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Nov 16, 2023 8:24 PM
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*points gun*
INeverWaitForIt
Grey man, his eyebrows flexed in angry realization.
graehall
This post is so meta I love it
drduffer
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra. Metaphor for working cooperatively in the face of difficulties or danger. In the end, they’re all memes.
anotherusernamed
Widgetboy
This is a tier 3 reference, and I am here for it. +1.
MyNameIsBatty
Shaka when the walls fell! 😒
goflyblind
jjMan72
imgurnaknockuout
DigiT00l
Which reaction image/gif is this again?
Midgarmerc
Not his opinions on lgbtq, however
CobaltAzurean
graehall
Another banger GIF from the legendary @Technohawk
Technohawk
graehall
ayyye!
TheShogunMustGoOn
cepacolusmaximus
Captain America, aboard the helicarrier, teasing Tony
Lazarillo
I feel like that's too specific to work. It should be more like, "Captain America, at the meeting table." Maybe add "his finger, pointing." if needed, but definitely no more than that.
iGotFOLDERS
kaitco1984
Teaflings
omg i made that meme 3 years ago and posted it to the RLM subreddit. That post was deleted but here it is. Wild. Also a bit jarring since my reddit is GoatsGoats00 and @NotACanadian just posted a goatse joke under this. Feels like im getting Truman Show'd
NotACanadian
Goatse, his aperture red.
Asadsadsadclown
Cockmongler, his cocks, mongled.
NotACanadian
CATS, your bases belonging to him.
Asadsadsadclown
Tubgirl, her spirits raised.
Casually
I like that Lower Decks now has them learning regular communication and becoming Starfleet officers.
Merdock
I also love that the crew is learning to speak like the Tamarians
merlecorey
i thought they specifically referenced that it was a translator upgrade? Theres an episode where it glitches and he reverts back.
JayDeeDubs
I thought it was more he was stressed and reverted to his normal speaking patterns
VayaKahvi
The problem, which was the main thrust of the original episode, is their whole language is idioms, without context a direct translation is gibberish. It's easier for Tamarians to learn to speak without the idioms than it is to teach the translator all the needed context.
ExTechOp
The problem/solution of course is, you do need a non-idiomatic language to explain the idioms to begin with.
BorealFace
We need more of those glitches. I need to hear the myth they use for "I gotta piss like a racehorse."
merlecorey
my guess would be "the [river name] in the spring, the snow thoroughly melted"
NotACanadian
I've tried and failed to be a fan of Lower Decks. It's like it's trying to be a Star Trek to 20 somethings who only watch Rick and Morty, and requires 15 Star Trek references a minute in order to remind the viewer that this is the same Star Trek universe that was once full of mature ideals and competent people.
Dalael
Boo this man!!
somethingdark
Like all Star Trek series (except SNW somehow), you have to power through the first couple of seasons before it gets good.
LoopStricken
I don't think Discovery ever got good
somethingdark
It's decent once they're in the future imo. I loved the last couple of episodes of season 4, but I'm a sucker for xenolinguistics.
MisuseOfLiterally
Except LD was good from S1
somethingdark
Personally, it took me a few seasons before it would register in my brain as Star Trek, but I recognize that other people liked it almost immediately. I should rewatch it from the beginning and see how I feel about it now.
mike13815
I disagree. Without the references and meta jokes, it's solid, interesting, cannon "support crew" story. Essentially TNG O'Brien, the show.
NotACanadian
So the real support crew in the real Star Trek act like they've just come straight out of high school with all the discipline of them too?
mike13815
Yes. It's explored in TNG with young picard and voyager with tom and harry (and other ensigns) and late DS9. Nog graduated at 20, harry at 22. Given the 120 year+ life expectancy, ensigns are essentially highschool graduates.
bedframe
There are hijinks anywhere there are a lot of people that age, from a Wendy's to an aircraft carrier.
AnneMakesMistakes
In real life, most of the western world's militaries recruit right out of high school, so you'll very often get the same kind of behavior. Star Fleet, in spite of all protestations and attempts to say otherwise, is a military organization, specifically a navy, and modeled after western ideals in that regard, so it's very likely they recruit out of highschool. Given that we see Wesley is a Starfleet recruit, it's possible they regularly recruit even earlier than that. 1/2
NotACanadian
Even in real life militaries there are limits to behavior. Like in the crossover episode with SNW they should NOT have been speaking out of turn in the ready room. Also, Starfleet is modeled more after Gene Roddenberry's ideals than Western ones specifically. If the future's gonna be a bunch of idiot delinquents, then going forward feels hopeless.
