Aug 11, 2020 3:27 PM
LordOfZajo
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Snadethebeast
@LordOfZajo you are at the front page
AdultPersistentAngst
I'm very sorry to hear that. There's help out there if you decide to use it.
frankenmullet22
OldSchool93
rawdog
Sometimes its not traumatic...if he didnt touch you and you were unaware/didnt feel bad then it can just be filed as really weird... @OP
fiftysheasofgay
Hot take: don’t let anybody convince you you’re traumatized. We all respond differently to events, and if you’re fine, I’m happy for you!1/2
That being said, explore this event fully and let yourself feel openly. You are strong and capable. I love you. ❤️
VadersBurntDick
v
Nathanfake
Right away
indigogames
Have you told anyone? Is he still alive? Bc if he did that with you he may still be doing it
beenpostingsince
I'm sure he's tired by now
joelsnh67424
Same here. I always loved naked time as a kid
whitebbwolf
as someone who grew up in Germany with loads of Nudist beaches I cannot understand how nakedness itself is "malicious" at all times srsly
bluemagister
Nudity isn't inherently harmful or bad. If that's a euphemism for sexual stuff then sure, but otherwise eh. Nudists exist.
hqnolan
This is true, and a good point to make. Trauma is based on perception and the response felt by the client.
SalvadorVango
Is “naked games” a euphemism or did you play actual games in the nude?
darthnuttall
Games in the nude
Games like “who can take all their clothes off the fastest” or “strip uno” or other things like that.
lafemmenikita
But he didn't touch you in any way? Still creepy and nasty, but I understand how at least that might've kept you from being traumatized
wiltsjunk
Geez. Sorry you had to deal with that.
IDownvoteAllPoliticalPosts
Now that's a proper use of confession bear. I'd say see a therapist, it does help
ThisUserNameIsAlreadyTaken0
Trauma isn't an event, it's a type of reaction to an event. But still, I'm sorry that happened to you.
fivefrozenfishfingers
As an uncle, I want to strangle these people.
Deurkrukaduck
in uncle touchy's naked puzzle basement ?
HerpDerpopotamus
HellfireJags
I knew my brother abused me, but there was shit my father did as well that I never questioned. Sometimes we just don't realize until later.
menspiration
If you've emotionally managed that part of your life OK, there's no need to victimize yourself.
KatInTheCorner
Social worker here. Talk to a professional about it. Seriously. Trauma expresses itself in ways we don't always obviously see.
tumppu
Being naked is not usually a taboo for kids, so unless something bad happened, you simply remember playing games.
NoWeCantStopHereThisIsBatCountry
mrbomb1339
I don't think he was suggesting it isn't bad, just saying that the kid probably didn't realize it was bad at the time
barbarian818
Many abusers seduce rather than coerce. One of the pains some survivors have to deal with is the feeling that *at the time* they liked it
"Uncle Touchy" makes you feel special and worthy of attention and starts with things that seem innocent and feel good.
tonsa3000
My aunts used to kerp me naked after my bath while I talked to them in the livingroom. I'm male.
AdmJota
"Aunts" as in both being sisters of one of your parents, or "aunts" as in "'aunts'"?
Lulabel73
You don’t remember it being traumatic because he groomed you. It’s a difficult thing to accept that some children “enjoy” it. If the kid -
- isn’t they might tell someone what’s going on. Obviously there will be kids who did not enjoy it and some who are just numb about it.
NobodyCanEnjoyNiceThings
Did you win?
TheYoungerChrisEvans
This makes me feel better about contemplating a "doesn't matter, had sex" comment.
gladusty
damienxwaltz
Jangotat
You sir, gave me the best laugh of my week.
theblackbaboon
Youre going to hell +1
Tortfeas0r
You get the +1 from me, but v
daemogorgon
NotSoDarkKnight
His uncle did?
Panamapapers666
You sound like a pederass
Is that a pun?
Guess you're 2 young
I mean, im 39. But go on. I'm assuming its a pop culture reference, but I haven't seen/ heard everything, forgive me lol
MatrimBloodyCauthon
I have no idea what tf he is talking about either
Just competitive
Desperate
ChristopherEvans1
Umm, where were your parents?
