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I swear I'm not crazy... well not that sort of crazy.
At the request of a few of you wanted a more detailed post of conspiracies that turned out to be true (or have pretty overwhelming evidence). I'm not an expert on this topic, nor do I put faith in a lot of conspiracy theories. Also this isn't a definitive list of known conspiracies just stuff I happened to come across. There are still several more.
EDIT:
@YourFriendlyNeighborhoodPsychonaut provided me w/ this link where you can find a definitive list of conspiracy theories that turned out to be true.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/wiki/locc
I'm not a big fan of this list since it includes things I don't believe have proper evidence (ie the business plot to kill FDR). So I take it w/ a grain of salt.
Dark Alliance
Before 1996 if you would of said that the CIA had a hand in the crack epidemic in the US you would of been called crazy. After Gary Webb's investigation though it's become a pretty accepted conspiracy theory. His book Dark Alliance details the CIA's connections to South American Contra groups, the Reagan administration, and the DEA. Even further down the rabbit hole Gary Webb's life was ruined after the books release, and he "committed suicide" shooting himself in the face twice. Oh also if you don't want to read Dark Alliance, but still want to know more there's a film called "shoot the messenger" staring Hawkeye which focuses more on Webb's life.
Project MKUltra
Even today people don't believe (or don't know) that the CIA attempted mind control experiments using US citizens as test subjects despite the Church Committee findings in 1977, and the FOIA public release of 20,000 MKUltra documents in 2001. Overall the full extent of the MKUltra experiments remains a mystery since a majority of the documents were destroyed in 1973.
Tuskegee syphilis experiment
The U.S. Public Health Service under the guise of providing free healthcare left hundreds of syphilis infected men untreated even 20 years after penicillin was found to easily cure the disease. They even went as far as discouraging the participants from seeking treatment elsewhere.
Operation Northwoods
In 1962 the DOD, and JCS proposed performing a series of false-flag operations to garner support to invade Cuba. Luckily President Kennedy shot down the idea. If you mentioned this before November 6th 1998 you probably would of been called crazy.
The Iran-Contra Affair
Ok so this one didn't really have enough time to settle into "theory" territory before being accepted by the media. In 1985 and 1986 the Reagan administration gave authorization to provide weapons in exchange for the release of U.S. hostages. In 1987 this was under investigation by congress, and eventually Reagan took full responsibility.
The BCCI Scandal
The BCCI was once the 7th largest bank in the world. It also turned out to be a huge scandal. Basically it had been setup to avoid as many bank regulations as possible which in turn lead to it being involved in everything from money laundering to terrorism.
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident essentially started the Vietnam war... the problem is it actually never happened. According to NSA historian Robert J. Hanyok the NSA deliberately distorted intelligence reports passed to policy makers regarding the August 4, 1964 incident.
Operation Ajax
Basically the CIA overthrew a democratically installed government in Iran all because of oil, and eventually led to the Iran Hostage Crisis. For years people said the CIA was involved, but there was no proof until records were released in 2000.
Operation Snow White
Operation Snow White was the biggest known infiltration of the US government's history. With an estimated 5,000 covert agents successfully infiltrating government offices. The biggest surprise is that the church of Scientology sent these agents. The aftermath resulted in 5 church members being sentenced to 4 years in jail.
Operation Gladio
First publically revealed by the Italian Chamber of Deputies on October 24, 1990, and officially recognized in 2006 by the US State department it's still unclear exactly what black ops were performed under Operation Gladio. Essentially it was a covert stay behind effort in Europe to fight the spread of communism. It's been accused of several false flag, and terrorist attacks across the EU.
CIA Murders
So during the church commitee investigations we found out that the CIA killed a lot of people in various ways. One of which was a heart attack gun which was practically undetectable at the time. Other various methods included auto accidents, skiing accidents, cancer, and also good ol' fashioned shooting people.
