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Supreme Court of Brasil gave Elon 24 hours to reopen Twitters office in Brasil and appoint a legal representative or they will block Twitter in Brasil
Aug 29, 2024 7:49 PM
turbolento4r1v2000
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Supreme Court of Brasil gave Elon 24 hours to reopen Twitters office in Brasil and appoint a legal representative or they will block Twitter in Brasil
dixxienormus
Harry Viderchi.
rainbowsandunicorns575
Can Canada block this ass too please?
laserfork
Funny how when Turkey or some other authoritarian country want political opponents blocked on Twitter he's more than happy to enforce their censorship because hey, gotta follow the law. But here's a court ordering something and now suddenly he's the free speech warrior who'll never back down.
Zulu01
Block twitter everywhere. Nobody loses anything of worth.
CoarseAndSalty
"Send someone to face charges for propping up a right-wing rebellion or we'll cut your wires."
SolarFlaair
When you are a billionaire you have a silly idea that you are more important than other people and you can do what ever you please. Then when someone corrects him, he loses it!
Neurisko
Bluesky is getting record traffic. Big increase from Brazil.
DocBeeblebrox
jonReremy9669
okay good
billymaditsdone
Is there a live timer somewhere? That would be fun
SecretAgentSuperBooger
DeanGulberri1
HowlingRollercoaster2
SteveMND
I'm fine with this. That means we've also recently got an influx of Brazilians onto Bluesky this week, and that means an awful lot more of "Brazilian Miku" artwork floating around on the platform. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/brazilian-miku
warpfactor1
GenshiV
MendoncycleSmith
That, my friend, is the perfect level of stupid I needed at the end of a long day, cheers!
psmith00
Brazil may have just gone up a notch in my list of retirement countries. :-)
DerpMeister
"Brazil continued to have one of the highest levels of inequality in the world." https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/americas/south-america/brazil/report-brazil/
lackinglife
I think Brazil's like the 6th biggest twitter base so that isn't an idle threat. But him ignoring it would also be in line with his efforts to drive straight into the ground
srsfaceI8C
It's the 7th largest country in the world so that tracks. Brazil is a great country nobody in America or Europe seems to pay any attention to but I love the Brazilian people. They're pretty awesome. Great steakhouses too.
bippityboppitybuttsex
Oh no, how will the Crypto scams on Twitter reach their suckers?
Vergenbuurg
Muskrat's loss is Bluesky's gain. I mean, even as a Bluesky user, it won't directly benefit me, but the platform will see a boost.
vegivamp
It's a shame bluesky isn't compatible with the fediverse. Although, maybe that's exactly why Suckerberg wants his offering to be compatible - bluesky is too much of a threat.
psmith00
and all of this just to stop the Twitter user from tracking his private jet?
MrE158
No, Brazilian court demanded message info related to attacks on their capital post-election (in line with Brazilian law), Twitter refused.
lackinglife
People were also shitting on him which was just too mean
aNamelessCreature
And let's not forget that destabilizing a major communications venue was very probably what he had in mind in the first place when he bought it
DarthVella
Oh no, he was almost for sure trying a pump-and-dump with Twitter stock. Remember, he tried to back out of the deal and had to be forced by a court to honor it. If he's not actually braindead and he's actually trying to drive it into the ground now, it's opportunism.
lackinglife
That's an interesting read on the situation. I read it as his ego writing checks in the moment that he didn't want people cashing. Remember he was absolutely furious people were dunking on him on Twitter. That and his buddies kept getting banned for breaking terms.
He has repeatedly shown he jumps in blind to things any time his ego gets hurt. The same ego that makes him an "expert on everything". It seemed more like halfway through he realized he shit the bed but it was too late
DarthVella
That could be the case as well, in fairness. I may have been a bit strong in my previous comment. I based my estimation off of his previous behaviour regarding stocks, back when I had a slightly higher estimation of his competence... but now I think about it, there's a lot of dissonance between why I thought he did certain things and what is widely known about him now.
lackinglife
Yea you kind of had to follow it a bit to know he was mental before he bought twitter, once he did that he kind of let the cat out of the bag. I followed tech and knew he didn't know shit about anything he talked about. In the groups who knew the stuff his interviews were just crazy, all buzzwords.
RayneOfSalt
He also really, really wanted to be blatantly transphobic after Grimes hooked up with Chelsea Manning and his daughter came out, but while he didn't own the site he couldn't cos he'd get banned. And muskrat desperately needs the attention and adoration his sycophantic fans give him.
rshini
Brazilians have been flocking to Bluesky in anticipation of this.
felipeg7
I hate elon as much as the next guy but
am Brazilian
never heard of Bluesky
samwyze
Is the Sega Mega Drive still big there?
felipeg7
I dont think so? considering like everyone i know... i think some people have playstation 2 and a few have old gameboys, otherwise just new consoles (mainly PC)
samwyze
So it's finally over. It had a good run. I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did.
smashpro1
Or is it still the Master System?
samwyze
I remember the Master System zapper being used to hold someone hostage a decade ago.
