Meanwhile I'm working 5-6 10 hours days. I'm greatly compensated for it though, not salary and get plenty of raises. For salary workers I'd rather have two 11 hour days and one 12 hour day and call it good. 4 days off a week sounds like a dream, regardless of the amount of hours worked in a day.
I always preferred 4 10's over 5 8's cause it was one less day I had to commute and be in the office. But now I work from home and get to make my own schedule, which is 4 days at 6-7 hours each.
I was once a manager on salary and I worked 12 hour shifts, 3 days on then 4 days off, 4 days on then 3 days off. it was like having a mini-vacation every other week.
Weird, what happened? I commented on this days ago, and now it says this post was made 27 minutes ago, and my comment from then is still here, bit it appears as if it's made a few seconds ago... so strange?
those are available where I work, but I've never wanted to do it - though I've considered it more now that I am teleworking more. that said, I had a coworker who did and took every other monday and friday off, so every other weekend was a 4 day weekend for her. also had a coworker who did 9 hour days with 4 hour days every friday
A 40 hour work week is a stupid old standard. Studies have show that most people do not work for most of that. I would say get your shit accomplished and go home.
32 hour work week with pay raises. If you can pay your CEO 300x the median employee, you can afford to give the people actually doing the work proper compensation.
I currently work a 5-5-4 rotation which is based over 28 days.. Longer days (11.42 hours each), but you get two 5 day weekends a month and one 4 day weekend.
Basically, if the work week or weekend starts on a Monday, then it is 4 days, while work weeks and weekends that start on Wednesday or Friday are 5 days. Shifts/weekends only start on Monday, Wednesday and Friday.
This also guarantees two weekends off a month for family time.
Lots of recovery time on days off, and having time off mid week means that it is quieter do to things that most people need to wait until the weekend to do.
I'd rather do 0 x 0's and have the robots do all the work while I do art, eat, and live my life like every other species on this planet does unbothered.
At my old job (tech support for school district) we were giving the option to work 4x10s during the summer (it was a normal job and we worked year round, summers were usually the busiest times that's when all the projects got done). The longer days take some getting used to but the 3 day weekends every weekend were fantastic. An extra day of rest is just so helpful is so many ways!
I currently work a 5-5-4 rotation which is based over 28 days.. Longer days (11.42 hours each), but you get two 5 day weekends a month and one 4 day weekend.
Basically, if the work week or weekend starts on a Monday, then it is 4 days, while work weeks and weekends that start on Wednesday or Friday are 5 days. Shifts/weekends only start on Monday, Wednesday and Friday.
This also guarantees two weekends off a month for family time.
Believe me, none of us who work it ever want a different shift. Taking a week off for vacation gives you 14 days off. Yes they are long days but having 5 days off afterwards makes up for by a lot.
And if you want to work one day of overtime, you still have 4 days to recover.
I've done 4x10s at 2 places I've worked and do the days hit differently and so much better. Tech roles, working 7a-6p with an hour lunch. An hour to plan the day, and an hour to work uninterrupted. One place with a team of 3 we alternated Mondays, Wednesdays, or Fridays off, so 2 of the 3 weeks were always 3 day weekends. Current role I took Tuesdays off to help with a non-profit. Unfortunately I had to go back to 5x8s to accommodate my kid going back into physical school, but I miss it.
Wrong way to do it IMO. The whole point of a 4-day work week is to stress the employee less, making them perform better on the days they show up - you don't get that with 10-hour days! Several studies have shown that switching to four 8-hour days is long-term more productive than staying at five 8-hour days, since people are less stress, have fewer sick days and generally make fewer mistakes and are more productive and happy.
I went to a highschool that experimented with 4x8 (except you had to come in on Friday if you had any overdue homework). It was pretty great, I think it works a lot better overall. 10/10
Seems like most people have a hard enough time getting a raise for 40 hours…. As much as I like the idea I know corporations are going to push back against 32 hours work for 40 hours pay
Who says you have to leave early? And every office I've worked in don't really care if people aren't present for their full hours as long as the work gets done and people are there when needed. But then again my country isn't a capitalist hellscape. Yet.
