Freedom OR Social Justice? Why not both?

Feb 8, 2022 3:01 PM

dnute

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The most loved Italian President.
He was a Partisan, he joined the Italian resistance movement against the Nazi German occupiers and Mussolini's new regime. Arrested by the Nazi, he was sentenced to death, but then saved by a partisan raid. He then organized partisan war in North Italy and had a primary role in the Milan uprising of 25 April 1945, which led to the execution of Mussolini.
After the war, he was elected in the Italian Chamber of Deputies, becoming its president in 1968, then President of the Italy in 1978.

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bUt I dOnT wAnT tHeM gEtTiNg My TaX dOlLaRs

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Fighting nazis gave that generation a clarity we sorely lack. The fascists tide was stymied for decades because they didn't fuck around

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You can do whatever you want! As long as it doesn't require money, time, or dignity.

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Georgian activist Dzhugashvili said it best

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cOmMuNiSm!

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I asked someone today what "financial freedom" meant. They said some stuff about having enough money to do extra things. Then I asked 1/

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what the opposite was, and they didn't have a good answer. I suggested "wage slave," and they got pissed off.

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we seem ot be edging closer and closer to that bad place every day.

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As an American I’m free to starve free to live on the streets free to die of any disease of my choosing so if it’s free it’s for me

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Hey. You are bleeding on my floor.

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“You have the right to complain, but so help me God if you try to change.”

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Americans are nowhere near free. Prostitution, drinking (below 21), cannabis, cursing or nudity on tv or newspapers, all illegal (1/2)

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in most of US; legal in other 1st world countries. Meanwhile, we're economic slaves to our jobs or risk homelessness or medical bankruptcy.

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I mean, yes I would consider that man free. Freedom and security (financial security in this case) are different things. It's okay to...

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...acknowledge this difference, but understand that both are important to quality of life.

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i used this at my new job to explain why i decided to apply. i am able, so i believe i have a moral obligation to help those who aren't able

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That sounds like survival of the fittest (=the best adapted) to me. What the edgelords believe in is survival of the strongest.

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I wouldn’t even say survival of the fittest. Creating significant wealth takes equal part chance and adaption. Most are born into it, too.

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Best prisoner's dilemma strategy is initial cooperation with retaliation in betrayal, I think.

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Tit-for-tat, or two-tits-for-tat to cover errors. Best strategy in -repeated- prisoners dilemma.

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That might have been the one I was trying to remember!

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Freedom has two parts. Positive and negative. American are often obsessive in claiming their negative freedom, and forget about the positive

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America has "stupid freedom".

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John stuart mills?

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He might’ve first described the concept but it’s very mainstream in political philosophy at this point.

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I like to call it the difference between theoretical and practical freedom. I'll pass up the freedom to die preventably if it means I'm safe

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Tbh they’re both pretty practical. The right to healthcare and the right to free expression are both vitally important in my mind.

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Born out of war and rebellion against an authoritarian dictatorship... concerned with not having rights stripped, you say?

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Positive rights are rights too

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Yes. People usually live through their circumstances though, and it's not a matter of having the correct view on rights. At that point.

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Classically it's discussed as positive and negative rights. Negative right: The right to not be attacked; the right to defend yourself...

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the right to bear arms. Positive right: the right to be given a gun and ammunition. Sometimes societies have decided positive rights...

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are to be given: Romans often received the spoils of war, The US provides legal defense, China promises everything as long as you don't...

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The US was founded on only having negative rights, except when the state imposed itself upon you, hence the right to legal defense when....

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Yes. The difference is in how they’re provided. Positive rights are granted by the states actions, negative rights by the states inaction.

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