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Feb 15, 2023 10:21 PM
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mittag
The workforce shortage whining will be absolutely hilarious. Most of the employers are not smart enough to connect these dots.
OnlyPositiveFavourites
Millennials are the biggest (numbers) generation so far. And given more women millennials work than boomers we're a more numerous workforce
LakeRat129
As a boomer, I fully support this post.
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
The idea of being mad that someone you don't know might be making as much as *still not enough to live on* perplexes me.
thekittiesbeans
millennials are the largest generational group. (2021)
CallsYouATosser
And with Millennials and younger generations forced to live in situations where they can't have kids, labor value will keep rising.
IsolatedAsshole
Or maybe just pay employees a livable wage for their work with consideration for increased costs and corporate profits?
SteelBurrito
You're asking a lot, you know. But I agree 610%
Gwimyeon
I see more complaining about boomers complaining than boomers complaining
Yellowchopsticks
If you feel a job "beneath" you is paying "too much", maybe you're underpaid too. Get more for yourself. Punch upwards, not down.
capughe
What's that like 1.7 bananas an hour?
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BartenderSean
Although, I agree with the sentiment here this "meme" is wrong. Millennials are the largest generation in history.
WTexasStoner
For perspective: I left Safeway Union job after 13 yrs in 1987, was making $9.85hr. 36 years later, started receiving pension of $420/mo.
WTexasStoner
This is proof of the value of Union membership. Any cashier or dept head made the same when they reached 3 years seniority.
IjustsaywhatIthink
Not to mention that shutting down immigration takes out huge numbers of potential workers.
realgeorge73
Aww poor boomers, that polluted our water, air, fucked up the economy multiple times, fucked up the healthcare system, etc. /s
BennyT1000
I tried to explain this to my mum. She is 1 of 4 kids. I'm 1 of 3. I've got 2. Supply and demand.
UneventfulLover
Wages are SUPPOSED to rise according to cost of living +some more for "better life". Or the hours should drop. Not the opposite.
FoxySpirit
Literally the opposite. You left a job, another was open. I know the stories of people looking for work in the 50s and 60s. 80s+ were bad.
babycheesehead
What rate did baby boomers eat, adjusted for inflation? $25/hr?
T3NM1DG3TS
Minimum wage was, I believe, higher than that when adjusted for inflation. Not to mention much lower cost of living, greater benefits 1/2
T3NM1DG3TS
And prevalence of unions driving up wages, which meant that many more jobs paid above minimum wage 2/2
IsaacNuetron
After all, it's basic simpleton economics...
beesleep
boomer told me he made less in the Navy and worked 24/7 (lol no.) so no one deserves $15. looked up the pay & inflation it was = $17/hr.
manhands
Still very tough to live on $17/hr. Why doesn’t that matter to whomever?
Culuf
"Today I had a wrong opinion but I said some partially true stuff so I'm gonna act like the entire thing is right." - Boomers
cnphilli
could say the same thing about this post
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cnphilli
idk, i thought I was pointing out this post had false information.
Culuf
Sorry, thought you meant my comment. That is what I was saying about this post lol
cnphilli
oh, well then just a misunderstanding on my part. We're on the same page
Ironybutbackwards
17$ an hour is menial? I work for less than that dang….
Iranoutoftonerthisismylifenow
I want to respond but mostly I love your name
Ironybutbackwards
Thanks!
ElectricLeprechaun
Yes they will. The machine grinds people to a pulp, regardless of numbers.
Armyguy8382
You should also tell them that when they entered the workforce 1 full-time minimum wage job could support a family of 4
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
Which, you know, was how minimum wage was designed to work
glenlochie
No it couldn't
AnonsAndMinions
*A family of 4, a house, and at least 1 car with enough to set aside for savings
TheN8
Now you need 4 full-time jobs to support a family of 1...
Metlahaed
That’s how it should be
Furverus
"You can do that now!!" they will scream and argue without ever accepting information that proves otherwise.....
