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shepahrdjhon
you don't even need to go that sci fi. Red Dawn exists. I haven't seen that disguising propaganda but I am sure Wolverines were not called terrorists by American audience. I have also played Red Alert 2 and Agent Tanya was not called a terrorist after Yuri took over Gen Carvelle and President Dugan.
FelonyRaptor
Somehow, less and less people think the Empire is evil
TofuGolem
There are American conservatives who identify with the Empire.
ReginaKasteen
True, and nobody complained about him blowing up the Death Star hospital either.
zenoshogun
Yup, basically how the Haganah or the Irgun came into being.
Huor
That’s pretty stupid.
CallMeMcGyver
Well, FOX tells people what to think and Israel, Russia and the oligarchs tell FOX what to tell people to think and thus the FOX zombies believe being anti-fascist is being a terrorist.
RaekinTheBored
Let’s not forget the rest of mainstream media only now slightly doing real coverage of Israel’s crimes so they can act like they weren’t complicit in Israel’s genocide.
samanthadlcruz
true; but he was a white dude that was lusting for his sister so republicans could totally relate to him
huffnpuff72
It's all about perspective. Which side do you look from?
thematman92
Wait so the guy who joined a radical religion and an anti colonial organization after his family was killed in an unjust attack might be comparable to a modern day terrorist? Are you implying that the rebel alliance who were inspired by the Vietcong are not America in the allegory?
eggmuffin
Yes. Precisely. Well done.
richiWebKing
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1N2hicm41dmJlbXZweDJqMHJpeDI2dnI4OXA1MWVlNnIyYWt3NDBtaiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/LUhUvH4BsfE9USnlPd/200w.webp
purpledd
You see... Palestine doesn't have a right to defend itself. Only Israel is allowed to defend itself by indiscriminately bombing everything and everyone. It's ok for the IDF to kill babies. Don't be antisemitic.
Beardedgeek72
All the Palestinians have is the fact that they apparently hung around in that area before the reconstruction of Israel. Stupid people. (sarcasm ffs).
IHaveAGuyForEverything
The other side probably did lol
IveGotaWeePropositionforyou
Theres some movies about that i think
CatsIsTheAnswer
AmIAUniquePersonality
"My rebel is your terrorist." -Andor S2
Quixus
Remember Rambo III? The Taliban were depicted as the freedom fighters.
shepahrdjhon
Also Charlie Wilson's War where the show the Taliban being made, complete with cameos from Zia ul Haq. They only show it as a bad thing in a few scenes.
BuckDitkis
Well, the difference is, Luke didn't murder the Max Rebo band and their fans at a concert and take innocent Moisture farmers hostage first. Not condoning what Isreal is doing but we shouldn't forget the whole story.
Vacamariposa8
This is such crap
seenunseen
Huh, fictional movie is your argumentative basis versus reality...
nesurame
you ever hear of a little thing called allegory?
seenunseen
Nah, i'm just looking at shadows in a cave
PorneliusHubertII
I mean....the empire did.
jackal696
Hence "rebel scum" was born
elvisdumbledore
I thought I remembered someone saying exactly that but I can't find the words, terrorism or terrorist in the OG 3 scripts.
Maybe it was Palpatine in a prequel?
UnlimitedTrickPony
George Lucas mentioned that the template for the rebellion was the resistance in Vietnam which fits the time of release as the first Star Wars movie came out in the 70s
AgamemnonsMemes
Its also very clear that the Empire are Nazis and yet there are still people NOW that say 'man its really hard to justify the empires actions now' or 'man i hate that they made the empires such cartoon bad guys'
ReginaKasteen
Yeah but George Lucas says a lot of shit.
freakdiablo
George Lucas can say the sky is blue and I'd go outside to check.
scottvardy
oof... it got personaly..
Welcome2Machine
Well, he's white, so.....
astrangehop
He's so white he's a 19 year old that builds models. Of transport ships.
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
medimr
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walnutbreath
What about the Death Star II? https://youtu.be/iQdDRrcAOjA?si=XhIRW_aK-RbX6J72
medimr
There is *literally* an expression for this: One man's "terrorist" is another man's "freedom fighter." Luke and the Rebels were 100% terrorists in the eyes of the Empire and it supporters.
But I imagine the supporters of Israel would chafe at the idea that they're being compared to a regime lead by some dude called "The Dark Lord." Though the Nazi comparison doesn't phase them, so who knows...
newsguycraigevans
They had no trouble labeling the IRA as terrorists during The Troubles. It's all about who you are fighting.
walnutbreath
Bingo.
ijdod
That. And geopolitics, realpolitics, and just how muddy the situation actually is. And decades later, just whose propaganda bullshit you believe.
shepahrdjhon
not to the same level I think. Derry Girls shows the IRA in a sympathetic light and the British government had no problems with it.
potatomonkey
Yeah, but how many decades later was that show made?
shepahrdjhon
around 3 decades. The show is set in the 90s and even has a brief cameo from Chelsey Clinton. Meaning not only the British government but also the US government doesn't mind IRA being shown like this.
