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Observationsofidiocy
These comments are gonna be gold
dayzgonebye
THIS.
flacoloco
AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC...
ExileonDaytonStreet
Domestic terrorism
AldoElMago
As someone born and raised in a dictatorship, this should scare everyone. Wake up America.
Jackboot77
...and most weren't mothers
StarscreamAndHutch
#WeThePeople
igotadream5
Insulting to anyone who has worn the uniform
IrishAmericanMisfit
Wow, so brave... beating up women. I guess it makes a nice change from beating their wife at home.
Shargan8
40%
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
When you don't have the courage to tell your wife, "Honey, I think we should beat other people" but then your job hands you a perfect excuse
gthomp006002
These hands rated E
SeRaQt
Nothing more than THUGS in Camo Uniform wearing Gas Masks. Wielding Batons and Pepper Spray.
UnitedGalactic
This is what makes Conservatives sexually aroused. Facism is always their end game.
thedarkness2005
I did enjoy the Honorable Mark Esper speaking how he didn't like police looking like police.
ThyDevilsAdvocate
TSA agents with guns
ImDepGiraffeSmasher
I think it’s proper to use non lethal tools to disperse large groups. Large groups of angry people are dangerous to both sides.
PeriDiane
Remember when the term was "peace officer"?
Observationsofidiocy
Yep, or public safety. Now theyre law enforcement. That's where we've lost our way.
NotAPervert
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
leodavinci1
The only thing missing is a swastika.
Goddamnitmisterrnoodle
Goddamnitmisterrnoodle
Awwwwe, look at all the badge bunnies downvoting. Does this mean you have to do real police work now??
sgnight13
Justapartofyourimagination
I'm never really offended by much ever but, cops wearing our damn uniforms pisses me off to an extent I can't really put into words
Cheomesh
Now we are the "Indigs".
ZoidbergIsGreat
Of course. They didn't earn that uniform...
caliegh48899
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RVlMGRgLhE
caliegh48899
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Justchillindylan
I know for a fact that more than one of them are veterans
choochoo100
More like one fifth: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2017/03/30/when-warriors-put-on-the-badge
Justchillindylan
I’m actually join my local PD because I’m tired of bad cops so I figured why complain of I can try and make a change, I never knew it was
Justchillindylan
Such a high ratio though
RickyTickyB
I’d love to see a bunch of Marines go toe to toe with these guys.
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
REMINDER:
HellYeti
Are you shitting me? Is this really in the US?
Cheomesh
This is America.
Gestalt7
Yep. That's a navy vet they are beating and gassing. He challenged them to remember their oaths to protect the constitution.
cecilryegate
This is taking place right now, in multiple places in the US. Of course it's not in the news. The media is controlled by 6 conglomerates.
Zyrixion
It is.
justsomeinternetperson
Arm yourselves! This is literally what the 2nd Amendment is about!
Cheomesh
Yeah, that'll end well.
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
The thing we've learned from this? Many folks who've claimed to need guns for this very thing, DON'T CARE it's happening to fellow Americans
JPre35
Well the other thing is the ones that "DO CARE" want to stop you from defending yourself. At least one side agrees you can defend yourself.
AlexisActually
Excuse me but if you go far enough left you absolutely get your guns back.
Skywatcher16
cept they dont. im a pro-gun control democrat. i OWN a gun. as does my step father and easily half my friends.
JPre35
If you are for gun control then you are for the government taking arms in situations.like this. I.E. CONTROL
Skywatcher16
no. that is your, rather narrow minded, presumtion. not the reality of the matter. as i am living proof of.
LieselSkywalker
CorswainOfTheFirst
No we fucking are not. Please send armed help so we can have some fucking freedom.
johnnieActshun
Doesn’t feel like ok.
CookieMonsterr
PoliticalWanderer
sgnight13
No. Send help
TeddyMoment
We're pretty fuckin far from ok.
getotterhere
gobhoblin
Straight up not havin a good time, bro.
dumpsterjedi1
I'm fine. Thanks for asking
choochoo100
Most people are fine. Antisocial basement dwellers on social medial do not represent the majority of us.
trshalishaska0
AstralDebris
TobiOfTheAkatsuki
Exterminate us before our stupid becomes an invasive species; please.