GoochoLibre
Parents often don't think to suspect family.
easytigger
They were also playing naked games, just with each other.
cosinewave
How old was he?
beardsandbeers
Sometimes we repress trauma so we don't have to deal with it. I'm sorry that happened to you, OP.
abyssfiend1
Or you never considered it traumatic, you know.
Aliubi
Was there anything unusual other than nudity? There's nothing wrong with that, if no inappropriate contact.
NarratesTheDarkerStory
Sometimes a dramatic event doesn't cause trauma. Especially if understanding came much later in life.
Ninjainslippers
This is the real answer. Just seemed ordinary, so why would you remember it? Then something triggers recall and you go "Oh shit."
That almost never happens and has led to a lot of false child abuse convictions based on planting false memories. Dark time for psychology.
usernameblankityblank
define almost never. 1/1000? 1/1,000,000
I mean there aren't exact figures but it's a psych 101 example because of how many proven cases there were of false memories.
whoiscoolestguyontheplanet
The myth of “suppressed memories” is more appealing than the reality that “suppressed memories” rarely happen, if ever.
stickywiggit
I don't know about repressed but recontextualized memories are a real thing. Where you rationalize the event so it's less traumatic.
That's not a bad thing unless it's preventing you from addressing problematic behavior or emotional pain.
dasklaus
Not every fucked up thing produces trauma. For a kid, non-coercive naked games could feel harmless and only later be "oh ... wait ..."
TheRealDeadBird
Yeah, this.
idontcareifthesundontshine
My great aunt married late in life to a guy who was very handy and hed stroke my back under my t shirt. I dont know how to feel about it
at all. It was kind of a family joke that he was handy and he dieda long time ago, seems pointless bringing it up and I didn't mind at the t
Time. It was only borderline inappropriate but I do remember it clearly and it makes me feel vaguely uncomfortable
Clarification: there was no coercion, i was just an uninhibited and immodest child who didn’t mind being naked. He just took advantage.
Iupdootpuppers
Kids don’t usually feel modesty until around age 7. I used to go around in just panties in public until I was 8.
Whatsname
bro... if it was terribly abusive and you don't see it "as traumatic", you are traumatized but just don't realize it yet. You're about to.
LordofSandvich
See I thought you meant playing games with nudity in them
twabby16
For a long time I would down play my own trauma just to make it easier to live with. You need trauma therapy. I'm sorry for what happened.
Vaanhalen
Was... he... also naked?
Maradiaga
You slut
I guess people didn't like that comment
whatwhenwherewhyhowwho
That was no excuse for what he did, he knew better!
Asadsadsadclown
Stop that, stop that right now. You are blaming yourself for what he did. Go to therapy. It is not your fault, never has been, never will be
Jace99
All children are immodest and uninhibited. Mine loved to run around the house naked as j-birds and belly laughing. He's a monster. Period.
Silent1fd
Nope I was modest even at 2, never wanted anyone seeing me. Still dont
tangybreath
My little sister was such a modest toddler. It mightve stemed from this big freckle on her belly that we used to tickle lol
pollypocketfullofposies
You were a child. No excuses for him.
Sure, but at the same time I’m not that worked up about it. Obviously it’s not ideal but I’m not upset at the memory. It’s just an 1/2
2/2 “oh shit I guess my uncle is a pedo” moment.
ColdestOne
If the uncle wasn't naked I don't necessarily think anything fishy was going on. If he was naked, well that's weird.
Yeah he was, that’s why I think he was a pedo. But at the time I thought it was silly and fun so I’m not messed up, so I won’t tell anyone.
DarrenGreen
I just want to say this: You are allowed to feel however you feel about this. Just because he abused you doesn't mean you're required 1/2
to "be an abuse victim" or be "traumatized." Your feelings don't make what he did any less wrong. If you feel fine, that's fine. If you 2/3
don't, that's valid, too. You are not consenting or validating abuse by how you feel, and if you don't feel the way you "should," that 3/4
doesn't mean anything is wrong with you. Some people may try to tell you you're broken. No matter what - you're not. You're just you. 4/4
*That said, if you think you could benefit from therapy, go for it. No shame, everybody who can should at least once.
