's how research is done. Needs to be tried with animals before human babies. Only way to know the effects/safety and work out kinks.
garfield529
As a scientist, I find the gain in understanding fascinating. However, I feel like this is a little too Brave New World.
mytigio
As not a scientist, you understand this isn't a gestational womb tank right? It's a better hot-box to stick premie's in.
ToxicMolluscinity
For now. *X-files music plays in background*
MilesPrower
It's for premature babies, not full development.
ToxicMolluscinity
At least that's what we're lead to believe. *X-files music plays in background*
IATTM
hmmm...To believe or not to believe; That is the question. Believe what though?
thewhifflingtit
For now.
AwesomeName
Do you call it "born" or "un-ziploc-ed"?
Skadoodlle
Decanted
IATTM
I un-ziplocked you! So help me i could zip you back up!
slamdance7
And then they ate it.
rnalexander
Unless you sear it first you're going to be missing a lot of flavour
oyoyoyyyyy
The bag?
TomZarekVP
seriously?
Roffotron
Sad thing is...they killed some of the lambs after to dissect them to see if there were any developmental effects (1/2)
Roffotron
But some were allowed to live after. It was on the BBC article on the same subject (2/2)
ThePastmaster
Well, you have to do stuff like that to check.
ToxicMolluscinity
Absolutely. There might have been illegal immigrants hiding in there.
Zurre
And all were euthanised to analyse their organs
MyDarlingFeet
Source? I'm curious.
IATTM
Actually, some were allowed to live.
IATTM
According to other commenters.
lickthismiff
Current regulations demand any experiment involving gestation be terminated after 4 weeks, however one was brought to term.
IATTM
For any animal?
Carefuler
and have a delicious dinner.
bjovan1998
Brave new world anyone?
SplendidoSplendente
orgy porgy anyone?
Dociousaliexpilisticfragicalirepus
Thank you! One step closer to "decanting".
saganworshipper
I need some soma.
BionicWaffle
Give me soma that good stuff!
ReverseTrapTsukasa
Is that you John?
JustAnAutisticFuckingRainbowBarfingTransgenderphobeUnicorn
Reading it right now lol
DuckMastaQuack
Aldous Huxley warned us about this!'
MegaDeuce
Warning implies there's a downside :D
DuckMastaQuack
Forced fetal alcohol syndrome to make lesser people do the shitty jobs? Electrocution used as a tool to condition infants? See it yet?
MegaDeuce
With growing babies outside the womb, I meant. Is there a downside to that?
DuckMastaQuack
Ok I see you point now haha, and honestly the only thing I could think of is are just possibilities, we won't know until it happens
bezuer
I wonder what the effect on the psyche is going to be – we know that babies are aware of voices etc while in the womb
KittensGivePaarthurnaxGas
Just play them Soulja Boy's "Crank that" on repeat.
gtmiller
Yeah, maybe will finally understand why Star Trek has so many unique accents. 20 "mother's" voices mixed between Scott and Russian.
IATTM
Here in the USA, people have unique accents living just 5 miles apart. Growing up, you could tell when someone came from a certain town.
IATTM
Yeah, it will be interesting to know!
Nikolai5
I don't think they're just gonna hang it up in the shed for 9 months while it brews.
Carefuler
Maybe we could do better than just voices. Possible to start teaching something while they're developing?
Crazywelderguy
Just play this in the background. http://imgur.com/HRFVwYV
VoidIncarnate
WAR IS PEACE. FREEDOM IS SLAVERY. IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
Sprinx
They play audio of a mother's heartbeat, noises, etc. The current concept is to be a life-saving device for premature babies.
bezuer
somehow I believe rich people are going to use it to get out of having to go through the bothersome part of having a baby
shanfyr
Yeah there is so many unethical applications...
eggmuffin
Such as...?
ChilledBikerDude
Not having to go through painful labor as god intended of course! /s
eggmuffin
Good for them. We shouldn't deny other people something just because it's expensive.
milksteakandghouls
I'd be all over that. Genetically your baby without the agony and body changes? Yes please.
bezuer
I've been told repeatedly there is a whole bag of positive experiences that go along with the negative
IATTM
Then there is my sister: She enjoys the childbirth process (yes, when she is the one having the kid, not just as a bystander). F'ing weird.
eggmuffin
Yes. That's the hormones talking.
ImgurNeedsMoreSmartass
This is great! They are sous vide-ready!
