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Do's and Dont's
Aug 5, 2017 9:05 PM
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frankreynoldsthefrogkid
What about parents not allowing medical care for their kids? Like blood transfusions
USD1
So where was this picture during the gay wedding cake bakery bullshit?
WhangaDan
Im running out of data none of you can browse Imgur
nesste
I am 12 bucks over my data plan, I feel you.
Coltx45
T mobile...
qeruioprqeuiporeuioprqeuipo
The top one is the baker who refused to bake a cake for a gay wedding.
hikidsdoyoulikeviolence
ratfaceddog
"But I didn't say you couldn't do that. God did. My god, of course, who is obviously the real one."
sgv1
I can't pay taxes because of my religion
DarPhyve
If you buy a holy building and lead services in it, you can do that.
12rt2345g342563
That fine. Here's your one way ticket to Somalia.
fredbloxx
so you're a 1%-er?
outvilejelly
Which religion? The cult of 'the Government is the Problem'?
supersomatic
then you can't live freely in the country as a result of your choices. Nobody said consequences wouldn't apple
somepersondoingsomethings
Not to mention priests and such pay personal income taxes. The institution or church doesn't but the money they take home is taxed.
eitoku
Lol if your religion teaches you to be disrespectful and judgmental, then better not have one.
flarflarf
For Every Complex Problem, There Is an Answer That Is Clear, Simple, and Wrong.
spudpicker
But a big wall WILL immediately solve all our immigration problems, right?
kevbot5000
Yes. give or take the roughly half of people that come legally and then overstay their visas.
Treblaine
"Pfft, it's simple. Heavier objects fall faster. Variable air resistance is too complicated to explain consistent acceleration of all mass"
agermanguy
"I can do that because of my religion " is also something not ok .
AsSeenByMacaroni
People shouldnt be allowed to practice religion?
moose9377
No.
TylerWalker666
You can't do my religion because my your.
assissantmanager
Can't your religion do my you because my.
Blazefast
So glad i live in a small country in a small town..
scratchimo1
It's against my religion for you to say that I can't do it because it's against your religion so you can't do that
Spacecaseartist
I would do anything for love, but you can't do that.
esavvy
Can we include veganism on this one!?
frpgn
ImJurj
Wanna know who else agrees with op...
YouSuckHahaImJustKiddingYoureAlright
HAAAAAMBOOOONINGGG
Thristen
Hamboning will save your life!
frpgn
"You'll be all, 'you trying to mug me?!'" Patpatpatpatpatpatpatpat
AnotherVote
CmdrEngineer
Was at work, had a huge bag of pork rind / sctrachings 1/x
CmdrEngineer
One of the Muslim / Islamic co-workers who has and is a dick said I could not eat them because it offended him 2/x
CmdrEngineer
So I ate the whole thing in view of him later, no hr backlash since they knew he was a dick
Zaxon
Except when it comes to baking a cake
atticusrexus
As a Christian, I have always found this argument pretty odd. If I were to create a religion that is based on skinning male dogs and 1/?
atticusrexus
consenting adults to death, and I said I needed to do that, but you don't have to. What is the reply? Let them? 2/?
CatchyUsername123
Both of your examples are about forcing others, which is where it would stop
alsoAzrael
I'm concerned about the specificity of this example.
Reconcephelafacon
Law violation. My right to move my arms stop at a persons face.
ratfaceddog
Leave common sense out of this!
supersomatic
Ethically I see no issue with that. The dogs can't consent, however, so that would violate the rules above
framingplant
I can't stop sacrificing the neighborhood children to the Mayan god Quetzalcoatl.... because of MY religion
jordanschlansky
I found this amusing.
red411
Let's compromise, donuts
Treblaine
d0o0o0d
Arsikere
don't call me a donut. I'm a PASTRY, thank you.
samsonguy920
That's gonna be against Dunkin's religion.
KrondorMocker
Let's compromise...... deeze nuts
6580017333141510
There os no compromise on this simple point. (Ironic or not). Too mamy people doesnt know the difference.
drunkbs
As long as they're holey
red411
Fwords
I'm on diet, you can't have donuts!
red411
But what about https://donutdietitian.wordpress.com/about/
Forere
I'm a vegan, you can't eat meat!
likeidtellyoumyname
I'm high on donuts, you can't have a diet!
secretlyopiniated
Got 'em
DontTazeMeBrah
Checkmate
NivalisAngelus
You can't do that. My religion forbids donuts.
bustosoon
My religion forbids compromise
red411
Cupcakes then
NivalisAngelus
Okay yeah no one can forbid cupcakes.
