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DukeSliscus
is uh... is this not normal? I feel like this is just how people are.
BestJackalope
My son is this way. If you ask him to do a chore, he will ask why. If you ask him to help you with a chore, no questions, just hops on over and helps!
BREED09
As a strong willed former child. I am glad to see this put into words.
Raisinsarenasty
I have 2 of these
digiorno88
I feel like this is another generic descriptor that a lot of people will attach themselves to. I don't consider myself "strong willed" but most of what is expressed I relate to fully
ASquirrelNamedLloyd
My ex needed the why behind every request and that shit was exhausting. I just like flowers, dude.
Zeddicuszull
This was me in grade school. I would not give a singular fuck about teachers if they were not my homeroom teachers. Rando ass adults giving me orders was no go as they tried to punish me by sitting me in a room by myself thinking the isolation would be a negative but fuck em I love that shit.
In 6th grade I corrected a teacher in front of the class because he was wrong and I proved him wrong.
mixiekins
What's great is when they have that (oppositional defiance disorder) plus autism and ADHD they end up wanting (and asking for!) the reason why, but tune out immediately after, so you end up explaining things multiple times rapid fire, but they still only retain about half of what you say. Even better, you get an incredibly expensive diagnosis done then find that there's multiple-years-long wait lists for a developmental behavioral practitioner visit to even prescribe a plan to cope with it.
macatProblemCreator
Can I message per chance? I'm in the same boat!
activeracer28
In other words, treat your kid with respect, show them value, and talk to them. All the same things we want as adults.
Kbantar
When I was punished without proper explanation or "unjustly", I destroyed something in the house. My mom said that I'd cut curtain, electrical cords, etc. Spankings just pissed me off, so more shit got destroyed. Until they pivoted and started explaining the why. I gained respect for them, and disappointing them became the true punishment.
Agreement2agree
I have one of the kids, and I AM one of these kids. And these strategies work.
CobainsSarcoma
counterpoint: sometimes kids/adults push back for the sake of pushing back. my brother was never interested in collaborating on a solution or receiving guidance; he just wanted to be an asshole. anybody that suggested he do something differently (go to school, get a job, do physical therapy, do anything productive whatsoever) was just being mean to him.
RooGryphon
then let those types die in the consequences of reality, which does NOT give a fuck about them. wanna just be a dick to just be a dick while on the job. gtfo. just go. get off my clock and stop wasting everyone's time with your bullshit attitude etc
Becker37
I treat my child as an equal. I'm still the parent but it's their life too. I'm a bit of a pushover when comes to certain things and hard with others. God knows the world does not treat them kindly.
AmericasTorturedBrow
It sounds like Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA). Also known as Pervasive Drive for Autonomy. It is a type of autism that is recognized in the UK, but not at all in the US.
People with PDA perceive many interactions and even internal cues as demands that set off their threat response that can lead to meltdown and eventually burnout. When you break it down, most things in a kids world can be perceived as a demand. Brush your teeth, go to school, do homework, etc. It’s exhausting.
bikergeek6249
Serious question: what's the difference between this and Oppositional Defiant Disorder?
SoGrosslyIncandescent
Not an expert by any means, but ODD sounds like it is describing an angry and possibly violent outburst and a held grudge against any authority, where this seems to be describing someone who resists specifically the "because I said so" style of authority but will cooperate in a respectful environment where the logic behind requests is provided. I would imagine there is a lot of overlap and you'd need a proper mental health professional to really separate the two.
onlyhalfghost
at least when I was a child, ODD was a diagnosis that was primarily used for "this child isn't a doll, and therefore should be drugged"
NomDeImguerre
Works also for adults, btw.
zylokun
Biggest thing this leaves out: ADMIT THAT YOU WERE WRONG. They notice that you are just trying to end the argument without accountability and it is the biggest reason shitty parents never see their kids after 18. YOU WERE WRONG. ACCEPT THAT
friendofafriendofyourfriend
Oh boy this is me. I've always known to be like this. It shows up specially when people tell you to do things even if you wanted to do them and you know they are important and now you just HAVE to fight back because you don't want them to believe you're doing things because they asked you to, rather than because you wanted to, and that you'll let yourself be bossed around. On the other hand, anytime I know someone needs my help I'll drop everything I'm doing to help them until the deed is done
friendofafriendofyourfriend
Now that I'm older I manage it better but god damn it still sucks when someone, family in particular, bosses you around "because we're family you HAVE to do it"
Shitzamboni
As someone like this and with a narcissistic mother growing up, yeah it's fucking *rough*.
