Nov 23, 2016 7:25 PM
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jarhead670
Would probably need a big wall to hang such a large mirror, no???
Tanahagae
It is criminal that no one has posted a gif Buffalo Bill's "I'd fuck me."
liedtocheatecandmiztreaded
Go to any other country illegally than do something else illegal and see what happens. Then compare it to the U.S. legal system
WitcheryGrubb
There's nothing quite like watching yourself get fucked from behind.
dogfavoriter
But then we'll see how fat we look.
Thranx
A wall can't consent. It's not a sentient being. These people are monsters.
JesusGil
Yeah a huge expensive wall is great US. Very smart guys make it huge. It will solve all your problems, genius.
mplatypus
Drill some holes in the wall, then you can fuck that wall.
SargeIsSarge
I don't recommend fucking a wall though.
vakrys
At a certain time, on a sunny day, that would lite a really big fire.
aeonicentity
Two words, Louisiana purchase. Oh you meant politically, not physically.
Christx30
We're no different than any other country would be with the resources and power we have.
Vigvisir44
Really, we should look at ourselves? There's a reason people are trying to get over here. Fix your own fucking house first!
Kaitlynincanada
Whenn will my reflection showww who I ammm insiiiiiiide? -Mulan
Imagine Russia would place nukes in Mexico we would only be protecting our borders. Wouldn't we. Its about respect between allies.
nj23dublin
What if, hear me out here, what if we put a big mirror on the big wall??
IsPhrasingNotaThingAnymore
I don't want to fuck a wall. Ya know, if I can help it.
SquanchingInHere
They are...in the shape of a space telescope though
Pullout69
Everyone is racist and a bigot, except me!
alittledab
SpankyButtSniff
Just the best.
browsib
?siht ekil uoy era yhw
EdgyLitirmor
You clever fucker you
kingbrithis
DavidFe
I see what you did there
OF37
ok you made me laugh, +1 you asshole
TwoPeasOnePod
YouPeopleMakeMeSick
Hail Satan!
duckshooter
!dloG
KStudios
Country of immigrants, yes. But those immigrants got here legally and were registered and vetted first.
honestb
Please go ask some historians about that.
TheSublimelyMagnificentJechtUsernameMarkIII
But I'm not sexually attracted to walls.
whywouldicare
You mean a two way mirror so we can watch them?
TGWeaver
A two way mirror is just glass.
LongCommentChainAppreciator
Not with that attitude. Wait, you actually made sense :
breakdancingzombies
Not if it has mirror on both sides... two way mirror?
But that's the same as a double-sided mirror
My head hurts... someone save us
ProgressPanda
How does one fuck a wall?
nihilistdad
Through a glory hole.
LosPer
We did...and we didn't like what we saw, and decided we needed a change...
Munchman347
But it's too late, Donny's in...
justvenomcake
And now many of the hardline members of the two major parties are no longer in power in congress.
You know that's not correct, right?
Aztastic
But how can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real?
thaihor
Nothing is real. Everything is a simulation.!
Mmmbopanddropit
~Real eyes realize real lies ~~~~
chopchoptime
Go away jaden smith
SmeesNotVeryGoodTwin
How can are votes be real if our third parties aren't real?
youdontknowhowtoeatmuffjohnsnow
Mirrors can only reflect what the soul wants to see
FloppyFingers
A lot of it comes from the Public Schools and the lack of real education. But no one likes to hear that.
QuiteQueefy
Also the fact that we have defunded all programs but STEM. Kids might not know shit about civics, but they sure can cut apart a frog
steve1907
I really didn't like hearing that.
TheSmitty17
Especially the people trying to defund it
ImHighTheScienceGuy
Which oddly enough are the same people that are all for self reliance.
vekcal
Yeah we should change the education system of 20+ years ago! It's not like the people who just came out of the system tend to be informed
nerdyvet
A GREAT deal of the problems with education stem from the lack of societal value on education. It's better, but think about sports stars vs-
scientists. Well formed literature vs. Twilight. Jocks vs. nerds IS still present in society on many levels, and it affects all levels from-
funding, to teacher quality, to the desire of the children themselves to commit to learning. Lots of people ignore the last one. You can't--
FORCE a child to learn. They have to value the knowledge, and WANT to learn it. We've turned into a CHORE though, and society says "hey--
it's all good, you'll make more money as a sport star or actor anyway!!". It's an exceedingly complex problem and not JUST "the system"
mrthroatwarblermangrove
What?!? How dare you suggest we should actually be taught truth and diversity awareness!! What about our jerrrrbs?!!
