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Sep 13, 2018 3:29 PM
RobertBraddock12
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MostLikelyNotWearingPants
I have a Jetfire, girlfriend must have been standing real close
T8umx
Gimme a 22lr. Low recoil, low noise.
Copperheadpossum
Gold
Skande
It's not about the size of the gun, it's how you use it. ;) ... Although shooting the ground might have been fine bears are bitches.
JustQuitIt
BlastingRopeToWaluigiHentai
I had two. Down to one. Awesome little thing.
dan10026
Bill Bure does a bit about using a .22 for home defense that’s pretty funny.
Excedrine
10MM Auto, .357 magnum, .44 magnum. Something powerful -- if you're going to shoot the bear itself.
waitwhat1234
Albertan here. Can confirm. Bears here are as common as spiders in Australia.
tomobach
Plot twist: she was already complaining about how small the caliber of his "weapon" was.
get0ffmylawn
postingpandas
BubblyBrigid
9mm.
alexisM8
I personally carry a Smith & Wesson 500 in bear country
BukkakeRider3000
MetaSomma
You dirty fucker
SirLucifer616
DMVanDarkholme
GuajiroGunpla
In his strong hand, the man held a rose...
Emonsta
Is that the PP7 from Golden Eye? Solid gun just needs a silencer
cpnbeeb
Looks more like a Beretta Tomcat.
LeumisRichardson
Beretta Jetfire... The picture is even captioned...
Cooper1977
I don't have to outgun the bear, I just have to outgun you.
justGeorge
Walking Dead... season 2?
onecowboytoo
Too soon.
NotAHugeSpider
Well, actually...
battery1979
I support the right to arm bears.
PhurbuMukpodom
DashingStache
https://giphy.com/gifs/machine-gun-SoDkgmgLQloZy
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DashingStache
https://giphy.com/gifs/murica-tomohawk-8qvCkmVaSdweA
liquidninja23
Except that handguns are restricted in Canada and you are not able to carry one unless you are law enforcement
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Trexel
Chicago has no conceal carry - how's that working out?
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joevair
MAGA!!!!!!
Salixer
I actually have a 950 jetfire and I love it!
LeumisRichardson
So old this particular firearm has been prohibited in Canada for decades now. ; ) That and no carry of loaded handguns in Canada period.
CascadianTwilight
Oh man if only, right?
GeorgeLever
What is the point of owning a handgun if you cannot keep it loaded? Are you going to ask the bear to wait to eat you whilst you load it?
LeumisRichardson
Handguns in Canada, with only a few exceptions, are purely for target shooting.
GeorgeLever
Maybe I'm too American here, but I feel like you're missing the point of owning a handgun.
LeumisRichardson
I get that. -In Canada-, the only -legal- purpose for handguns is target shooting, except for certain people (Bank guards for example).
LeumisRichardson
For example, you may not keep a handgun loaded in your own home even.
paulbloface
This person is wrong. To carry a handgun, you need a specific permit. It's almost impossible to get outside of people proving a need like1/2
paulbloface
working in remote areas where it also isn't practical for them to carry a long gun 24/7. Probably armoured truck companies too, not sure.2/2
LeumisRichardson
Indeed, I was corrected (and had also forgotten armoured car crew), but for virtually everyone else, no carry.
Arnoxthe1
Well, fuck Canada then.
baronnapalm
For what? Have reasonable gun laws?
Arnoxthe1
Gun laws banning guns across the board except in specific niche circles is not reasonable at all.
noReallyIamPrincessBob
Why not?
Arnoxthe1
There's a lot of different arguments why but the biggest one is definitely that it gives the government too much power over the people.
paulbloface
Not all of our laws are reasonable, it's really a mess of arbitrary standards and paperwork to those who actually need to deal with them.1/2
LeumisRichardson
Yea, I do have my… differences with certain parts of the CCC on that, especially "by order in council" but, -as a whole- our laws do well.
paulbloface
For example: you can buy a pump shotgun with an 8" barrel, but buying one with a 26" barrel then cutting it down is very illegal. 2/2
LeumisRichardson
I am curious about this 8" pump shotgun in Canada... Do tell.
baronnapalm
Oh I'm well aware many of our rules are terrible. Ex-military gun owner myself. It's a shit show. But open carry of handguns is ridiculous.
thisuserdoesnotexisthere
When you need a gun, any caliber is better than no caliber.
OrangeFlavours
Technically if you count airguns, not so much.
SalsaRice
Would it be wiser to shoot someone with a BB gun or just whack them with the BB gun?
