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A guy in my class literally said "I don't believe in science, I'm a christian." Made me think of this.
Mar 11, 2016 3:09 AM
SonOfTheBatt
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A guy in my class literally said "I don't believe in science, I'm a christian." Made me think of this.
StraightJacket219
the how is science, the why is belief. the should is philosophy
joey92lx
"I dont know why you always have to be judging me, because I only believe in Science." - ESQUELETO
deweydefeatstrumanagain
I think a more important question is whether science is a method of thinking, or a body of knowledge
alxWhycantigetone
Scientologists believe in Jesus being a scientist, right? And Tom Cruise is the all father or something? Compromise.
whateverthevoicestellme
I believe in lots of scientists and have investigated some. Am I doing this right?
ztburton
Yeah...we kinda did the opposite.
LongoloidFartExplosion
But I believe in science, I do not believe in religion.
meatshieldxxl
Cept it's both
Joshuanonymous
Science has become dogma for many. True science is a verb, people. Not a proper noun. Stop deifying it. Leave deification to metaphysics.
Icouri
I come from the future. No luck there.
InDirectVariant
Hello from future further, oh god, I'd like to go back
Jerenemy
Science isn't a belief system though. I don't believe in science. I investigate using science, and I believe in my faith.
Junktrunkjunkie
truthfully we can know nothing for 100% certain for good or bad everyone has to act upon their beliefs. I am pretty sure of a few things tho
ImgurianElysium
I doubt that guy in your class said that. If he did he must have stepped straight out of the 19th century.
Dayrest
I know ppl who have expressed that sentiment without using those exact words. To some, the bible is literal truth.
Durzaka
You have have belief in something that also has empirical data behind it. So this doesnt mean that much. As in 1/2
Durzaka
I believe in the proofs that science has presented, and has the ability to further investigate, and possibly revise in the future.
maximusslade
I am thinking more thinking of the anti christians who see SCIENCE as their God....
PsychopompGecko
I saw a couple of those yesterday: https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/21/31701696_8c14a5cfff.jpg
ChesusCrust
Sure, but do we have to believe what the scientists say or disregard unless we alone can reproduce the results?
Kruxelur
As the man said: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/20/e4/4b/20e44be03be73efbc4d1fc4dacab1808.jpg
Retsam19
Actually quite a few people do essentially treat science as a belief system; it's called Scientism.
KintsugiHeart
Yes... A method that you BELIEVE will work.. Sheesh, people don't get simple things...
noderoom
There is no need to believe anything at all. As a mode of cognition belief is entirely obsolete.
Theodrian
More a lack of a method.
muisverriet
The fun thing about science is that it's true whether you believe in it or not.
ThisIsJustToComment
Is it wrong to believe in logic and empirical evidence?
Theodrian
Ask BLM, radical feminists, creationists, the KKK, North Korea, practitioners or Sharia law, WBC, Trump supporters, or Atheism+ for a start.
Sheepyhead
No, it's merely pointless. It's like believing that your heart beats, it'll do that whether or not you believe it
DarkSock
It's OK if people say they don't believe in science; but they need to give back electricity, television, most of their food & toilet paper.
Theodrian
All of their food* We eat almost nothing that wasn't genetically modified on some level. Domestication has that effect.
SeanJohnBobbyWTF
And most importantly...their computers and phones
DarkSock
Whoa - that would instantly eradicate the ALL-CAPS RANT syndrome...
OverlyUnprotective
But at the same time, I do believe in science!
noderoom
There is no need to. It is nothing if not un-reliance on belief.
Wineoceros
Me too! I believe in scientific facts, but I also believe in an everlasting and omnipotent God that loves me dearly and forgives me daily
Shovi
I believe in God, and i don't think he loves and forgives all.
elgatopicante
Sarcasm? Haha! Serious? Haha... Sad face.
vindmolle
Are you not baptized ?
Wineoceros
As a baptized Baptist, Christians are most definitely not required to disregard science in its entirety
vindmolle
Nacho libre reference;p But as someone who serves the same King, I agree :)
Wineoceros
How did I not get that?!?! http://gif.co/vt9L.gif
imturd
Well if people have to believe something the scientific method trumps Joeseph Smith.
Dayrest
My gfs dad told me yesterday that men and dinosaurs existed on earth at the same time. I stuttered a disbelieving noise. I was flabbergasted
Veggisaurus
Blame the Flintstones.
VodkaReindeer
How would he know better? He's probably had no decent education.
Dayrest
He hasn't actually. Barely finished high school and that was during the 60's
Dayrest
He's a born again Christian. Atheist till he was 47 I think. Then literally overnight became a bible thumper. Gf said it was disconcerting.
strcmdman
Quoting Bill Maher it takes a very intelligent man to remain a ath. as its far more difficult to prove yourself vs just knowing your right
flamingflamingo
A few years ago, Minnesota had a really harsh winter. My fiance's cousin joked that it was because of global warming. I said, "It is!" He >
flamingflamingo
looked at me like he felt sorry for me, then shook his head discouragingly and said, "No, no." Deciding that no, we're not discussing this.
Dayrest
I really wish the media hadn't dubbed it global warming. Climate change is so much more accurate....
flamingflamingo
Agreed. It's a bad name. It's confusing to anyone who doesn't like to think very hard about things.
strcmdman
Global Climate Change only predicts the increase in severe weather. It actually states very little on the avg temp rise. - Enviro Scientist
AtomicSpelunker
Statements by scientists aren't always statements of science. When it's believed rather than proven is where problems arise.