If you stay all hours, you still lose the two hours of free time every day. People would notice at every job I ever had, office and otherwise, and I live in Denmark. 8 hours is a lot to skip out of...
VosperOfAntarctica
I'll tell you what. I'll work four eights, and you pay me based on my productivity, not by how long I spend moistening your chairs
Moridin23
4 10s would be great instead of the 6 12s I do now. To be fair though I did it to myself
peeopeepee
Meanwhile I'm working 5-6 10 hours days. I'm greatly compensated for it though, not salary and get plenty of raises. For salary workers I'd rather have two 11 hour days and one 12 hour day and call it good. 4 days off a week sounds like a dream, regardless of the amount of hours worked in a day.
RitzBitz25
I always preferred 4 10's over 5 8's cause it was one less day I had to commute and be in the office. But now I work from home and get to make my own schedule, which is 4 days at 6-7 hours each.
rossonerinho
I was once a manager on salary and I worked 12 hour shifts, 3 days on then 4 days off, 4 days on then 3 days off. it was like having a mini-vacation every other week.
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
Weird, what happened? I commented on this days ago, and now it says this post was made 27 minutes ago, and my comment from then is still here, bit it appears as if it's made a few seconds ago... so strange?
dunkum09
those are available where I work, but I've never wanted to do it - though I've considered it more now that I am teleworking more. that said, I had a coworker who did and took every other monday and friday off, so every other weekend was a 4 day weekend for her. also had a coworker who did 9 hour days with 4 hour days every friday
TheFlyingB
A 40 hour work week is a stupid old standard. Studies have show that most people do not work for most of that. I would say get your shit accomplished and go home.
z1chefdaddy1
I have been offered 4 tens many times. It has never lasted and usually ended up 5 twelves.
Helixninja333
32 hour work week with pay raises. If you can pay your CEO 300x the median employee, you can afford to give the people actually doing the work proper compensation.
UnluckyLunkhead
4 days means 20% reduction in travel time and fuel, servicing, depreciation of your car.
Littledirtybirdyfeet
I get off work a 3 every day and work from home. I'd hate 10 hour days and would rather work 5 days a week
Totallyscrewedinaustin
4×10 is fucking awesome! My last job was setup like that, and it was great having a free day during the week for shit like appointments
Travelcedric
I currently work a 5-5-4 rotation which is based over 28 days.. Longer days (11.42 hours each), but you get two 5 day weekends a month and one 4 day weekend.
Basically, if the work week or weekend starts on a Monday, then it is 4 days, while work weeks and weekends that start on Wednesday or Friday are 5 days. Shifts/weekends only start on Monday, Wednesday and Friday.
This also guarantees two weekends off a month for family time.
Travelcedric
Lots of recovery time on days off, and having time off mid week means that it is quieter do to things that most people need to wait until the weekend to do.
McFrazzlestache
I'd rather do 0 x 0's and have the robots do all the work while I do art, eat, and live my life like every other species on this planet does unbothered.
Twinklepot
We did 12 hours three days one week, four the next. Best hours I ever worked.
iotaprime
At my old job (tech support for school district) we were giving the option to work 4x10s during the summer (it was a normal job and we worked year round, summers were usually the busiest times that's when all the projects got done). The longer days take some getting used to but the 3 day weekends every weekend were fantastic. An extra day of rest is just so helpful is so many ways!
ch7leach
I do at least 5 12 hour shifts most weeks....
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
4X10 for the win. I love my shcedule
ZoBrightlance
Guaranteed three day weekend and still getting 40 hours? Heck. That's a start.
njkckbxr
It doesn’t say that you get a three day weekend. You could get Wednesday off.
