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Luuin
#28 I think that speaks more about his web shooters being faster than a bullet than his reflexes.
Kholek42
Thank you! This one always bugs the shit out of me. His reflexes have nothing to do with the speed of the webs being shot.
Oscar074
They are all true once you throw in the multiverse
middlehead
Except Magneto only being alpha. He's Omega.
EvripidesKarseras
Daredevil doesn't radar sense, but sonar sense. There.
coolkaza
Both are echolocation. One is underwater.
Thekingofbeans
I will never understand how he can detect inanimate objects but not ninjas.
aleister94
The comics never confirm exactly how his radar works
IsACouchASeat
It was definitely 'radar sense' at one point, but it has become echolocation over the years. At least in most wrtings
SaraFourImgur
JustinBoz
What is this?
ZuffsStuff
RocketJump's video. Titled "The Ultimate Nutshot" or something
icedmcfurry
Magneto can't lift the hammer
knowshure
Can we stop calling these facts? Maybe "superhero trivia" is a better title for these posts. I mean they're fascinating fiction.
HeyGuysAmIRelevantYet
beoluves
Nitro?
imjakefromstatefarm
iirc the boss had supplied the mutant growth hormones that powered up nitro and caused him to go nuclear at stamford
beoluves
Bad move
MushySnugs
DarthLordJay
Plot twist: they are all true. Enjoy hahaha
AllHailTrumPutiNaMo
I knew it! But since this post is 90% Marvel, cudn't b sure.
Larkos
They are imprecise though. It mentions several things that are only true in the Ultimate universe for example.
TrizzNathaniel
Hawkeye, ya gross.
Anfalicious
I would watch the fuck out of the damage control movie.
robotsp
all comics "facts" are bullshit because cape comics exist in a twilight reality where both everything and nothing is canon
CrimIXE
Which*
04FoxSake
thank yoouu
moxymox
When is a typo not a typo? When it's a clue.
Fairbas
There it is !
Hatah
http://imgur.com/zL3w3CJ
ChronoTimer
Would like to see a story all about Ice Man being trapped on the Frost Giant world
Mewmus
he'd be like "shit, everything is already frozen, what am I going to do? freeze it more?"
TwoPumpTrump
And how he would run it?
ChronoTimer
Not a story writer but maybe he doesn't maybe he has to fight them. Maybe he just has to get in touch with his powers IDK
AdeptusBastardes
Wow, facts about fictional characters.
notespictures
I want a damage control movie.
Clonekid
What I learned, Magneto is a fucking savage.
PrincipalVaginaHereDontLetTheNameFoolYouImVeryMuchInCharge
Who is the CEO of Damage Control? They must be FUCKING LOADED
azrx
Shovi
LOL, got a source for this?
azrx
https://youtu.be/HHyFjthgIfE
bluemilk4me
Magneto is an omega level
ComoSeIguana
Found the false fact!
bigsoos
I think he is an alpha level, only a few omega level mutants
Winterhathcome
Mags is Omega.
bluemilk4me
I figured since he can control the magnetic shift of the earths plates and can throw the whole planet into a giant shake, he would be
bigsoos
I think it's more about power potential. Magneto can only control metal, Iceman learned to do so much more with his powers.
bluemilk4me
Oh I thought he controlled magnetic fields which basically everything has some sort of magnetic field so I always thought he was op
HeroSky
His power is limited to earth and other planets with an electromagnetic field.
bluemilk4me
I thought omega level meant they had the ability to end the world, like storm or icemAn, aren't they both omega? Iceman would be 1/2
bluemilk4me
Restricted to planets with water so not sure why he is and magneto isnt
YourWaifuIsTrash
Alpha is "you have literally Earth-threatening powers", i.e. Magneto. Omega is "you could end the entire physical universe"; Franklin >
YourWaifuIsTrash
Richards is an out-and-out reality warper, so he counts; Iceman is Omega-level because he could just drain all of the heat (and energy) >
YourWaifuIsTrash
from the universe, effectively bringing about the heat death that entropy is leading towards. Jean Grey also makes the list, due to her >
FillerNameToFillTheBox
So you're telling me that Hawkeye has a Stand? He's has Tusk the whole time?
