Structure of the Roman Army

Sep 19, 2016 5:07 AM

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There are two main types of soldier, a Legionary is a Roman citizen, an Auxiliary is not. Each of them must supply their own equipment and swear an oath of loyalty to the Emperor.

Legionaries join an Infantry unit as part of a group of eight men, known as a Contubernium, who all share sleeping quarters. New soldiers are stuck with "Fatigues" (Dirty Jobs) until they can secure a specialists post.

10 Contubernia form a Century, with it's own standard bearer (Signifer), Commander of the watch (Tesserarius), Second in Command (Optio), and a Centurion, to lead them all. Six Centuries together make up a Cohort.

10 Cohorts, plus a small cavalry unit, the Equites Legionis (120 Riders) make up the biggest Roman Army unit of them all, The Legion. The Legion's Symbol is the Roman Eagle, born aloft by the Aquilifer. Cohorts in a Legion are numbered 1-10.

Cohort 1 is extra large with five double Centuries. It's Centurions are the senior ranking Primi Ordines, with the most senior of them all being Primus Pilus, or "First File".

The Primus Pilus can be promoted to the Praefectus Castrorum (Camp Prefect) who is in charge of the daily running of the Legion. Outranking the Camp Prefect are seven men, 6 Staff Officers (the Tribuni Angusticlavii and Tribuni Laticlavius).

The seventh is the Commander of the entire Legion, the Legatus. Back in Rome he is a member of the Senate, the Empire's 600 person ruling elite.

All together a single Legion was made up of around 6,000 troops, all of whom Roman citizens.

While the Roman Legionaries are the backbone of the Roman Army, the Auxiliaries, or non-citizens, are the Specialists. In the Auxiliary Cohorts, men recruited across the empires us their talents and abilities in the service of Rome.

One particular area of expertise was Horsemanship. there were Cavalry only regiments (The Alae), a few double strength cavalry units, including the one in Britannia (The Alae Petriana) along with some partially mounted Cohorts.

Some Auxiliary Cohorts served as regular Infantry, organized like the Legionary Cohorts, however the similarities stopped at the Cohort level, Auxiliaries are part of no bigger unit, there is no Auxiliary Legion, nor a Legate to command them.

Instead, each Auxiliary Cohort has it's own high ranking commander, the Prefectus Cohortis, who leads these more compact and maneuverable units.

When an Auxiliary soldier has served the Roman Army for 25 years, a great reward awaits. He is granted a plot of land, a pension, and all of the rights of a Roman citizen, shared by his family, and all the generations of his name to follow.

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Rome - We're not great at a lot of shit, but we can manage shit real well.

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No mention of the Artillery?

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"My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions..." All makes sense now :)

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Thank you sirv

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Cool stuff!

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I love the fact that Trajan opted to build a big fucking wall just to keep those crazy Scottish fuckers out of the empire.

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The final slide being, what happened when they met the Scots ?

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They built a wall, and they made the Britons pay for it!

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If you like this stuff check out the podcast The History of Rome.

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After the Marian reforms men didn't have to supply their own equipment anymore. He is renowned for the loyalty of the Primigenia legion 1/2

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Because of this, most men in his legion couldn't afford to join the army until his reforms were introduced

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Extra for experts : This applies a bit to the Republic post-Marius but mostly to the Principate, Dominate changes things dramatically.

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Yep. Dominate army was more centralized, units became smaller, and the army became more versatile.

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What's a Roman's favorite way to travel? Legion Air

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If you're interested, this is Dr Rufus Fears and he is the best story teller of the Greek and Roman empires https://youtu.be/fqgQ1B2Jjz0

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Obligatory "I didn't know I needed this".????

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It is important to mention that much of this changed at various point in the republic/empire. The time served increases from 20-25 years 1/2

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Also at certain times many were not released even after they served there time.

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Question is, how many survived to 25 years?

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Most of them actually, casualty rates for the Roman army were low and the average soldier lived to about 55. Farmers to 35, miners to 25.

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Which one is Rory?

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Oh, hello, "contubernium". Welcome to the list of big words I'll start using way too much in order to sound smarter

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You sound very photosynthesis.

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Haha "recruited"

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You'd be surprised, but as long as you weren't a slave, many would CHOOSE to join the army for the mentioned above rewards.