Travelcedric
I currently work a 5-5-4 rotation which is based over 28 days.. Longer days (11.42 hours each), but you get two 5 day weekends a month and one 4 day weekend.
Basically, if the work week or weekend starts on a Monday, then it is 4 days, while work weeks and weekends that start on Wednesday or Friday are 5 days. Shifts/weekends only start on Monday, Wednesday and Friday.
This also guarantees two weekends off a month for family time.
McFrazzlestache
... no. This sounds like slavery with extra steps.
Travelcedric
Believe me, none of us who work it ever want a different shift. Taking a week off for vacation gives you 14 days off.
Yes they are long days but having 5 days off afterwards makes up for by a lot.
And if you want to work one day of overtime, you still have 4 days to recover.
TankoJoe
As a proud owner of a 4x10, I say go for that. You're going to take one of your days off to be a slothful piece of garbage anyway.
Centroid
4x10 usually ends up being 4x12 but I’d still rather take that for that extra day of pure sloth.
KaminM
I've done 4x10s at 2 places I've worked and do the days hit differently and so much better. Tech roles, working 7a-6p with an hour lunch. An hour to plan the day, and an hour to work uninterrupted. One place with a team of 3 we alternated Mondays, Wednesdays, or Fridays off, so 2 of the 3 weeks were always 3 day weekends. Current role I took Tuesdays off to help with a non-profit. Unfortunately I had to go back to 5x8s to accommodate my kid going back into physical school, but I miss it.
rijstewafels
I do 4x8 but I'm European
MarkoffChaney
As a fellow European; I'm happy with my current 5x6.
bladderinfection
12 hour shifts aternating 3 - 4 days a way is … interesting. Takes some getting used to.
mechanerd
Going from 5x8 to this took some getting used to. At least the alternating days is always Saturday for me.
GrumpyOldMan55
I love it other than I constantly forget which day it is since you have different days off each week.
Slvrdgr
Yuppp, toss in the night shift part, and you get off work a different day than you got in, and now you barely know what month it is.. 🙃
Kyzyl
Or ten shifts of four hours each, spread throughout the week.
or one hundred shifts of just one-hour-and-40-minute each spread throughout the week, assigned by a random algorithm.
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
Wrong way to do it IMO. The whole point of a 4-day work week is to stress the employee less, making them perform better on the days they show up - you don't get that with 10-hour days! Several studies have shown that switching to four 8-hour days is long-term more productive than staying at five 8-hour days, since people are less stress, have fewer sick days and generally make fewer mistakes and are more productive and happy.
Scobragon
You can hide two 30 minute poopins easier in 10 hours than 8 hours though.
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
True, but you still lose two hours of free time every day, and you're two hours more tired once you get home.
conniecpu
I went to a highschool that experimented with 4x8 (except you had to come in on Friday if you had any overdue homework). It was pretty great, I think it works a lot better overall. 10/10
KFGProdigy
That probably would've got me to do my homework...
conniecpu
It was a very good motivator! 😂
ananfro
As long as the wage reflects it.
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
More like doesn't - it should be the same wage for 4 days instead of 5. That is part of the point.
ananfro
Seems like most people have a hard enough time getting a raise for 40 hours…. As much as I like the idea I know corporations are going to push back against 32 hours work for 40 hours pay
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
Right, but the ones who tried it, had good results.
EdmundandHarald365
Opt for 4x10 but just do 4x8 anyway
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
Most places notice if you leave two hours early every day...
EdmundandHarald365
Who says you have to leave early?
And every office I've worked in don't really care if people aren't present for their full hours as long as the work gets done and people are there when needed.
But then again my country isn't a capitalist hellscape. Yet.
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
If you stay all hours, you still lose the two hours of free time every day. People would notice at every job I ever had, office and otherwise, and I live in Denmark. 8 hours is a lot to skip out of...
EdmundandHarald365
Take a long lunch. Get in late and leave early. There's ways around it.