GentlemanScientist
TL;DR: Imaginary characters can do whatever their writers want them to, including one-upping other writers.
FillGoodguy
How the fuck does controlling electromagnetic waves not count as omega level? IT IS LITTERALLY ONE OF THE 4 FUNDEMENTAL FORCES!
mammothfart
His powers just make no sense under the standard model...
beggingyourmajestyspardon
I need like a visual scale of mutant power classification in order to understand where everyone falls on the spectrum
Larkos
The problem is that there are only three classifications so people like Bobby or Storm are somehow on the same level as Jean or F. Richards.
Gheralt
"Well either Frieza hit me so hard I'm in a delusional coma, or.... POWER LEVELS ARE BULLSHIT!"
GuessWho7197
Omega level is mostly reserved for mutants that can warp reality like Legion or Franklin Richards, with the exception of Iceman.
Flyndaran
He also has control, periodically, over things that are not ferromagnetic, so his powers are all over the place.
Larkos
He can make metals magnetic even if they aren't. His abilities are basically magic.
LtShed
when was that one?
Flyndaran
When he controls non-ferromagnetic metals like anything other than iron, and to very limited degree cobalt and nickel.
LtShed
Ah for some reason I was thinking you meant nonmetallic objects. Thanks for the clarification
Idontgetjokes
There are other types of magnetism. Most elements have some interaction with the magnetic field. Even Carbon or oxygen can be pushed/pulled.
Flyndaran
Paramagnetism and diamagnetism. But they're nearly nonexistent at room temperature. Mutant-babble / technobabble inconsistent in use.
creatineshits
That's the lie mentioned in the title. Magneto is Omega-level.
hoefty
He is not omega level. Because his power has limitations. If he were omega no plastic cell could hold him he'd simply use metal from (1/?)
hoefty
Farther away. Don't trust move interpretations much, no omega level mutant has been portrayed at full power. Omega level is like (2/?)
hoefty
Franklin Richards who can change reality at a whim such as fighting the mad celestials by making Galactus his herald reincarnating him. 3/4
hoefty
Omega's are essentially limited only by creativity. Even if he hit them, they could just decide he never existed. He'd be An ant among men
Idontgetjokes
He is not unless that was changed since I stopped reading. His power is determined and limited, although he is as 'strong' as some Omegas.
creatineshits
Upon further investigation Magneto is explicitly Alpha level. There are only like 8 confirmed Omegas and most of them are named Summers.
DickFart123
I'm not sure since I've never read a single marvel/dc comic in my life, but could the lie be about the Taskmaster? y'know, batman n stuff
Idontgetjokes
It could be, I haven't read the Marvel JLA crossovers. I know that there was a big 'who would win' debate not too long ago for them though.
creatineshits
He seems to fluctuate depending on the writer. You're probably right
xephyr417
He's not omega
creatineshits
This I s correct.
xephyr417
He hella strong tho
creatineshits
Way hella
10tacles
What if I control gravity, another of the 4 fundamental forces but my control is very limited?
10tacles
Limited that I can slightly change the local gravitational field by being nearby.
dirtymanwhore
Then you are not Omega level. Omega level is only for people who's powers can (or potentially can) impact/destroy the whole world
10tacles
yeah, but I have (limited) control over one of the fundamental forces.
dirtymanwhore
Again, unless that power has the potential to affect the entire world you will not be considered omega level.
Valiton
Just like...YO MAMA!
10tacles
And my father, and neighbor, and pretty much anyone.
OrionRed
Wait...hell froze over??? I'm gonna collect on a certain...thing...from my wife!