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Army was a very important tool for social mobility by the 1st century BCE. Finding volunteersoldiers was not a problem until much later on.

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See the world, kill exotic people and potentially take a metric fuckton of loot. Also, some Legions were in mind-numbingly dull areas>>

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>>with almost no action (Spain for example) and they ended up living an easy life and sat their making money>>

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>>on the other hand you could end up on Hadrian's Wall in rain dealing with Picts, or stuck dealing with race riots in Alexandria.

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And now I want to play Rome Total War

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Ever play the Hegemony series?

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This is very interesting! However, the roman soldiers only paid for their own gear before the military reforms of general Gaius Marius 1/

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Who standardised the gear of the roman soldier to correspond with the inconsisive quality of roman soldiers arms and armor, while also 2/

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Who standardised the gear of the roman soldier to correspond with the inconsisive quality of roman soldiers arms and armor, while also 2/

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Making it possible for the lowest level of roman society to become a part of the roman legions and also ensurering payment which was not 3/

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Given beforehand as miltitary service was seen as a civic duty 4/4

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Why is a century of soldiers only 80 men? Couldn't make it 100 so it makes sense?

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Upvoting because there can't have only been 3 people who wondered this.

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Each contubernium has eight soldiers and two "helpers", making the century 80 combatants and 20 non-combatatants. 100 men :)

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oohh shhhiittt

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Imperial* Roman Army. Roman Kingdom most likely used a phalanx system and for most of Roman Republic there was the Principe, Hastati and 1/2

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Arranged into maniples rather than cohorts. This system was still a marked improvement over the Macedonian phalanx. More flexible.

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Triarii system. I believe such was also the case for a good part of Roman Empire. Not sure which reform introduced legion system.

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It was Gaius Marius in roughly 107 BC, he reformed training, tactics, and means of supply, creating a professional army.

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The early Roman army consisted of three lines, the Hastati (youngest/least experienced) were the front line, and were the least supplied 1/?

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In terms of equipment, as each soldier was required to purchase their own gear. Principes were positioned behind them, and were the well 2/?

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Equipped veterans. Like the Hastati, they carried a gladii and pila (throwing spear). Lastly, was the triarii. They were behind the 3/?

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Principes, and were the oldest veterans, able to afford the best equipment. They were a last line of defense. They carried a hasta 4/?

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Yes, that would be it.

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Well, off to watch Rome again.

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"Juno's cunt man!"

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THIRTEEN! THIRTEEN!

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Well, off to play Hegemony Rome again.

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I feel like that show was 99% fucking, 0.25% history and 0.75% extra dirty fucking.

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That's why I watched it as a teenager. Would like to watch it for that .25% now as an adult.

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Well now I need to watch it. It's an hbo series, right?

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If you have amazon prime you can watch it on there, in the U.S. anyway. Not sure about the rest of the non-free world =P

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They take some liberties with the timeline and historical plot, but in terms of the accuracy of the "world", it's *outstanding*.

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It's a great series. First episode was boring but it picks up. Shame it ended so early

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That's what she said.

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At least it got closure to its story, unlike Deadwood.

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Had a prof who consulted with the director on Rome. He said he would never do it again because the didn't listen to anything he had to say.

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Oh dear. Yeah that doesn't surprise me. The show was basically a soap themed around Rome. Sex sells.

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This is wrong; neither legionaries nor auxiliaries had to supply their own equipment. The Marian Reforms of 107 BCE opened the army up (1)

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Man this is filled with typos.

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to the unlanded poor: prior to that it was restricted to property owners above a certain tax & property grade. Since this new soldiers (2)

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were poor couldn't afford to supply their own equipment, so the state supplied it. They also were payed, where previously is had been (3)

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seen as a duty of citizenship. Auxiliaries were non-Roman subjects who filled supplementary roles; after their service this got citizenship.

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Well said, it's important to make the distinction that although they state supplied it, they still had to pay for it with their salary.

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Thanks for the addition; however it should be noted that the state-supplied equipment was much cheaper than individually purchased (1)

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I forgot about that! Thanks! Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_reforms

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Thanks for adding the source; I completely forgot

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Ave. True to Caesar ..

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Ade victoriam! Legion dog!

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After the first 2 images I decided I'd need to scour the comments for this. Thanks for not letting me down.

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The Legion awaits at the gates of hell and the NCR send 'em in!