MeSoErnie
Unfortunately it's about 70-80 years too late for that...
ballpeenX
If you are a douche bag trying to burn down a Federal courthouse and pretending to be a "peaceful protester" then Fuck you.
UnitedGalactic
CiGr
They didn't try to burn down the concrete courthouse full of armed troops. They made a trash bon fire outside but within perimeter fence.
qixx23
Clearly you missed the molotov cocktails and firework launchers aimed at the building. Go see those vids.
bicuriositykilledthiscat
If you're an ass that values property over rights/civil movement to change the systemic racism & classism held up at that courthouse then FU
ballpeenX
Lol. Somebody’s going to get laid in college
bicuriositykilledthiscat
I'm 35 with 4 kids, the oldest is 13. I get laid. Not as often as I'd like w/ 4 kids.. but I'm good.
Shargan8
You are trying to argue with people who are ok with slavery, racism and fascism, but get butthurt over inanimate fucking objects.
TheMentallyillist
My point was no courthouse has been burned. But US citizens are being murdered by cops, snatched off streets by anonymous feds, 1/2
TheMentallyillist
And dying by tens of thousands so that Trump can try to hold on to power. Who gives a shit about a building? You are a fraud.
qixx23
Clearly you missed the molotov cocktails and firework launchers aimed at the building. Go see those vids.
hardhart
They aren't soldiers, they're cops. There's a gargantuan difference, and they need to remember that.
manbearpig4
They’re cunts
Itsonporpoise
Who the f is downvoting this? Cops that wish they were military? Tear gas salesmen?
EvilAbedsBoneSaw
They aren't cops. They aren'tt PDX police that's for damn sure. The best I can call them is Secret Police for hire but really they are thugs
EllEzDee
Where the fuck are the soldiers then? The lauded defenders of democracy. Where's the national guard to turn these fuckers running?
scribethemad
I recall someone mentioned they thought Oregon's national guard might have at least a fair chunk deployed overseas? Seems odd to me though
KungofBees
And like all fake soldiers they are dressed up like they think they're SO. Got everything down pat except the courage and training.
choochoo100
A fifth of cops are ex military: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2017/03/30/when-warriors-put-on-the-badge
KungofBees
I know. Plenty of fobbits don't get their combat wank dreams realized and they get upset, so they get out to try and shoot people here. Lol.
DraxCleveland
It's been some time since I heard someone called a fobbit ?
jeanyx
They arent cops. Cops have the illusion of public accountability. These are hostile paramilitary soldiers.
cepacolusmaximus
And this right here is exactly why you do not militarize your cops!
glamdring1
They seem to be the worst of both worlds really. All the gear, none of the training.
naahz
then call it paramilitary, the technicality doesn't matter. Whether its stolen valor or intimidation those uniforms need to be taken away.
heroesblood
I love all the angry right-winger downvotes. In before "the cities are burning." Which they aren't.
KingofDucks1990
Can we start mocking their stupid military cosplay outfits while also being outraged?
Ninjainslippers
I'm fairly certain these pictures depict private contractors hired by Homeland Security. Not cops, not military.
Pooprocketpower
They're customs and border protection, last i heard from Portland reporters
Ninjainslippers
Te latest reporting is that it's contractors from Department of Homeland Security.
Ninjainslippers
Coincidentally, I live in NW Washington and had a DHS helicopter fly very low and erratic in a neighborhood last night.
immortalbucket
Aren’t cops either. Just Eric Prince goons sucking that Barr tiny cock
CiGr
I'm going to need some sauce on that.
EvilAbedsBoneSaw
Seen them in person. These guys aren't trained cops. They are wearing mismatched camo w/ slapped FED labels in fucking minivans.
NightfallEverdark
They aren't even cops. They are Corrections staff who have only ever dealt with inmates (against whom the force justification is lower)
StarkRG
They're not even that, they're border patrol who're allowed to operate within 100 miles of a coast or border, but NOT for what they're doing
Splinthar
If that top picture is from Seattle they are Eric Prince's mercenaries for hire. So neither.
