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Fluent in 3 Months (Book)
Fluent in 3 Months by Benny Lewis will change the way you think about learning a new language, any language. Not only in theory, this book will give you practical tips and tactics for each different stages of language learning. A must read for anyone who wants to become fluent in a new language.
Duolingo App
Did I just recommend Duolingo, on Imgur, for the 100th times? I'm sorry but I can't not recommend this. Duolingo is the best app for your smartphone to learn the basic of languages. And it's 100% free! They currently have over 16 languages available to learn. While Duolingo won't make you fluent, it will definitely make you ready for the next step.
Forvo Pronounciation Dictionary
While reading words from a different language, especially the ones that have confusing pronunciation (like English), you will want to hear how those words are pronounced. Forvo can help you with that. Forvo is a pronunciation dictionary where you can type a word then it will return the pronunciation audio.
Memrise App
There's this method of learning languages called SRS (Spaced Repetition System) where you will get reminded of a word over time before you can forget it. After a certain duration, then you'll remember the word forever. Memrise is the app that will help you learn languages with SRS.
HiNative App
What a day to be alive. With HiNative, you can directly ask questions to native people about their language and culture. Let's say you're confused about the difference between two words in French, you can just ask someone from France to explain it to you...for free.
Lang-8
Lang-8 is a platform where you can write something in a language you want to learn, and someone native will proofread it. It's an awesome way to be fluent in a new language because you can train yourself by writing and you'll get to know how you can improve.
Anki SRS
The main idea behind Anki is exactly the same with Memrise, learning a language with SRS. With Anki, you can create your own deck of cards (but there are premade decks too). Some people like Memrise better because of the interface, but some people prefer Anki for flexibility.
Italki
Lang-8 and HiNative are great because they're free. However, for serious people who want to learn fast, both can be a bottleneck because there is no dedicated tutor just for you. If you don't mind spending some money to hire a dedicated tutor for hourly rates so you can learn much faster, then Italki is for you.
HelloTalk Language Exchange
HelloTalk is a chat app made to exchange languages with people around the world. Pick a language to learn, and you'll get to practice with a native speaker via live chat or even video call.
TuneIn Radio
This one is different from the rest. It's not a learning platform, but an online radio streaming app. Here's the idea: if you want to become fluent in a language, you have to "live" with it. You have to listen how people talk with that language in real life, for hours per day. Or listen to music in that language. For that reason, listening to a local radio station will definitely help.
Source: http://starterpack.me/learning-new-language/
Goatflakes
+1 will definitely favourite this and forget about it.
amoralcompass
I'm waiting for the matrix thing where you just download knowledge. I would hate to look back and be upset about all of that wasted effort.
aval5
As a mobile person... YOU BROKE THE MERMAID MAN AND BARNACLE BOY CHAIN!!!
AkiyamaRuss
quick addition is to check for subreddits for your language. They're often full of techniques and questions you might not have asked
MrCaribouKatz
Yes
svga
A Book?!? Ew, gross, paper, tree killer; who reads books anymore anyway?!?!?!?
svga
(he said with tongue firmly in cheek)
jakefr0mstatefarm
I speak English and Spanish and yet I still manage to fuck my Spanish up. I have brought great shame to my family. (ಥ_ಥ)
janedope
But what are you wearing?
KhajiitHasDoneNothing
Down voting so that we can keep mermaid man and barnacle boy fistbumping
mratio
Doing dogs work.
EwWtfNo
Can we use forvo to know how to correctly promounce "Imgur" ??
awesomundo
Trying to learn Spanish. I'm pregnant and I told my boyfriend that him and the baby can't have Spanish talks behind my back. -_-
DrunkenSnapper
@threeringteacher look! A syllabus for you?
xynta
+1 for Forvo. It pisses me off when people direct each other to Google Translate's synthesizer when trying to teach how to pronounce words
Susurration
I tried the Fluent in 3 Months. It basically suggests you quit work for 3 months, turn your home into the new language, and don't 1/
Susurration
go out unless you're going out into said language. Great if you're unemployed and a hermit (or in said country). Not so much if you work.