AnneMakesMistakes
Its also worth noting that characters are meant to be young, and that because Star Fleet pretty regularly engages in combat, they likely all have pretty serious PTSD, which can make people a little weird.
NaughtButOne
I wouldn't mind the references so much if they weren't all MCU'd into being comedic punchlines, every. single. one. Like, there's an entire comedic bit about Armus. You know, the thing that murdered Tasha Yar in cold blood? So funny, ha ha ha.
Rovylern
NotACanadian
"The Dominion War never happened!" Says the...Lieutenant...also a science officer...who would have absolutely been around for the Dominion War.
bedframe
The class of ship featured in the show is strictly support and not tremendously well armed. It probably wouldn't have been anywhere near the fighting. Also, Sandy Hook truthers.
NotACanadian
The entire setting of Star Trek is to show a version of humanity that has transcended itself through great effort. The Iraq War would be a better analogy than Sandy Hook, but the point is that these types of "truthers" should NOT exist in Starfleet, ESPECIALLY not proudly. Ever. That ideal has been trashed, and trashed, and trashed further as ST goes on but it still remains that Star Trek is supposed to show how we can be better, not who we are like so many other sci-fis.
graehall
I fkn love Lower Decks, and Strange New Worlds
ToastedEggSandwich
I'm so glad the Strange New Worlds cast managed to escape the shitshow that is Discovery. Season 2 of DSC was easily some of the worst television I have ever seen.
Noodlesocks
I hate discovery. I don't think it's a terrible show on it's own. I hate it because it completely disregards canon at its own convenience, is sometimes completely illogical (That turbo lift scene still makes me cringe) and with it going into the far future, it 'spoils' every piece of Star Trek material that could now ever release. I sincerely hope the show is retconned or straight up considered non-canon.
murderhobbit
They're both very good
graehall
aye
Casually
I heard lower decks described as a show making fun of Star Trek made by people that love Star Trek. I rather like that description. I would add that it is surprisingly serious at times.
InfocalypseRising
The best part of Strange New Worlds is that they had the unmitigated audacity to sandwich an excellent HORRORS OF WAR episode directly between the cartoon crossover and the musical
graehall
They fucking swing for the fences when it comes to variety of themes and I am so gods damn here for it
cozynester
it's like they actually listened to fan feedback about Picard being so far off base
InfocalypseRising
God, Picard was so awful. It’s like they skimmed a few wiki articles and tried to do a series based on whatever they could remember
MisuseOfLiterally
Worst for me in S3 was that they brought in the changelings, we had Seven of Nine, Roe, Tuvok, mentions of Janeway... In my mind they were going for a "celebration" of all three 90s Trek and cumulate them for a big crossover story.
Boy was I disappointed when I eventually realised it was all just cameos for the sake of putting in cameos.
I think they really missed a golden opportunity
Alfadorfox
I haven't seen any of it but I heard that Season 3 of Picard ALSO listened to fan feedback and is better than the first two. Treat that with an appropriate amount of skepticism, though, as it's essentially rumor.
Noodlesocks
it was a good season but it still didn't feel very star trek and I think that stems from the same problem the other two seasons had. They were basically two part episodes stretched out over an entire season. Felt more like a show set in the Star Trek universe rather than a Star Trek show.
MisuseOfLiterally
S3 is *fine* ... honestly it disappointed me but it was much better than S2 so I think thats one thing that people appreciated
For me it was too much *cameos* and not enough of a good plot. Picard overall as a serie has been underwhelming for me
InfocalypseRising
It was a bit better than S2 but it still sucked.
graehall
Season 3 is what the show should have always been, it's pretty darn good. So much nostalgia in it too
Alfadorfox
Thanks for the confirmation!
wibbIywobbIytimeywimey
SNW is fantastic
graehall
It is a fucking joy - it's so special
glaug
I'm picky and stuck in my ways re: Trek, but I've finally started SNW and I'm honestly amazed by how it 1. honors existing canon without being a tiresome parade of references, 2. finally resurrects FUN EPISODIC ADVENTURES as a format, and 3. takes chances, makes mistakes, gets messy, and goes boldly
Merdock
Watching Season 3 of Picard has made me really want a series with 7 of 9 as the captain, and have it be along the same episodic type nature of SNW and some of the older shows. While I do like story heavy shows, I feel like star trek does its best when it's more episodic. To me, it allows for more of a focus on either fun adventure or philosophical pondering. I'm also loving Lower Decks.
graehall
Ope just gonna skootch past you here with a hot take I made
glaug
I'm enjoying Lower Decks, and it is fun Trek, but I see it as kind of...junk food, so to speak. I'm going to keep watching it and sincerely enjoying it, but it's set apart from the more serious Trek.