Kittensandyarns
So, pissing off the Ukrainians by threatening to take away Starlink access, pissing off all the Swedish Trade Unions by not complying with Swedish collective bargaining practice, and now pissing off the Brazilian government by not following their laws.
How many countries is Musk planning to piss off? All of them, or just the democracies? Because he seems to be censoring dissident tweets as soon as a dictatorship even looks at him funny.
Dimestream
And he's letting the Turkish government enable censorship controls in Turkiye. Free speech central, everybody.
abbiistabbii
Musk and Twatter played a role in the riots in England and Northern Ireland in July and I really think the UK should drag that fucker in front of parliament at the very least.
lurkingforeternity
The Germans as well,
Draining a ton of ground water in a water scarce area in Berlin, and then polluting it with 3x of the allowed toxins
00LimaRomeo
Could you talk more about this incident, please?
vegivamp
Yeah, more details, please - I'm nextdoor in Belgium and have not heard of this.
CiaranMcHale
Bollocks. https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-giga-berlin-sets-record-straight-water-consumption/
Kittensandyarns
There's an unbiased source /S
CiaranMcHale
Rather than dismiss it out of hand, why don't you find a credible source that contradicts the article.
Kittensandyarns
I didn't make the original claim, but I am still able to see that an "article" written by Tesla themselves, saying they haven't done anything wrong, is not a source. It's a propaganda piece.
"Trust us, we checked ourselves and found no wrongdoing" isn't the proof you think it is.
CiaranMcHale
The Swedish IF Metall union tried to impose itself upon Tesla's workforce, the majority of which did not want to be part of that union, so IF Metall forced a strike (I think only about 5% of Tesla employees joined the strike), and then unionized employees at some other companies boycotted Tesla in whatever ways they could. IF Metall was in the wrong on this issue, and its practices were called illegal by a union in, I think, Germany.
Kittensandyarns
The collective bargaining (CB) principle has been a fact in Sweden since 1938. Do business in Sweden? You better follow that. The government has no say regarding salaries or conflicts.
Unlike some other nations, you don't need to have a minimum number of workers to be a union or enforce CB. The number of union members has increased, even though Tesla has tried to interfere with the worker's constitutional right of association (very illegal).
Kittensandyarns
Organised sympathy actions by other Unions (not members "boycotting Tesla") are because Tesla has punished workers with withholding perks (illegal), threatening union workers with termination (extremely illegal), and flying in scabs from abroad (against the CB agreement from 1938).
Sorry, but neither US nor German law applies here.
Sweden has very few strikes and conflicts, precisely because of CB. Short-sighted companies (mostly US based) seem to have trouble seeing that fact.
CiaranMcHale
My understanding is that the CB is used in the majority of Swedish companies, but it is not a legal requirement. IF Metall is trying to force CB upon Tesla, *despite* the majority of Tesla employees not wanting it. You appear to be saying that if a tiny fraction of employees in a company want CB, then that can be legally imposed upon the majority of employees who do not want it. That strikes me as bizarre. Do you have a source to confirm it?
Kittensandyarns
You don't get it.
Conflict between employer and union isn't regulated in the law, but in the Saltsjöbad agreement of 1938 (google it) where it's stated that the members of the Employer's Assoc. and the Unions are to negotiate the terms and conditions on the Swedish job market for their respective members.
Conflict tools such as strikes, lockouts, or sympathy actions, are all regulated there, to protect both employer and worker. 1/?
Kittensandyarns
CB is a tool to create equal terms for companies. A company can't outcompete their competitors by only offering slave wages.
Any accusations of violations of the Saltsjöbad agreement are settled in the Worker's Court (Arbetsdomstolen), which is NOT under the justice department.
Tesla wants the protection of the agreement without extending that protection to their workers. That won't fly here. 2/?
vegivamp
Threatening? I thought he actually did cut their starlink access?
CiaranMcHale
No. Musk originally offered free Starlink access for (if I remember correctly) 6 months. The war lasted longer than that. Various organizations, including SpaceX, kept funding Ukraine's use of Starlink, and Ukraine's usage of Starlink grew significantly. Eventually, Musk said that the ongoing costs to SpaceX were not sustainable, and he asked for the US government/military to cover's SpaceX's ongoing costs.
vegivamp
And yet... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/08/world/europe/elon-musk-starlink-ukraine.html
CiaranMcHale
That article is based on an anecdote in a biography of Musk. Musk said that anecdote was inaccurate. In essence, the biographer claimed Musk turned off Starlink service in a partiular region, but Musk says Starlink service had never been enabled for the area in question & Ukrainian military had mistakenly assumed it had been.
CiaranMcHale
This tweet clarifies the issue (from both Musk and his biographer): https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1700345943105638636
vegivamp
You'll have to excuse me for not believing musk when he says he didn't do the shitty thing.