LunaChic
Yikes! That doesn't sound reasonable at all.
cowashee26
Glad theres an honest review here!
therespectrum
My ex and I had a french speaking household (I live in the US, so minus most guests) and I was relatively fluent in 6 months or so.
devastitis
No Pimsleur?
Muchbeefsodinner
Pimp slayer?
Ooster3000
Im using memrise and it works really well
rouik
The website is better than the app
Ooster3000
Hmm think i might give The website a try then
twentysomething
I havent used this one, but Anki's app is great. Pretty expensive as far as apps go, but i think it was worth it.
TheRealSharedAccount
*Sigh* Favorite and Forget
Mildarian
ALL HAIL DUOLINGO!
comeflywithme
I speak 3 languages plus a few phrases in 4 others. It's all about immersion. Get in there, makes mistakes and learn.
slack3rdav3
making mistakes is terrifying in a foreign country when you are supposed to be decent in the language. I have given up on german.
Ohond
You sound like your satisfied. 3 languages is nothing!
Sittingonabigblueboxlolwtfmars
Do you only think in one language? I only know English but I can't comprehend thinking in another language, it seems alien to me!
comeflywithme
Last night I smashed my thumb with a hammer and I caught myself cursing random words in English, Thai, Korean, German, Swedish and Finnish.
slack3rdav3
whispered 'coat coat' in my thai gf's ear while having sex and she laughed so hard we had to stop.
Sittingonabigblueboxlolwtfmars
I've noticed I've started to curse in Swedish. Only slightly. But it's there.
comeflywithme
It a beautiful language for that. Not quite as colorful as English but swearing is usually where people start. ;)
comeflywithme
I'm born Canadian. So English has been the major one. Now I live in Sweden and I think in Swedish but I can switch that with practice.
Sittingonabigblueboxlolwtfmars
Got any tips for learning Swedish? Something you wish you would have done at the start, etc
comeflywithme
Nah, I learned my way but I love languages. Make mistakes and ask for help to correct them. Immersion is key. Get help. Tricky language rly.
comeflywithme
Are you living in Sweden?
Sittingonabigblueboxlolwtfmars
Nope. Although I would like to some day. Going to learn the language first.
highoverlordxenu
Do any of these language apps have Klingon? I want to learn Klingon.
Muchbeefsodinner
Memrise has a klingon set
lucadollar
Duolingo is in the process of developing a Klingon course.
Ohond
I want to learn italian but my playstore just shows duolingo for English...
lucadollar
It's showing English as the only language to learn?
Ohond
Well just at first but when you download it you get all the languages. It's nice. :)
lucadollar
Glad it worked out for you. This might help too: http://www.fsi-language-courses.net/fsi-italian-language-courses/
Veloxi
Duolingo has a Klingon thing they're working on. For realsies
iamnotsecretlyadog
Saw the first one, downvoted. Benny lewis is pretty shit, he's basically a snake oil salesman.
GuyPrice
all is salesman, ima dud on internetz after my 10h work shift ima poor me need money, bad peple make money on sometheng elz tan 10h shift
iamnotsecretlyadog
Read on, I explain why.
GuyPrice
I would rather make some $$ but go ahead ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
scottpie
Thanks, for typing all this. I visited his site and immediately got a bad feeling about the whole thing. Seems very cash-grabby.
BlankMage
To be fair, I know that at least two of these are free, so there's that.
iamnotsecretlyadog
To clarify- he claims to have passed a c1 exam in german despite never uploading photo evidence, and anecdotal accounts have said many 1/?
iamnotsecretlyadog
of his languages are kinda sub-par. He basically forced his girlfriend to learn Russian so he could post about it, and many of his 2/?
iamnotsecretlyadog
best languages are ones such as spanish that he has worked on for years, not for 3 months. His advice isn't earth shattering- 3/?
iamnotsecretlyadog
, or worth paying to see (Speak from day 1! Who coulda come up with that!?) it's not bad advice, just not "unconventional". Hell, he 4/?
iamnotsecretlyadog
also has a history of setting up "language lovers meet ups" and then changing them to "book signings" at the last second. There are 5/?