The Bilderberg Group
For years the Bilderberg group meetings were dismissed as crazy conspiracies, but recently they've finally admitted group meetings occur but still insist there's no agenda other than co-operation between the NA and EU. The Bilderberg group meetings consists of the worlds most powerful people meeting (pretty much every US president except GW Bush), and it's unknown what actually goes on there.
1919 Black Sox Scandal
Probably the most well known sports rig in history 8 men were charged w/ fixing the world series after being paid off by gamblers. It didn't take long for this conspiracy theory to turn into conspiracy fact all 8 players were banned from baseball by 1921.
ChinaMike808
I went to one of the Bilderberg meetings in the 80s. Not much to say about it, other than the cheesecake. It was chocolate marble!
AVerySexualMidget
The Tuskegee study is something 10th graders are taught about (briefly) in NY now. Fascinating and horrifying.
tarWHOdis
Would've or would have. Not would of.
ThisAintASurfinMovie
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
wandermanspacebot
Also known as "things that are definitely still conspiracy theories" and "things that were never conspiracy theories in the first place"
JD10001
Which ones still are in your mind?
thejman843
Illuminati confirmed.
fearandloathebananas
Naaah, they're only into pizza.
Ivegotitallmost
Nothing about COINTELPRO or decades of FBI surveillance that we only know about because of documents stolen by US citizens? Weak.
doogsnova
6.5 million people died because we faked the Vietnam: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_625 part 2
BurntRamen
Pentagon Papers show that we'd been doing a lot of post WWII shady shit around the world. https://www.archives.gov/research/pentagon-papers
Threns
This is pretty much a list of why I have sympathy for the more logical conspiracies. Then there's shit like lizard people.
lazerhosen
Ouch. I like your post, but all your "would of"s should read "would've" because you're saying "would have."
flamingflamingo
Read up on MKUltra and Extraordinary Rendition and see how you feel about the United States afterwards.
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flamingflamingo
I picked those two because separate from this post, they were two events I learned about that changed my opinion on America.
zma123456
Year 2050 - "it turns out folks that 9/11 was an inside job after all. Bush knew all about it"
idontevenknowsillymonkey
Exhibit A
TheAdditionalPylon
Good ol America and their shenanigans
RegisteredBoobInspector
Well it's a well known fact Sunny Jim, that there's a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, known as The Pentaveret 1/2
RegisteredBoobInspector
who run everything in the world, including the newspapers and meet tri annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado known as The Meadows
SirManselOfMacsen
I understood that reference. +1
blazera
MKULTRA is why you never trust the government to have good intentions with wanting to classify information.
lostnortherner
Oddly enough TIL Whitey Bulger and the Unabomber were put through the MK Ultra program. Bulger said it took him to the "depths of insanity"
lostnortherner
But they both turned out fine, so no need to worry.
Rockonman
Next thing we hear is that #OP has committed suicide by shooting himself in the head twice and this post has been taken down.
twozerooz
It was suicide. You'd have to be a pretty big nutjob to think otherwise.
TairaMai
Bilderberg "conspiracy" = rich dudes being rich dudes. The "dark alliance" was a huge nothing burger 1/2
TairaMai
The CIA made this mistake of employing smugglers and shady characters who then turned to the cartels. Big surprise.
BurntRamen
People think the middle east destabilized itself and Iran is inherently evil and just hates us. The US and Britain had a lot to do with it.
WildBluntHickok
People today like to pretend the 911 attack wasn't a retaliation for US war crimes in the 90s too.
WildBluntHickok
People today like to pretend the 911 attack wasn't a retaliation for US war crimes in the 90s too.
Three10
Oh, and can you explain Islam's expansion into Spain, Constantinople, and Malta? No, Islam calls for jihad against everyone.
DarkBusterBaron
How does the heart attack gun fire the darts because ice would normally just melt due to the heat of being fired.