SendNudis
I’m glad you don’t feel abused. I can really relate to this. I was very close to my grandfather growing up and about 18 learned that he
Raped my aunt (his daughter) from like 10-16. That completely changed the lens that I saw my relationship with my grandfather. Nothing ever
Happened, but I remember a very specific and odd occurrence when I was 10 (!?!) where he asked if I would do something for if I got a
Special treat. I didn’t know what was being asked, but I sure as hell wanted a double scoop of ice cream so off we went . Later that day, he
Asked if I would take off my clothes. At the time, I thought it was like a test. To make sure I would say no. So I said no, of course not.
Considering the content of this post and the fact that it's on the FP, I'm not sure what to think about the bio on your profile page.
Oh that was made to mock the free pizza guy that imgur loves who begs people to front page him on his profile. Standard kharma whoring.
haveueverwentfast
Hey man, don't shit on Abe. He is a good person, be more positive and you'll be better for it.
ThwartedHive
Yeah, like you said. My daughter still runs around the house like that at 8 because her mom will do the same 1/
but it's getting around that time where that has to stop. Either way, that kid has never seen me out of boxers
AlliNWhenPlaying
Isn't it easier to just teach your daughter that mom can do it because she's married? Don't burn your aces mate! ;)
goodonesalreadytaken
Kids will do things of that nature, they don’t know any different. Adults should. Sorry OP
HighSorcerer
Ye. When I was 2-3 my younger brother and I used to run around naked all the time. Thought it was hilarious. Adults should know better.
DiIdo
It's not that uncommon for a 2-3 year old and honestly, it totally depends on the situation, but I dont see it inappropriate at that age.
BBetts84
like when the kid takes his diaper off and runs around the house, fine until you find them peeing in a corner
My niece did that once when I was babysitting her, all over my brother's $300 rug lol
jrjrbx
That’s cause you’re not a pedophile my dude. That’s the way it should be.
nonCanadianGoose
If there’s no trauma or distress associated with it then you shouldn’t feel pressured fabricate things that don’t exist just because it’s >
browncoatsunite
Realizing an event from your childhood SHOULD have been traumatic can cause trauma. I would wonder if the uncle had other victims.
amandaNeatoMagneto
Oh, look, Epstein didn't really kill himself, he's here on imgur ?
akom
They're speaking to how OP is dealing / can deal with the situation, not removing blame from the uncle.
RunanD
Oh, look, someone who can't read. They're here in a comments section (for...some reason..?)
MinistryofHumanity
Well technically they didn't claim to be traumatized...so not quite sure which part of what they said was fabricated?
The child doesn't have to be traumatized for an act or behavior to be considered inappropriate/wrong/illegal.
BerticusFlamebearer
I think that's basically what comment is saying. If it didn't traumatize you, that doesn't stop it from being bad.
So be honest when describing it, rather than hunt for "missing" trauma for it to feel real.
My point, if he isn’t distressed by it he shouldn’t feel pressured to or something is wrong that he doesn’t because it’s expected. That>
>in itself can lead to another type of emotional distress that will be misattributed to the event. I was in a violent crime & had to deal>
Oh I see what youre saying. And Im sorry to hear that... I hope youre doing better now.
>expected. While it doesn’t justify what he did, there’s no reason to develop trauma where none existed before.
This fucked me up so much as a teen, to realize some things were not right in hindsight, but also not feeling traumatized, and then 1/
all those "repressed trauma" narratives everywhere got me deep into "I'm probably traumatized and just don't notice" etc. Don't go there.
DickRogers
I feel like if you ever brought this point up with an SJW, youd get 'Well sure but, thats just the small minority etc...' Youd be /1
shenanigasms
Dude, I had the same! Older cousin showed me a naked woman in some sexy magazine, asked could he "see mine", I was about 5 and found it 1/
Snadethebeast
@LordOfZajo you are at the front page
AdultPersistentAngst
I'm very sorry to hear that. There's help out there if you decide to use it.