RomaFrozenPizzas
I use duolingo while shitting on company time to keep up on my Deutsch.
Muchbeefsodinner
This comment wins
Aoqing
That's an Arschloch-move if you ask a german
fantommenace
And then you douche?
SatansLeftNipple
Ja, gute Scheiße
LoganHendrickson
aahh... le ol' "poo paid!"
adaylateandaeuroshort
i thought i was the only one
yzmaina
I do this too!
RomaFrozenPizzas
The lessons are the perfect length.
adaylateandaeuroshort
german is the proper language to fit the activity too, I failed every french speaking while in the porcelain throne, but Deutsch ist gut
BeardedMenAreMyObsession
You will never truly be fluent until you live immersed in that language, so let's all quit our jobs and move to Costa Rica to learn Spanish.
AGrammeIsBetterThanADamn
Amazing birdies live there. (I accidentally almost said "brides".)
Muchbeefsodinner
Those too prolly
CorporalAlyss
I'm going to Costa Rica! Come with me, I'll need friends!
BeardedMenAreMyObsession
When do you leave? I'm actually heading to Scotland next week myself. I'm planning on being fluent in whisky by the end of the trip.
CorporalAlyss
I'm going early May, and plan to be drowning in chocolate during my trip. Your plan is a sound one, friend.
BeardedMenAreMyObsession
Nice!! Costa Rica is on my list. If it were up to me, I'd move there tomorrow. We both have sound travel plans.
CorporalAlyss
Definitely. You should take some pictures and post them! That'd be sweet af (:
CorporalAlyss
I'm jealous af you get to go to Scotland though, I want to go so badly.
chronicninja
For Chinese and Japanese, check out skritter!
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cleveremu
Wow, $15/month? It looks nice, but that's a bit more than I'm willing to spend for something like that
bradonator
mn
CookieOfAwesome
dot
babababababami
Thank you!!
Thunderkeyz
Will do mate
GeneralBullshit
Check out human Japanese, it's fucking amazing, one time purchase and dearly underpriced. Worth every penny!
Bradapalooza
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ZekeAskirion
Any details as to what service skritter provides please?
chronicninja
Essentially, it's a program offering flash cards based on several different Japanese textbooks, with the addition of writing kanji
ZekeAskirion
Ah that sounds helpful for picking up vocab quickly thank you!
SatansLeftNipple
Didn't know about that. I'm using an app called ChineseSkill, which is very similar to DuoLingo.
JohnDeeThree
I use HelloChinese, found the learning curve to be more balanced than ChineseSkill
SatansLeftNipple
Thanks, I'll take a look. FWIW I've done well with ChineseSkill, but I took two years of Mandarin classes back in college so I may be biased
JurassicParkour
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JohnDeeThree
HelloChinese is a very good free app similar to Duolingo but for Mandarin
Jayde9
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Ktenologist
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xitlalli
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ImInLoveWithAtLeastThreeGirls
I want to learn Japanese, but the deeper I go, the harder it gets! ...that didn't come out right.
trashbaby2k14
I learned English in 3 months at the age of 8, I'm not sure I can pull that off again with another language :(
LunaChic
It's much easier to learn another language at that age range. It'd be easier for you to learn another language now than someone monolingual.
InterruptingA10
That's impressive. That's resume' material.
trashbaby2k14
Naw you soak stuff up like crazy at that age
astralfields
This is why kids in Germany kindergartens are already learning English nowadays. They'll be perfect speakers by 12.
InterruptingA10
I've lived in America my entire life, and I'm still, hardly uni-lingual.
comeflywithme
I learned Swedish(fluent) in 14 months as a 23 year old. I learned Filipino(Tagalog) in pre-K within 3 months. Language is easy; math, no!
