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(note: Carrol Burnett's show was before my time)
In spite of the humor and stereotypical nature of the show (across the board), Katey Sagal/Peggy Bundy was the most outspoken, personally confident, and IMO funniest woman television character of the era. More than the show itself changing TV comedy, I think, she set the bar (which was set artificially low by television producers) for women to be more than "a placeholder" or "a thing to look at" on a comedy sitcom. Even though she wasn't Al, she was 1 or 1A in the "household," which in and of itself changed the standard.
Without her, do we have the same Seinfeld...? Or Friends? Or even Sex in the City?
VonTodesbringer
Hot Lips Houlihan? https://static.cinemagia.ro/img/resize/db/actor/01/15/76/loretta-swit-452536l-poza.jpg
jpreeves2
Roseanne (her show was totally groundbreaking). Shelley Long. MTM.
Iwouldbenick
Carla Tortelli changed the game.
bumblebeerumble
I dont care how old this woman gets she is damn hot
HatchA115
Still would
PiratePaisan
All time favorite tv mom ever. I still plan to be her for Halloween someday.
TheGgreen100
I used to have the biggest crush on her watching that show and couldn't understand why Al wasn't attracted to her. Smoking hot.
guyfromtn
Al was a lucky man.
DiceyBusiness
I liked her better in Futurama.
just4thelolz
Same. That's where she really got to be funny.
icopro
Bon Bons
gonesurfyn
truthsmiles
Her character in Futurama is also great. If you haven't watched it, I recommend!
playingdead2022
Rosanne bar for me
thematman
Do you get asked that oddly specific question often?
BryNoSportsCreator
My all time crush still love her more than ever !
HerMajestysSecretButthole
Al set it for me. His egotistical, misogynistic tendencies set me on the righteous path of NO MA’AM enlightenment
kaztas
He was for me. No matter his wailing, crude, rude, misogynistic ways. He loved his family and would put himself in harm for them at times.
paddybrown
Smart House!
thattimeijoinedthecircus
https://imgur.com/2jdUgmE
PiratePaisan
All time favorite tv mom ever. I still plan to be her for Halloween someday.
nattyd20
RustyCreakySqueaky
Leela?
heebiejeepie
I've "fancied a bito o' that" myself.
Whatswrongwiththispicture
She also worked as a backing vocalist for Bob Dylan, Tanya Tucker, Bette Midler, Gene Simmons, Molly Hatchet and Olivia Newton-John
NR97420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd7tEsAuspA
decoyyy
I so wanted her and John Locke to be happy together T.T
Bytencoder
HRW when you get nearly decapitated by a helicopter's spinning main rotor blades.
Bytencoder
*tail rotor
jlcurtiss
Never understood why Al thought it was burden to have sex with her.
jjm152
Because she was a selfish lazy bum. Peggy is not a good person, she treats everyone horribly.
tsunamijoe
someday you will. someday.
NR97420
FWIW Roseanne was the next breakthrough, setting the Barr even higher.
insoleindependent
Boooooooo terrible joke +1
Chad0uken
Nice, I see what you did there
PitBullCuddles
setting the Barr wider you mean
NR97420
I am also angry at myself for not listing her show ahead of Seinfeld. I like Roseanne more than any of the other shows
quattroformaggix4
It was realistic. Their love was real, their fights were real. I hope they capture that unpolished, genuine spirit in the remake.
quattroformaggix4
Roseanne, no question for me. Peggy Bundy was outspoken but minimised. & she was very much an objectified thing to look at IMO. Was she ever
quattroformaggix4
actually funny? I don’t recall a single incident. We watched that show as a family & I bloody hated it. It was entirely stereotypical.
NR97420
She was able to *create* her character, and the sitcom, and it was a more "realistic" version of the Bundy household, it seems.
prettierandyoungerbutnotanybetteroff
I don't know why you're being downvoted for this. Katey Sagal is more prolific but Roseanne was real in ways the Bundys weren't.
NR97420
I deserve scorn for forgetting Roseanne in the original post, but that green light may not happen without MWC
NR97420
Also I'm fully versed on Futurama and Lee Lemon.
WrongUn
Ah you must be a man's man's man!
NR97420
Listen, Wingus, or Dingus, whoever downvoted that comment is going to get a face full of Jergen's real soon if you don't take it back.
meowmixofdeath
probably some homeless guy with ashy elbows
MrTylerWpg
This comment fills me with hope and some other emotions that are weird and deeply confusing to me.
NR97420
Not so much on Sons of Anarchy, but I heard she's bad-ass awesomesauce in that, too.
Dyslexicbirch
I hated her character on Sons of anarchy but i love her as an actress
singedrino
That's because she did great.
liana77
Despised Gemma, but awesome actress.
HeRulesWithARubberFist
Rewatching the series on Netflix as we speak, it was absolutely epic. She was outstanding throughout
TheJonSnowShow
Futurama or Sons of Anarchy?
HeRulesWithARubberFist
SOA
TheJonSnowShow
"That young man fills me with hope. And some other emotions which are weird and deeply confusing."
NR97420
KIF! Grab me the Pert n' Popular!
Endocrom
What shall I do with your jergens, sir?
iHaveDoneNothingButTeleportBreadFor3Days
Squirt it on some homeless guy with dry elbows.
KainWhisper
We damn sure don't have the same Sons of Anarchy without her.
GlowingKira
Preach!
skullified
Oh Gemma... you crazy, crazy bitch
Gravevoid
Or Futurama.
IKnowAndIDrinkThings
IKnowAndIDrinkThings
She is one of my favs in sons and plays Leila great in Futurama.
moshthun
FuryDivine
I'M FUCKIN' RAPTUROUS!!!
moshthun
That scene was so Dukes of Hazard, I loved it!
WhySoSeverusSnape
Literally the first SOA gif i've seen here.
moshthun
You finish the entire series?
WhySoSeverusSnape
On my third run right now actually!
moshthun
NIIIICE, then I suggest you type SonsofAnarchy in the search bar, there are some decent GIF dumps.