Pooprocketpower
Portland. They're customs and border protection. Obama's law made it legal for them to snatch anyone within 100 miles of a border
crazyspelling
Where do you think Portland is? It's 250+ miles from the closest border.
Pooprocketpower
I didn't order them there, not for me to answer! I think they're using the ocean as the border.
Metalbawkses
Got some tasty sauce on that?
superdupertrooper
Jeh Johnson, Obama's DHS secretary, told MSNBC they were mostly contractors, not officers. I'll look for the sauce
FlissFloss86Gaming
Who is Eric Prince? Also most of the camo'd thugs are CBP
Metalbawkses
Former CEO of blackwater.
Cats2cats
It has been said on this site a lot of them are hired mercenaries.
EvilAbedsBoneSaw
I've seen them in person. I've talked with my friends who are cops as well as my partner's kid who's a protester. They are not PDX police.
Metalbawkses
Said alot, but I haven't seen any legitimate sources.
SMB42
Right. I'm guessing this is all black flag ops so people will be happy when the "normal" police take over. People are easy to control
missusboom
A lot of them havent been trained that way. Our police have been militarized for years now. This is exactly what we were afraid to become.
SubtleOrc
The police are militarized to cope with the ridiculous level of gun violence. You wont fix this wrong until you deal with the guns
Observationsofidiocy
Partially true. The US has far more gun violence than any other nation, but police deaths to guns is a tiny part of LOD deaths.
ImgurMadeMeChangeMyNameCauseItsDumb
48 last year out of 700,000 cops
minqapoc
You're wrong. I hate the american gun-fetish just as much, but "gun violence" wasn't the reason for that shit.
TheToiletnator
Completely wrong. It was the "War on Drugs" that did it. That thing a certain presidential candidate did in the 90s.
leodavinci1
Nope. Never the reason. If that amount of violence had existed Governors would have had the National Guard patrolling streets.
SubtleOrc
"well we can't do anything about the gun violence" says only first world country struggling with out of control gun violence
macthelost
Our government is turning tyrant AS WE SPEAK! And you think the appropriate response is to remove the only defense against that? Well, >
Angmoh
Militarized in equipment only. Theres no standardised training to be a cop. At least in the mil. you go through basic training
Observationsofidiocy
True, but many departments also hire alot of ex-military and don't really train them to be cops and not soldiers.
kilgoth1
This. Equipment only. Some of them MIGHT be x-military, but most of them wouldnt pass boot camp.
macthelost
Don’t you fucking dare put cops on the same level as military training. We have LOAC rules and literally every single thing cops have been >
macthelost
Doing is contrary to military training. I can’t shoot unless shot at first, I cannot use rubber rounds, I cannot use chemical weapons>
macthelost
These fucking cops should be hung in Geneva for their crimes against humanity. They don’t deserve to be called “militarized”
altonbrowndeserveshisownmemefuckyouifyoudisagree
Yeah! And we have to do like a million CBTs on stuff like “dont leave your CAC laying around” and “what if Tina tries to give pirated music”
TheBurritoConfederacy
Random thought: I think we should stop calling our cops militarized. Say it like it really is: They're radicalized.
sleepinggreenidea
macthelost
This 100%. To be militarized is to have integrity and honor, bravery, and meet all force with the appropriate level.
Imhereforthelurking
To be militarized would be Heinleins Star Ship Troopers without zerg expy aliens.
macthelost
You aren’t getting it. I am a vet, I was “militarized”’meaning I was taught honor, integrity, service, bravery, and respect. Cops aren’t
TheInfiniteUnknown
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses.
missusboom
You are correct. I will adjust my language going forward.
TheRealAlpharius
If we do not fight the Gestapo and reclaim our streets, we do not deserve to be called Americans.
xj4low
Again. Fighting is what trump wants. Easier to stir the pot and suppress votes in nov with martial law in areas he knows he cant win.