AnonymousBach
The lack of raping and hostage taking probably helped with that.
medimr
You think no Rebel soldier ever raped anyone, or took any hostages? Adorable.
AnonymousBach
I think we probably wouldn't have gotten the Empire Strikes Back if it'd had been show in a New Hope though.
RaekinTheBored
Well there really isn’t any proof of mass rape by Hamas and Israelis literally held a pro-rape rally to free their soldiers that were raping Palestinians prisoners, sooo I guess we can easily see which see is the lesser of two evils.
AnonymousBach
"Believe All (Non Jewish) Women!"
RaekinTheBored
Brother, if the country that has lied nonstop (Israel) tells you the sky is blue, you should question it.
Also, only a moron would conflate Israel with all Jews. Their propaganda LOVES it when you do though!
AnonymousBach
I appreciate your economy with the truth.
RaekinTheBored
Indeed, and I appreciate yours with reality.
purpledd
The mass rape claims were retracted by Israeli media. https://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2025/Jan/06/we-dont-have-any-complainants-israeli-prosecutor-says-dept-failed-to-gather-evidence-on-oct-7-mass-rape-claims And Israel has had thousands of Palestinian hostages for years (including children and women) that you don't seem to care about. Do you support IDF raping them? https://www.savethechildren.net/news/palestinian-children-israeli-military-detention-report-increasingly-violent-conditions
AnonymousBach
Yes, the very Israeli New Indian Express. I'm familiar with their coverage of local Tel Aviv issue.
purpledd
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you wouldn't be able to see them clearly point to the Israeli source in the second paragraph: https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/yokra14200599
AnonymousBach
You know, I've long suspected there's a correlation between illiteracy and pro-Hamas fanboys, thank you for providing data for that. Someone saying it will be difficult to prosecute rapes is very different from someone saying mass rapes didn't happen. After you've completed Hooked on Phonics, give this a read https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/oct-7-sexual-violence-united-nations-reasonable-grounds-1.7133305
purpledd
I've long suspected a correlation between illiteracy and pro-Genocide fanboys, thank you for providing evidence of that. Quoting an article a year older which says there's a chance rape occurred is certainly the shining proof we were waiting for. Some allegations in this article are known false - specifically captives weren't raped (except the poor lady raped by the Israeli influencer). Israel going from we have irrefutable proof to we actually don't have evidence inspires lots of confidence.
purpledd
And since you Zionists all seem to have trouble with this - let's be clear. Hamas terrorism is evil. Israeli terrorism precedes Hamas and is 50x worse. Hamas is a problem. Israel is the bigger problem. And the easiest proof of that is seeing how Israel treats Palestinian Christians and the West Bank not ruled by Hamas.
IchtacaSebonhera
I don't know, the IDF seems to be doing a whole lot of raping and mutilating of prisoners and some people still claim they're the good guys?
AnonymousBach
What does that have to do with the price of beer?
DisgruntledFerret
You're the one who brought up rape in Gaza, so you have no right to call it unrelated to what you just said.
sparky2212
But what you said IS unrelated. There was peace on October 6 2023. There hasn't been peace since, and this is because of the attack on October 7, which included rape and kidnapping. Israel did not attack Palestine. Hamas, the terrorists in charge of Palestine, did attack Israel.
DisgruntledFerret
You can't commit rape or genocide in self-defense. Stop it. Stop trying to justify genuine evil.
RaekinTheBored
Imagine thinking the Apartheid that has been ongoing for decades was peaceful for Palestinians.
I guess Jim Crow south was just a happy-go-lucky time for black people in America too.
purpledd
200+ Palestinians (including kids) killed in 2023 before Oct 6 is not "peace." The blockade for ~2 decades was not "peace." Shooting 30,000+ unarmed protestors from 2018-2019 was not "peace." Also see Israeli terrorism in the West Bank not ruled by Hamas. Btw, that indisputable rape evidence claim was retracted by Israeli media. https://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2025/Jan/06/we-dont-have-any-complainants-israeli-prosecutor-says-dept-failed-to-gather-evidence-on-oct-7-mass-rape-claims
AnonymousBach
I'm just pointing out that you wouldn't be cheering for Luke Skywalker if he'd gone on a raping spree. Well, I wouldn't. You Hamas fanboys probably would.
DisgruntledFerret
If you don't already understand that rape, even as revenge done by supposedly good guys to the family and friends of bad guys, is bad, I don't think I can pull you back. May God have mercy on your soul.