ZeroclockGaming
yeah well whatever, I dont really subscribe to this or the term "strong-willed"
LostCaterpillar
This so-called "institute" looks like another grift and as best I can tell "strong-willed children" doesn't actually mean anything. At least none of the advice here is harmful, so I guess that's nice. Looking it up other (christian) sites say you should hit strong willed children...
It's pretty disturbing how many people fall for complete BS.
RighteousRaven
I've always been like this. I was just told I was stubborn and needed to behave.
ZeroclockGaming
yeah...and that was correct.
RighteousRaven
Nope. It wasn't.
VaultGirl69
This sounds like the child is just being logical. Not being easily manipulated and asking questions when something seems wrong or doesn't make sense seem like good things. Are we punishing kids for critical thinking now?
thotterpop
I have heard "critical thinking" used in the wrong way so often, now (usually when people just mean to say, "thinking ahead") that I'm annoyed when I see it used. But in this case, you're good.
VaultGirl69
I do understand the meaning of the phrase. But I'm the kind of weirdo looks through etymology books out of boredom. Nationalism is also a bad word, regardless of context.
Shitzamboni
As a person who's been like this for 30 years - yes very much so. I'd say in like 90% of personal experiences, the answer you get is just "shut the fuck up and do as I say". Can't say it helped with my development or schooling.
VaultGirl69
I had no trouble with schooling. Rather, my questioning of my family's religion. That I was bullied and abused by the church and my parents didn't help. Professionally, I work in tech (talking a sabbatical) and could not move forward with things unless I totally understood the rationale. This didn't happen often, mind you, but those who made demands saw it as frustrating. Once I understood what was wanted, I often came up with a better solution. Curiosity should be nurtured.
Callipygius
Maybe some kids are just being logical, but also some kids are defiant even when that goes against logic. You can be honest and present them with a true and good rationale for doing something that they don't even mind doing, like brush your teeth to keep them healthy, or please flush the toilet after going to the bathroom, yet they won't do it purely because you asked them to do it. This is my kid, and it is incredibly frustrating.
VaultGirl69
Oh, I see. I was a bit feral as a child, but that was from neglect. Usually a parent would brush their daughter's hair. But, no one did. It got pretty bad and they had to hold me down to cut it bob-length because I'd cry from them getting a brush through it. It was not a good environment. I still didn't have any trouble with school, surprisingly. But this was also back when class sizes were at most 12 kids.
KatInTheCorner
Yep. Wish I could have given this to my parents growing up. I grew up in a "because I said so" house.
Sibling and I learned very early not to trust authority, and that if we didn't respect or trust someone's judgment, we weren't going to follow their rules.
Valkyr1987
My dad would explain the why, my mom did not. Pretty sure we were just leverage against our dad to her
MrsHowVeryDareYou
I’m here to confess although I swore up and down I would “never say because I said so to my own children!!!” it leaks out occasionally. If you tried 47 gentle ways to explain and reason and it’s still not working, sometimes you just gotta break out the big guns.
Also a big fan of “Because I’m mean and I like to torture children for no reason! You caught me!” which actually works pretty well when used sparingly.
Doobiedog
And when "because I said so" people become management, oh boy do I want to quit them, and often have. If you can't respect your kids or your employees, fuck you. Just makes you look like you don't know what you are doing, are power tripping, and trying to keep your ground when you're not qualified to make the decisions you're making. Good parents and good managers communicate and work together with respect for everyone.
darkmind403
For real. I respect someone way more if they explain why they are making a decision, even if I don't agree with it. The corporate jargon bullshit answers make me actively want to sabotage whatever the plan is.
smothatehdecay
Sorry but 24/7 you can't be explaining to your kid the reason for things... Sometimes they just need to listen and be ok with it
Fishkeeper
I mean. Parents really ought to be treating /all/ their kids like this.
textilelover
Some kids get overwhelmed with this sort of approach and just want clear rules, whatever they might be. They don't need to know why, they just want to know that it's consistent and trustworthy.