TheRealAlpharius
Appeasement didn't work out well for Europeans the first time, it's not going to work out now
hotroddadbod
AmNateTheGreat
I see alot of talk but still waiting... I'm as ready as ill ever be for this shit show.
alyoshenka23
Down-voters fuck you. We need to stop this bullshit. I think shooting back with live rounds is acceptable. We need to protect our liberty
wdfields685772
So you gonna step up and fire the first live round then? Keep in mind they might fire back with live rounds too and have government support
BoogalooBadger
Not just the Gestapo, you need to remove the orange turd fanning the flames too. Remember to register to vote.
iusedtodream
And all his little dipshits, too.
EccentricNimoy
He will win again through the "popular" vote, since the supreme court just made it so a candidate can win that way
Rektastic
"again" implies he won like that the first time, which he didn't
shitheadtookmyname
No they didn't. You're drinking some janky ass koolaid.
311WasAnInsideJob
I missed that, could you elaborate?
BoogalooBadger
Nothing like giving up before the fat lady sings right? Come on! Twist the arms of everyone you know to vote the moron out.
Michaels365
Especially in Texas! It’s a toss up now. Get people registered. Can’t register online. Here’s the rules:
Michaels365
Texas registration rules: https://www.votetexas.gov/register-to-vote/where-to-get-an-application-2.html
FunkyHandsMcgee
"First they came for the communists, but I did not speak out because I wasn't a communist."
dumpsterjedi1
Communists aren't people.
ThatsNotMyDadThatsACellPhone
Have you actually ever researched what true communism is? In theory, it sounds nice. No soc. classes, everyone shares and gets wht they need
dumpsterjedi1
Completely denies biology and human motivation.
FunkyHandsMcgee
So I guess you don't know how the rest of that quote goes. Are jews not people either?
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TheRealAlpharius
You've definitely never read it lol
sgnight13
dumpsterjedi1
DeepAnalTongue
Either humour and you forgot the "/s". Or dumb repeating of dogma which you don't understand.
dumpsterjedi1
SensitiveShiori
disagreeing with someones politics, is no reason to call a group of individuals "not people"
Logwarrior999
Then everything got better when they were all hung. The end.
FunkyHandsMcgee
Yeah, go brush up on the history of the quote becuase it's basically meant for people who think like yourself.
Logwarrior999
I'm quite familiar with the quote.
ddmmyyyy
I take it you're commenting on your way out the door then, right?
TheRealAlpharius
I don't know why you're getting downvoted, it was a good and legitimate question.
ddmmyyyy
Gobshites stick together.
HeyArabella
I think people took it as a "love it or leave it" comment, rather than a "going out the door to protest" comment.
TheRealAlpharius
I'm protesting every weekend in Baltimore. They're not here yet but I guarantee they will be.
ddmmyyyy
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FrankieWi1de
What are you protesting for? What are your goals? Genuinely curious
TheRealAlpharius
There are lots of small local goals- for instance, Baltimore City PD is actually controlled by the county, which is a huge problem.
Asciiman
I am told Americans have a lot of guns that exist for this very reason.... kinda waiting for someone to get tired of being bullied by... 1/2
Asciiman
.... unmarked and unidentified police. Sounds like the whole 2nd ammendment exists for this very reason. 2/2
Robnodner
Our rural friends with said arsenals and anyone else who is a true American needs to stand up for the bullied we have here at home.
iusedtodream
Understand: we cross that line and we are in civil war.
Asciiman
War seems like it has already been made, all that is left is how people respond to it.
alyoshenka23
I agree. Screw the federals. We need to make new unions with like-minded states. Fuck Washington DC. This is the Wild West.
GreyKnightTemplar666
There's other ways to fight back other than violence. Those mother's sent a a very strong message chanting "hands up please don't shoot us"
CakeShapedPie
Notice the armed march at stone mountain didnt get tear gassed
IEatYourSombrero
Give me a break, the civil rights and the independence movement in India, classical examples of non violent protest had violence in them-
IEatYourSombrero
They've just been whitewashed by history. Both required the use of force and the threat of escalation.
LurkerMcLurkface
Ghandi started building nukes all of a sudden!
TheRealAlpharius
And it's saved exactly zero other people. We're in this together, fuck your posturing.
