Ukraine

Sep 29, 2022 11:38 PM

Washington Examiner revealed its new cover

I see no future where Ukraine can retake its land. Not without massive donations of offensive weapons. NATO is gliding into war, gradual.

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It's a nice cover, but I want an ending to the war where Putin's head is no longer attached to his shoulders.

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The war isn't over yet... far from over..

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Now the war happens on "Russian" soil which means Putin is even more free to deal with it how he wants then before,chemical weapons included

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Meme'd on.

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Fuck the Washington Examiner.

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M-O-O-N Spells Moonies

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interesting that a super right wing rag is going with this

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Did Russia miss a payment? Why is the shit rag flexing on them all of a sudden?

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It'll realistically be a decade at least before Ukraine meets the requirements for full EU membership. Gotta tackle the corruption.

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Putin can’t win, but I think he’s trying to make sure Ukraine doesn’t either. He still has a lot of people to throw at them.

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No its not just spite - he's still trying to win. He's just... no a military guy, and he's surrounded by yes-men.

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He has no idea how pointless this is, and he feels like he needs to do *something*.

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At this point the only way this can possibly end is with Putin's death, one way or other. I hope the bastard doesn't take millions with him.

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Spoiler alert: He's gona take at least a million.

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All the world needs is for Putin to make the one mistake that would bring NATO into it. The combined forces of NATO, created for just =>

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that moment would completely overpower Russia since they were designed to match the USSR. Nukes would be the final disaster for everyone.

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Bold of them to assume Putin won't be a sore loser and just nuke everyone.

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If he drops nukes on Ukraine, that's WW3. And given the state of the rest of his military, he can't have enough working nukes to "win" WW3.

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A nuclear WW3 wont have a winner, even if your country is not directly hit the fallout is gonna travel everywhere.

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Since when is the Washington Examiner anti-Putin?

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Since he's losing, probably

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Super confused.

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Maybe since he's losing..?

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Yup. I’d have to read the article first. Seeing the other headlines, wouldn’t be surprised if the article was about Russia being the victim.

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Yeah I was confused because I thought the Examiner was a pretty right wing publication.

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Owned by moonies.

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Cant win? Swap sides! Duh

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I'll give you one guess what the "Rebuilding America" logo is referring to.

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"NYC pits immigrants against homeless" is also a dog whistle so low frequency it's just a whistle.

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Supporting Ukraine is a pretty non-partisan issue in the US.

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They know how much money is in rebuilding a country.

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I mean it'll be a shitty bombed out mess looted by the ultrarich and ruled over by thuggish violent bands. But not Russian ones, so progress

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I’m pro Ukraine but it does have a huge organized crime problem. In fact, the gangs are problem for much of the western world too.

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A lot of people here who were against sending weapons was mainly worried about those ending up in criminal hands after the war.

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Gangs, politicians there a difference?

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wait what does the gold medal ELL mean?

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EU

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ah her fingers was covering the bottom line and I thought it was Ell

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I think that likely says EU with her fingers covering the bottom of the U.

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Of course EU. Somebody has to pay up for the repairs.

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yup that finger tricked me

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I could see a scenario where futurists use Ukraine as a testing ground for "Smart City" tech. With so much infrastructure that is needed...

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Like London in 1666.

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Fuck no, Smart City tech funds in Europe are plagued with frauds and comp. illiterate experts siphoning all the money. UKR deserves better.

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For the love of God don't let "futurists" take control of Ukraine. That's just a code word for greedy billionair with computers.

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Unfortunately, corruption and culture in Ukraine is quite similar to Russia, which makes a risky investm. Source: I've grown up in the area.

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If i remember right, Ukraine was seen as one of the most corrupted countries in Europe pre war.

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I would love to see Ukraine turned into a better version of south korea. That would be a fantastic thing to see.

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I don't know -- it has historically been a very corrupt country. That sort of cultural norm takes a long time to change.

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Or drastic social upheval.

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What starts out as "Futurists testing Smart City tech" quickly turns into to "Capitalist Corporations building Cyberpunk Dystopia"

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For many Ukrainians, a cyberpunk dystopia is basically the expected outcome of the 21st century.

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For humanity*

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...companies could benefit from some good will for charging little to nothing to try new technologies and city layouts.

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So you want to pay them in....exposure?

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Its not art. These are billion dollar companies with tech to prove.

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Charging little to nothing? That’s not how this works! /s

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Oh there will be trillions of our tax dollars funding it. Billions will go to these companies so millions can be spent delivering a k or 2

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It is if you want them to choose your project over more tried & true methods & when the U.S. government covers the difference in cost.

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downvoted for forgetting how the Iraq rebuild effort went

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Zelenskyy is more competent I’d think. He’s not going to let dumb fuck shit for brain contractors do a sloppy cash grab

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I don't think Iraq got a huge amount of international support.

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We need a new Marshall Plan to rebuilt Ukraine... with seized Russian assets.

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Just gotta be careful not to repeat treaty of Versailles

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*eastern Ukraine

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Assuming Ukraine wants it. They've got their work cut out fixing what Russia broke in THEIR lands; they can't fix what the Russians broke in

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"Assuming Ukraine wants it" Of course they don't. It's not like they fought a fucking war all year for it or anything.

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They fought a war to keep Russia out. NOT to take Russia.

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Russia on top of that. Also, the Ukranians aren't land-devouring power-hungry warlords with delusions of tsardom.

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I really do hope that will be the case, but I honestly see the situation as more of something that eventually just simmers down into the >

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What will happen is Russia will defend Donbas region for about 2 years and keep firing missiles into Ukrain then offer a peace treaty for it

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they don't have that many missiles, they are already using anti air ones quite often

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< equivalent of Afghanistan with the two sides dealing with a 20-year-long proxy war which never quite ends or changing hands, but leaving >

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< the Ukrainian people miserable, and figurately (if not literally) ground into the dust. I hope I'm wrong, though.

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It's not likely to go that way. Ukraine has the backing of the West, Russia appears to be scrounging for men and resources. Furthermore, >

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Afghanistan was an insurgency war. The insurgencies in Ukraine are fighting the Russians. For the Ukrainian Government. Which is still VERY>

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intact. The Ukrainian military has been making pushes into Russian occupied territory. And they are motivated, they want to drive Russia >

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out. Russia cannot sustain this war. Nor can Ukraine, really, but Ukraine has much better support than Russia does.

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I don’t think Afghanistan would have lasted 20 years if the US had instituted a draft after the first 6 months of fighting

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Just got to wait for Russia to kill 3K+ civilians in a devastating homeland attack. If only the State would allow that to happen.

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Afghanistan isn't as comparable as there's no nation building that needs to happen, nor a full government replacement.

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There are definitely a lot of parallels between the two, but the USSR was stronger then than Russia is now, and that 10 year proxy war broke

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them. Putin's probably not keen on repeating the same mistake, but he's also unlikely to ever admit defeat, so a long drawn out war could be

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his only choice, aside from nukes/total war.

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