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First Recon: the last thing you never see.

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Wish I had a First Recon guy looking out for me.

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Funny enough, I'm building a 1st recon cosplay.

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Lieutenant Betsy?

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I was actually impressed that the legion in FNV spoke Latin with proper Roman pronunciation. It was rad

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I think you mean rads. (Looks around nervously for pun police)

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Caesar was a linguist, historian, and anthropologist born and raised in the NCR. [Mormon, to boot.] He knew his shit.

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Update: Looking at the wiki, Caesar may not have been mormon himself. I thought he and Graham had both been.

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Obsidian didn't have time to COMPLETE the Legion, but they had time to flesh it out and give it part of an identity...

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I remember reading somewhere that they planned to show what it is like for non-combatant legion citizens.

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Basically, the Legion as it is in-game is just a shell of the faction they were supposed to be. Bethesda just didn't give them the time.

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Sorry, in what? I want to watch/play that

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Fallout: New Vegas

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Cool thanks

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Too bad Caesar completely misunderstood Roman society & thus created an utter bastardization of it. Goddamn self-righteous prick dictator.

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Caesar understood it perfectly, he wasn't attempting to recreate it. He felt the synthesis of his legion with NCR would be closer, but 1/

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he understood that he was just a brutal warlord with a theme until that hegelian triad was realized.

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Looks like somebody needs a ballistic fisting.

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Please assume the position.

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Rome was a military dictatorship for a long time, profligate.

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Yeah but their women weren't slaves, they fought in formation & the strength of Rome was its bureaucracy; a strong military was a by-product

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I'm sure he understood the society, but straight up decided he wasn't going to do that.

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Say what you will about the bad parts of the Roman empire, they knew how to make a fucking army.

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Yet a lot of it were lost. The superiority of autonomous units was almost forgotten until the Golden horde showed up..

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They had fucking retirement plans....

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Most empires do.

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I was listening to the Rome HBO series soundtrack while reading your post :)

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Awesome.

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They also knew how to build shit. Impressive shit. Very well.

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Engineering was something they took pride in.

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A fucking army you say? Did it make love not war? :)

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it made lovely war

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Then Hannibal has to come and fuck shit up

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With his bloody elephants.

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Imagine how different the world would be if members of Congress had to travel and fight with the military?

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Could be worse... they could spin that power for destructive gains.

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So basically take over the whole world. And after that, they'd be competing for power with other politicians (because why not?)

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That's what got Rome an emperor. I'd prefer not.

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Kinda like what's happening now, really, just most don't have private military units behind them.

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Yeah except they royally fucked it up a few times. I'm looking at you, Cannae.

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That was before the formation of legionaries. From my memory of Rome Total War, Cannae was fought with Hastati and Principes.

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Without cannae there would be no legions as described here. The wars against Carthage led to reforms of the army that conquered the world.

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To be fair that was before the reformation of their military into a really professional force. Better example would be Teutoburg forest.

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Fair point.

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Even before the Marian reforms they kicked ass. They conquered Italy first, held it against Pyrrhus and defeated Carthage's superior navy.

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Shit, the only reason they beat Carthage was because they laid siege to the city of Carthage, forcing Hannibal to abandon his conquest.

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Roman water system, now with 50% more lead poisoning.

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The Romans command Flint now?

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Also, Rome was apparently somewhat generous to the lands it conquered, until near the end of its reign.

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Why waste time better spent rolling in riches when people will govern themselves more happily AND pay you taxes?!

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And give you economy by way of slaves, which probably went both ways.

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And they didn't force their religion on the people they conquered

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Considering that they won wars by applying the Zapp Brannighan Gambit repeatedly, yes. Yes they did.

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"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."

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Well, it's not like they had the tools available for advanced tactics.

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Just because they didn't have modern tools, doesn't mean they didn't have tools or tactics. They were no more or less smart than us.

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Some would argue that they may have, in ways, have less overall intelligence.

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I'd say less knowledge, but intelligence would likely be the same.

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The Carthaginians did. But the Romans learned. And that's a good thing.

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Their tactics were often better than any in the medieval period.

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And the people that did beat them in the field tended to use tactics Specifically designed against standard legion tactics, which they >

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Whenever they came across a tactic or fighting style that was better, they would adopt it. Or that may be wrong, I read it on the internet.