Icedpryo
Thanos supposedly killed every other living thing in the universe. He says that in the deadpool vs. Thanos comic
LearningOnImgur
The infinity gauntlet. He snaps his fingers and half of the universe vanishes from existence. That thing is ridiculous.
myusernameismyrealname
i cant wait for the movies, infinity gauntlet is one of my favorite storylines ever
middlehead
Yeah, there was a mini where he successfully killed everything, and then restarted the universe.
Icedpryo
That was a different comic. Also not everything, just notable comic and story characters.
SorDavos
I think you mean Deadpool, not Thanos.
Icedpryo
wait thanos has one where he kills everyone?
SorDavos
I know there's one in which he kills half of the universe, but Deadpool is the one who killed notable comic characters and then classic ones
pronoun
He killed half of all life using the infinity gauntlet.
datma
"The Silver Surfer can remove the Oxygen from water, causing his enemies to become unconscious". His enemies with gills?
TheLavabenderGuy
He just fucking hates fishes.
FillerNameToFillTheBox
Gills filter the oxygen dissolved in water. If there is no oxygen in the water, gilled animals can't breath.
icedmcfurry
No everybody has water in them
Elonth
pssst. Our brain needs oxygen to stay conscious/alive. its transmitted via our blood which is mostly water.
BastardOrphanSonOfAWhoreAndAScotsman
Yeah that's removing O2 from hemoglobin though, not from water.
AuntieNelle
No, it is transmitted via hemoglobin molecules in the blood. You can't breathe the water molecule O2
Elonth
Water is still inside the hemoglobin.
AuntieNelle
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemoglobin#/media/File%3AHeme_b.svg is it?
datma
Pssst oxygen in the blood is attached to hemoglobin, not as a component of water. Duh
Elonth
i'm not talking about the actual oxygen. I'm talking about the water in our blood and the hemoglobin
datma
Then that would be dehydration, not suffocation.
Elonth
would still cause unconsciousness.
Elonth
actual oxygen we use*
AntonioStark
I love comics and all. But these posts bug me. "The writer made this up about the character."
djethex
I'd much rather read a list of interesting plot lines.
guttwerk
Yeah, especially the Iceman stuff, did his omega level status magically appear at the turn of the century?
YourFavoriteFriend
Wow amazing the things people can accomplish with a little imagination. Incredible. Whodudathunkit
YourFavoriteFriend
This comment was drippin with sarcasm. How do you not get that? How??
Veradux
There's a limit. Once you give Spiderman ultrasupergenius intelligence, you're not writing characters anymore. You're writing a plot device.
YourFavoriteFriend
This comment was drippin with sarcasm. How do you not get that? How??
Veradux
We could see that. You were just bein' a dick about it.
YourFavoriteFriend
I really don't think you did based on your comment. Also didn't realize you were so sensitive. Sorry bb
ChronoTimer
Love comics but I agree. Not everyone needs to be that smart to be capable of making things
FlareonTheFalseProphet
FlareonTheFalseProphet
let alone Toxin, Anti-Venom, or any of the other handful of symbiotes whose names I don't recall off the top of my head
ChronoTimer
I think it has more to do with a nearly unkillable replicating alien parasite than venom in particular
samsonguy920
The symbiote is what is called Venom. It don't matter who it's wrapped around. Eddie Brock is but a chassis.
ThanatosElNyx
Also Doom is trying to save humanity.
Larkos
Red Skull is also a street level villain without the Cosmic Cube. Hydra is bad but manageable.
Larkos
Red Skull is also a street level villain without the Cosmic Cube. Hydra is bad but manageable.
