They’re leaning into the narrative of revelations. A higher ranking officer just went on record telling his troops that the war on Iran is needed to fulfill the prophecies in revelations.
Although I'm 90% certain this is facetious and not a genuine assertion of biblical prophecy, I'm compelled to point out what I always do when someone comes forward claiming a particular thing to be "the Mark of the Beast": Per Revelations 13:16-17, said mark is "the name of the beast or the number of its name", can be received on the forehead OR hand, and is also legally required to buy or sell goods. No objection to taking a shot at those stupid hats, just tired of apocalyptic prognostication.
On one hand, one would think that Satan could field a vastly more impressive top agent than Donald J. Trump.
On the other, Christ was anticipated to be a military leader rather than a rabbi, so it's not like there's no precedent for Biblical prophesy to throw curve balls.
The Bible dos not say this. It’s a blend from two versss in two different books. In fact, it says the opposite. I’m tired of seeing this old shit, but it gets clicks.
If you just cherrypick the right thing and interpret it the right way the Bible can be contorted to predict literally anything and everything. It is a very silly book.
Well it says that there will be followers, it doesn't specify Christians but it doesn't exclude them either so not really the opposite. Unfortunately I know the Bible in and out, I wasted a lot of time studying to come to the conclusion that it's the incoherent ramblings of morons that make no sense what so ever.
The opposite part is about Christians receiving the mark of the beast. Revelation 2:3 (iirc) says specifically the non-believers will receive the Mark.
I asked my fundamentalist MAGA dad how he didn’t know this was true and his answer was akin to “Trump is the most moral man in the country. He couldn’t possibly be a false prophet.”
"Surely reason and logic will convince them this time" "I'll point out their hypocrisy and then they'll have to change their mind" "This epic takedown will definitely shatter their views and make them come to their senses"
My dad's the same way. I don't talk to him much anymore. Got into a lil disagreement on here with someone that thinks we can convince these cultists to recant their beliefs. We know by experience they're beyond help.
Remember when Trump's primary opponents pointed out the NY Democratic party kicked Trump out in 2000 after Al Gore lost the Presidential Election because it didn't look good for the NY Democrats to have someone who was at the time accused of 13 sexual assaults (its up to 27 now) right after the nation rejected a candidate (Gore) who was merely associated with a former President who got a consensual BJ, but cheated on his wife to do so?
So dad, you ever fuck a sex worker while mom was at home pregnant? You know, the same woman who you cheated on with your 2nd wife who was the same woman you cheated on with your first wife?
He bought a cup with Trump’s face on it saying “best husband ever.” First time I saw it, I laughed and thought it was a gag gift. Then I learned he actually believed it. I reminded him Trump has cheated on all of his wives but dad didn’t see the contradiction.
I think a lot of them are completely aware of the similarities between trump and the antichrist and that's why they voted for him because right wing american christians are a death cult who think if they check off all the right boxes, they can force the apocalypse to happen. Which is, frankly, an incredibly blasphemous position to take
I think this is exactly right. They are no different from other religious groups throughout history that believed they could predict when the end times were coming and were wrong.
Which has always been hilariously absurd to me. These delusional fucks think they are going to *checks notes* ...loophole the creator of everything and get him to show up when they want, not when he wants. Cool cool cool.
That’s the actual definition of taking god’s name in vain: to speak or to act based on what *you* think god wants. It also doesn’t help that conservatives have a hard time with subtlety and analogies.
That’s why one of my favorite takes on the afterlife is the last book in the chronicles of Narnia. The ultimate moral of the story was that you will be judged for your actions and not which god you performed those actions for that will result in your ultimate afterlife.
From what little I know of the biblical end, being proud of being a person wearing the mark means you missed the part where those were the people killing gods chosen people.
What's even WILDER to me, is say they're right and bring Jesus back. What do they think he is going to do, when he sees their unspoken past and sins, stuff they cannot hide? For all non-believers , bear with and humor me for a minute. Revelation even specifically talks about this, those crying "Lord, Lord", and he rejects them, saying "I do not know you." He compares them to goats among sheep, as chaff before the wheat. If this is their belief and basis for reality, they have no thinking skills
yes, but remember, they believe they are saved just by saying the magic words. Faith without works, but they think that will be enough for them to be snatched up without getting tainted by the burning world (that they created)
They seem to want the Bible to rule things that can go against the people they dislike, or who they have been told to dislike, but the parts about kindness towards others, and working on the betterment of society, naw, even though their religion is named after the guy who told them to do unto others as they would do to him. But they've followed the money changers to become the pack calling for the crucifixion.