Sheepyhead
Whether something is scientific or not is actually quite clearly analyzable according to modern scientific theory
Hagge47
Like with religion and other superstition you mean?
raskenstam
No no, you got it all wrong. Soccer moms, models and food bloggers do the real science.
SomeAngelDude
You're wrong, science is done in front of a camera with your clothes off.
raskenstam
Uncle bob? Is that you?
strcmdman
Science can be a belief system something like Scientology or a misunderstanding of core concepts that leaves scientific rigor open to debate
iCommunicateInGifs
Scientology isn't science.
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strcmdman
You miss my frame of reference. Wow this is old lol. Some people who are not scientist view science like a religion. This opens science 1
strcmdman
to debate on issues that are not debatable science is while a religion like Scientology is perverse on empirical data and belief based.
DisgruntledFerret
Science by definition has proven evidence, and faith by definition doesn't. That's why they're science and faith.
jediprincess
if there weren't so many "scientists for sale" who will create false studies for money, that might be true
SirAlbertNewton
Who is doing that and what studies?
jediprincess
Lancet editor admits at least half of the studies are falsified http://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736(15)60696-1.pdf
SirAlbertNewton
Daaamn, that's insane.
jediprincess
http://www.publicintegrity.org/2016/02/08/19223/meet-rented-white-coats-who-defend-toxic-chemicals
jediprincess
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/05/16/editor-in-chief-of-worlds-best-known-medical-journal-half-of-all-the-literature-is-false/
jediprincess
^^ Same with the New England Journal of Medicine
KUURTLURNN
But a lot of people preach science how people preach religion... with blind trust...it's just as irritating.
zeratul1005
I'd beg to differ, because when you use "blind trust" with faith, you have very little to no evidence to back up your beliefs, whereas 1/X
zeratul1005
Science (when done properly) is peer reviewed / able to be observed in multiple facets with multiple types of evidence which others can see.
KUURTLURNN
Yeah but so many people read random articles online thinking they're 100% true and preach like they know everything...
KUURTLURNN
The problem is people just believe everything they see online that is a "science" post and run around preaching it like they kow everything
thecolonels
Faith is believing in something despite reason. Wouldn't be faith if it was logical.
wardmatt1
“Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld.” (Heb 11:1)
wardmatt1
In other words. in the past the sun has always come up, so we have faith that it will come up tomorrow,
thecolonels
Ok how does that apply to religion? If you want to change up definitions it's going to make communicating difficult.
wardmatt1
Faith and science are similar when you use the bibles definition of faith. Most people think faith means believing without evidence.
planetfinder
Faith isn't necessarily despite reason; it's just without solid proof.
thecolonels
Which is strongly against the scientific method.
planetfinder
That's why it's not science. Science is immensely useful but there are good things that aren't science.
Isinger
Like Wat
thecolonels
You got my point in the first sentence. Science is separate from faith.
Theodrian
Any proof*
Dayrest
That's not fair. There are plenty of bits of proof for events in the bible, so to some, that adds credence to the bible as a whole.
zeratul1005
Events of recorded history in a book with extraordinary claims =! credence for extraordinary claims.
Luckeystar
There's proof to believers
Theodrian
Assumption and supposition are not proof.
Sloppydrunkcatlady
As a Christian, why couldn't have God created the world in a glorious Big Bang? More exciting that way.
VileFury
Why god of the gaps in the first place? Not knowing something and learning about it is more fun than sticking in an unverifiable assumption.
Dayrest
Ask yourself this. What was the first event ever? And what started it? How did something exist to start it? Wouldn't its creation be the 1/2
Dayrest
First event? If you go back far enough, At some point, something sprang from nothing. There isn't even a framework for explaining how 2/3
Dayrest
That's possible. I'm not saying I belive, but that very first something from nothing, the prime mover, that's the reason for God. To some.
VileFury
Yes, that's what god of the gaps is. Just because we can't explain something now, doesn't mean a non-evidence based assumption is true.
Sloppydrunkcatlady
Your comment has changed my entire religious beliefs. Thank you. You are doing good work, son.
Sloppydrunkcatlady
But seriously. People complain that Christians don't believe in science, and when there are some that do (me), people complain. Just. Ugh.
VileFury
It's more marveling at the cognitive dissonance, not really complaining.
Sloppydrunkcatlady
I can believe that my deity utilizes science to create what I know to be true in the world. It's better than thinking science is fake.
Sloppydrunkcatlady
Not everyone is going to share the same beliefs. Appreciate diversity, be happy that there are religious people who like science and move on
VileFury
Not trying to change it, just interested. Regardless, you're welcome. :)
Sloppydrunkcatlady
It's great your interested, but it'd take way more than 140 characters to explain why I'm a Christian. Just be happy that there are those
Sloppydrunkcatlady
of us who appreciate and respect science and a number of other things we're not known for such as marriage equality and being pro choice.
Sloppydrunkcatlady
*you're. Sorry.
Sloppydrunkcatlady
You seriously fucking down voted me correcting my grammar? Holy shit dude get your panties out of your ass I didn't murder your grandmother
VileFury
You're the one getting angry over points. ;)