StatisticallyInsignificantCanadian
IATTM
captaingrump
You fucking glorious genius.
Throrf
Meat so fresh it wasn't even born yet.
ZuneIsForever
Bone apple teeth!
OldIronsides
Osteoporosis!
PirateBot
This be great, we'll keel-haul ye! They be sous vide-ready!
Dentistman
I mean, you dont even need sous vide since its probably sterile, so just eat it raw
Illthinkaboutitlater
I suppose they could be brined too...jeez
iamnotsurewhatsgoingonhere
this may as well be the comment of the year..
jo3v
You're my favorite type of Imgurian!
davidbowieeyes
*gag, but
Thoushallnotlurk
That went really dark really fast, hihihi
cynmarmo
I swear I thought that as well.
racistralphy
God damnit. I laughed out loud in Panera now ppl are looking at me.
PaulParten
Own it. Stare back at them in a menacing manner and laugh again, slowly and deliberately.
edasm
Time to turn up the heat...
Timmy79
I'm glad I'm not the only person who thought that.
db17k
Best comment i've seen all week
bennog
Jrex42
Literally laughed out loud!
Ryennjessica
Reading this as I prepare steaks vids sous vide hahahah this is very true
pizzarollsandoreos
Something something.... its mom is a bag so when it calls for its mom it'll go baaaaaaaaaaaag!
TachyonCode
Bakemono da.
DarthFutuza
Baaaaaaaagg. Baaaaag.
Novachair
Most Underrated comment of the past 12 hours goes to...
pizzarollsandoreos
BigDaddysMeatWagon
oooh kay. I'll admit I laughed.
whatsamottowithyou
Maybe now we can end the whole 'I got her prego and she wants to abort and I want the kid' argument.
asquiiiiiiisha
They can't support a full pregnancy. The intention is to simulate a womb environment for preemies. It only works for about a month.
Lenthas
...for now....muahahahahahahahaha
whatsamottowithyou
Yeah, but it's a step in the right direction.
foxfire1112
Stop being so near sighted tho man
TachyonCode
The article I read said they want to make it less scary to parents, and also that they're working on getting it to full-term support.
TachyonCode
Because, let's be honest, what woman - aside from those who feel strongly about this - wants to carry for 9+ months?
TachyonCode
Let's say you had to make vehicles the way people make babies. Would you want it in a self-sustaining facility, or draining your resources?
DarthFutuza
Right now, but what about in ten years?
asquiiiiiiisha
The tech is probably going to meet somewhere in the middle (we're able to sustain embryos in vitro longer and longer), but so far I know 1/2
asquiiiiiiisha
of no way to remove a 4-8 week embryo from a uterus without killing it. Not sure how feasible transfer will be.
IATTM
Is it the act of removing, or the lack of a place to move to, that causes the expiration of the embryo?
asquiiiiiiisha
You have to break the amniotic sac, which is pretty deadly early on. Also anything that small can't be cut off from nutrients for long.
asquiiiiiiisha
From what I know of the science, it seems like we'll be able to grow a human entirely in vitro before we can transfer a 1st-trimester fetus
Jenvas
Plastic-bag-kid would beat pushing a gremlin through your genitals imo.
mirrelle
As a mother of premmies and also a full term baby, 'pushing a gremlin through your genitals' is 100000x better than dealing with a prem bab.
Jenvas
coulda gone from raw to well done in such a bag, but I was thinking having the baby go full time sous vide. (I hope your kids are fine now)
mirrelle
Thank you, they are healthy little bubs now
MetaphoricalFox
Not when you want mentally sound kids (according to latest researches). A Lot happens during preg-time, and load of bond-learning too.
MV50
Just put the bag under your shirt and cut it open
LordDerp2
To be completely fair: you're presuming the only side effects would be negative. Without data, who's to say there won't be good effects?
MetaphoricalFox
That's true.
AndreKroon
One thing I can remember is: Sound. I imagine the bag will be in a safe environment and so wont hear all the sounds a normal baby does.
hoopinghannah
I agree, and for the mom too! Experiencing pregnancy and natural childbirth has a huge effect on maternal bond. Helps with breastfeeding too
doctorbees
All due respect, as a scientist, we've never done this with humans so we have absolutely no idea if there will be mental deficits.
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IATTM
You person, are correct. However, research and the scientific method generally follow the same steps for any field is using them.