Jowrdan
The muffin man could
NivalisAngelus
Yeah well he rules his street with an iron fist, no one opposes him. Well.. At least for a second time.
nahclluf
Some people don't realize that this extends to a persons freedom to speak. Even if it is pure hate, they have a right to say it.
nahclluf
You don't have to listen to it though. Getting up in arms about whatever stupid shit they say just confirms to them that you are.
kevbot5000
Yes and no, you can't incite violence or cause harm with the speech. (fire in a crowded theatre, etc)
nahclluf
Well of course there are outliers like that. They're hardly ever what's talked about though.
MacDaddySmitt
Don't do what Donny Don't, does. - The Simpsons
bdograndon
Lmao bro this is Great!!
Shardinian
They could have made this clearer.
TheOneTrueOpinion
I think that only applies to knife safety though
MacDaddySmitt
Hah mah man
Vyrro
What about Kim Davis? It's not the clients' problem if aspects of your job confict with your religious beliefs.
YourWaifuIsTrash
Kim Davis was not a private worker, she was paid by the government to do a job. She decided not to do that job, so she is no longer paid.
Vyrro
1st amendment should still apply to everyone regardless. I believe her state changed licensing laws to keep this from happening again.
YourWaifuIsTrash
First Amendment protects your right to free speech, meaning you're allowed to say stuff without the government cracking down on you. I >
YourWaifuIsTrash
don't recall any part of it saying you're free to refuse to do your job because you feel that it's against your religion. If that's the >
YourWaifuIsTrash
case, then maybe don't take that job. It's not the employee's case to dictate the way the company works, but the employer's.
BunnyliciousBubblegum
I really 100% cannot fathom why this is such a difficult thing for some people to understand. If it isn't hurting or affecting Anybody, then
malexmatt
Because everybody wants to win it all. Social battles are fought for 100%, with compromise no where in sight.
BunnyliciousBubblegum
There is no reason to say anything. If you don't like something don't do it.
Custardmug
Its not black and white unfortunately. One's rights to do or not do something could infringe on others rights to do or not do something.
Mellie007
Ppl need to stop getting jobs they can't fully do. Companies need to stop hiring people who wont perform ALL their duties, especially in
Mellie007
Positions that have the chance of depriving others of THEIR rights like crucial areas like medicine or justice
Mellie007
This is good practice, not discrimination. If I don't employ you is not because you're X religion, it's bc you can't do what I need you to
Mellie007
Any reasonable objective person would acknowledge this is logical
BunnyliciousBubblegum
Okay if it infringes on your rights then it affects you. Otherwise it's nobody's business what someone does in their own lives.
LiterallyYourBestFriend
Reminds me of trans-pronouns. You're welcome to call YOURSELF whatever u want. But don't force or expect OTHERS to instantly follow suit.
channelranger
Generally people get mad when called by a name or pronoun that isn't theirs, trans or not. Especially if some dick insists they're wrong.
broutefoin
You get a choice of he, she, they or it, that's it. If you come at me with xir, xer, zee, etc. Fuck off.
channelranger
You didn't say anything about being cool with he, she, or they in the first place. Plenty refuse to give us even that.
RandomImgurian
Carefuler
Female circumcision?
IaintHuman
Is more cultural than a religious matter
supersomatic
If a woman wants to be circumcised, why would you stop her?
ButtsandBewbs
It's very hard if not impossible to find a woman who wants to be circumcised, ooyt of her own free will.
Carefuler
Usually done as child, same as male circumcision, as I understand it, so parents decision, not hers.
Sillywombatgoatsarekidstoo
It also should be "won't" not "can't". You don't want to because if your belief system, but you certainly can.
Queble
THIS describes the whole issue I have with religion, that specific numb sheepish mindset of people
RyanAndTheQuestForWorldDomination
How does that make any difference, won't or can't is just pedantic a because at the end of the day it still doesn't get done.
somekindafuckingidiot
it makes a distinction of personal choice vs alack of free will? you can hold someone responsible for what they *wont* do
Swedsman
There's a debate here in Sweden about muslim immigrants refusing to shake hands of female coworkers, where does that fall under these rules?
RationalViking
Accepting that would be to accept oppression, so they can't refuse to shake females hands, it's extremely disrespectful.
ThatWillBuffOut
They make an alternative gesture of respect that doesn't involve touching.
RationalViking
halfway there I guess.
meshaal
I don't see what the problem is. If someone doesn't want to shake hands, for any reason, let them.
Treblaine
That goes both ways. If you refuse to shake my female colleague's hand then I'm not going to shake your's and you can't then feign offence.
Treblaine
It's not really anything to do with Islam. It's a regional tradition that doesn't exist in other muslim countries.
Treblaine
It's like saying that taking your hat off as a greeting is Christian because in some majority christian countries most people did that.