onthe6ball
Sure as hell, the Constitution is no longer taught
LincolnsVengeance
Yes it is. I was taught the constitution in both High School and Middle school. They haven't changed the material in the last 3 years.
eldridge749
Oh god school made me stupid.... I can't learn beacuse.... if you are waiting to be taught you are not much of a student, learn what???
You are being incoherent
Storyainthadnomoral
You're being primly patronising
Just pointing out we can't understand your point.
Who's this 'we'? I think I understood what eldridge was getting at, which was that people will look for excuses before taking responsibility
TheDeanofLean
What are you attempting to say?
You are casting blame on external factors for what is an internal problem . u never learn what u don't want to know.
coolbeanslooseit
Yeah. Your school fucked up to be honest.
sangheraj
-which wouldn't happen if they had better funding
We have problems but we are still the country guiding the rest of the world in terms of culture, economics and technology.
kgiraffe
Nahh.
Ok I reverse my opinion.
Well that was easy. :-)
JohnnyDeformed
Lol what a myth.
Ah yes the inevitable smug disagreement with no information to back it up, what took you so long?
Lol some teenager is mad somebody disagreed! I assert that your point is wrong. USA is not a "cultural leader". Now prove your point.
I'm 33, wife and 3 kids good job good education and not mad. It's just my opinion because the whole world consumes our media and inventions
I guess it depends on what you mean by culture, we deff don't have the best food.
Think about all the crap that started in the US, light bulbs, cars, audio/video, PCs, internet, blue jeans electricity, the list goes on.
mediaboy911
Why is it such a bad thing to want people to enter legally!?!?!?!
boyanthebard
It's not. But building a wall is a money waste and puts out a hyper nationalist message to other nations. It makes us look really bad.
The wall would cost 25 billion. Yes, but illegal immigration costs the U.S roughly 113 billion anually. (1).
Even if we subtract the 40% that come over on planes it would still add up to an annual cost of roughly 65 bilion (2).
Do you think a little fence will reduce that 113 billion number at all? The 25 billion will just be an added cost. We're at 137b now. Great.
How would they get through a well guarded wall?
Go around it. Fly over it. Drive through it at the gate. Walls worked better a couple hundred years ago. They are now an expired technology.
Source?
If you actually just google how much the u.s spends on immigration Google brings up the answer for you.
The only place where I find the number you've used is a 2013 widely disputed report by FAIR.
Your absolutely right, it does send a message. We're SERIOUS about security. Nothing wrong with that.
What security?
Exactly
No, it sends a message that is interpreted as "we don't like people that don't look and act like us."
That's a hefty assumption. Regardless if someone agrees with you or me, it doesn't negate the need for security.
NeganSmash
since when were borders to a fucking country offensive??
BattloidKouji
Strawman argument. people are arguing against the wall, not the border. the wall is expensive and ineffective. it's just a giant E-peen.
SherMattLockSmith
Because we are the main cause of the conditions in mexico that causes illegal immigration into the USA, and we need to step back, look 1/2
2/2 at our fucking selves and realize that our war on drugs is the main contributor to the illegal immigration situation.
We just need to reform drug policies to stop shoving billions of dollars into Mexican drug lords pockets that fuel the cartel wars.
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
The huge quantities of drugs being consumed is the problem, not the War on Drugs. Ir you deceiminalize drugs, the cartels will still (1
exist and will steal, extort, traffic humans, organs, guns, and assasinate people (2
Drug profits are 99% of cartel's income, legalizing, regulating, with ready access and addict treatment would cut that profit to nothing.
otherotherbarry
Globalists man
[deleted]
Affordable consumer goods that are affordable because first world retailers pay third world workers shit all wages.
We have a border, a wall would not be an effective use of resources, but it is a campaign hook to reel in the gullible.
improbablypooping
Since it offended the PCs. We already have walls, fences, etc. and spend a shit ton on border security. But don't mention that to them.
you would spend billions of dollars on an ineffective wall just to piss off the "PCs"? I can't tell if you're serious.