Similar thing happened with Judaism, according to the New Treatment. That’s partially what the parable of the wicked tenants is about. They rejected the things God wanted them to accept, even his son, and turned towards evil instead.
You forget, they can do anything horrible and God will forgive them instantly. Same mentality they have about everything, the bad things won't happen to them it happens to those heathens that deserve it.
It is also super dumb, like yeah no shit if you do everything wrongheaded and hope for failure your society will experience apocalypse. Nukes just give them the silver lining that everyone else might get apocalypsed too, which is I guess biblical in its stupidity...
A Christian theocracy has always been dumb and pointless. Revelations says Christianity will dwindle and only a handful will remain true to the teachings of Christ. God must come down to create New Jerusalem himself, humans cannot do it, they will never achieve a godly nation or earthly paradise.
If they're so keen on being accepted into Heaven and leaving us behind, surely they should divest themselves of all their wealth and let everyone leftover have it.
It's actually brilliant because taking your own life is obviously a sin, can't meet the creator early on purpose. Working towards the extinction of the entire species, that somehow gets around the no meeting god by your own hand rule? Their whole theology is a fuckin mess and a half.
ForPriestSake
They’re leaning into the narrative of revelations. A higher ranking officer just went on record telling his troops that the war on Iran is needed to fulfill the prophecies in revelations.
chrispisme
If I remember right it also states “Satan also quotes scripture”…take from that what ya will about the current administration
69Voltage
Stupid repubs
Sulanis
Yeah, I brought this up to my borne again in laws. They couldn't argue with me..
I think that's what they hated the most. Were Canadian, but they like Trump, Poilievre and the entire Maga world wide dumb ass tour.
ActuallyAPirate
Well the Bible is a load of shit so https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1ZWFlbGlieTBvbHYwZ2NoYW9lbmY2eGNnaTd4dzc4YjIzeGYxdWg5OCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/gSJfzjAfRUCly/200w.webp
pintgudge1975
Regime change in the United States now!
Grimlinnan
iPez
you know. Israel has 200 nukes and they have a sansom protocol in case they are defeated. Makes sense all billionaries are making bunkers.
Revicus
Although I'm 90% certain this is facetious and not a genuine assertion of biblical prophecy, I'm compelled to point out what I always do when someone comes forward claiming a particular thing to be "the Mark of the Beast": Per Revelations 13:16-17, said mark is "the name of the beast or the number of its name", can be received on the forehead OR hand, and is also legally required to buy or sell goods. No objection to taking a shot at those stupid hats, just tired of apocalyptic prognostication.
Ih8thisSoMuch
Nothing will ever test my atheism like trump's parallels & SPOT ON resemblance to the biblical antichrist
http://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/
Sechran
On one hand, one would think that Satan could field a vastly more impressive top agent than Donald J. Trump.
On the other, Christ was anticipated to be a military leader rather than a rabbi, so it's not like there's no precedent for Biblical prophesy to throw curve balls.
YoungCheesey
Honestly, this is pretty wild for those people.
rdwilson
The modern day dunce cap
JackingMeHoff
MAGAts following their Pied Piper.
DJThuglifeSupreme
eastend666
We have the dumbest voters and dumbest non-voters. I never thought things would be so grim.
IamnotarobitIseethenumber2
Every accusation is an admission...
LostChats
The Bible dos not say this. It’s a blend from two versss in two different books. In fact, it says the opposite. I’m tired of seeing this old shit, but it gets clicks.
innagaddavidababy
Yeah, but the Bible is full of shit.
Causeitsmadeofmeat
Always has been
Causeitsmadeofmeat
And Dr.Seuss predicted that he WOULD like green eggs and ham. What's your point
alcamar
They know he's effectively the Antichrist in this story and that's the point
RigidGristle
CrazyT2018
nimeton0
Meanwhile, in the rest of the world...