Starfury42
That $35,000 house adjusted for inflation would be $150k when they bought it. Nobody would've been able to buy one.
thefrompleman
lol my mum bought her first house with a years worth of wages as a typist, last I checked that same house is now valued at £2.3mil
thefrompleman
I'd need to work roughly 230 years at min wage, saving only for the house to be able to afford it now :D
Imgerruinedimger
My mom worked part time at McDonalds and had her own apartment and put herself through nursing school. Still thinks thats possible...
Fishkeeper
Show her one of those inflation calculators and whatever rent is in that area now.
Imgerruinedimger
Oh beleive me, I have tried everything. She just says "FOX news says you're all lazy so....."
puffcorn237
Tell her that nurse to patient ratios don't make sense and that she should be able to take on more patients because the hospital thinks so
MelodyLightfoot
I made the mistake of looking for appartments because my current place will be torn down in 2 years... $1400-$1700 a month for a bedroom 1/
MelodyLightfoot
not 1 bedroom apartments, fucking bedrooms. Being rented out by corps like a goddamn appartment. Nothing below $2500 for actual appartments.
VaultGirl69
I explained this math to my conservative parents and even they get it. But they vote as the church and Fox tells them to.
AuntieCoddswaddle
Do they even try to have a justification?
VaultGirl69
Church. That's it. They're not racist towards black people anymore, so that's a plus. They're just not smart and easily scared.
AuntieCoddswaddle
I’m sorry, I don’t get it. How would their church know how they voted?
ADegenFromUpcountry
1/2 Boomers aren’t working in food service though. They’re the ones who own the restaurants, and they’re the ones who take up a table for ->
martineb72
There are plenty of old people having to work in the food service. They are also very right wing and believe everything Fox tells them.
ADegenFromUpcountry
2/2 two hours at peak times, demand endless attention and leave a shitty tip. As employers and customers, they want to keep their costs down
pr3viso
Because I parked cars for less than minimum wage for 4 1/2 years I know what serv is. REM some seniors have cognitive deficiencies ( ?)
INeverWaitForIt
They're also the ones passing the legislature to allow child workers to keep costs down too.
ADegenFromUpcountry
Oh yeah, that too.
HtNrN
Nobody tell this guy about inflation.
g0st
While we're not mentioning things. Please keep the fact that robots and AI will replace these jobs to yourself.
backrideup9
*greed
Pining4TheFjords
Or that there are more millennials than boomers... And millennials and gen z combined is definitely more.
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pr3viso
Oh, but I do. Can't afford liquor anymore. Or wine. Or eating out. Or brand name anything.
TheYoungerChrisEvans
Eating out is free at our house ;)
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pr3viso
Zero calorie diet
TheYoungerChrisEvans
True, but I get bigger when I eat it
Fridgesavers
It's annoying, I sold my soul, have 'just' enough money but no time. Man, time is valuable!
CharlieandOliver
Pick 2: Enough money to afford wants. Enough time to enjoy wants. Healthy enough to enjoy wants. Yay!
pr3viso
Did 15yrs on rotating 12hr shifts. I totally lost faith in life during that time. All for fam, handicapped son. I wish no one that life.
eleanorugby
Millennials are a larger generation than Boomers.
TotallyNotTheNSAGuys
But we know what we're worth.
g0st
Yes, you're worth just below what it will cost to replace you with machines or AI.
TotallyNotTheNSAGuys
Viva la fucking revolution it is
imakestuffintothings
Yes, they overtook Boomers in 2019 https://www.statista.com/statistics/797321/us-population-by-generation/
FistfulOfAssholes
Only currently bc the boomers are dying off. At the same ages the boomers were much much more plentiful.
imakestuffintothings
Peaked at 78.8mil in ‘99 https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/04/28/millennials-overtake-baby-boomers-as-americas-largest-generation/
imakestuffintothings
Also depends on whether it’s Global or a specific country measured. For USA, immigration added heavily to the U.S. born population 60s-70s.