The PCs got offended by his comments but we already build walls, fences, deport illegals, etc. and spend hundreds of millions $ on it.
They're "offended" because the idea is ineffective and stupid. It's a literal waste of money.
There offended because it's PC. We have been spending hundreds of millions $ for years on border security. Ask, why so offended now?
CigaretteMan
They're not. But a wall would be very expensive and likely very ineffective at keeping illegals out. Hence the ridicule.
pronoun
They are though. The wall idea was scrapped for a more realistic plan. It's about secure borders. But people are seeing that as xenophobic.
BoobiesMeow
Alright but it's not an actual wall. It's more like strategically placed fences and walls to make it easier to apprehend illegals.
Most illegals in America fly then overstay their visas. Wall's gonna do fuck all
I don't care. All I'm stating is that it's not an actual continuous fence let alone wall.
SubtleOrc
It's a fucked up campaign promise that appealed to racist rednecks with no plan or reasonable expectation it would ever happen
It was actually the white working class Voters who had voted for Obama then switched to Trump that won him the election.
It was actually a small number of voters in key swing states, which is the normal way that the highly partisan blue/red electoral sys works
Whatever it is, it's not the main route that illegals are coming into the country. So why piss away >$1billion on it?
Cause we spend a lot more than a billion$ on illegals in our prison system.
And a wall, or fence, or magic force field, isn't going to reduce that number, because it's not the main way illegals get in.
jarhead670
Would probably need a big wall to hang such a large mirror, no???
Tanahagae
It is criminal that no one has posted a gif Buffalo Bill's "I'd fuck me."
liedtocheatecandmiztreaded
Go to any other country illegally than do something else illegal and see what happens. Then compare it to the U.S. legal system
WitcheryGrubb
There's nothing quite like watching yourself get fucked from behind.
dogfavoriter
But then we'll see how fat we look.
Thranx
A wall can't consent. It's not a sentient being. These people are monsters.
JesusGil
Yeah a huge expensive wall is great US. Very smart guys make it huge. It will solve all your problems, genius.
mplatypus
Drill some holes in the wall, then you can fuck that wall.
SargeIsSarge
I don't recommend fucking a wall though.
vakrys
At a certain time, on a sunny day, that would lite a really big fire.
aeonicentity
Two words, Louisiana purchase. Oh you meant politically, not physically.
Christx30
We're no different than any other country would be with the resources and power we have.
Vigvisir44
Really, we should look at ourselves? There's a reason people are trying to get over here. Fix your own fucking house first!
Kaitlynincanada
Whenn will my reflection showww who I ammm insiiiiiiide? -Mulan
JesusGil
Imagine Russia would place nukes in Mexico we would only be protecting our borders. Wouldn't we. Its about respect between allies.
nj23dublin
What if, hear me out here, what if we put a big mirror on the big wall??
IsPhrasingNotaThingAnymore
I don't want to fuck a wall. Ya know, if I can help it.
SquanchingInHere
They are...in the shape of a space telescope though
Pullout69
Everyone is racist and a bigot, except me!
alittledab
SpankyButtSniff
Just the best.
browsib
?siht ekil uoy era yhw
EdgyLitirmor
You clever fucker you
kingbrithis
DavidFe
I see what you did there
OF37
ok you made me laugh, +1 you asshole
TwoPeasOnePod
YouPeopleMakeMeSick
Hail Satan!
duckshooter
!dloG
KStudios
Country of immigrants, yes. But those immigrants got here legally and were registered and vetted first.
honestb
Please go ask some historians about that.
TheSublimelyMagnificentJechtUsernameMarkIII
But I'm not sexually attracted to walls.
whywouldicare
You mean a two way mirror so we can watch them?
TGWeaver
A two way mirror is just glass.
LongCommentChainAppreciator
Not with that attitude. Wait, you actually made sense :
breakdancingzombies
Not if it has mirror on both sides... two way mirror?
LongCommentChainAppreciator
But that's the same as a double-sided mirror
breakdancingzombies
My head hurts... someone save us
ProgressPanda
How does one fuck a wall?
nihilistdad
Through a glory hole.