TrilobiteSushi
I think "I won't shake hands cuz I'm an A/H as it is not forbidden in the Koran" would get trumped by "When in Rome, Do What Romans Do"
Treblaine
http://i.dawn.com/large/2015/03/5501feec0edab.jpg If it's not a problem for leaders of Muslim countries it's not a problem for anyone else.
TopCommenter
Is there some added significance of shaking hands in Sweden? Refusing a handshake might be awkward but I don't know where it is mandatory.
InternationalPhoneticAlphabet
would certainly fall under "i can't do that", but what's the actual reason? does islam explicitly forbid shaking women's hands, or are >
InternationalPhoneticAlphabet
> they just dicks about working with women?
DoctorVainglorious
The difference being...?
Swedsman
Idk, the overwhelming majority of muslims doesn't have any problem with female coworkers, though those who do does pin it on their religion
darkdragonempress
Honestly that sounds like jerks latching onto an excuse.
CrunchyCloud
Hostile work environment. The Muslims are in the wrong.
WeAreStevo
How is this hostile work environment? If someone doesn't want to shake my hand I say "okay" and move on.
CrunchyCloud
Because it's not personal, it's based on a sexist notion rooted in religion. Besides it's many people not just one.
Treblaine
Well if someone doesn't want to shake anyone's hand, fine, it's when only women are excluded that I refuse to play ball.
Treblaine
It's not "The Muslims" most Muslims don't make this problem. Most Muslims don't pretend such a rule exists in their religion as it doesn't.
CatchyUsername123
Sadly it sounds like enough do that this has to be a debate
Treblaine
Well lots of Christians in the deep south were (ans still are) racist against black people, but this isn't really about Christianity.
PhilMcrevice
So wait, the bakery that didn't bake a wedding cake for a gay marriage, Ok? Not ok?
votress
not ok, even if the religion forbids homosexuality, none of them say "don't serve the gays cake". just don't be gay yourself.
qeruioprqeuiporeuioprqeuipo
It's fine. The top one is the baker who refused to bake a cake for a gay wedding.
DeletedProfiles
The 2000 year old context of why Christians are against homosexuality is primarily = gay couples cant procreate. That context is out of date
DeletedProfiles
now and should be studied and reformed. Love peace and acceptance are the foundations of all Religions. Hatred in all its forms is not.
kiarasa
A lot of people seem to think that it's okay to deny them service since they can go elsewhere. I am curious, how is this different from 1/2
kiarasa
the segregation we saw in the past where there were white/colored only restaurants? That was deemed unconstitutional. What's different here?
PhilMcrevice
Well what takes precedent? That's the main question. Who's claim to do or not do something is stronger?
PhilMcrevice
So what's worse? Having to look elsewhere for a cake or going against all your religion has made you and taught you?
PhilMcrevice
If they made the cake, their religion has been violated, perhaps irreparably. If the couple just got the cake elsewhere, they were shunned.
PhilMcrevice
Segregation was done out of fear, ignorance and hatred, not religion, so that's where I see the difference.
kiarasa
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought the justification for many of those that supported segregation WAS their religious beliefs
PhilMcrevice
Plessy vs Ferguson, 1896. The civil war effectively ended slavery in 1895 however the government, not religion, enforced segregation.
bluegargoyle
Not OK. You run a place of public accommodation, you don't turn customers away due to an immutable characteristic they can't control.
RyanAndTheQuestForWorldDomination
"You run a place of public accommodation" what That seems patently false A business that I own exists to accommodate my income not your cake
bluegargoyle
The term refers to a business that is open to the public. As opposed to a wholesale distribution center which is not, fior example.
SomeCrazyNerd
Complicated issue really. I'd say it depends on specific circumstances.
GiantRobotsRule
Depends on state law. In some places sexual orientation is included in the groups you can't discriminate against (race/religion/sex/age/etc)
supersomatic
state laws do not dictate ethics.
GiantRobotsRule
No, but they dictate a lot of aspects of discrimination policy.
supersomatic
but when asked "ok?not ok?" state law is irrelevant. In that context, at least.
YourBossAndLandlordLikePolitics
joeyjojosharknado
So offensive. That top hat is way too small for that penis.
Rez098
I would say although it makes the bakery a bit of a dick, it could be seen as "You have to do this because of my sexuality". But idk
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
Unless they were Christian or Jewish is Muslim or...actually any religion, does any religion support gay rights?
romicra88
Directly, I'd say they don't agree with it, but there's many that recognize individual rights above any religious beliefs.
