the US is a sh1th0le banana republic with rotating door dictatorship, which lets their infrastructure rot & people live on the streets while it spends huge parts of it's GDP on their military to not get invaded by the counntries they have bombed, robbed, razed or split into parts ... the only reason there is no revolution is that they lie to their people, that they live in the best country in the world & everybody is just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire
Canada here, I'm having a home birth attended by a midwife (high level of medical training) and all her expensive gear and it will cost me $0... I even get home visits in the week after the birth. Sorry eh
To be fair nationalized health care is extremely difficult to do, so difficult that only 33 of the 34 largest countries have been able to figure it out...
I have an MBA in health policy and admin. Our Dean was Nixon's inflation "Czar" (shaking down corps for graft like Trump) He said proudly that the healthcare sector would soon take 33% of US GDP! (It's 18% now, twice that of any other developed country) with the worst outcomes. Worst of all if you write about it the FBI could label you a troublemaker- a "possible terrorist" and "anticapitalist" and make sure you get bad, dangerous healthcare afterward! 1/
Infant mortality is also quite bad and the US is one of the few developed countries with decreasing life expectancy and of course the biggest spread in life expectancy based on income.
While there is no meaningful difference in quality of therapy or availability compared to most OECD nations. So, no, you do not pay for better quality. You just pay more, period.
God this is real. I had a SUPER simple easy birth 3 months ago. Got the bill this week for $1,500. We have fantastic insurance, stayed one night in the hospital, and zero complications
Imagine paying out of pocket for a simple surgery. That resulted in an infection in spine, then follow up resulted in hole in spinal cord, then surgery to fix hole resulted in muscles all being severed in neck to walk away with CSF leak which had another surgery. All the time you are laying in ICU. Finally sent home, yet still have CSF leak, that you pay oit of pocket $1400 for a simple blood patch that you fought doctors for 18 months to do, that they insisted wasnt needed, but fixed issue....
Then you finally start to feel better, and put on the 40lbs of weight lost while dealing with all of it to be sued by hospital for $2.9 million because insurance refuses to pay for hospital negligence, yet all malpractice lawyers claim the hospital is protected by law... yup, greatest country on earth....
I don't know how much it costs in Australia. (Everything in hospital was covered under Medicare. Which is what our taxes pay for.) But I do know we got money from the government in the form of the baby bonus to help us with the expenses of having a newborn.
And we're supposed to guess where you live? This could be from a Norwegian wanting to talk about how well the system works, or an American wanting to contradict the OP.
In the UK my mother had cataracts done at Moorfields, a world class eye hospital. She had to pay £5 for parking. My last trip to A+E (the UK ER) cost me 80p, which was the coffee I bought in the twenty minute wait to be seen.
At this point, N. Korea takes better care of it's citizens than the USA does. And it's getting worse every fucking day. A police state run by billionaires and zionists with the largest slave population on earth, and no health care and no representation in government. It's broken beyond anyone's ability to fix it. Fuck it. RUNNNNNZZZ!!!!!!!
At least in north Korea the leader just proclaims you survived and you get to nourish your fellow slaves as soylent green. You dont even have to think about believing it because if you say otherwise, you also get to be soylent green. Obviously you just say its a good thing. No thoughts required
Israel gets free health care, education, and priority for organ transplants that are free and paid by the USA government :)) Yes, an Israeli will get priority for the USA organ lists over Americans, and all is paid for them, including stay and organ for free.
In '04 I broke my hip & femur in a skateboarding accident. Happened in the middle of the street in West LA. Eventually a passerby saw I was hurt and was kind enough to call me an ambulance (my phone slid under a car and I couldn't crawl to it) but for some reason a firetruck showed up too - got a $2,500 bill for that firetruck merely appearing
The doctors did that Scrubs thing, however, and fudged my paperwork (I had no ins) so I got the surgery gratis - so grateful to them (was almost $50k)
I had a knee injury at work a couple of years ago and was stuck at home for 6 months. Not only were all my medical expenses covered, but my wages were also covered for the entire time.