LosPer
We did...and we didn't like what we saw, and decided we needed a change...
Munchman347
But it's too late, Donny's in...
justvenomcake
And now many of the hardline members of the two major parties are no longer in power in congress.
LosPer
You know that's not correct, right?
Aztastic
But how can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real?
thaihor
Nothing is real. Everything is a simulation.!
Mmmbopanddropit
~Real eyes realize real lies ~~~~
chopchoptime
Go away jaden smith
SmeesNotVeryGoodTwin
How can are votes be real if our third parties aren't real?
youdontknowhowtoeatmuffjohnsnow
Mirrors can only reflect what the soul wants to see
FloppyFingers
A lot of it comes from the Public Schools and the lack of real education. But no one likes to hear that.
QuiteQueefy
Also the fact that we have defunded all programs but STEM. Kids might not know shit about civics, but they sure can cut apart a frog
steve1907
I really didn't like hearing that.
TheSmitty17
Especially the people trying to defund it
ImHighTheScienceGuy
Which oddly enough are the same people that are all for self reliance.
vekcal
Yeah we should change the education system of 20+ years ago! It's not like the people who just came out of the system tend to be informed
nerdyvet
A GREAT deal of the problems with education stem from the lack of societal value on education. It's better, but think about sports stars vs-
nerdyvet
scientists. Well formed literature vs. Twilight. Jocks vs. nerds IS still present in society on many levels, and it affects all levels from-
nerdyvet
funding, to teacher quality, to the desire of the children themselves to commit to learning. Lots of people ignore the last one. You can't--
nerdyvet
FORCE a child to learn. They have to value the knowledge, and WANT to learn it. We've turned into a CHORE though, and society says "hey--
nerdyvet
it's all good, you'll make more money as a sport star or actor anyway!!". It's an exceedingly complex problem and not JUST "the system"
mrthroatwarblermangrove
What?!? How dare you suggest we should actually be taught truth and diversity awareness!! What about our jerrrrbs?!!
onthe6ball
Sure as hell, the Constitution is no longer taught
LincolnsVengeance
Yes it is. I was taught the constitution in both High School and Middle school. They haven't changed the material in the last 3 years.
eldridge749
Oh god school made me stupid.... I can't learn beacuse.... if you are waiting to be taught you are not much of a student, learn what???
ImHighTheScienceGuy
You are being incoherent
Storyainthadnomoral
You're being primly patronising
ImHighTheScienceGuy
Just pointing out we can't understand your point.
Storyainthadnomoral
Who's this 'we'? I think I understood what eldridge was getting at, which was that people will look for excuses before taking responsibility
TheDeanofLean
What are you attempting to say?
eldridge749
You are casting blame on external factors for what is an internal problem . u never learn what u don't want to know.
coolbeanslooseit
Yeah. Your school fucked up to be honest.
sangheraj
-which wouldn't happen if they had better funding
ImHighTheScienceGuy
We have problems but we are still the country guiding the rest of the world in terms of culture, economics and technology.
kgiraffe
Nahh.
ImHighTheScienceGuy
Ok I reverse my opinion.
kgiraffe
Well that was easy. :-)
JohnnyDeformed
Lol what a myth.
ImHighTheScienceGuy
Ah yes the inevitable smug disagreement with no information to back it up, what took you so long?
JohnnyDeformed
Lol some teenager is mad somebody disagreed! I assert that your point is wrong. USA is not a "cultural leader". Now prove your point.
ImHighTheScienceGuy
I'm 33, wife and 3 kids good job good education and not mad. It's just my opinion because the whole world consumes our media and inventions
ImHighTheScienceGuy
I guess it depends on what you mean by culture, we deff don't have the best food.