FlareonTheFalseProphet
Red Skull is a genius strategist and can fight on par with Captain America, Hydra is an enormous organization with Nazi based ideals, 1/2
FlareonTheFalseProphet
vast resources, and alien technology, neither can be dismissed like that 2/2
Larkos
win against the Marvel Universe and it required the Cosmic Cube. Yes Red Skull has been a big threat before but that was solo. 2
Larkos
Red Skull's "strategy" has always been suspect. And yes Hydra is a big bad but they never win. Secret Empire seems to be their first major 1
Larkos
Red Skull, even with his organization, is just not the same level of threat that Dr. Doom or Magneto is on their own with their own powers.3
Winterhathcome
Yeah, how is Venom anywhere near, say Galactus?
ChaosKnux
Galactus is a non-threat. He never wants to eat Earth, because they always find him some other planet to eat when he shows up looms.
FlareonTheFalseProphet
also didn't squirrel girl beat him once and get him to eat nuts instead?
tomcat14351
One question, what is the level of mutants in order from lowest to highest? Always wondered, never looked it up.
MagicSquid
It changes from week to week. Also, Magneto is often times considered omega. Time travel through wormholes, destroys planets, etc.
TinyRiickkkk
There's also 'beyond Omega-level' Of which there are only 4 known. Vulcan, Franklin Richards, Matthew Mallory, and Mr. M.
FrankenCube
Betas are run of the mill mutants. Alpha's range from being able to hold their own to destroy entire cities.
FrankenCube
Omega's pose threats to the planet itself. Beyond omega level mutants may as well be gods as they can often warp reality itself.
cKerensky
Pretty Much. Ice Man is a vastly powerful individual.
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IWishIWasBlank
Missed a golden opportunity for an 'I lied' and the educational post in its place is much appreciated. You deserve more than a +1.
creatineshits
They've never clarified what the exact scale is. Anything you find is either fan made or ripped from another IP.
Crowlands
According to the wiki: Dregs: Technically a mutant, but with no real power. Beta/Gamma: Has a power. Neither is officially above the 1/?
Crowlands
other. Alpha: Has a really strong/dangerous power (this is never fully specified). Omega: Power is limitless/has no known limit. 2/?
Crowlands
Beyond Omega: The writers going "this mutant's so strong he's got, like, infinity+1 powers, guys!". SHOULD be Omega, but meh. 3/3
citizentrain
So omega>alpha>beta? But... that's not how the alphabet works.
JumperX
I mean, tier lists in fighter games go from S to A,B,C,etc. Though that I believe originates from the Japanese "Sugoi".
JumperX
I'd like to know if the writers have a reason for the Omega. Or if it's just because it sounds "mega".
guantanamobayxx
It is going by the meanings of the letters, not the letters themselves.
TwoToneeRebel
I forgot the mutants name but he's so powerful he could wipe anyone from existence without even thinking. Dude was way above anything the
TwoToneeRebel
Xmen could ever see. So powerful they didn't even want to confront him but just kill him if that makes any sense.
CovfefetheStrong
Weren't mutants classified by 1-5 values? 1 is average, 5 are Jean Grey / Xavier / Magneto, and it's speculated that even Level 6 exists.
TinyRiickkkk
Not really. Omega was the most recent introduction. All the most powerful mutants used to be defined as Alpha-class. But now 1/2
TinyRiickkkk
for example, Jean is Omega-Level, while Magneto, and Xavier, aren't.
ItsATrap
They don't REALLY use classifications in the 616 universe... except for Omega Level, which are mutants with no known limit to their power.
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toby22
As a beyond Omega level mutant. Iceman is a beyond Omega level mutant because he controls the atoms and slows them down but there are 3/?
BrianMFTurner
Beta is any, alpha is super bad ass, able to begin "the end". Omega is the end. Could literally end it all.
raulote
so, what is Omega Red?
freeemail
some B-rate wolverine villain. russian.
JarlmannViking
And yet the Iceman we were given in the movies was a pushover. Every time. Ass handed to him by a Mystique-robot... I mean wut.