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Greenlanders know what's up.
jerusalemspider
permanently would be nice
PopeTom
I think part of their Armageddon prophecy requires that the anti-Christ rule for something like 3 - 4 years.
So American Evangelicals will support him/her/them for all the same reason they also support Israel.
Because they are a F'n death cult.
MajinHercule
And yet they were shitting their pants over Obama being the Anti-Christ, and I'm like "Wait, isn't that a GOOD thing?"
PopeTom
The don't acknowledge Jesus was a Palestinian Jew.
A Black anti-Christ is right out.
HandFireWeapon
If you just cherrypick the right thing and interpret it the right way the Bible can be contorted to predict literally anything and everything. It is a very silly book.
LostChats
The person who made this meme was really bad about cherry picking. In fact, it’s not even cherry picking the Bible says the opposite.
HandFireWeapon
Well it says that there will be followers, it doesn't specify Christians but it doesn't exclude them either so not really the opposite. Unfortunately I know the Bible in and out, I wasted a lot of time studying to come to the conclusion that it's the incoherent ramblings of morons that make no sense what so ever.
LostChats
The opposite part is about Christians receiving the mark of the beast. Revelation 2:3 (iirc) says specifically the non-believers will receive the Mark.
Nanntuckett
I asked my fundamentalist MAGA dad how he didn’t know this was true and his answer was akin to “Trump is the most moral man in the country. He couldn’t possibly be a false prophet.”
LostChats
It’s not true. The person who made the meme blended two horses from two different books, and the Bible actually says the opposite.
mrsparkle001
Holy delusions Batman!
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
The only man who appears more in the Epstein files is Epstein.
rgraz65
"The Trumpstein files"
GlennBecksChalkboard
"Surely reason and logic will convince them this time" "I'll point out their hypocrisy and then they'll have to change their mind" "This epic takedown will definitely shatter their views and make them come to their senses"
Nanntuckett
I’m not naive enough to think I’ll change his mind. It’s more of an experiment to see how deluded he is.
hyperchondriac
My dad's the same way. I don't talk to him much anymore. Got into a lil disagreement on here with someone that thinks we can convince these cultists to recant their beliefs. We know by experience they're beyond help.
Nanntuckett
They’ll never go back on their beliefs. I firmly think they’d rather die than admit they were wrong about Trump.
SOLARvsFACISM
Remember when Trump's primary opponents pointed out the NY Democratic party kicked Trump out in 2000 after Al Gore lost the Presidential Election because it didn't look good for the NY Democrats to have someone who was at the time accused of 13 sexual assaults (its up to 27 now) right after the nation rejected a candidate (Gore) who was merely associated with a former President who got a consensual BJ, but cheated on his wife to do so?
Nanntuckett
Gore won the election. He won the popular vote and electoral college, but the Supreme Court stole it from him.
MajorNikon
So dad, you ever fuck a sex worker while mom was at home pregnant? You know, the same woman who you cheated on with your 2nd wife who was the same woman you cheated on with your first wife?
Nanntuckett
He bought a cup with Trump’s face on it saying “best husband ever.” First time I saw it, I laughed and thought it was a gag gift. Then I learned he actually believed it. I reminded him Trump has cheated on all of his wives but dad didn’t see the contradiction.
Smingersdidit
I think a lot of them are completely aware of the similarities between trump and the antichrist and that's why they voted for him because right wing american christians are a death cult who think if they check off all the right boxes, they can force the apocalypse to happen. Which is, frankly, an incredibly blasphemous position to take
Quizz25S
Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Isn't that like helping Judas betray Jesus to the Romans because you know the Messiah has to be executed?
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1MjFwd3Fic3Q5cThxZWEwZ3VidG1uZHlicGlhanM0cjJvbHpuNmRrdiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/l1J9wXoC8W4JFmREY/200w.webp
travislabranche24
I think this is exactly right. They are no different from other religious groups throughout history that believed they could predict when the end times were coming and were wrong.
prolorus
Hegseth attends weekly Bible Study
cjandstuff
To an extent, yeah, there are way too many people who believe they can force end times, but I never thought I'd see them CHEERING for the antichrist.
andrewgrr1
Yup! "Clearly I know better than my omniscient diety."
Grapeape2000
Yup, you cannot imminatize the eschaton.