In the late 90s I needed emergency surgery on my hand or I'd lose it. I tried to convince them to not save it because I wouldn't be able to afford it. They assured me they'd help and it'd be okay before I passed out. They didn't. It took over a decade to get that debt off of me. I have my have so that's nice
I devised a payment plan for the LA fire dept - I left the state and paid them nothing
I'm fine now, thanks. I have a bunch of pins & screws in my pelvis & leg and I can tell you when it's gonna rain - but they did a solid job putting me back together
I lost a year in college because a specialist ordered a CT scan with radioiodine tracer to determine if I had cancer. Insurance paid all but $10k. I was put in collections and the hospital settled out of court for $2500. I worked at a Pizza Hut and literally gave them every paycheck I made for months under threat of being sued a second time for "refusal to pay."
As a trucker who has had to deal with TQL shenanigans, this absolutely tracks. Shithole company, barely one step above scammers and that's only because they have to have insurance. The fact that this has only happened *once* is more surprising, tbh.
Best of luck to her getting paid, though, they'll just declare bankruptcy and reopen next week as Total Logistics Quality. Obviously a very different company, no relation to the previous.
It's sick that suing is basically the only way to make a law in this country. That usually means only entities of means get laws made in their interest
MelfsAcidArrow
Ours was $500 after insurance for a C-section twins. In USA.
UnlimitedTrickPony
the US is a sh1th0le banana republic with rotating door dictatorship, which lets their infrastructure rot & people live on the streets while it spends huge parts of it's GDP on their military to not get invaded by the counntries they have bombed, robbed, razed or split into parts ... the only reason there is no revolution is that they lie to their people, that they live in the best country in the world & everybody is just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire
WeAreMinty
Here a song for your sanity “Breed for the machine” by de dode Fortuyntjes >> https://open.spotify.com/track/5Ju5peHXlESf8juNT9oKRF?si=IIiDFx0UTt-tR4JVH5F0NA
Comboverman
Canada - it's covered too. What kind of a country starts babies off in debt? America
sirdouglasbuttersworth
Canada here, I'm having a home birth attended by a midwife (high level of medical training) and all her expensive gear and it will cost me $0... I even get home visits in the week after the birth. Sorry eh
NotThatPrivate
Our life expectancy is also going down slightly, yay! /s
Bgone
But we bought lobsters and steaks with taxpayer dollars
Rangecontrol
make more money by not saving everyone in the u.s. because they value money over ppl there.
OrdinarilyBob
2badsosad55
I’ve got insurance, no complications and it was a $6,000 bill. Still procrastinating paying it 😅
Ambrosyus
I saw a bill where the lady was CHARGED FOR HOLDING HER BABY. This country is so stupid and anti-woman, it's disgusting.
DerpyBestPrincess
Yeah, I remember that. It didn't go too viral because... it's how it is in the US. Insane.
RetiredLaserMan
To be fair nationalized health care is extremely difficult to do, so difficult that only 33 of the 34 largest countries have been able to figure it out...
WebDragonG3
BuT We ArE So PrO LiFe!
michaelfire
I have an MBA in health policy and admin. Our Dean was Nixon's inflation "Czar" (shaking down corps for graft like Trump) He said proudly that the healthcare sector would soon take 33% of US GDP! (It's 18% now, twice that of any other developed country) with the worst outcomes. Worst of all if you write about it the FBI could label you a troublemaker- a "possible terrorist" and "anticapitalist" and make sure you get bad, dangerous healthcare afterward! 1/
michaelfire
https://www.democracynow.org/2025/10/2/headlines/trump_directive_classifies_errorism">https://www.democracynow.org/2025/10/2/headlines/trump_directive_classifies_anti_capitalism_and_aanti_cap">errorism">https://www.democracynow.org/2025/10/2/headlines/trump_directive_">nti_amer">anti_cap">errorism">https://www.democracynow.org/2025/10/2/headlines/trump_directive_classifies_anti_capitalism_and_anti_american_views_as_domestic_terrorism https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/19/fbi-terrorism-investigations-anti-ice-activity https://theconversation.com/labeling-dissent-as-terrorism-new-us-domestic-terrorism-priorities-raise-constitutional-alarms-269161 https://truthout.org/audio/the-fbi-appears-to-be-engaged-in-a-modern-day-version-of-cointelpro/
Spidey209
Greatest healthcare system in the world! Someone make it make sense.