Fishkeeper
Well, that only rules out one of these things.
vowofloudness
I love the implication that some parent is reading this and thinking "glad my children are weak-willed so this doesn't apply".
Fishkeeper
Let's be real, there are parents who treat their kids like garbage and never think not to unless it causes some kind of problem for the parent. There are definitely people who'd look at this and think "well, my kids obey, so I don't need to do any of this to make them obey", because they think the goal of parenthood is to have your kids obey you rather than to raise happy, functional adults.
howwouldyoudescribeyourself
Ugh, yes! I always tell everyone who's willing to listen that I don't want obediant kids, but healthy and strong ones. I can FEEL my mum's eye rolling everytime ...
charondaboatman
Wow. Someone wrote about me. Fuck. Interesting.
johnnyhasadhd
I thought they were mislabeled autism as "strong willed", because this defines autistic traits.
GreetingsSirAndOrMaamIAmUsingThisFieldToIntroduceMyselfAscrsklr
A lot of overlap here. I've been studying up on autism and I'm only halfway through a few books in m rotation and this is like half the mannerisms mentioned. There should be a book to discuss these differences or something.
Zalm
I was about to say,
"Did this 'Institute of Child Psychology' just watch me as a kid or something?"
TinaEveFox
It's good to know there's lots of other people that feel like this. I don't think I ever did anything as a child unless someone could appropriately explain why I was doing it, and if they couldn't I shut right down.
charondaboatman
The whole, “Because I said so!” response to my question of “But why…?” Got me in loads of trouble with my father. Never backed down. Got me in even more trouble, lol.
StabbyMcMurder
This was me as a kid, and my kid now. The school doesn't want to deal with him. I've never had a problem with him because we have °°°·.°·..·°¯°·._.· 🎀 𝒸𝓸𝓂𝓂𝓊𝓃𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓉𝒾𝓸𝓃 🎀 ·._.·°¯°·..·°.·°°°
ZeroclockGaming
Telling a kid what to do and to listen when told is also communication, if the kid resists all of that then that is just a problem.
willjak
You misspent obedience 😅
Deadredmaniac
Shh thats heresy talk! No one will agree with you if you dont 100% agree by their opinion. If what you do is different downvotes forever!
Bacxaber
yourfriendlyneighbourhoodtzimisce
In fairness to the school, °·..·°¯°·._.· 🎀 𝒸𝓸𝓂𝓂𝓊𝓃𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓉𝒾𝓸𝓃 🎀 ·._.·°¯°·..·° is much easier to engage in & nurture when it's 1-on-1 w/ someone who loves & knows you vs when it's 1 exhausted adult trying to wrangle 30 kids and abide by the curriculum requirements of their job on a strict deadline. This isn't me saying 'kids should obey adults without question!!1!' or anything, but schools have different rules & restrictions than home, & parents should teach their kids to be mindful of that.
StabbyMcMurder
Oh I completely agree. The problem comes in when the school recognizes that the child needs to be dealt with in a certain way in elementary school, but then decides in middle school to throw all that out the window so that the new principal can show off that there are fewer students in special ed than there were BEFORE she was hired and that's because she's a no nonsense educator who knows how to get things done... I may be biased when it comes to my specific situation.
gypsyspot
I would consult the school psychologist. They are probably better prepared to determine your child's needs over the principle. Also, you can consult a doctor for anything requiring a diagnosis. But it all sounds frustrating, and I sympathize with you.
lizardbones
Your mistake is assuming that all schools have a psychologist. My schools didnt even have a nurse. just the room where a nurse would have worked if there was one
gypsyspot
Yeah, I mean, obviously you can only use resources that are available. I choose not to raise children in an area with such standards, but people may have few choices.
twoamartist
What if that child is 30 years old?
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SoGrosslyIncandescent
requiring respect, resisting manipulation, requiring an explanation of the whys behind a decision, valuing personal autonomy...I'll be honest none of these sound like childish behaviors, they sound like being an informed and responsible adult.
Aurentis
An adult knows that there are times you defer to others, there are times you let things go, that you pick your battles, and there are times you put your foot down and refuse to be moved. A responsible adult chooses which is appropriate in any given situation. A child has it chosen for them by unthinking reaction.
A parent's job is to raise a child into an adult that can temper their instinct with wisdom.
