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Nov 30, 2016 3:28 AM
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wellju
What you guise are doing there is not even close to a democratic vote by definition.
Spidey209
Congrats Democrats. You played yourselves.
Rasayana
Remember a time when the US election system was not a shitshow? Yeah, I don't either.
reallyolddispatcher
Would you like some cheese?
kossuth
Interesting to note that any state with even suspected voter suppression or fraud in the primaries went to Clinton... Interesting...
Jramodarr
http://imgur.com/vu958YB
HtownFreethinker
Shitposter
havoc433845
Ironic name free thinker lmao
km9v
The dems really fucked themselves over.
JohnWilkesTableorBooth
1. She won both popular votes 2. Accepted both delegate votes 3. Is legally allowed (even tho she didn't) to request recounts
JohnWilkesTableorBooth
And I am aware other third party liberals may be acting vicariously through her, but again, all legal
BurlRavenscroft
Remember when the country didn't want nazis in charge so we said "fuck the electoral college, we don't want nazis in charge!" ?
Schmedes
No I do not remember that. Mostly because the EC has never flipped for a different president.
TheRicM
Dem cock ass
EverydayIdleness
"Gee golly the elections might show some corruption".
saishuhane
Boy howdy, say it ain't so!
Hoopdajon
TheManSpider
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IBuiltAFreakingArk
TalkRlyehianToMe
Do you know how fucking weird it is to find your own gif in a comment section
IBuiltAFreakingArk
I probably got it FROM you, maybe... 5 degrees of Kevin Bacon kinda thing
yikesaroni
where do i start? not the delegate count, the superdelegates. and even if she had gifted those to Bernie, he would still not have enough
inboxmefoxes
Seriously, this is just an image of the Wyoming results.
jtb1313
Honestly she started with a 500 pt lead and I can almost guarantee you that swayed the vote because talk of some one being in the lead is
jtb1313
Very persuasive
yikesaroni
Bernie was running an anti-DNC campaign, there was no incentive for DNC superdelegates to side with him even if he won their state
yikesaroni
and finally, Hillary won the popular vote against Bernie, so really this entire post is just a failure
fivecharacters
*popular vote not including voter suppressed democrats and not-registered democrats AKA the people who decided the election
Vegapunk
Explain, pls.
jeki187
I mean she only won 2/3 of the open primaries where independents could vote. She lost so many of those super fair and not suppressing caucus
iownanamericanshorthair
You are missing the point. Clinton is all over the place with her "popular vote win" against Trump these days. This post responds to that
wfwood
yeah the movement was pushed by jill stein. pay attention man.
Barkinsons
She did win the national popular vote against Sanders. This is just the count for Wyoming
HtownFreethinker
Yes it's a response alright, a dumb response!
2late2hate
you're in the wrong place if you're looking for understanding in anything casting a poor light on dems.
DrForester
Except Clinton beat Bernie in the popular vote in the Democratic Primaries. Was about 3 million votes more than him.
yikesaroni
hillary hasn't asked Trump to hand over electors, she already conceded ages ago. you just have an axe to grind, and its not working
Bruhbeans
Its just a divide and conquer online spam campaign. Trying to pit Hillary and Sanders supp against each other and split the democrates
ProfessorBlackHole
Which is why people didn't vote for him. They didn't think he had a chance. And now we've got Trump. :)
DrForester
Republicans successfully smeared a popular senator with manufactured scandals. Imagine what they'd do to a Jewish socialist.
DrForester
I think people are deluding themselves that Bernie would have done any better in the General than Clinton.
kryptography
I think that Clinton was an extremely weak candidate. I wanted her to beat Trump but I think Bernie would have had a better chance.
joedan31
The Midwest states thats helped trump would have voted for sanders
DrForester
What makes you say that? They bought into Trumps lies and grandstanding. Would have been the same with Bernie.
ProfessorBlackHole
No, because they voted for Trump for the same populism that they liked Bernie for. And those states are very liberal, so... you're silly. :P
DrForester
Worth noting that Clinton won the national popular vote in the primary by about 3 million votes compared to Sanders.
HtownFreethinker
Shh, they (the idiots) don't like facts around here!
BatmanAndCradleRobin
number does not include caucuses which bernie won most of.
fivecharacters
*popular vote not including voter suppressed democrats and not-registered democrats AKA the people who decided the election
fivecharacters
But keep at it. I'm sure these kinds of tactics will keep the republicans in power for decades.
falsedols
And what percentage of the total vote is that?
BonerJamsOh3
In a system with caucuses that don't count every vote, where she was given a 400-delegate head start, and many closed primaries.
DrForester
Maybe Bernie should have read the rules before joining the primary, rather than bitch about them well after it had started.
BonerJamsOh3
Maybe he did and was making an attempt to raise the national consciousness to the rules so they could be amended and improved? Hmm...
Spidey209
the delegates declared early influencing the popular vote.
Mitheledh
Which amounts to a little over 1% of the total vote.
Piornet
Irrelevant in a winner take all system.
ahokusa
Trump announced it was rigged, and that after they fixed it, he apparently had the popular vote. Which reminds me of how he claimed to
ahokusa
See hundreds of muslims celebrating atop buildings on 9/11. No one saw it. But he did. When no one else did. Only him.
ZBOZZ
I thought there were actual news reports right after 9/11 of some assholes in jersey doing this?