PutShoeOnHead
i dont need a caliber when i need a glue gun.
HishuiTheSnake
I will let you use a 1 caliber rock without issue then!
idontneednostinkingpuffin
To all the downvoters...
B99Reactions
When you "need" a gun, you probably won't have one or it won't even matter
thisuserdoesnotexisthere
That's why I never leave home without it.
TheTechGuy007
Soul caliber?
MrSmilingDeath
*cough* 2mm Kolibri *cough*
BavarianGuy
Better than a .45 magnum. You shoot one time and now all you hear is a steady 8kHz beep while the attacker sneaks behind you to hit you with
MrSmilingDeath
But if you actually hit the attacker, they're not going to be an attacker for much longer.
BavarianGuy
a cowbell you couldn't hear.
Teasaurus
The one who shoots first gets the last word.
OhhhThatDawgOfMine
Except the one who misses
Psymon100
Easy there Greedo
oddballbrandon89
TheodoreJDetweiler
Sometimes I shoot prematurely
CantThinkOfUsernameWhyNotZoidberg
You made me giggle in the middle of my class
Powersurge261
Yes
RPCharImages
Reminds me of a line from a 40k book...."A 9mm bullet to the head generally works as well as a 40mm round to the head."
justadudewholovescats
but did the emperor protects?????
MalNebiros
Eisenhorn?
Chronozon937
Considering some of the things from 40k that statement couldn't be farther from the truth.
Leonon
9mm is fine for some infantry, such as Commisars.
moonshadowkati
Commissars use either laspistols, which hit more like a 5.56 round than a 9mm, or a bolt pistol, which is a .75 caliber explosive round.
moonshadowkati
A 9mm is more like a stub gun, used by hive gangs and gretchin.
justbelowme
40mm? They would have no head.
pgdave
And yet they're not any more dead.
OrangeFlavours
So... it works
codyshredd
confanity
"When you need a thing, having the thing is better than not." Yes, very true.
confanity
The problem being that lots of people *feel* they "need" a gun when really they don't.
GentleBen1901
If I knew that there were nutjobs with guns around me then I would want one too. But my Government has banned most guns so not an issue
FBIhere
But can you really blame them for wanting protection when their life could be potentially at risk?
confanity
3. Admittedly, this is skewed by the way guns make suicide attempts far more successful than attempts by other means, but the fact remains.
confanity
5. And then of course there are a few dozen cases every year of a curious toddler getting their hands on a gun and someone getting shot.
confanity
7. But few mistakes are as likely to leave you permanently crippled or, um, *dead*, as ones involving a gun. Don't risk it unless you MUST.
confanity
1. Not per se, but I can blame them for seeking a "solution" that actually puts them at greater risk instead of truly making them safer.
confanity
6. You can blame the toddler ones on parental error... but that's the problem. Everybody makes mistakes sooner or later. Even Homer nods.
confanity
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/even_Homer_nods
confanity
(NOT this: https://media1.tenor.com/images/20b7af7a29ec83eca20a00f14ae29507/tenor.gif?itemid=4603486 )
confanity
4. If there's no immediate threat to your life, showing a gun can also cause the other side to escalate to lethal force out of fear.
FBIhere
Which is why I have a Concealed Handgun Liscense, which requires me to know the laws related to carrying and drawing my firearm, as well as
FBIhere
3. your protection isn't risking the comfort of those that don't deserve it.
FBIhere
2. escalation of force. I'm of the opinion that if you want protection, don't open carry. Get a CHL (or CWP, depending on your state), so
confanity
2. Statistics show that people in families with guns are more likely to be shot by their own weapon than to defend themselves successfully.
MrChurch
[Citation needed]
AJMansfield
67740 sucessful defensive uses per year vs 548 fatal unintentional shootings per year in 2012 sounds like a pretty good deal to me.
Blastergv9
Bears aside, I carry a small .380 with hollow points. Single stack. Hides very easily. Will stop humans.
SaItyEuropean
so cool man, I'm you glad you are ready to murder someone
Blastergv9
Yea, because that's synonymous with self defense
CascadianTwilight
Which humans?
pocketcthulhu
.9mm, hollow points 17 +1 plus two spare mags. I was a boyscout.
LeumisRichardson
Nine tenths of a millimeter? Wow... Now THAT is a mousegun...
pocketcthulhu
:p
JDJeep98
Actually, 22LR will stop humans. It almost killed Regan.
LeumisRichardson
But does it do it reliably enough to bet your life on?