ImHighTheScienceGuy
Think about all the crap that started in the US, light bulbs, cars, audio/video, PCs, internet, blue jeans electricity, the list goes on.
mediaboy911
Why is it such a bad thing to want people to enter legally!?!?!?!
boyanthebard
It's not. But building a wall is a money waste and puts out a hyper nationalist message to other nations. It makes us look really bad.
justvenomcake
The wall would cost 25 billion. Yes, but illegal immigration costs the U.S roughly 113 billion anually. (1).
justvenomcake
Even if we subtract the 40% that come over on planes it would still add up to an annual cost of roughly 65 bilion (2).
boyanthebard
Do you think a little fence will reduce that 113 billion number at all? The 25 billion will just be an added cost. We're at 137b now. Great.
justvenomcake
How would they get through a well guarded wall?
boyanthebard
Go around it. Fly over it. Drive through it at the gate. Walls worked better a couple hundred years ago. They are now an expired technology.
nihilistdad
Source?
justvenomcake
If you actually just google how much the u.s spends on immigration Google brings up the answer for you.
nihilistdad
The only place where I find the number you've used is a 2013 widely disputed report by FAIR.
justvenomcake
If you actually just google how much the u.s spends on immigration Google brings up the answer for you.
mediaboy911
Your absolutely right, it does send a message. We're SERIOUS about security. Nothing wrong with that.
nihilistdad
What security?
mediaboy911
Exactly
boyanthebard
No, it sends a message that is interpreted as "we don't like people that don't look and act like us."
mediaboy911
That's a hefty assumption. Regardless if someone agrees with you or me, it doesn't negate the need for security.
NeganSmash
since when were borders to a fucking country offensive??
BattloidKouji
Strawman argument. people are arguing against the wall, not the border. the wall is expensive and ineffective. it's just a giant E-peen.
SherMattLockSmith
Because we are the main cause of the conditions in mexico that causes illegal immigration into the USA, and we need to step back, look 1/2
SherMattLockSmith
2/2 at our fucking selves and realize that our war on drugs is the main contributor to the illegal immigration situation.
SherMattLockSmith
We just need to reform drug policies to stop shoving billions of dollars into Mexican drug lords pockets that fuel the cartel wars.
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
The huge quantities of drugs being consumed is the problem, not the War on Drugs. Ir you deceiminalize drugs, the cartels will still (1
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
exist and will steal, extort, traffic humans, organs, guns, and assasinate people (2
SherMattLockSmith
Drug profits are 99% of cartel's income, legalizing, regulating, with ready access and addict treatment would cut that profit to nothing.
otherotherbarry
Globalists man
[deleted]
[deleted]
Pullout69
Affordable consumer goods that are affordable because first world retailers pay third world workers shit all wages.
eldridge749
We have a border, a wall would not be an effective use of resources, but it is a campaign hook to reel in the gullible.
improbablypooping
Since it offended the PCs. We already have walls, fences, etc. and spend a shit ton on border security. But don't mention that to them.
BattloidKouji
you would spend billions of dollars on an ineffective wall just to piss off the "PCs"? I can't tell if you're serious.
improbablypooping
The PCs got offended by his comments but we already build walls, fences, deport illegals, etc. and spend hundreds of millions $ on it.
BattloidKouji
They're "offended" because the idea is ineffective and stupid. It's a literal waste of money.
improbablypooping
There offended because it's PC. We have been spending hundreds of millions $ for years on border security. Ask, why so offended now?
CigaretteMan
They're not. But a wall would be very expensive and likely very ineffective at keeping illegals out. Hence the ridicule.
pronoun
They are though. The wall idea was scrapped for a more realistic plan. It's about secure borders. But people are seeing that as xenophobic.
BoobiesMeow
Alright but it's not an actual wall. It's more like strategically placed fences and walls to make it easier to apprehend illegals.
browsib
Most illegals in America fly then overstay their visas. Wall's gonna do fuck all
BoobiesMeow
I don't care. All I'm stating is that it's not an actual continuous fence let alone wall.
SubtleOrc
It's a fucked up campaign promise that appealed to racist rednecks with no plan or reasonable expectation it would ever happen
BoobiesMeow
It was actually the white working class Voters who had voted for Obama then switched to Trump that won him the election.
SubtleOrc
It was actually a small number of voters in key swing states, which is the normal way that the highly partisan blue/red electoral sys works
CigaretteMan
Whatever it is, it's not the main route that illegals are coming into the country. So why piss away >$1billion on it?
BoobiesMeow
Cause we spend a lot more than a billion$ on illegals in our prison system.
CigaretteMan
And a wall, or fence, or magic force field, isn't going to reduce that number, because it's not the main way illegals get in.