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
It's fired with pressurized CO2 rather than combustion so that removes a lot of the heat
DarkBusterBaron
That makes sense
Alixzander
I have a aussie buddy who thinks the usa is ran bye lizard men and he sent me all kinds of emails as proof of his findings
BustyCrustacean
Alixzander - anagram of A lizard ex... Coincidence? I think not!
Necromartian
Well he's not wrong... is he?
iwishjtmoneywasstillavailableitsmyoldvideogamemoniker
Has he shot himself twice in the face yet?
Alixzander
Including his personal findings
LurkerMcLurkface
And david icke laughs his ass off while earning a fair share by selling all those books
H4zardous
But... But.. Shoeless Joe wasn't in on it!
dohrmiester39
You'd think he'd want the extra cash so he can buy a pair of shoes.
badwolfandtheoncomingstorm
I saw Field of Dreams. We know the truth!
cmpltkaos
Watch "Eight Men Out". It's a fantastic telling of the scandal by John Sayles.
BanzaiRun
If you build it,
Hipcatjack
Came on here to shout vindication for shoeless Joe as well.bif you didn't do it I would HAVE.
HaroldStewartIII
Say it ain't so Joe!
Moniux
*Central America, not South America ;)
Idownvotegunnuts
I don't know if you can say Reagan took "full responsibility", he still pretended to not have prior knowledge until the day he died.
Whhpssh
It's called 'being the guy at the top'.
JoeBobBriggs
He took responsibility because it happened under his administration and he should have caught it not because he was involved.
WithPride
^ This. He wasn't directly involved but the people under him (who did it) were.
TheLannistersSendALovelyFruitBasket
Not to defend the criminal, but towards the end, he probably didn't have any knowledge of it. Alzheimer's will do that.
rrlyrae
reagan NEVER took resp. mistakes were made, dicks were sucked, it happened on my watch but let's all move along.
Flyndaran
Treason is not a mistake. It would have gotten any normal citizen executed.
rrlyrae
i was paraphrasing the actual speech he gave.
madetheaccountjustforyou
Dude didn't have prior knowledge of anything by the time he died.
deezgnarlynutz
Wait, now Reagan died too? 2016 takin everybody dude.
deezgnarlynutz
For the record, this is a joke.
howToLoseTheGame
Duuude, we get it... Don't worry
BushBakedBeams
Maybe that's because he had Alzheimer's
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Flyndaran
Not at the time, but actually losing all memory is harsh poetic justice for his literal treason. But we impeach Bill for adultery. SMH
OliverClothesoff70
Well, no. Bill was impeached for Obstruction of Justice and lying under oath (perjury). He obstructed and perjured DUE to his adultery.
Flyndaran
Except he weaseled out of technical perjury even though they had not damn right to even wast time on such stupid inquiries.
OliverClothesoff70
They had every damn right. He broke the law while serving as President. That's impeachable. Read some unbiased stories on it. Interesting.
TheClayKnight
He was tried for a crime he committed because they were investigating something irrelevant to his job?
RustyNeX
funny thing is that the majority of people would still deny that the government is capable of any of this stuff.
twozerooz
I think most people would instead (correctly) understand that one event doesnt prove another, and that it is fundamentally irrational to
twozerooz
Believe something without sufficient evidence. Most conspiracy theorists really dont grasp these two concepts
RustyNeX
true but if the CIA was a person, and that person had done bad things, most people would not trust that person again.
twozerooz
But the CIA isnt a person, its an ever-changing group of people, similar to -say- all black people.
RustyNeX
you make a good point, but then things tend to repeat themselves, like politicians lying
seedye
Note: this isn't proof that Conspiracy X is true. Real conspiracies are rare and tend to fall apart, so evidence needs to be extraordinary.
seedye
https://youtu.be/EhWpP-vPUcQ
seedye
::sigh:: By "Conspiracy X", I mean your favorite conspiracy theory. Please don't make "Conspiracy X" into a thing. That's what They'd want.