Phustercluck
What did you use for sfi?
comeflywithme
I tried it a few evenings but I learned faster without the course. Also didn't have time to sit thru practicing my alphabet. XD
Phustercluck
My sentence was missing words. What did you do if not sfi?
comeflywithme
I worked and told everyone around me to help me learn. Then I listened carefully.
Arbiter1
Flyttade du till Sverige? Jag försöker lära mig det själv och det verkar skit svårt för att lära sig såvida man bor inte där.
comeflywithme
Ja jag bor i Sverige.
missmaryMACKMACKMACK
favoriting for when trump wins and i move overseas
ImOnlyHereForTheNudity
(☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞
SummersSR2
Learn Canadian eh
generationsai
This right here
undeadlemur
*Drumpf
eternalLocket
Make Donald Drumpf again!
TriforceOfCool
As a future foreign language teacher I find this very interesting and useful. Also, oh my god I'm gonna be so unemployed...
Muchbeefsodinner
There's always porn
itsbre
What language? I don't know where you live but in Canada there's tons of jobs for french teacher. Same with England and China
TriforceOfCool
Finnish English teacher (in training). No other languages at the mo', though considering taking up German.
PrincessNausicaa
I'm an ELF teacher. Trust me, there are lots of jobs. And even with these resources people still need a facilitator.
Bertholomew
Not necessarily. The tools are nice but I need a person in front of me to talk to.
TriforceOfCool
I'm like that too. Lets hope we're not the only ones :D ...For my sake.
WhereismyMrKnightley
What language(s)?
TriforceOfCool
English (I'm Finnish)
TriforceOfCool
Also considering German,but I don't know if I can study long enough to get the qualifications.
WhereismyMrKnightley
You could at least give it a try. How about Finnish for people that wanna learn it? :)
TriforceOfCool
HAH! The thing with native languages is you rarely pay attention to how they function. Wouldn't know where to start teaching Finnish grammar
Fandumb
There will always be a market for human teachers, think of all of the "learn to play instrument" videos, but music teachers are stil around
TriforceOfCool
True that. On the other hand things like internet resources can be amazing learning tools. A school lesson only lasts a short while. 1/2
TriforceOfCool
If you can get students to interact with the material outside of school...
2/2
TriforceOfCool
Oh come on :D Not like grammar exercises and stuff! More like "Wanna learn English? Watch IT-Crowd!"
saucefornoreason
Fluent in only 3 months? If only my attention span was greater than 3 minutes that may actually work
Diddyu
3 Months? 3 Months ain't no language I've ever heard of.
MonkeyOnATypewriter
A whole 3 minutes?! That's an ama...
NotAgainRichard
Is SRS adjusted for people with ADHD primarily inattentive, the duration before forgetting can be really short in people with memory issues.
ProblyNotTheOne
This comment makes me feel all the emotions. Mostly disappointment and rage, though.
twentysomething
Putting in a plug for Fluent Forever by Gabriel Wyner. Highly recommend.
RaijinCaijun
Peace Corps uses a program that teaches fluency in just three months of training, particularly for African languages like Bantu. But it's
FatmanSaul
Not for the faint hearted. They use torture techniques to stun the brain into learning quickly.
RaijinCaijun
Pretty immersive and intense.
TangoTangoSierra
BUT IT'S WHAAAAAAAAAAT???????
Kiwisphere
Pretty immersive and intense.