FrankieWi1de
The gestapo did not release the people they rounded up... It's fucked what they are doing but let's be real here
Michaels365
So when exactly is the right moment to begin resisting a police state? We see the direction this President is heading.
CakeShapedPie
No, they released some. They also made sure the ones they didnt release couldn't speak out again.
WTiger102
But how do you know they released everyone currently? That’s the point behind undocumented disappearings, no record to show thy let all go
TChallaVanDam
Good point. Lack of transparency and lack of accountability are what are missing here that make this whole situation so shady.
Bonesy84
It’s baby steps. It didn’t start with disappearing people. It never does. It’s always just enough that people don’t get too mad.
number14
What no response Frankie?
ImHereToGetDownvotes
It's a no win situation. If people fight back they'll just use it as justification for what they're doing.
TChallaVanDam
Absolutely.
BoogalooBadger
Probably the best way to make him squeal is do nothing, literally, general strike, money is their weak point.
kaldrax
I don't get it. How does being female and having children make these people different from anybody else?
Stanistani
Apparently, on your planet, your species reproduces by budding off a new asshole.
kaldrax
Also, why would a mom write "I'm a mommy" on a sign and then go join a protest where they could get shot by rubber bullets or teargassed?
kaldrax
Obviously they support the protest enough to risk themselves, so the mom thing's probably to sway public opinion.
kaldrax
It's a smart tactic
SuddenlySarah
Its about presentation and manipulation. To paint the "protesters" as innocent and peaceful, law enforcement as evil aggressors. They
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SuddenlySarah
Cool non sequitur bro!
SuddenlySarah
omit that the protesters were peacefully trying to breach the building and light it on fire. The feds responded to drive the crowd back.
Battle4ngel
Some people (esp. conservatives, ironically) tend to portray women as the weaker sex needing protection, and having kids = a sort of honor.
Battle4ngel
Though tbf it probably does mean that things are bad when a class of people not usually known for political activism goes outdoors like this
kaldrax
Hmm I've always seen women as being capable of standing up for themselves. But yeah you're right.
Battle4ngel
Ah, I didn't want to insinuate against you, apologies if it came out wrong.
kaldrax
Not at all! You're speaking your mind, and I fully support that
kaldrax
In fact this is a perfect example of women being strong. They're facing down feds. That shows a lot of strength!
LickFury
Has anyone turned up from the nameless military no license plate van kidnappings? Or are those people still missing? Just a curious Canadian
JesaraB
Most have been held for several hours then released because they had nothing to charge them with.
ekzeko
From what I understand, they need to charge them with federal crimes, which need grand-jury indictment, which requires a certain burden-
ekzeko
of proof. So they identify perpetrators on camera, and then capture them shortly after wearing the same stuff to get the indictment. I just-
ekzeko
don't know why they chose to do it in a capture of the street manner. It seems so clear that it will enrage the pop further.
Mack1986
Most were released in a few hours. Sim were held longer and charged
Orthy
People have been held and released. DHS has made official statements
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
Oh, well, they wouldn't lie about the people kidnapped by the no license plate van armed forces they sent.
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
(But even I doubt they've actually permanently kidnapped anyone)
TheDuke0fHazzard
Show me a van that didn't have plates. Genuinely curious, because I haven't seen that anywhere
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
I was repeating the phrasing from before word for word. The problem has always been about them not being marked, IIRC. Sorry if that was
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
presented as the truth, that wasn't my intention.
OrionRed
Heard an interview on NPR about one. They didn't even call it an arrest, which is CLEARLY was.
OrionRed
The lawyers showed up and told the toy soldiers they had to let the guy go.
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
Portlanders are reporting it's catch, photo and print, and release. Doubles as both intimidation and testing the waters to see what the
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
corn-fed SS can get away with.
NotAPervert
Did you come up with Corn-fed SS because I’d wanna use it again
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
To my knowledge I did. You can have it, I got more
NotAPervert
*pulls out notepad*
JAPONfan
It was kind obvious for few years USA don't have police. Just internal military.
FallenJester
I guess hindsight is 2020.