GoodEarthBetweenMyToes
This needs to be on the front page.
emu314159127001
Developed doesn't mean civilized
Tolocamp
Infant mortality is also quite bad and the US is one of the few developed countries with decreasing life expectancy and of course the biggest spread in life expectancy based on income.
While there is no meaningful difference in quality of therapy or availability compared to most OECD nations. So, no, you do not pay for better quality. You just pay more, period.
sombradeamigo1742
Ha! She thought she was soooo clever, but she made one glaring mistake! Imagine calling America a "developed nation". Foolish!
albaboss
God this is real. I had a SUPER simple easy birth 3 months ago. Got the bill this week for $1,500. We have fantastic insurance, stayed one night in the hospital, and zero complications
paullyboy1999
Imagine paying out of pocket for a simple surgery. That resulted in an infection in spine, then follow up resulted in hole in spinal cord, then surgery to fix hole resulted in muscles all being severed in neck to walk away with CSF leak which had another surgery. All the time you are laying in ICU. Finally sent home, yet still have CSF leak, that you pay oit of pocket $1400 for a simple blood patch that you fought doctors for 18 months to do, that they insisted wasnt needed, but fixed issue....
paullyboy1999
Then you finally start to feel better, and put on the 40lbs of weight lost while dealing with all of it to be sued by hospital for $2.9 million because insurance refuses to pay for hospital negligence, yet all malpractice lawyers claim the hospital is protected by law... yup, greatest country on earth....
TankTrain
I don't know how much it costs in Australia. (Everything in hospital was covered under Medicare. Which is what our taxes pay for.) But I do know we got money from the government in the form of the baby bonus to help us with the expenses of having a newborn.
Mithi
It's almost as if a even slightly competent government knows that babies mean new citizens and that this is a good thing for society.
ArchaeoEejit
I fucked up my knee in October, had a night in A&E, an MRI, a surgery and now I start physiotherapy soon, it hasn't cost me anything.
Rihn
And we're supposed to guess where you live? This could be from a Norwegian wanting to talk about how well the system works, or an American wanting to contradict the OP.
ArchaeoEejit
N. Ireland
CarlBassett
In the UK my mother had cataracts done at Moorfields, a world class eye hospital. She had to pay £5 for parking. My last trip to A+E (the UK ER) cost me 80p, which was the coffee I bought in the twenty minute wait to be seen.
DerpyBestPrincess
Good for you. You're not the majority.
Kablooeeey
At this point, N. Korea takes better care of it's citizens than the USA does. And it's getting worse every fucking day. A police state run by billionaires and zionists with the largest slave population on earth, and no health care and no representation in government. It's broken beyond anyone's ability to fix it. Fuck it. RUNNNNNZZZ!!!!!!!
frizy1
Such an American thing to act like you guys have it worse than north Korean citizens lmao
DerpyBestPrincess
Its*
TheMinisterOfCommonSense
At least in north Korea the leader just proclaims you survived and you get to nourish your fellow slaves as soylent green. You dont even have to think about believing it because if you say otherwise, you also get to be soylent green. Obviously you just say its a good thing. No thoughts required
R3N0X
Israel gets free health care, education, and priority for organ transplants that are free and paid by the USA government :)) Yes, an Israeli will get priority for the USA organ lists over Americans, and all is paid for them, including stay and organ for free.
pandemicpolemic
I hear there’s a lot more organs available in Israel these days. Especially if you don’t ask too many questions about the donor
R3N0X
Of course, especially with the current Child Sacrifice they are doing in Gaza.
CambreathdTheSecound
yes yes but Freedom to own guns, so take that world.. /s
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Nah, you can keep that. We kinda like it when our children don't need kevlar backpacks.