TangoTangoSierra
Grazie
zorbivore
I'm reading it right now, it more or less describes the processes and how you have to view the time while learning and what to take in
watevenisimgur
Would you recommend? I've heard the book is great but unsure if its just a gimmick more than anything
twentysomething
I was on the fence too. After reading reviews, i went with fluent forever by gabriel wyner. I cant rly comparebut im happy with the choice.
zorbivore
It's definitely insightful, it is worth a read the way I see it. It should help with the way you can pick up languages,
zorbivore
But keep in mind it just describes different helpful tactics and points about learning a language and what can be helpful
ZombiesAreOkay
Do they have one for teaching the difference between "you're" and "your?" That would help far more people.
footfoe
I don't know why people get so stressed out about this. Okay so they forgot the ' e, big fucking deal.
swimbikerunrepeatswimbikerunrepeatswimbiwhatwasidoing
There, their, they're
FartyMcDumpstein
https://twitter.com/yourinamerica
whybother
Mango languages helps teach the language and their really good at grammar
markenschuh
What's the deal with "Could / should / ... of" instead of "... have"? I'm not a native speaker and I have no idea how you can fuck these up.
CNNBRFIINF
It's purely due to people writing what they hear. When ppl say "should've" quickly it sounds like "should of." They don't think about it :-/
TheGreatCanadianImgurian
No one cares
Mulberryberry
Thanks to finnish school system i can tell the difference between several similar words.. But all the rest of my english skills suck :(
Etal00
Are, our
WhiteTexan
ur so cra-cra
Etal00
Be, bee
Splodgey
I'm far two tyred too deal with these pesky homophones...
flightlessfruit
people just need to get this printed and post it to the wall: http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/auto-grammar-spelling-201150.jpeg
eyygyal
Fucking corekt
BookJunkie27
You need more points for this.
Etal00
See, sea
stanleypark211
they're probably working on their solution over there
Etal00
Their, they're, there.
Etal00
Can, can (not the dance) :-)
afromanex
YOU'RE WELCOME, BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE IF YOU WANT TO BE A LITTLE MORE THAN THE LAST WEEK AND A FEW YEARS AGO
Vedar
Does it really matter as long as you can understand what the person meant? Sure, it's technically incorrect but is it really such a big deal
DesSammaMia
CM Punk's Grammer Slam https://youtu.be/13FV1GaA20I
Hendlton
And should of instead of should have.
MyLightBulbJustBurnedOut
It's always should have.
666scav
your kidding right?
Theinternetwasinventedforveryimportantscience
You mean grammar?
fantommenace
When people use those words incorrectly, how does it effect you?
hersbad
It drives me absolutely nuts!
hersbad
*affect* tsk tsk
moarDuolingo
A lot and alot
toiletimp
Affect vs effect (i use the first letter of each and swap with alter vs end result...works for most situations)
TheLANBeforeTime
I use "it affects x" vs "it has an effect on x"
phantomIimb
You da real mvp
sarcastico
your so right!
LQTMupvotes
You missed the opportunity to say your sew wright.
Theinternetwasinventedforveryimportantscience
You*are so right. See you missed it actually.
AlexBowden
Why is he downvoted lol
JoshVita
your sew wright!
ThisWouldMakeAGreatUsername
nice save
steffensen100
Dane asking: isn't you're something you 'are' - and your something you have? Like it's and its...
ZombiesAreOkay
"Your" is ownership. Your house. Your car. "You're" is "You are."
ratchethatchet
Since no one has answered you, really, yes. You are right and it's not even your first language. Good job :)
ZombiesAreOkay
For "it's" and "its," it's actually the opposite. "It's" means "it has" or "it is." "Its" shows ownership.
BingleyBingleyBeep
Its to indicate ownership is exactly like his and hers and theirs. None of them take an apostrophe.
Hobo42
Crazy how nature do that.
ZombiesAreOkay
They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
drhotdog
i should prolly focus on grasping english before going on to fucking up another language
temerairewindragon
Maybe use these sites with English as the learned language.
Apelove
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
SadRabit
Every language has that kind of tricks, I'm not native for me it's just buffalo spelled few times
Bilvana
English? I can barely speak American! (only language)
Severnat81
*I *probably *.
ForReasonsOfScience
ThatsTheJoke.jpg
Severnat81
...sarcasm
trooperjess
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syberdragon
I actually speak much better English having tried to study other languages.
KwickieMartAttendant
Your write.