Xedi22
No, radicalized police. Military implies training, standards, and rules of engagement. My MP brother quickly bailed to FD in civie life.
strideo
Both the Dems and Republicans have introduced police reform bills but they're fighting over which one gets passed. The two bills agree on 1/
strideo
around 80% of the issues but instead of a bi partisan compromise to help us and debating over the rest later they'd rather do nothing and 2/
strideo
keep blaming each other for it. We've seen this happen for so many issues in the past too. Gotta hold everyone hostage for that last bit 3/3
HCBailly
That's how politics works. Promise everything, do nothing to avoid offending the moderates, and blame the opposition for it not happening.
sgnight13
I prefer the term "state-sponsored bandits in uniform"
smharris46466
The military is held to a much higher legal and ethical standard than the police are. We aren't allowed to treat actual terrorists 1/2
smharris46466
The way they treat American citizens.
Nalianna
infernal ?
imadaargon
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/the-man-who-teaches-our-cops-63257870/
justtruth
Policie militarization happened in the 90s when they started banning weapons and equipping officers.
Muskie4242
I mean... if you believe everything you see on imgur...
Ttoften
You'd have to come up with a better name than that... Adolf had his Stasi, what will Trumpet have?
AnimalGenetaliaAudioClues
Music stands
BonoboBoBoNobo
The Scum.
ErikLehnsherrWasRight
COD Cosplay. Cosplay Of Duty.
bananagrabbr
Orange Crush
CoughSuppressant
DrPhillipMahmoufWifarts
Ooohhhh ova heah...the Stasi was East Germany! The Nazis had the Gestapo and the SD...
bluefisherking
StormTrumpers
BoogalooBadger
sPeCiAl sQuAd
MyHemroidsAreAngry
The Cheeto Puffs
CaldariBob
Das Drumpfettes. That's right. America's secret police will be know as the Double Dees!
MushroomFiend
Hitler had the brown-shirts, Mussolini had the Black-shirts, Trump's Green-shirts?
dillanb
Na, sounds too eco-friendly for Trump’s liking
FlyingTigerRose
Orange shirts. The best, highest quality. Best in the world, I read that somewhere... No, really. I dunno...
CountAiight
Trumpeteers?
greenchair
Trumpettes
GurkyMcGurk
Adolf had the Gestapo. Stasi was the Intelligence of Eastern Germany until the end of the 80s
BuddyTheAlion
I’m surprised the allies allowed Germany to have an intelligence program after the war.
ekzeko
Oh jesus christ... ok. From the top: Nazi german= Gestapo Communist Eastern Germany= Stazi. Allied controlled germany was split in 3 until
ekzeko
1954 and they didn't set up any kind of federal police force before then. They then were allowed to create an intelligence organ.
shitheadtookmyname
EatstGermany was just an extension of the Soviet Union. The Stasi was kind of kgb in Germany. Except there was also KGB in Germany
Leaveittojebus
Massive numbers of spies, collaborators and informants 1 in every 6 citizens were watching and snitching on the other 5.
Spagget
That's where Putin got his start
BaklavaMatatas
Banaaaaanen für die Ossiiiiiis ..
ekzeko
Stasi was more like a KGB with german efficiency. The soviets couldn't have gotten the same results at home.
regicidalveggie
Spies to spy on the spies that spy on the people that have been recruited to spy
Mack1986
For the millionth time. These guys never were soldiers.
ChalkCoatedDonut
Some were or are, they're on the same line of doing it because their education was a poorly chosen sports tuition.
katolu
You're being down voted by the sad, limp-dick cos-players.
ScrotusFezziwig
Would be nice if the actual soldiers spoke up
ButterLube
They're pussies roleplaying as dildos
Triumphtt600
They aren’t even police. Their thugs with a license from trump to do what ever they want
AldoElMago
Can the actual soldiers speak up and send a message to the country?
robofuck
They masturbate to the idea of being fucking GI Joe every goddamn day though.
Silnt39
Oh come on. Call of duty counts!
thelonepig
This literally says they're not soldiers.
theonewholurksabout
As a veteran these assholes never served
Khikik
But now they are traitors
TeddyMoment
They're playing dress up.