An adult who cannot, is failing to behave as an adult and should be treated like a child.
keystotheairlock
Fortunately or unfortunately, the same applies.
PhilFromAccounting
Or in their 50s I mean what?
Therealalej
Jumper cables
twrgreen1
Yeah... This is me
shitheadtookmyname
Then that child's wife is gonna keep making it worse instead of taking a second to remember the goal is more important than doing things her way
FMC01
Or POTUS
unbreathless
Go to therapy
SirDalud
Or 45
MrsHowVeryDareYou
It’s me. I am child.
vernicator
I was going to say...replace child with "person". If you are in a terrible job or a job that has degraded to one you will have this result.
Teas
A-asking for a friend-
3Davideo
Or 82?
JackDeHearts
Blame it on my ADD baybeh
Aurentis
This is understandable for a kid, but in an adult this is just unthinking belligerence.
A parent's job is to work with their child and teach them that, no, they can't always have their way, and sometimes they do have to respect or even obey others. And, of course, to give them the tools to recognize when to apply that lesson and when to stand their ground.
Adults need to be able to negotiate society. And society is compromise.
RumailMaxlowBaronVonAlabasterSerenitydePeriwinkleXXIII
Yes and no. I don't know if you mean "this is just unthinking belligerence" as some sort of write-off where you declare the person in question wrong for being like that and wash you hands of any further thought... but if you *do* mean it like that, you're responding to being right in the wrong way.
You pull your hand away when the stove burner is hot. That's how you're wired. If someone said that was wrong of you, and even if they were *right*, you wouldn't be any more capable of not pulling (c)
RumailMaxlowBaronVonAlabasterSerenitydePeriwinkleXXIII
your hand off the burner.
The point is how the person is wired. If you think it's wrong to be wired like that, well, sure. But calling it wrong isn't doing anything about it *now*. If it's wrong, then the best thing you can do is understand the people around you and extend what respect you can as you work with them. If no one earlier in their life taught them what you think they need to know the only way they stand a chance now is if you're willing to do what you can.
kaarbaakimgr
That example is too simplistic. Try this: your supervisor asks you cleanup your workspace midday. You’ve got three more projects and you’re a messy person. You ask them “why?”
They say “I don’t have time to explain…just do it.” You don’t do it because it doesn’t make sense.
RumailMaxlowBaronVonAlabasterSerenitydePeriwinkleXXIII
If we're both going to make up imaginary people, I don't see what stops mine from being useful. What would you do to try to connect with someone in your example?
Aurentis
I do not buy for a second that a mature, rational, thinking adult cannot, through the application of reason and experience, decide to do as someone has instructed. The way they are "wired" is a knee-jerk reaction. They are not incapable of thought or learning.
People are meant to learn that their instinctive reaction is a advisory, not an edict, to be followed when appropriate.
Adults who have not yet have a responsibility to do so.
raberscoob
I'm still wired the same way and going out of my way to act in defiance of my wiring is taxing af. People in general could be more accommodating.
NaughtyGod1
I'm 50 and every word of this still applies. It will come as no surprise that I have done several stints in Jail and have virtually no respect for any type of authority. Also, punishments (of any kind) do not deter me.
Aurentis
Ah, yeah, had lot of you during Covid. Mostly refusing to mask up and taking ivermectin.
ColonelPotato
That's a different issue. That's an issue of willful ignorance, gotta remember correlation isn't causation
Aurentis
Lotta overlap between willfully ignorant and those with a five-decade record of refusing to do anything intelligent on the sole basis that someone told you that you should.
FoamingToad
Told that you should != told why you should. Similar position to Naughtygod1 but I still masked during covid because the medical and scientific guidance suggested it would reduce transmission factors. There's the why.
FoamingToad
Same.
RunsNakedThroughSwamps
How I picture you:
NaughtyGod1
You have no idea how accurate that is... If even 1/10th of the plans I have in motion bear fruit, I will be committing potentially millions of federal crimes; specifically class C & B felonies.
RunsNakedThroughSwamps
Are these things you want to do because you want to do them, or is it just for the sake of defiance? Not meaning to judge, I'm just curious about what motivates people.
NaughtyGod1
It's desire. At 50 years old, I VERY rarely do things 'just to be defiant' and when I do, it's to prove a point & is usually trivial. IE "You're not *allowed* to do ." so they need to be shown they hold no authority on . People tolerate a whole shitload more than they should. Well, other people...