ZBOZZ
A very small and almost negligible amount though
ahokusa
I think trump just actually believes these "things" happen. And to think this person who has delusional problems has his hands on the button
ahokusa
Boy, oh boy.
A1ekazam
Also worth noting the leaks proving she essentially rigged the election...but it's not really gonna make a difference... we're doomed.
DrForester
Right wing played the Bernie or bust people like fiddled and got them to buy into the rigged primary BS
HtownFreethinker
Total bs you are spewing, the leaks showed there was planning on strategy, but Hillary was not even involved, you are full of bs!
DrForester
When in fact, there might have been bias, but Bernie ultimately just didn't run a good campaign. The DNC didn't sabotage him.
letmeseethefunny
Down vote due to excessive kool aid overdose and poison from use of CNN
DrForester
Well, except for the leaks showing she didn't rig the election. You're right about us being doomed though.
A1ekazam
The primaries? It was pretty much confirmed... wiki leaks showed it in the emails.
vowofloudness
Got a link to the specific emails that pretty much confirmed it?
DrForester
No they didn't. The DNC never sabotaged Bernie's campaign. And the emails show they never sabotaged his campaign.
A1ekazam
I know what I read... but I didn't bother down voting, and I'm not "throwing a hissy fit" I simply disagree with you.
DrForester
But in the end, there was no sabotage. The primary wasn't stolen, and Bernie fans were played like fiddles to think it was.
DrForester
But hey, you keep throwing a hissy fit and instantly downvote my replies. Still doesn't change the fact that Bernie ran a bad campaign
DrForester
At most, some DNC members had a bias.And given that Bernie changed party affiliations a few months before the primaries, it's not surprising
Lemesplain
How much of that was driven by her 400-0 starting spot? The world may never know.
DrForester
Maybe if Bernie wanted to change the primary rules, he should have started his campaign more then five months before it started
Lemesplain
Bernie announced his candidacy in May of 2015. Hillary announced in April. One month equals 400 delegates?
DrForester
Yes. Because that's how super delegates work. They're basically endorsements. They endorsed the Democrat.
DrForester
More than welcome to dislike them, but those were the rules in place when Bernie changed party affiliation to Democrat so he could run.
miados
didnt she also have more votes vs obama 8 years ago in the dnc election?
DrForester
Caucus voting make exact number impossible to know. Their race was far closer than Bernie's. Some estimates put Clinton ahead. Some Obama
miados
huh when i looked it up the other day it said she had more, but honestly i didn't care enough to delve to deep and verify it.
perseco
Also worth noting that there were numerous reports of voter registrations being changed/dropped without voter consent.
GreaterDog
Just the new policy in general, of some states requiring pre-registration as a Democrat, all to block new voters in a grassroots movement.
iAmLordBeer
Yeah, because they didn't want a Donald Trump character to come out of nowhere and win their nomination by getting votes from non-Dems..
LegendsBlade
Let's also not forget that in many states independents, Bernies largest audience, could not vote in primaries
HtownFreethinker
Well dammit call the FBI, make a report and turn over any evidence that you have, OR YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP!
cruz881
Let's also not forget the Alamo.
vowofloudness
They could, but they chose to register as independents instead.
BarrelLemon
America isn't ready for socialism, the old are brainwashed against it but they outnumber the young who see what capitalism does to society.
wobbu
this is why registering as an independent is fucking stupid. i know it's symbolic and stuff, but seriously don't do it.
honknwave
Well, close to half the states have open primaries allowing anyone to vote for any party. So no it's not stupid.
honknwave
You have to be part of the club to vote for club president. I am all for opening these laws up, but that's the way it works in some states
leetheflea
In California I'm registered independent, but got to vote who ever side in the primary..I voted Bernie.
SquidJesus
This is all exactly why I say we need to break down the system a bit. Much like a game of Jenga, just pull the right parts to build it up.
honknwave
Yes. Thank you for saying that.
Mcflyvol
Yeah but they were all illegal votes -Trump
dubone99
The funny thing is, the same lying memes cause my Bernie Friends to say the same at the time. Fake news is going ruin us.
GreaterDog
Illegal immigrants, felons, dead people!
HtownFreethinker
Sure and they voted Democrat? Because only Democrats are the crooked ones, you are pathetic!
IGuessDinosaursArePrettyCool
Well it doesn't take a genius to figure out who illegal immigrants would vote for.
HtownFreethinker
What are you babbling about?
KunFayyaKun
I'm 2 for 3 and I didn't vote...
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Jarjarthejedi
[citation needed]. 17,000 is a huge number to claim for the entire US, much less 1 state. Studies have shown the count is under a hundred.
TheUnsolicitedDuckPic
They deleted there bullshit comment
Jarjarthejedi
http://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/alleged-voting-dead - NY, 2004, 2600 accused dead voters, 0 proven cases.
chiefrunswithscissors
Yeah pretty sure you're confusing real life with an episode of the Simpson's
TheUnsolicitedDuckPic
They deleted their bullshit comment
TheUnsolicitedDuckPic
I don't believe you, but if you can provide a link and source I'd like to read it.
DrForester
Quick google search doesn't even turn up breitbart links claiming something so far fetched.
TheUnsolicitedDuckPic
Yeah already did a search. Waiting on a link...