AJCanuck
Yeah, I'd do one for those which turned out not to be, but I don't have the 50 years it would take to put the post together
robthelob20
Dude, 7/11 WAS a part time job. Wake up, you sheep
WildBluntHickok
I've made up new conspiracy theories when bored. Not that they gained any traction, I'm just saying it's easy to do.
AJCanuck
...that sound pretty suspicious to me...what's you real motivation?
WildBluntHickok
Creative writing practice actually
AJCanuck
A likely story...we'll have to have you watched
DrIvoRobotnik
You don't need 50 years. Like 50 new retarded conspiracy theories happen every week
AJCanuck
Well, if there's 50 a day, I'm definitely never going to catch up
notme222
This is pretty mixed bag. Some verified, some lingering-but-not-debunked, and some are scandals that aren't really "conspiracy" as we use it
Flyndaran
With that silly heart attack gun thrown in for proper batshit craziness.
NickRivieraMD
Another important point: most of these were not ever 'conspiracy theories,' but just fucked up shit that came out after the fact.
AIComments
Really that's the most important fact since OP is claiming "turned out to be true".
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PhunPhact
Why are you down voted?
Darkspire
Imgur hates conspiracies, especially the true ones. How this made front page is beyond me.
Drafi
Well for one, he's contradicting himself (read the comment, then read the opening paragraph of the post again)
PhunPhact
Also, @OP for the syphilis one, you should've included that they purposely targeted blacks for that.
orangeorangutan
Wondering why people care more about his grammar than this
NERDRAGEohacat
Hard to take your post seriously when you open with Gary Webb. His own wife confirmed it was suicide, don't lump it with his CIA-drug thing.
HeyOP
1) In OP's defense, she was his ex of about four years at the time, and he *did* say "widely accepted conspiracy theory" in the details on
HeyOP
2) that one. But, yeah. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/susan-bell-a-shameful-secret-history-317908.html
HeyOP
3) washingtonpost has an OpEd on some of the failures in journalistic rigors on Webb's reports, worth a read, link's too long.
herecomesthefun1
No, my government would never! They love me,and have my best interest at heart!
secondgoaround
Oh, sweet child.
RocketRodster
And now Trump is heir to this dark power.
fylnndjofla
correct! THe government lovEs YOu and alWays has your best iNterest at heart! You have nOthing to fear, Unless you're a terroist!
herecomesthefun1
I'm Just cUriouS about Trump being part of some Wild conspirAcy. He is kiNd of a wild card with a loT of PIZaZz, however, A bit questionable
AmazinglyCoolNameHere
Well most of the things they did were for what they thought was best, for white americans at least.
Tunaccat
While the government does lie, distrust in the government is a real problem. For everyone. The gov, the people, and the country.
subparusersubber
And yet the burden of responsibility here ought to be on government. We cannot blindly trust opaque agencies or administrations.
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Irishda
The flip side though is that you're not important enough for them to give a shit about either
mwoodman
Tell that to Tuskegee. There's always a need for canon fodder!
RyanOldford
So more like you're not important enough to care about *personally*, then.
scientificburrito
Have. Would *HAVE been called crazy. Example: if you incorrectly use the word 'of,' I would have called you illiterate.
T00MUCHD0G
OP switched "of" and "have" but the verb tenses in your example are inconsistent. boiii
scientificburrito
I meant to write 'used.' You got me on that one. Subject/verb agreement always fucked me up and still does a little bit to this day.
PyrosHaveMoreFun
Your fucking verb tenses, dude
FightMeMrTusk
Gotta say, I half to agree with you hear. Improper grammar annoys me to.
sociallyadeptgeek
*grammer
GuiltRiddenTrespasser
Also a movie *starring Hawkeye
blortch
Yes! Thank you!