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Well the Franks/French did beat the shit out of the "Byzantine" empire (or The Roman Empire as it should be known) in the medieval period.

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And they apparently knew how to take care of their veterans...

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err uh, not really, and the problems that led to the downfall should be obvious with giving every man + future generations a plot of land

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Of course, the veteran problem combined with the Gracchus brothers and Gaius Marius probably helped kill the republic. 1/2

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which then transitioned into an empire that lasted a good long while, so take the fall as you will. 2/2

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25 years was near the life expectancy of someone poor not fighting in wars back then.. good luck making it to "veteran"

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You were well fed, and fit serving in the Legion though. So they had a higher life expectancy without disease or injury.

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It's that injury part I'm calling bullshit on. Chances of 25 years melee combat without dying is slim chances indeed regardless of your food

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Depends where you ended up. If you got put in a comfy, stable province, you may never see live combat.

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Most people still lived to ~60 years old. It's all that infant death dragging the average down.

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Good point! I assumed they didn't count those :(

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I don't know if there were that many of them. And I'm sure they suffered from PTSD without any help.

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There's an interesting video on battle fatigue in the ancient times https://youtu.be/FDNyU1TQUXg

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Dot for roman/ancient war stuff

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That is interesting

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Dot

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Man, now I have to dot this. .

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Man, now I have to dot this .

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Random .

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Super unlikely for them to live through 25 years in service. If they did, life expectancy was optimistically 40-50.

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Not exactly true. Life expectancy at birth was around 40-50 but once you reached 18 or so your life expectancy was around 65.

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Yea but they mostly did it so that their children and family can have a bright future and so on

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The bad stuff came from the politicians the same as the US. If they had a french revolution and cut out the rotten core theyd still be here

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Its that fact they got so large, created 2 senates to rule east and west then went to war with each other.

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The US could do with an overhaul.

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There were a number of reasons. Being too big to govern for that time period contributed. The hundred years of civil war too ~200-300CE

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Literally did that like six times

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Arguably, the main problem for Rome was exactly the opposite. The military was actually in charge as it rotted.

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Something as simple as water poisoning, lead in their pipes, is often blamed for the fall of their most prominent cities.

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Uh oh, hold onto your toots Flint, MI.

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Main reasons for their fall: barbarians from Gaul and other areas, spreading the empire too thin, and political infighting.

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Goddamn gallic barbarians, with their magic potions, little dogs, and menhirs.

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Actually it was politicians/soldiers fighting for control while rich men horded wealth. Add in disease decreasing the population. 1/2

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2/2 bad news all around.

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Literally america

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Not really. The Roman Empire fell very slowly, piece by piece, over centuries. Vestiges of it still remain, in the form of Catholicism.

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Nothing lasts forever. Empires and mountains both are withered by time.

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Roman law underpins much of Western law too. And the last emperor died in 1453.

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Yeah I've read a lot about that and how through the church they may actually be more powerful now than they were during their peak.

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Um not sure if the French Revolution should be used as a good idea

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Any History or Philosophy teacher will tell you without the French Revolution there would be no US. They bankrolled the US Revolution.

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Yeah, that actually happened a few times during the roman empire, then someone who seemed better but was actually worse took their place.

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So every revolution ends with even worse leaders. That could be true, then again without a Chinese Revolution they'd be part of the UK.

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Well, France is still there

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Mostly in name, it was modern enough and surrounded by equals, so the land stayed, but most of its origins are gone.

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The origins of France are gone? I'm curious about it :D

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Careful, talk like that around the wrong revolutionaries will get your head cut off rather quickly.

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Yeah, I was about to say this. People who say the French Revolution was successful don't know what happened.

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We got the metric system.

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They defeated the combined armies of Europe twice, before Napoleon even showed up.

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Hmm?

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Enlighten us

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1) Basically, it started to feed the poor & get rid of the monarchy, or put in place a Constitutional Monarchy. After years of fighting

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Pun is punny.

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4) Not to mention the skyrocketing debt, the fact that the leaders in France decided it was a good idea to start two wars at a time when

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5) France literally couldn't be poorer. The French Revolution was just a cluster fuck.

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3) They simply replace King Louis with God Emperor Napoleon.

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2) there arose multiple revolutionary groups that ended up fighting one another, all the while France's people still starved & @ the end

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