Taconolettuce
That or you're a savant at other languages and English is your derp.
abbz2694
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AntiEvil007
https://media.giphy.com/media/pKEufUXBqsLi8/giphy.gif
shartsicle
Learning foreign languages makes your native language better. People who speak several languages rarely confuse your/you're, etc.
internetgod
Learning another language improves critical thinking and You can cuss people in their faces without ramifications!
Markuspsyches
Or like my friend does. Tell someone in their language "I'm sorry I can't speak X, can you speak English please."
Tientchikz
Been in America for 8 years, my English is still cabbage
Leralith
mmmh, cabbage *drools*
afromanex
WELL CABBAGE , AND THE 3RD REICH, BUT THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A GREAT TIME IS GOOD
dtsmash
But learning another language helps you understand your native one! E.g. Before studying French, I had no idea we had a subjunctive case...
BookJunkie27
Subjunctive has always been tricky.
dtsmash
If only I were smarter...
afromanex
YOU'RE RIGHT. DONALD TRUMP IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET A CHANCE TO WIN THE WORLD. THE FIRST TIME I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT YOU, LOVE GRANDMA
willupvoteanythingavatar
I'm on the toilet thinking "I can totally do this!" The I read this...
pajamabuttslut
As a fellow Toiletter, I've come to say Hello. Can you bring me some TP? My girlfriend is passed out, and there's a serious situation here.
willupvoteanythingavatar
Then*
laubblaeser
the irony
ThisWouldMakeAGreatUsername
They must of been squeezing at that moment...
ProblyNotTheOne
Considering that English is one of the hardest languages to learn in the world, there's a good chance you'll speak better in the new one.
NurietaGM
As a non-native speaker that speaks 4 languages, I disagree. Mastering English is difficult but learning enough to communicate is easy.
ohnosky
As a non-native speaker that speaks 3 languages, I'd say that English is one of the easiest for its grammar structure.
petroach
The only "hard" thing about English is that each letter has like 76 different ways to pronounce them. Other than that is pretty easy
aureyh
Yeah, I've seen someone with pretty lousy English trying to teach someone Japanese and it was pretty bad.
Higgeldy
Probably thanks to the fact that Groupon were selling TEFL online courses and people could apply for jobs with a discount qualification!
ProblyNotTheOne
Why?
missmaryMACKMACKMACK
You've got to have a pretty good understanding of sentence structure to be able to explain it.
missmaryMACKMACKMACK
As is true for teaching just about anything.
LadyWidebottom
I dunno about listening to music in another language, I'm a huge Rammstein fan but my German language skills are horseshit.
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MantisTobagganMD
Oh, I know what that is. Its something that werfs flammen, ja?
SatansLeftNipple
It is indeed.
MrScud
I know exactly how you feel
PianoMan2112
The last time I played it in Rock Band 4, I realized that I got the inflection right without trying (was also on bass), so it's something.
MackdomblesDarbleChaiseBarga
Well I know how to count to nine so I have that going for me.
SatansLeftNipple
Eins, Zwei, Polizei
sbot5000
Got real big into Russian rap and have learned a bit that way. Still not as good as doing something formally.
5t6thyerf
German was my first language but haven't used it since I was six, I love singing along to Rammstein and pretending I still know how use it
yourlifeisatripwhenyoureapsychoinlove
For german: Can highly recommend WDR5 or Deutschlandradio. Mainly radio documentaries on current or historical topics and news.
Gorhckmn
HorSheite
Imustupvotealltacos
Listening to Ленинград (Leningrad) and watching their videos has helped me immensely with my Russian. They're really funny too
valpestilence
Manager is my favourite song
valpestilence
dont be such a schattenparker
idislikecomingupwithuniqueusernames
Music doesn't teach you the language, so much as get you used to the sound. Helps with listening comprehension.
SatansLeftNipple
Which is a major part of learning a language
idislikecomingupwithuniqueusernames
I'd posit that vocabulary and grammar are -slightly- more important.