MetaphoricalFox
I won't fight you: you are the scientist. But I can't help but draw conclusion from what happens from C-sections and/or non-breastfeeding 1/
MetaphoricalFox
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/mar/18/brazil-longer-babies-breastfed-more-achieve-in-life-major-study
doctorbees
So breastfeeding isn't really a factor we need to consider in this scenario since that happens post-partum.
asquiiiiiiisha
It's still unclear if prolonged breastfeeding is causal or is linked to some other parental behavior that is causal. Breast good, fed best.
SoLongSaulGood
dood, i fuckin support this. Medically, premies are a fucking NIGHTMARE to handle and maintain, their fragility is just too scary to handle.
wademcgillis
now kiss
FelixTheAnimator
Mother of a premie. Can confirm.
Iamthemonkeymansowhatevercats
I know a guy who operates on them. He was saying the biggest veins are like a fine thread big.
Darkspire
That'd make me completely neurotic.
BubbleGutandtheHotSnakes
I know a NICU nurse, I've seen premie diapers. That's enough for me to also confirm this.
Wombatish
Specialty* preemie diapers. The 'sold in stores' preemie size is barely smaller (sauce: NICU told us to just buy newborn, and they would *c*
Wombatish
*c* totally have worked - we already had some preemie from friends/fam)
mytigio
father of premie, can confirm.
GerberLegalTeam
Am a premie. Can also confirm. Coulda died.
spiderqueendemon
Another preemie mom here. Seconded. Mine only made it because of badass nurses and because her dad and I had neonate animal experience.
1jess1ripper1
Had to hold a month old set of premie twins, month old and medically sound and I was still terrified.
ListenSmellSomething
Father of a full term baby, I concur
comnakr
uncle of 2 premies, can confirm.
jaredisawesomeandstuff
There's too many people.
superfeathers
That's because they were never meant to live.
Flyndaran
Similar could be said for me as I was born lactose intolerant, or you for having been vaccinated against what may have killed you otherwise.
devilzadvoc8
God daughter is a premie more like she was in a rush to live.
sheriffimus
Says who????? Hitler?
Wombatish
Technically I would have died, then the kid. I suppose it would have pleased you had they waited to frantically rip him out. Medical care *c
Wombatish
c* is a perfectly reasonable adaptation, esp when most preemies are totally normal after about 1 yr (chronological) age.
Flyndaran
Premature infants like any born outside normal weights have greatly increased risk for cardiovascular disease.
Wombatish
Only starting to be studied appropriately long term, and so far the differences are small - often statistically insignificant for late *c*
WookieWookieWookie
I'm glad you're both ok. Screw that bird.
PyroAvok
How do they get the baby out of the womb and into the bag fast enough to not kill it?
IATTM
I think it has to do with the oxygenation of the blood going through the umbilical cord. Other than that, I have no idea.
HopefullyMadeYouThinkCritically
Well this would be for premmies who are like... being born anyways...
devilzadvoc8
but once their lungs accept air?
CthulhusGreasyBallsack
they can probably fill back up again, considering all the oxygen comes from the umbilical cord, or in this case, "the gas exchange machine"
Bitterbal
in 100 years if 2 people decide they want a child they both fuck a tube and insert it into a machine that will bake a child. Science.
dhaxxis11
I already do this every week.
NoTrumpEver
I'd do it now.
SAlmuhandis
your choice of words is like .... ummmh so sciencey.
CocoaSandwichCookies
Yeah that's not how females work bud
VultureTX
who said females? we already know that a stem cell and a sperm are all you need to make a embryo. now we got a mech womb.
JohnnyTitelips
Oh wow, this technology could render women obsolete from a reproductive standpoint. I wanna see the reaction.
CoffeeTrampTossBitch
You're so well spoken lol
RoutemasterFlash
When this happens, there will be a simultaneous sigh of relief from billions of vaginae.
nihilistdad
A queef of relief.
redjay12
Dude and I could just go to work and come home and check on my fetus. No terribleness of a pregnanxy
iAmNature
No sex, fuck that.
nihilistdad
The primary purpose of sex hasn't been reproduction for a long time now in civilized societies.
ilovevanhalen
"Bake a child" +1
JeffreyBarter
One word. Gattaca.
IATTM
But they didn't do this in Gattaca. The concept in Gattaca was selecting your baby's genes, not using an artificial womb. Great movie!
ironwolf6896
Three words: brave new world
bayardthebloodhound
Well haven't you seen Demolish Man?
AndersV
*Demolition Man
bayardthebloodhound
I hate my phone.