TheLaserRaptor
Iceman didn't realize his potential til later on. Even still, Emma Frost took host of his body and put him to shame with his own powers.
samsonguy920
A movie is only as good as how the writers see the comics themselves and those who see it in the same light.
JacksRagingGallbladder
So alpha is the beginning, and omega is the end? He who thirsts for the waters of life, I give freely
OctopusOccult
Revalations 21:6 the only verse i know
JavaApparition
Pretty sure it's 22:13. Not sure if it stays the same through all versions though. Don't really know how that stuff works.
JacksRagingGallbladder
It was my mother's favourite verse
HeroSky
-I AM
Fireork
THE GREAT MIGHT POO
jakcspellgood
THE PUMPKIN KING!
HeroSky
King of all Kings, Brah
Wabbadabba
Most have the power to alter reality in some way
PartiallyShavedSasquatch
Neither ice man nor Vulcan have that ability, so I don't think that's actually a requirement. Though Franklin Richards and others do.
TwoToneeRebel
Franklin is in a league of his own. Dude walked in on a bunch of Celestial which to us would be gods and turned them into flowers.
PartiallyShavedSasquatch
The silver surfer is the herald of Galactus. Galactus is the herald of Franklin Richards.
Veradux
Honestly, all supers are able to destroy the world, each other, or something like that. They're such grab bags that it's reached that point.
Joec0ld
Not really. Even Magneto, who is very powerful, has an upper limit to his abilities.
Joec0ld
Ice Man could bring about a new ice age by freezing all of Earth's water. Sounds Omega to me
PartiallyShavedSasquatch
Ice man can cool things to 0k. Meaning he can literally bring about the heat death of the universe. Depending on the writer.
Joec0ld
Vulcan's powers are similar to Havoc's, but he's able to absorb and discharge greater amounts of energy. Like, world shattering amounts.
PartiallyShavedSasquatch
True. But that is not reality alteration. It's been stated that he can control all energy in the same way ice man can control heat.
Legomaniac91
I know Omega is the highest level, those are the one capable of casually destroying planets and small stars.
SHiNiXiA
As well as create them at will. Reality at their beck and call.
TheOnewiththeLongDong
There is Beyond Omega tho
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
Omega is code for "if this one goes rogue, we're all fucked to hell with no recourse."
danemackey
Weird then that ice man is considered omega. The movies made him kinda wimpy
citaria
The movies also made Rogue wimpy which is bullshit
DaveBobert36
In the comics he started off pretty wimpy, he could only control snow at first.
MightyGamer0
Ice Man effectively controls the energy in things; the vibration and can slow things down to absolute zero (iirc)
SuckItTrebek9001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJNnYYip_zk
boevis
At one point Emma Frost mind controls him and realizes his abilities aren't just creating ice, he basically just breaks physics. A while >
boevis
later he gets stuck in ice form because of a wound (he thinks), and tracks her down to fix him by showing him how to use his powers. After>
boevis
that, he has nearly perfect control of being able to decrease the energy of matter.
FrogurtRocks
It didn't make sense to me that in a later meme, Magneto is listed as an Alpha level mutant.
creatineshits
That's the mistake. Magneto is an Omega-level.
cowarddogcourage
Should be. But neither him nor prof x have ever officially been given the title in any comic. They're Alphas. Their powers have limits.
PlesiosaurWithElementsOfAnIdeaOfTheLochNessMonsterBoy
I just wish Jubilee retained her powers, she could have been omega level with more training.
YouDiedTRAGIC
Pretty sure omega is the highest, but that's all I know.
Raelic
There is "above Omega" level mutants. I think only like 2. Franklin Richards, and some other dude.
Winterfox
Matthew Malloy and probably Legion with his neural switchboard
Raelic
Matthew Malloy was the other guy I was thinking about, thank you. He and Franklin can do basically anything with just a thought.
Hcrld
Isn't Santa also an Omega mutant? Stop time and warp space.
Raelic
Yes, But we were discussing Above Omega level.