frankenmullet22
OldSchool93
rawdog
Sometimes its not traumatic...if he didnt touch you and you were unaware/didnt feel bad then it can just be filed as really weird... @OP
fiftysheasofgay
Hot take: don’t let anybody convince you you’re traumatized. We all respond differently to events, and if you’re fine, I’m happy for you!1/2
fiftysheasofgay
That being said, explore this event fully and let yourself feel openly. You are strong and capable. I love you. ❤️
VadersBurntDick
Nathanfake
Right away
indigogames
Have you told anyone? Is he still alive? Bc if he did that with you he may still be doing it
beenpostingsince
I'm sure he's tired by now
joelsnh67424
Same here. I always loved naked time as a kid
whitebbwolf
as someone who grew up in Germany with loads of Nudist beaches I cannot understand how nakedness itself is "malicious" at all times srsly
bluemagister
Nudity isn't inherently harmful or bad. If that's a euphemism for sexual stuff then sure, but otherwise eh. Nudists exist.
hqnolan
This is true, and a good point to make. Trauma is based on perception and the response felt by the client.
SalvadorVango
Is “naked games” a euphemism or did you play actual games in the nude?
darthnuttall
Games in the nude
LordOfZajo
Games like “who can take all their clothes off the fastest” or “strip uno” or other things like that.
lafemmenikita
But he didn't touch you in any way? Still creepy and nasty, but I understand how at least that might've kept you from being traumatized
wiltsjunk
Geez. Sorry you had to deal with that.
IDownvoteAllPoliticalPosts
Now that's a proper use of confession bear. I'd say see a therapist, it does help
ThisUserNameIsAlreadyTaken0
Trauma isn't an event, it's a type of reaction to an event. But still, I'm sorry that happened to you.
fivefrozenfishfingers
As an uncle, I want to strangle these people.
Deurkrukaduck
in uncle touchy's naked puzzle basement ?
HerpDerpopotamus
HellfireJags
I knew my brother abused me, but there was shit my father did as well that I never questioned. Sometimes we just don't realize until later.
menspiration
If you've emotionally managed that part of your life OK, there's no need to victimize yourself.
KatInTheCorner
Social worker here. Talk to a professional about it. Seriously. Trauma expresses itself in ways we don't always obviously see.
tumppu
Being naked is not usually a taboo for kids, so unless something bad happened, you simply remember playing games.
NoWeCantStopHereThisIsBatCountry
mrbomb1339
I don't think he was suggesting it isn't bad, just saying that the kid probably didn't realize it was bad at the time
barbarian818
Many abusers seduce rather than coerce. One of the pains some survivors have to deal with is the feeling that *at the time* they liked it
barbarian818
"Uncle Touchy" makes you feel special and worthy of attention and starts with things that seem innocent and feel good.
tonsa3000
My aunts used to kerp me naked after my bath while I talked to them in the livingroom. I'm male.
AdmJota
"Aunts" as in both being sisters of one of your parents, or "aunts" as in "'aunts'"?
Lulabel73
You don’t remember it being traumatic because he groomed you. It’s a difficult thing to accept that some children “enjoy” it. If the kid -
Lulabel73
- isn’t they might tell someone what’s going on. Obviously there will be kids who did not enjoy it and some who are just numb about it.
NobodyCanEnjoyNiceThings
Did you win?
TheYoungerChrisEvans
This makes me feel better about contemplating a "doesn't matter, had sex" comment.
gladusty
damienxwaltz
Jangotat
You sir, gave me the best laugh of my week.
theblackbaboon
Youre going to hell +1
Tortfeas0r
You get the +1 from me, but
v
daemogorgon
NotSoDarkKnight
His uncle did?
Panamapapers666
You sound like a pederass
TheYoungerChrisEvans
Is that a pun?
Panamapapers666
Guess you're 2 young
TheYoungerChrisEvans
I mean, im 39. But go on. I'm assuming its a pop culture reference, but I haven't seen/ heard everything, forgive me lol
MatrimBloodyCauthon
I have no idea what tf he is talking about either
NobodyCanEnjoyNiceThings
Just competitive
Panamapapers666
Desperate
ChristopherEvans1
Umm, where were your parents?
GoochoLibre
Parents often don't think to suspect family.
easytigger
They were also playing naked games, just with each other.
cosinewave
How old was he?
beardsandbeers
Sometimes we repress trauma so we don't have to deal with it. I'm sorry that happened to you, OP.
abyssfiend1
Or you never considered it traumatic, you know.