Lethous
They even have IR/GLINT flag at the helmet, seems silly to have in a city with all that ambient light.
TeddyMoment
And what the fuck is the desert camo supposed to accomplish in Portland?
blaghart
Well, like you said, it makes them look like big tough soldiers. Their beerguts poking out from under their vests ruin it a bit tho.
MrJosh232
Then they're terrorists, where are the soldiers??
KidneyBeene
Watching the shit go down. You recall the whole "gonna take your guns" "reeducation camp" yapping done by Beto and his ilk? Yeah. Watching.
rifte0201
The local police unions are taking volunteers to play dress up. These are the people we're seeing play out their war fantasies
CodeWarrior
I don't know. I know some of the guys I served with who were in it just for the opportunity to hurt or kill people. I could see them there.
SaintCin
Actually these BORTAC guys are all pretty high speed low drag door kickers. They are mostly former sof guys w/ tons of experience.
naahz
I definitely think some are vets, but I doubt your assertion based on the use of the word "mostly" due to border patrol reputation as a job
SaintCin
I'm referring to just BORTAC as being former SF guys. BP in general, different story.
8hourgamer
some of them were Navy as well.
EnterPlayer3
Most likely some were.
RuListning
Wearing the US military uniform and presenting yourself as one is a felony, I really hope this plays out as the atrocity it is.
seanmccorkle
Nor are they patriots
gcHatMan10
It never says they were? It says they think they are cuz they dress like them
inmotherrussia
Tacticool highschool jocks with an inferiority complex and small willies. They would never survive real military action or service.
Blonkybunyip
Reading is hard
Caffynated
And those aren't "moms". Reporters who cover riots say they're the same rioters who have been there and were even participating in violence.
Caffynated
Here's a video of a "mom" trying to kick in the door of a federal building. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1285549368125186051
papalongshlong
Well I guess that means we should gas all the moms, not the ones actually trying to destroy property
CaldariBob
It's the only way to be certain.
CaptCrobar
Sir I believe your pants are a flame.
Caffynated
The "moms" are wearing matching yellow shirts. Now watch the video and count middle aged women in matching yellow shirts.
DoctorGonzo37
Pardon me, I believe you dropped this bag of Bullshit.
Musicosity
fmcmp
Please, please, please don’t call them military.
sleepinggreenidea
The most accurate term here is paramilitary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramilitary
MarcUK
Not even real cops/feds/marshalls. They're hired security contractors.
albertawings2020
Mercenaries
chuyin84
We who serve/served are held to a strict standard! A standard that should apply to all law enforcement! What’s happening is bullshit!!!
blaghart
A standard so strict that the military keeps covering up rapes and murderers perpetrated by their soldiers.
funkinsk8
I’m curious where those who took the oath are in times like this. Not call you out or anyone else. Just curious what weight that holds.
chuyin84
It’s heavy, but we have about as much authority as you, so it’s a tough spot to be in
hEaDb3ntOv3rRaisEth3PostEriOr
Not bullshit, but the beginning of a dictatorship
sleepinggreenidea
Please, let's be realistic. I'm sure there's more than a few vets in there.
Techpriest93
20-25% I think
Observationsofidiocy
For sure, or at least ex-military.
Mack1986
Ok without being autistically literal. I am referring to the fact that those on the streets right now are not soldiers or US Army
sleepinggreenidea
It's not "being autistically literal" to fail to take "these guys never were soldiers" to mean "these guys aren't soldiers now".
whydotheycometometodie
The US Military is constantly drilled & reminded that we can’t operate against US Persons. It’s part of our national law& our military regs
swimmingmonkey
I have military in my family who would happily knock liberal heads. (We don't speak)
SmartHasTheBrainsButStupidHasTheBalls
How about the Kent State Shooting?
bjo23
That's very likely one of the reasons WHY it's drilled into them.
CatilioPlaceresCannabicos
My country has the same law. We have had so many coups lead by military..they've killed more local citizens than foreign.