DocWino
That’s the position our military is taking.
basti0731
Which has always been hilariously absurd to me. These delusional fucks think they are going to *checks notes* ...loophole the creator of everything and get him to show up when they want, not when he wants. Cool cool cool.
Eyeetsass
They’re not wrong. They can check the boxes to trigger global nuclear war. It would be the end times for anything we would recognize as society.
420supercoolusername69
That’s the actual definition of taking god’s name in vain: to speak or to act based on what *you* think god wants. It also doesn’t help that conservatives have a hard time with subtlety and analogies.
TorrentialUpPour
That's giving them too much credit. They struggle with basic fucking literacy.
TheTojo15
No man, angel nor the son knows the hour or day but only the father. Paraphrasing but is says so in their own scripture
Smingersdidit
Yup, and that anyone who claims otherwise is a false prophet.
DesolatedMaggot
NonyGony
Because they all believe they'll receive an 'apocalypse pardon' from God, via The Rapture
GenXHippie
They want their glory now, damnit.
OneMoreLime
You want glory? Go drill a hole in the wall.
Rocknswimmer116
That’s why one of my favorite takes on the afterlife is the last book in the chronicles of Narnia. The ultimate moral of the story was that you will be judged for your actions and not which god you performed those actions for that will result in your ultimate afterlife.
From what little I know of the biblical end, being proud of being a person wearing the mark means you missed the part where those were the people killing gods chosen people.
Cthulhuchooseyou
What's even WILDER to me, is say they're right and bring Jesus back. What do they think he is going to do, when he sees their unspoken past and sins, stuff they cannot hide? For all non-believers , bear with and humor me for a minute.
Revelation even specifically talks about this, those crying "Lord, Lord", and he rejects them, saying "I do not know you." He compares them to goats among sheep, as chaff before the wheat. If this is their belief and basis for reality, they have no thinking skills
OutOfTheHat
yes, but remember, they believe they are saved just by saying the magic words. Faith without works, but they think that will be enough for them to be snatched up without getting tainted by the burning world (that they created)
allyouneedtodoisbreathe
http://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/
NotSinceTheAccidend
If they meant nuclear apocalypse then… we sure are heading that way!
CapttainKillJoy
It shows that these people don’t know the Bible that they want others to follow. I’m a Christian but I’m not THAT kind of Christian.
rgraz65
They seem to want the Bible to rule things that can go against the people they dislike, or who they have been told to dislike, but the parts about kindness towards others, and working on the betterment of society, naw, even though their religion is named after the guy who told them to do unto others as they would do to him. But they've followed the money changers to become the pack calling for the crucifixion.
CapttainKillJoy
Similar thing happened with Judaism, according to the New Treatment. That’s partially what the parable of the wicked tenants is about. They rejected the things God wanted them to accept, even his son, and turned towards evil instead.
TheobromineAddict
Yes, and I'm not sure that they want to go to heaven now as much as they want to see the libtards punished.
sparmek
You forget, they can do anything horrible and God will forgive them instantly. Same mentality they have about everything, the bad things won't happen to them it happens to those heathens that deserve it.
tychog99
"Just repent and accept jesus into your heart and all will be forgiven"
They literally believe any and all sins are forgiven as long as you tell the priest about em
DocWino
You mean the guy that diddles their children?
tychog99
Yeah of course
OneMoreLime
It is also super dumb, like yeah no shit if you do everything wrongheaded and hope for failure your society will experience apocalypse. Nukes just give them the silver lining that everyone else might get apocalypsed too, which is I guess biblical in its stupidity...
basti0731
A Christian theocracy has always been dumb and pointless. Revelations says Christianity will dwindle and only a handful will remain true to the teachings of Christ. God must come down to create New Jerusalem himself, humans cannot do it, they will never achieve a godly nation or earthly paradise.
Smingersdidit
Ah, but they think they'll be saved and not have to experience the consequences. That's only for the rest of us.
McMasterx
If they're so keen on being accepted into Heaven and leaving us behind, surely they should divest themselves of all their wealth and let everyone leftover have it.
OneMoreLime
It's actually brilliant because taking your own life is obviously a sin, can't meet the creator early on purpose. Working towards the extinction of the entire species, that somehow gets around the no meeting god by your own hand rule? Their whole theology is a fuckin mess and a half.