NaughtyGod1
My outsized sense of Justice simply will not allow me to sit idly by while Fascists exist. I got my last Imgur account permabanned for unapologetically doxxing Nazi's on this site. I'm not going to stop; I simply create an alias for the same email address I used for the initial account, add a number to the username & make a new account. Fuck the capricious, fascist mods. If it gets bad enough, I'll write a script to automate the account creation process
Callipygius
As a parent of a possibly future you, do you have any recommendations for me on how to help my kid?
NaughtyGod1
In the same category of ALWAYS needing a WHY, I also had to learn damn near every lesson of life the Hard Way. It wasn't until I was almost 40 before I started to consciously take lessons from other peoples mistakes.
I suspect if I had been given more answers to my questions, some of those harder lessons could have been avoided.
I STILL catch myself saying 'well maybe The Authority on this is wrong; lets test it and see."
NaughtyGod1
The single most important thing I can share is I NEEDED a "why" for literally everything or I would just outright disregard the request/demand. My Mom used the phrase "Because I said so!" so many times I eventually just straight-up stopped listening or obeying her. At all. For ANY reason (it was clear she didn't know ANYTHING). If she had just GIVEN ME A REASON (even if it was dumb) I would have been understanding, instead of obstinate.
NaughtyGod1
I would have been fine with "Because I am tired and don't want to deal with it." or "Because your an asshole." AT LEAST THOSE WERE ACTUAL REASONS (albeit not..great ones) but vague, non-answers were ignored & I assumed you didn't have ANY reason why.
My Mom was also very emotionally manipulative & that has completely fucked up my emotional gauges. She cried so much that I get ANGRY when people cry around me; I assume manipulation even when there is none. Makes relationships.. challenging...
Callipygius
Gotcha, thanks for sharing. I'll be mindful of the "why" with my son
TheFontSnob
The trouble really starts when the reasons have to be good *in the child's opinion at the moment*, not just good reasons. What counts as a good reason one day may not work another day. I mean, eventually they've all figured out that we know what we're talking about and still come to us for advice (the oldest is close to 40), but MAN teen years are tough.
HandsomePenguin
If you use the truth as the reason, then you never have to search for the "Proper" reason.
TMCybersnark
... We're supposed to know what we're talking about?
Zalm
Depends if they were taught how to source information and learned the benefit of quickly extracting information from sources. I say this as I was a "troublesome teen" who was also raised to quickly learn when taught properly. If I was explained something, and it didnt make sense, I'd ask for a breakdown or to use simpleton terms(wish I had the term "explain like I'm 5" when I was a teen) and try to quickly grasp the expertise being presented. /1
Zalm
But if they couldnt "break it down" for me, then I had no trust in what they were doing, what their process was, or their knowledge of a subject. I find that someone who is able to break down complex processes into simple analogies has experience and knowledge, and both in spades. They are able to see similarities in their expertise despite the subject not even pertaining to said expertise. Its why some of the best teaching examples are analogies or similarities.
shadownightclaw
I imagine for some adults, it's knowledge and experience which had translated into intuition far as what to do, etc. Yet when asked to explain why, some might have difficulty breaking that intuition down in a way even they themselves could understand to explain why something needs to be done, etc.
Zalm
Experience, yes. But knowledge? no. You cannot be knowledgable and not be able to explain it. I am able to bake a cake from scratch because I have experience and know how to follow my mothers recipe(the important part), but I will be damned to explain wtf happens in that oven to make cake batter(which tastes gross) into cake(which tastes amazing) because, in that situation, I am experienced, but not knowledgeable.
Like morel mushrooms are deadly until you cook them. Why? No clue.
shadownightclaw
Pretty much. At best, we just know it's some sort of chemical process. Much like sautéing onions takes them from a strong flavor, and makes them into something a bit sweeter in flavor.
While we know something happens when doing a particular thing, we can't always explain 'why' it happens that way. Or at least, not without research first.
TheFontSnob
Entirely valid. Today's conflict was "you need to take a shower, you smell. Smelling bad is socially awkward and your peers WILL notice. You hate being noticed."
The counter-argument was "but I REALLY don't want to." So. Win some, lose some. It's the emotional decisions that are toughest to deal with.