KarateCanine
$17/hr? What is this? A livable wage for 2005?
dohcohv
I bought my house in 2015 making $13.50/hr.
KarateCanine
A little context. A livable income in my city for a family, requires both parents to work at a minimum for $29/hr. And that study is 1/
KarateCanine
From 2019.
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
Which city is this? I've been thinking about moving out of California for a few years now... Single, barely a few bucks over min wage.
KarateCanine
Why would you want to move here if 2 people need to make 29/hr each to survive.
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
Move "here" where? I'm saying that if it's as bad as Cali, but outside of Cali, I'll avoid there.
ontarioOT
We've been asking for a livable wage for so long that the wage we asked for is no longer a liveable wage.
RogueKitsune
Yep... I make $17/hr currently; it's only *barely* enough, and only because my old car's paid off (and hasn't died...yet...)
thedudeman519
If I wasn't behind on rent 17 am he would be enough for me to have ....100 dollars a month for other expenses
jonalexassblast
Yeah, that wouldn't pay for my 400 Sq ft apartment in the ghetto. 40 hours for a car payment and insurance. Then I'm broke.
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jonalexassblast
New car and full coverage. Premiums constantly changing.
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defnotaplane
A used car costs about the same and has worse financing and higher insurance rates, and will likely die sooner. Always better to buy new now
johnvictor
Yup and not like there were that many affordable used cars on the market in the past 5 years anyway.
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LordHosk
it depends on where you live, in most of the US 17 is a very livable wage for a single person, just not in major cities or the coasts.
LordHosk
Grand Rapids MI 1 Bed 1 Bath 700 Sqft Apt. ~$800/month or 6 days work. Ft Wayne IN 1 Bed 1 Bath 800 Sqft ~$700/month just over 5 days work.
LordHosk
Hutchison KS, 1 Bed 1 Bath 900 Sqft ~$500/month less than 4 days work. Greely CO 1 bed 1 bath 600 Sqft 450/month 3.5 days work.
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KarateCanine
I live in the cheapest province in Canada. And the city is 60k people.
TK421isAFK
OK, but how many jobs are available in Salt Mine City?
nero4ty2
If you took home everything, but you don’t, taxes, insurance etc take a good chunk, then you pay for electricity and maybe gas, water>
nero4ty2
Internet, then car, insurance, food and you’re broke. All of the places you mentioned definitely need a car, which also needs gas and at >
nero4ty2
That point your just barely surviving. If you live in a city moving to BFE also costs a ton of money with no guarantee of a good job
spookyactionatadistance
I make shy over 6figures and although not broke it is not the gilded life a 100k + salary used to provide. I'm in the top 12% earners in my
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GpaSags
2025: Burger flipper wanted, 1-3 years experience required, Bachelor's degree preferred, $13.50/hour "No one wants to work!"
realgeorge73
This!
SeriousYouCantBeShirley
I would love to flip burgers if it paid well.
7Rhymes
Crazy how the generation telling us for our whole lives that we need College now say we should of been smart about not going.
Shaodyn
Hard to imagine why nobody would want to do a job that was framed as failing at life for an entire generation.
ItsFunnyBecauseItsTrue
Excellent point
Shaodyn
"Study hard or you'll end up flipping burgers for a living!" Implying that you'd failed at what you set out to do and this was rock bottom.
thedudeman519
Used to work for Meals in Wheels. Still some of the fondest memories and great times in my life. My fri had begged , BEGGED me to get him in
thedudeman519
Half way through the first day he said he couldn't do it it was "beneath him"
Shaodyn
He sure changed his tune fast.
thedudeman519
I'm pretty sure he's a cop now
Shaodyn
I distinctly remember being told that I needed to study hard and do well in school or I'd, quote, "end up flipping burgers for a living."
Shaodyn
As if flipping burgers meant you'd given up on what you actually wanted to do in life.
thedudeman519
I've been in bands most of my life. As far as I'm concerned I've always been doing what I wanted to. Jobs were just to pay for housing etc