Havok707
might be how we evolve past the "cranium's too big to come out". Also how we might lose natural reproduction xD
Penguinsandbroadswords
We are actually, thanks to c-sections, no longer naturally selecting this out of the gene pool apparently. Heard it on NPR.
maryjane4u
I doubt it will happen in our lifetime tho (losing natural birth)
KillingTheJoke6
Try giving birth to this head: http://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Uatu-Watcher-Marvel-Comics-Fantastic-Four.jpg
tracereading
So in other words we will evolve into either Bith or the races from VanDread.
Ulthirm
I believe it will be strange soldiers from a side universe taking over the planet is how we will lose our reproduction.
itsybitsyspider
It would be a very long time as this is meant to help premies
ChillaAquila
it's overrated
nihilistdad
As long as we can keep sex, fuck reproduction.
WildHigh
All I can picture is two really excited people in chef's clothing staring at an easy bake oven... AND THAN A BABY POPS OUT!
WildHigh
"Honey! The pop-overs are done!" Oh LNI, what have you done to me?
Sneemaster
"Honey, why did you over cook it? The baby is dark brown."
Bitterbal
FINALLY! someone that gets what I meant with my comment. Some people take this 180 degrees the wrong way.
PaulParten
Actually most humans are slowly braised at about 98°F for ~ 6,570 hours so they turn out fork tender and juicy.
Hexarcy00
you need to study women's anatomy a bit more
Treblaine
I think he's studied women's anatomy quite enough!
Hexarcy00
oh, please elaborate
Treblaine
guantanamobayxx
FlyingButtPliers
I wonder how many gynecologists are bad lovers.
IATTM
If they're females that are attracted to males, maybe the same as the average Jane?
bayardthebloodhound
Hmmm, not really something to think about when on the table but is a good question all the same.
Dentistman
I wonder how many dentists are good at oral
lDAHO
You could have said proctologists. Missed opportunity.
lDAHO
You could have said proctologists. Missed opportunity.
TheManInBlackASicilianAndIocanePowderWalkIntoABar
Probably the same as asking how many sports analysts are actually good at playing the sport.
BigDaddysMeatWagon
Those who can't, teach.
LongCommentChainAppreciator
And in case of Gyno's, those who can't, reach?
howappropriateyoufightlikeacow
She fucks the outside, he fucks the inside. Her part is just for fun tho.
waynethainsane
still not how it works
Demoux28
It could. They could just remove the egg after its fertilized and then let it grow in a bag
imheretostirthepot
That tag is ambitious. I hope it does too. So I can clone me self to work for me.
ohthemducks
i only logged in so i can upvote this comment! GG sir/mam
photosforbikeforum
If you had sex with your clone would it be masturbation?
imheretostirthepot
DudePlayinADudeDisguisedAsAnotherDude
But you'll be old by the time the clone is ready. Then they'll just kill and replace you.
hybridflowers
Ever seen The Island?
getmo
This movie blew me away. One of best action movies I've seen with story so enthralling I didn't realize I was watching an action movie.
IATTM
I loved it as well!!!
AlcOGr
This has happened already, and you are the working one, deal with it.
MeatHangover
Until the clone makes another clone for the same purpose, and they get progressively dumber. Go watch multiplicity.
IATTM
Added to my list!
imheretostirthepot
I've watched it with my dad when I was younger. I'd probably enslave them without them knowing.
IATTM
Eh, i was tried phrasing it as a question, but no question marks can be used and it got too long otherwise.
iSoulend
Science bitch cannot be a question, it's a fact you throw right in the face of those who doubt
imheretostirthepot
Science, bitch?
MattGlade
"will it make it to the fp" would have sufficed?
AbusedPickle
Implying your clone wouldn't be as lazy as you are.
AntiEvil007
It would take three clones to beat the original Homer!!
alexstamat
And makes a clone of him self who then makes a clone of him self.....
imjustkitten
Omygod a fucking endless loop? I'd rather just stare at a perfect looped gif.
Aquilarden
Many hands make light work?
Nathanyel
EXISTENCE IS PAIN
MrPoopyDickButt
MESEEKS TO END IT
alexstamat
I was thinking of bender from futurama from the episode where he kept making copies of him self to do his work. But Mr meeseeks works too.
IATTM
Simpsons did it first?I don't know when, but I'm sure they did. Seeing as they're made by the same guy though. also Gravity Falls did it too
Nathanyel
Oh right, forgot about that. This was from one of the four movies, right?