Zalm
Even the strongest of arguments cannot be overcome by the laziness of humanity.
Thats not necessarily being strong willed, thats just being lazy. Lazy and stubborn. I'm not personally sure how to handle the inability to overcome not wanting to shower or bathe, I used to enjoy it myself. Not a germaphobe, per se, but I just appreciated being clean. Perhaps bring up a crush or something, and explain that the first thing some people notice is scent. Its evolutionary.
IGotTheMusicInMe425
I wonder if you could show them pictures of bacterial and fungal infections and be like, "Is that what you want? Best get to scrubbing, then."
RomanValkre
Lots of truth here. I know myself, and if it comes to a contest of wills. I will burn what ever I have too, consequences be dammed.
altxatu
That’s healthy and emotionally mature.
thotterpop
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Wapusk
Had a teacher, "special ed/behavioral", for three years... he would call me Francis, like the epinomious talking mule, to my face on account of how stubborn I was. Fuck that guy.
In his defense, he was ill equipped and insufficiently educated, budgets, teaching methods, etc.. to deal with us. That being said, Fuck that guy.
ButtersTheCat
That determination is a valuable tool, when utilized properly. There's nothing I can't achieve, if I'm determined to do something. Just try to tell me I can't.
thotterpop
Don't shit your pants at your favorite restaurant
ButtersTheCat
That's not how it works...
Woestkonijn
My battle with my manager every single day. So far he keeps losing.
AzazelOmega
How to say you voted for trump without saying you voted for trump
L1ttl3J1m
Did you not read the "detest and resist manipulation tactics" part?
datphone777365
Tbf redshits arent victims of manipulations. They are willing participants.
datphone777365
Ehhh, okay while that might be the.most likely too id wager ole bernie falls under this type. Guy got arrested for his principles until he figured it was better to shift the system from within.
AzazelOmega
How did that wok out for him? Aside from being a meme
datphone777365
Ya mean besides being a respected public official?
NaughtyGod1
"I don't need to win; I need you to lose." is my approach to every confrontation I find myself in
readbackmonkey
What a god damn exhausting way to live.
thotterpop
That sounds very unhealthy
OnlyCrabs
Zalm
1. That is a very...box shaped crab
2. It looks like Mr. Crabs.
3. Accurate Username is accurate.
4. WTF is with its eyes?
OnlyCrabs
datphone777365
Have pirate crab.
Rips4w
That sounds like a really fuckin stupid, hateful way to live. Good luck.
NaughtyGod1
I'll be the first to acknowledge it's.... not great. It's a hugely exploitable trait; as long as you, yourself are willing to burn in that same fire. Unfortunately, being aware of the trait & managing the trait (and it's inevitable fallout) are two entirely different problems. I have to entirely avoid situations because I know what will happen; it's a foregone conclusion.
It's also objectively served me well (unfortunately, further positively reinforcing the behavior)
Rips4w
My conflict management method is to reduce. If you (aggressor) are coming at me with some seriously uncool energy or straight up disrespect, I reduce you. You become as important and effectual as a mote of dust. I will deal with you as I deal with everyone. You will not receive an ounce of reciprocal energy or attitude. Your nose will be broken on a wall of indifference and I will wish you a good rest of your day. The only people that can upset me are the people I care about.
NaughtyGod1
It appears you have a FUNDAMENTAL understanding of what Truly Matters. Rare.
I suspect there would be little reason for you & I to be in conflict; I try to never be the aggressor; but will gladly respond aggressively.
datphone777365
Yall are my fav targets for malicious compliance if ya rude... Ill rattle that cage till ya go for broke while making sure it ends in what i need or want. Granted i dont start off that way.
NaughtyGod1
datphone777365
Nihilism sprinkled with absurdism makes dealing with ragers easier, instead of getting of balanced i just start the head games appropriate to the setting. For the most part i tend to match energy.
NaughtyGod1
Oh, we would DEFINITELY get along swimmingly! I myself ascribe to the more Discordian bend of absurdism/nihilism.
. I also tend to match energies and enjoy out-angering the angry & making the uncomfortable, moreso.
datphone777365
My favs are the ones that rely entirely too much on bad faith. I just out stupid their stupid then act like i did none of that and watch em have fits. Cultists are a prime example. Karens i just drown in bately hidden fake concern.