CatilioPlaceresCannabicos
So?
guy73378
That is 100% not true. Title 10 forces cannot be used in law enforcement without certain conditions but they can be used against /
guy73378
Us citizens in other capacities, like any other role. Putting down a rebellion, building walls, etc. And there are hundreds of exceptions
guy73378
To the posse comitatus act. Like if a magistrate says "hey do this" boom exception. Or if it involves enforcing quarantined federal or state
sleepinggreenidea
Yes, and? The US military is also drilled & reminded not to engage in sexual assault, use drugs, or drive while intoxicated. Plenty still do
Scarfaceeightsix
You are disgusting if you think the military would attack American civilians. Plenty? A small percentage.
Djsocar
Humans am i right??
cuzitsthere
Idk, man... I've done some fucked up shit during and after service but... I couldn't do this. It's hard to explain (thanks to you bringing..
cuzitsthere
Up sexual assault, now this sounds terrible.) But this is so different. Again, ignoring the sexual assault bit, excessive drinking and drugs
rdbcruzer
Oof. That hit hard. Who hurt you?
sleepinggreenidea
Served in military corrections and military justice. It was more than enough to erase blind faith in my peers. There are good and bad there.
PanEdaCat
Also military personnel are constantly reminded of their *constitutional* oath, which is important bc they can disobey an order from a 1:
PanEdaCat
Superior if they feel that it violates the constitution, which all of this clearly fucking does. These are trash federal police officers.
crazymojomonkey
You might be shocked - Real soldiers are drilled with the idea of NEVER turning on the citizenry. I brought it up once and the soldier
heartlessninja6
I have had a lot of Iraq war vets tell me the exact opposite. 1 was fucked after killing kids on rooftops protecting their home from bandits
flarflarf
Derek Chauvin did two tours in the army.
Kronomoto
I was in the army, combat oriented MOS, this is not at all how any of my training was. If I was drilled anything it was SHARP lol
texasinja1718
Really? You never got ROEs drilled into you? did you ever get deployed or did you stay stateside. Not criticizing I just had a very
texasinja1718
different experience in the Marine Corps
wowzaassassin
What is SHARP?
Kronomoto
Sexual harassment/ assault response and prevention. Literally had a PowerPoint on that almost every week of training lol
choochoo100
A fifth of police officers are veterans: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2017/03/30/when-warriors-put-on-the-badge
whydotheycometometodie
Are these veterans with years of service & constant training, or are they guard or reserves with minimal sporadic familiarization?
sleepinggreenidea
Plenty of Servicemembers go in at 18, do a tour, and get out at 22-24 with minimal marketable job skills & a GI bill. LE is a tempting path.
Mack1986
Thats a stupid shitty summarizaiton and insult to the Reserves and National Guard
crazymojomonkey
I'm sure at least 1/5 the cops are 'good'
sleepinggreenidea
As an Army veteran - who worked as a paralegal in Military Corrections and Military Justice - there's plenty of selfish bullies & predators.
sleepinggreenidea
There are certainly many Servicemembers who have a very protective attitude towards civilians, but others don't care/feel superior to them.
Musicosity
Your POV has to be jaded, seeing as all you interacted with was scum.
sleepinggreenidea
I served along good and bad MPs, I deployed with good and bad IN. I saw units fuck over their incarcerated members HARD and often. So no.
crazymojomonkey
I was talking to literally had a lump in his throat talking about the military and it's relationship to the people. My question is - why
crazymojomonkey
can't we train the cops like that?
Insanejason
Police unions. That's why.
aface62
Because the local taxpayers would balk at the cost. That's the plain truth.
greenskullredcircle
TRAIN.... ?! COPS!? lol we’re lucky if we get ‘em with a GED and a few scout badges
Jarilye
Why *won't* we? I'm sure it's possible.
kenobijuan
Not enough punishment to train cops.
Wookiee54
It costs near $1 million to train soldiers plus the UCMJ aint no joke. The punishments for minor infractions can be half months pay forfited
whydotheycometometodie
You can. Create the Bill. Talk to your Members of Congress, county council, & city legislature. Have them create the laws.
BoopScoopZoop
Some cops are vets and believe those same values. Hell, some cops are still active NG.