SatansLeftNipple
Well, I'm not gonna sit here and argue semantics because you can't understand them anyways...
valpestilence
Ehh, I occasionally learn words that aren't in the dictionary because it's slang, which comes in handy
SatansLeftNipple
Maybe you should listen to more than just DU HAST...
einskrankenhaus
Our German prof would play Rammstein in class to when explaining basic German grammar. We listened to Du Hast a lot.
LadyWidebottom
I'll have you know I listen to all of their songs and have many of the lyrics memorised... Just have little to no idea what they're about.
SatansLeftNipple
How does that work? I can't memorize shit when I don't understand what it means.
LadyWidebottom
I just looked them up and practiced a lot, my pronunciation is pretty good
SatansLeftNipple
Well, just look up the translations for the lyrics then and you're good to go!
GoDownOnHer
DU HAST MICH! (You hate me)
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GoDownOnHer
I know. I took the lazy way to spelling it wrong. (3 years of german in hs)
SatansLeftNipple
Du hast mich gefragt, und ich hab nichts gesagt
WhoEvenCaresAboutNames
HAVE! YOU HAVE ME! HAVE! DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD: Hast is have! hasst is hate!
GoDownOnHer
As said in previous comment
Neonfarben
Well, learning German is also horseshit. Believe me, I'm from Germany and even adults have problems with understanding all the rules! :D
idislikecomingupwithuniqueusernames
lol, I've heard that. I always loved the story of the German leader (Wilhelm II?) who hated the German language :)
Wulfgang77
I'm trying to learn German on my own. I swear German articles are the weirdest most frustrating thing!
Neonfarben
Have you tried reading children books? Might be easier to follow a story. :)
flightlessfruit
that's because our German lessons are horseshit. I only started understanding German grammar when I began learning Latin.
astralfields
Yeah, Latin grammar is on a whole 'nother level, German grammer is child's play compared to that.
LillyVixen
I was learning Dutch because I want to move there someday. My ex told me it was stupid, because dutch is the worst language and he hated it
Selerox
An an English speaker, grammatical gender makes my head implode. It's one of the reasons English speakers struggle with other languages.
astralfields
As a German, English is one of the easiest languages ever. But seriously, fuck its pronounciation. So many rules and even more exceptions.
Ekajra
English doesn't really have any actual pronunciation rules since we don't have a language governing body or "Standard English".
LadyWidebottom
I was actually in a German class in high school as well and I'm still awful.
InternationalPhoneticAlphabet
as a german, same experience with spanish. you cant learn a language well if you dont actually use it AND dont practice listening to >
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> native speakers alot. whent to spain one time, was all "wtf even is this, repeat slower plz"
Strykes
The problem in Germany is, that even most of the natives can't explain it to you. It just sounds right or wrong, but you can't tell why.
fauxfrog
That's basically how English spelling/pronunciation works, as well.
elandriel
The "listening to music" step should be after the basic learning the language step. Also, listening to slower, melodic music is easier
SatansLeftNipple
Rammstein has slow, melodic songs. Try Seemann, or "Ohne dich".
doppelfisch
+1 for Rammstein. Also, the song Ich Will is actually great for hammering out simple basics of syntax, I recommend you study it a bit.
LadyWidebottom
I love the music video so that is done and done.
doppelfisch
Boosh!
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music is actually pretty bad, imo. i understand english reasonably well, but i still have a hard time with music. watch movies instead!
itsbre
Music is a good way to get the accent and to recognize words faster, but only if you already know the language. It just improves what you no
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that might work if you tried it with something that isnt rammstein. might as well listen to hitler speeches. also, isnt there a saying >
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> that there are no accents in singing? there is some truth in that.
itsbre
Eh kind of. I more meant pronunciation, but there are accents in music. Ever heard Ed Sheeran sing?
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there are, but they tend to be less pronounced. anyway, you cant pronounce properly if you dont get the accent right (even if that accent >
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> is "standard"). though i guess practicing rammstein-pronounciation would keep you from making typical american mistakes.