Aliubi
Was there anything unusual other than nudity? There's nothing wrong with that, if no inappropriate contact.
NarratesTheDarkerStory
Sometimes a dramatic event doesn't cause trauma. Especially if understanding came much later in life.
Ninjainslippers
This is the real answer. Just seemed ordinary, so why would you remember it? Then something triggers recall and you go "Oh shit."
Ninjainslippers
That almost never happens and has led to a lot of false child abuse convictions based on planting false memories. Dark time for psychology.
usernameblankityblank
define almost never. 1/1000? 1/1,000,000
Ninjainslippers
I mean there aren't exact figures but it's a psych 101 example because of how many proven cases there were of false memories.
whoiscoolestguyontheplanet
The myth of “suppressed memories” is more appealing than the reality that “suppressed memories” rarely happen, if ever.
stickywiggit
I don't know about repressed but recontextualized memories are a real thing. Where you rationalize the event so it's less traumatic.
stickywiggit
That's not a bad thing unless it's preventing you from addressing problematic behavior or emotional pain.
dasklaus
Not every fucked up thing produces trauma. For a kid, non-coercive naked games could feel harmless and only later be "oh ... wait ..."
TheRealDeadBird
Yeah, this.
idontcareifthesundontshine
My great aunt married late in life to a guy who was very handy and hed stroke my back under my t shirt. I dont know how to feel about it
idontcareifthesundontshine
at all. It was kind of a family joke that he was handy and he dieda long time ago, seems pointless bringing it up and I didn't mind at the t
idontcareifthesundontshine
Time. It was only borderline inappropriate but I do remember it clearly and it makes me feel vaguely uncomfortable
LordOfZajo
Clarification: there was no coercion, i was just an uninhibited and immodest child who didn’t mind being naked. He just took advantage.
Iupdootpuppers
Kids don’t usually feel modesty until around age 7. I used to go around in just panties in public until I was 8.
Whatsname
bro... if it was terribly abusive and you don't see it "as traumatic", you are traumatized but just don't realize it yet. You're about to.
LordofSandvich
See I thought you meant playing games with nudity in them
twabby16
For a long time I would down play my own trauma just to make it easier to live with. You need trauma therapy. I'm sorry for what happened.
Vaanhalen
Was... he... also naked?
Maradiaga
You slut
Maradiaga
I guess people didn't like that comment
whatwhenwherewhyhowwho
That was no excuse for what he did, he knew better!
Asadsadsadclown
Stop that, stop that right now. You are blaming yourself for what he did. Go to therapy. It is not your fault, never has been, never will be
Jace99
All children are immodest and uninhibited. Mine loved to run around the house naked as j-birds and belly laughing. He's a monster. Period.
Silent1fd
Nope I was modest even at 2, never wanted anyone seeing me. Still dont
tangybreath
My little sister was such a modest toddler. It mightve stemed from this big freckle on her belly that we used to tickle lol
pollypocketfullofposies
You were a child. No excuses for him.
LordOfZajo
Sure, but at the same time I’m not that worked up about it. Obviously it’s not ideal but I’m not upset at the memory. It’s just an 1/2
LordOfZajo
2/2 “oh shit I guess my uncle is a pedo” moment.
ColdestOne
If the uncle wasn't naked I don't necessarily think anything fishy was going on. If he was naked, well that's weird.
LordOfZajo
Yeah he was, that’s why I think he was a pedo. But at the time I thought it was silly and fun so I’m not messed up, so I won’t tell anyone.
DarrenGreen
I just want to say this: You are allowed to feel however you feel about this. Just because he abused you doesn't mean you're required 1/2
DarrenGreen
to "be an abuse victim" or be "traumatized." Your feelings don't make what he did any less wrong. If you feel fine, that's fine. If you 2/3
DarrenGreen
don't, that's valid, too. You are not consenting or validating abuse by how you feel, and if you don't feel the way you "should," that 3/4
DarrenGreen
doesn't mean anything is wrong with you. Some people may try to tell you you're broken. No matter what - you're not. You're just you. 4/4
DarrenGreen
*That said, if you think you could benefit from therapy, go for it. No shame, everybody who can should at least once.