JDJeep98
Any gun is better than no gun.
giveittomestraightlikeapearcidermadefrom100percentpears
Not criticising, just asking. Why HP's? The .380 is a slow round at the best of days, HP's needs speed to peel. Why not FMJ, that way >
giveittomestraightlikeapearcidermadefrom100percentpears
you're ensuring penetration at the very least, when the liklihood is your HP's will act like FMJ's anyways.
DarkHorseDreams
You mean like a James bond gun ppk?
justbelowme
The ppk is not that small and kinda heavy. Lcp or sw bodyguard is wayy smaller and lighter
majortaco
i actually own both of those. i carry the lcp a bit more often cause its lighter and simpler (no safety)
Blastergv9
Exactly that, actually
CotterPyke
what kind of .380? I have a Bersa und a Ruger LCP-what i really wanted was a Beretta 84 but they banned in my (POLICE) state (caliornia
MetaSomma
What got that banned?
CotterPyke
oh, what happens in california is, the state requires some safety features on certain guns like a mag safety on some guns and other 2/
CotterPyke
dumb stuff just to make it harder for the manuf to sell guns here. Ruger gave up entirely..also the manuf has to pay a fee to get on 3/
CotterPyke
and stay on "the list" of state approved guns. It's a fee for every kind of gun they sell, and beretta just didnt pay the fee required to 4/
Blastergv9
Walther 9mm short. Older gun. I have a beretta too but I'm partial to the walther because it is single stack and im a softy for james bond
CotterPyke
noice! I'd have paid any price for a new walther in .380 but you just can't get them here.bersa's just a cheap Argentinian copy
Blastergv9
I inherited it from my grandfather. Another reason I have a soft spot for it.
MrKibbs
S&W .380 body guard is what I picked out. GREAT little gun.
Blastergv9
For bears... don't go any less than a .45
Flyinfish756
10mm
causality
Anything less than 3,000ft-lbs won't reliably penetrate a grizzly skull. Brass solids are your friend.
MetaSomma
Nothing less than an 88mm
groovinlow
What kind of bears are you hunting? T-34s?
MetaSomma
Tigers, too
Linkoln
Carry 10mm ez
DenaliRaven
I carry 44mag for that nothing less
Blastergv9
Or that. More punch than a regular 45 actually.
DenaliRaven
Oh yeah. And it’s a revolver so it never jams
Lamplord
Hollow points made to kill. A bullet will stop someone anyway, but they still have a chance to live. Hollowpoints increase bloodloss. 1/2
Squidwart
Hollow points were made to stop over-penetration. A hack with a CPL doesnt need to be any more dangerous to bystanders than they already are
SanguinariAlativari
Hollow-points smush and shatter when they hit and often won't go through them a lot of people shot in the head with hollow points still live
Lamplord
At that point, you arent just defending yourself, you are making sure they die.
giveittomestraightlikeapearcidermadefrom100percentpears
Actually in the case of the .380/9mm short. HP's probably aren't the best idea anyway. They will only expand at quite high velocities.
giveittomestraightlikeapearcidermadefrom100percentpears
Plus the tiny barrel will cause the round to leave at lower speeds, so that's an extra handicap. FMJ ensure better penetration.
captainawesome9000
Hollow points reduce penetration. That’s the main point of them, not to increase blood loss. They’re made that way so they dump their
captainawesome9000
energy in a person or animal that is shot on purpose, not overpenetrate and hit a person behind them by accident. That’s it.
Blastergv9
Thank you. Dude's acting like once you have to shot somebody you should be nicer to them by using a less lethal round.
Blastergv9
If it comes to the point where I have to pull the trigger, then it's life or death. Yes, they are made to kill.
Lamplord
They are made to kill *after* the fact by blood loss and internal injuries, incapacitation is key in a home invasion. 1/2
Lamplord
Youre just making sure the cops find a body rather than a guy crying for his mom and regretting his mistakes with a bullet in his gut.
paulbloface
You think every single aggressor immediately gives up the second they're shot? When someone's shot it's basically a countdown until the 1/x
Blastergv9
They hit with more force, increasing the stopping power. I care about ending the threat - hollow points maximize that.
Notme68
But oddly, I have trouble getting gun "enthusiasts" to admit that a gun's primary purpose is to kill things.
paulbloface
"Gun guy" here. A given firearm's purpose may be to kill. Hunting rifles take game, duty rifles respond to threats/targets, carry guns 1/x
paulbloface
etc etc. But there are purpose specific firearms for things like target shooting and competition. Looking at it from either the design 2/x