CambreathdTheSecound
did you miss the /s? I agree with you completely. Also not American, so...
TodayInSA
You can have guns and free health care. Despite what Denzel Washington showed you, you dont need guns to get healthcare
CambreathdTheSecound
did you miss the /s? Also I am not American, so...
TodayInSA
It was a reference to John Q. , a Denzel movie from 2002 so i'm not concerned you missed it.
Ih8thisSoMuch
In '04 I broke my hip & femur in a skateboarding accident. Happened in the middle of the street in West LA. Eventually a passerby saw I was hurt and was kind enough to call me an ambulance (my phone slid under a car and I couldn't crawl to it) but for some reason a firetruck showed up too - got a $2,500 bill for that firetruck merely appearing
The doctors did that Scrubs thing, however, and fudged my paperwork (I had no ins) so I got the surgery gratis - so grateful to them (was almost $50k)
reichstein
I had a knee injury at work a couple of years ago and was stuck at home for 6 months.
Not only were all my medical expenses covered, but my wages were also covered for the entire time.
I live in Australia.
UnprunedSynapses
In the late 90s I needed emergency surgery on my hand or I'd lose it. I tried to convince them to not save it because I wouldn't be able to afford it. They assured me they'd help and it'd be okay before I passed out. They didn't. It took over a decade to get that debt off of me. I have my have so that's nice
DerpyBestPrincess
Some kind souls in the world, nice.
Ih8thisSoMuch
Not ashamed to admit I genuinely wept with gratitude
polepolekaz
These costs are crazy. Hope you’re okay.
Ih8thisSoMuch
I devised a payment plan for the LA fire dept - I left the state and paid them nothing
I'm fine now, thanks. I have a bunch of pins & screws in my pelvis & leg and I can tell you when it's gonna rain - but they did a solid job putting me back together
Pokegeologist
I lost a year in college because a specialist ordered a CT scan with radioiodine tracer to determine if I had cancer. Insurance paid all but $10k. I was put in collections and the hospital settled out of court for $2500. I worked at a Pizza Hut and literally gave them every paycheck I made for months under threat of being sued a second time for "refusal to pay."
Bathroomboy
if they sued you, would they have gotten their money?
DragoWhooves
they probally would have pushed for comtempt of court or some shit and get OP thrown in jail for 5 years, while still having to pay it off
TheMellowPeril
Girl just wanted to flex her polyglotism
LenneSamunai
Isnt what all the ppl who post online videos do? Flex what they can do/ are good at?
Spidey209
Good for her. Her dimple is attractive too.
MuffinProof
Is that like multilingualism?
TheMellowPeril
Yes. Multilingual is formed on Latin roots and polyglot is formed on Greek roots.
j4gr
And here I sat like an ignoramus thinkin both dem words wuz synonymous
thesameasyours
Don't kink shame
TheMellowPeril
Don’t get me wrong: I would too if I could
thesameasyours
Say it slower......and in another language!
CaptainScarfish
Omelet du fromage
Karma1970
My country is a shithole https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ohio-firm-must-pay-225-million-mom-whose-baby-died-was-denied-work-hom-rcna264321
PicassoCT
Usa usb usc?
Elkarlo77
US F ail
Perkunas687
And I was about to go to bed without feeling bad.
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
As a trucker who has had to deal with TQL shenanigans, this absolutely tracks. Shithole company, barely one step above scammers and that's only because they have to have insurance. The fact that this has only happened *once* is more surprising, tbh.
Best of luck to her getting paid, though, they'll just declare bankruptcy and reopen next week as Total Logistics Quality. Obviously a very different company, no relation to the previous.
jenoween
It's true. This Canadian doesn't travel to shithole countries.
Karma1970
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Karma1970
UnprunedSynapses
It's sick that suing is basically the only way to make a law in this country. That usually means only entities of means get laws made in their interest
Karma1970
I don't remember where I heard it but the best description for what we have in America is, America has a Legal System, not a Justice System.
UnprunedSynapses
That's a bingo