SendNudis
I’m glad you don’t feel abused. I can really relate to this. I was very close to my grandfather growing up and about 18 learned that he
SendNudis
Raped my aunt (his daughter) from like 10-16. That completely changed the lens that I saw my relationship with my grandfather. Nothing ever
SendNudis
Happened, but I remember a very specific and odd occurrence when I was 10 (!?!) where he asked if I would do something for if I got a
SendNudis
Special treat. I didn’t know what was being asked, but I sure as hell wanted a double scoop of ice cream so off we went . Later that day, he
SendNudis
Asked if I would take off my clothes. At the time, I thought it was like a test. To make sure I would say no. So I said no, of course not.
AdmJota
Considering the content of this post and the fact that it's on the FP, I'm not sure what to think about the bio on your profile page.
LordOfZajo
Oh that was made to mock the free pizza guy that imgur loves who begs people to front page him on his profile. Standard kharma whoring.
haveueverwentfast
Hey man, don't shit on Abe. He is a good person, be more positive and you'll be better for it.
ThwartedHive
Yeah, like you said. My daughter still runs around the house like that at 8 because her mom will do the same 1/
ThwartedHive
but it's getting around that time where that has to stop. Either way, that kid has never seen me out of boxers
AlliNWhenPlaying
Isn't it easier to just teach your daughter that mom can do it because she's married? Don't burn your aces mate! ;)
goodonesalreadytaken
Kids will do things of that nature, they don’t know any different. Adults should. Sorry OP
HighSorcerer
Ye. When I was 2-3 my younger brother and I used to run around naked all the time. Thought it was hilarious. Adults should know better.
DiIdo
It's not that uncommon for a 2-3 year old and honestly, it totally depends on the situation, but I dont see it inappropriate at that age.
BBetts84
like when the kid takes his diaper off and runs around the house, fine until you find them peeing in a corner
HighSorcerer
My niece did that once when I was babysitting her, all over my brother's $300 rug lol
jrjrbx
That’s cause you’re not a pedophile my dude. That’s the way it should be.
nonCanadianGoose
If there’s no trauma or distress associated with it then you shouldn’t feel pressured fabricate things that don’t exist just because it’s >
browncoatsunite
Realizing an event from your childhood SHOULD have been traumatic can cause trauma. I would wonder if the uncle had other victims.
amandaNeatoMagneto
Oh, look, Epstein didn't really kill himself, he's here on imgur ?
akom
They're speaking to how OP is dealing / can deal with the situation, not removing blame from the uncle.
RunanD
Oh, look, someone who can't read. They're here in a comments section (for...some reason..?)
MinistryofHumanity
Well technically they didn't claim to be traumatized...so not quite sure which part of what they said was fabricated?
MinistryofHumanity
The child doesn't have to be traumatized for an act or behavior to be considered inappropriate/wrong/illegal.
BerticusFlamebearer
I think that's basically what comment is saying. If it didn't traumatize you, that doesn't stop it from being bad.
BerticusFlamebearer
So be honest when describing it, rather than hunt for "missing" trauma for it to feel real.
nonCanadianGoose
My point, if he isn’t distressed by it he shouldn’t feel pressured to or something is wrong that he doesn’t because it’s expected. That>
nonCanadianGoose
>in itself can lead to another type of emotional distress that will be misattributed to the event. I was in a violent crime & had to deal>
MinistryofHumanity
Oh I see what youre saying. And Im sorry to hear that... I hope youre doing better now.
nonCanadianGoose
>expected. While it doesn’t justify what he did, there’s no reason to develop trauma where none existed before.
dasklaus
This fucked me up so much as a teen, to realize some things were not right in hindsight, but also not feeling traumatized, and then 1/
dasklaus
all those "repressed trauma" narratives everywhere got me deep into "I'm probably traumatized and just don't notice" etc. Don't go there.
DickRogers
I feel like if you ever brought this point up with an SJW, youd get 'Well sure but, thats just the small minority etc...' Youd be /1
shenanigasms
Dude, I had the same! Older cousin showed me a naked woman in some sexy magazine, asked could he "see mine", I was about 5 and found it 1/