JustSayingYouHaventSeenMeAndBatmanInTheSameRoomBefore
would've or would have, fucking pick one
TheShire
I stopped reading the post as soon as i saw that lol
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Saukoeter
I'm not a native speaker and it drives me crazy to read that shit. Only native speakers would write 'of' instead of 'have'.
Spoffles
Don't be a massive baby.
nattfilm
Erm. Thats like the first thing we learn?
FloridaMansSideKick
Hardly. If you see someone writing "should of", they're probably a native speaker.
shorr
I've pretty much never seen non-natives (I am one myself) do that mistake. It's pretty specific to natives since we learn differently
squallau
I give a bit lenience on this one.When you're speaking,you tend to shorten it to "would've",which sounds like it could be written "would of"
squallau
It's the kind of mistake you should only make once, though.
AyAyRonn
And would've is valid to write. Consistently writing "would of" will cause you to repeat the third grade.
squallau
Hence my follow up. Once is forgivable if you hadn't seen it written down before, IMO.
technologyexpert
OP needs to learn the difference between the words 'of' and 'have'
KuraiChikara
Mean what you say and say what you mean gets absolved by general interaction. Like me saying, "fuck you." Im sure you get what I mean.
TheifofZ
That is my biggest pet peeve, and I'm so glad someone else called it. I'm literally twitching in distress after reading all of that.
teeps42
He's a Russian troll. Seriously.
ZombieJonSnow
Its true. He could of done beter.
HapilyDamaged
Thanks Phonics!
drunkbs
I don't know what you of to bring that up.
RayCharlesBukowski
The illuminati sent Grammar Nazis to debunk OP! The lizard people will continue to maintain control. (Adjusts tinfoil.)
RayCharlesBukowski
Oh my bad. I didn't mean to offend them.
AlabasterSexington
They don't like being called Grammar Nazis they prefer Alt-Write.
ChiLLeCheeze
Grammar Nazi is offensive. It's Alt-write.
AllTheGoodOnesWereAlreadyTaken
Brutally funny!
Tatersz
I of no idea what you are talking about
Revelumin
There obviously talking about grammar. Were did you learned English?
LandonSlayz
"learned": don't know if intentional.
teeps42
He's a Russian troll. Seriously.
AllTheGoodOnesWereAlreadyTaken
Is there another tinier Russian inside him?
teeps42
Dude, thanks for the laugh - that's terrific!
AngryJackDaniels
Doubtful. Very few non-native speakers would mistake the two; it's vernacular speech. It's a laziness to be expected of native speakers.
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VincentFallow
No seriously don't type like an idiot.
uglyninjaturtle
The imgurians have spoken
LetsGetWaffles
Don't be willfully ignorant. There's a difference between speaking and writing. You made mistakes, so just learn and try not to repeat them.
MostlyAngryButNiceAboutIt
I know, fuck! Just say you made a mistake and that you will try to do better next time. Fucking pride and ego never cease to infuriate me.
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HeidiandFrankforlife
Is what's wrong with stupid people*
StunnedGoofy
Example: Trump :p
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WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
Rules help control the fun!
HoliBug
Here's an 'alot' for you
robthelob20
Lol "I'm not stupid, I just don't care" is just about the saddest cop-out I've ever heard.
cucumberbob
You (once again) failed with your English, thus your communication
Jigsaw68
JetMarks
What a prick.
HiddenSanity
Yes, they understood, but you made them do more work than needed to understand you. You placed the burden of communication on your reader.
HiddenSanity
They're asking you to pull your own weight in the joint effort of communication.
HelloMax
Wow, those responses made me downvote an otherwise interesting post, you have to fuck up pretty bad for me to do that, I'm lazy
Saukoeter
Same here.
howManyUsernamesCanThereBe
English is the tool with which you are using to communicate
whathavewehere
I hope you're trolling.
Vundergluber
Yeah. Either lose the "with" or change the whole end to "are communicating".
R1ddl3
It's still correct, just unnecessarily long.