TallDude
Reform Judaism, at least the local temple, supports the gay community and has gay members.
iAmLordBeer
Lots of Christian denominations don't follow Leviticus by the letter.
katalavenoligoellenika
In point of fact, anyone can walk into a bakery and say "I want a cake" and neither the baker nor the customer should feel compulsion to 1/2
katalavenoligoellenika
ask nor divulge the purpose of said cake. Of course, it's a grey area if they choose to... "I'd like a red cake with black crooked armed 2/3
katalavenoligoellenika
cross centered in a white circle to celebrate mass murder of innocent people on the grounds of their ethno-religious upbringing." Uh, no.
somepersondoingsomethings
So say they don't ask questions & take the order & find out it is this terrible cake. Now they can refuse service? Who determines the line?
Drasas
If they use the religion as an excuse they must also deny barbers, tailors, shellfish-eaters wedding cakes as well per Leviticus.
JohnFisher89
shellfish-eaters are bottom holes to be fair....
qeruioprqeuiporeuioprqeuipo
And that's fine. They aren't slaves, they are private business owners.
supersomatic
you're telling someone else what they have to do. Did you see the picture above?
sol1794
1. Homesexuality is called "an abomination" so it's not on the same level. 2. This is not wanting to cater to a gay wedding
Drasas
Cutting your hair or beard is AN ABOMINATION, wearing 2 different fabrics IS AN ABOMINATION, eating SHELLFISH IS AN ABOMINATION.
sol1794
False. Maybe learn about the subject a bit. None of them are called an abomination and you can cut your hair and beard just not shave with
sol1794
A razor also it's specifically wool and linen and again only Jews were forbidden to do it same with any non kosher food
sol1794
Not refusing general service to gay people
sol1794
Also those things were only forbidden to Jews and maybe Christians as opposed to gay sex which is viewed as wrong for everyone in the bible
Zerubbabel
*if they're judaizers.
Drasas
No, they use Leviticus to justify their anti-homosexual stance. So they must follow ALL OF IT or admit they are just being bigots.
Zerubbabel
Who is they?
Drasas
bible-beaters.
GifIsPronouncedJif
What? Christians don't follow the old testament. Anyone "Christian" who thinks there are any sins besides blasphemy against the holy spirit
GifIsPronouncedJif
isn't a Christian.
Drasas
Then why do they use the old testament to discriminate against homosexuals?
somepersondoingsomethings
Who are you to tell them how to follow their religion? There are many denominations of every religion for a reason.
Drasas
If you use an old testament passage to justify your discrimination and not discriminate against others listed in the same chapter 1/2
Zerubbabel
The issue is brought up and settled in the Bible.
GuestChrist
There is a difference between personal behavior and discrimination in public accommodation. That simple.
Lukapaka
It is simple, until you try and apply.public accommodation to just about everything 'because of the roads people used to get there'
GuestChrist
A public accommodation is a private entity that owns, operates, leases, or leases to, a place of public accommodation. Places of public
GuestChrist
accommodation include a wide range of entities, such as restaurants, hotels, theaters, doctors' offices, pharmacies,
GuestChrist
retail stores, museums, libraries, parks, private schools, and day care centers.
sorceroranathema9
Completely ok in my book. However, the loss of business due to public fallout is of their own making. Personal accountability is important.
cdolvs92
But what if there is no fallout and everyone in the community realizes they can refuse service on these grounds and then acts on it
svent
What about if a bakery fired an employee because they found out they were gay?
sorceroranathema9
A horrible thing to do, but not something that should necessarily be illegal.
jordanschlansky
Except that didn't happen, they got fined into the ground and are still fighting it.
xyrax
Well of course they did. It's against the law. You can disagree with the law, but break it and there will be consequences.
PhilMcrevice
But holding someone's religious beliefs against them financially, is the definition of religious persecution. This wasn't a Corp baker...
InternationalPhoneticAlphabet
it would be persecution if they were fined or vandalized for it, but just buying elsewhere has nothing to do with that.
PhilMcrevice
What Confucius say... people need to read more and leave their emotions out of it...
sorceroranathema9
Who's religious beliefs? The gay couple?
PhilMcrevice
Back to your bridge troll, there will be no feeding from me.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
Is gay a religion? What do they say when you open the door?
fnhngest
wouldn't you know without asking with that username
magoostuff
I agree. It's their business, so they should be allowed to deny who they do work for. If they don't want the money, that's their choice.
magoostuff
I'm part of LGBT and I'm not going to throw a fit if a private business doesn't want my money. I can spend it on people who WANT my money.
sorceroranathema9
Exactly!!! This is a self fixing issue. There is no need for Gov't interference
cdolvs92
Not everywhere in the US has accepting communities where there are guaranteed other options of the same quality if at all.
magoostuff
That's true, but when it's about superfluous things like cake, it's mostly a non-issue. Hell, people could make those things themselves.
kevbot5000
Except this breaks down when you become a corporate entity and refuse service to a specific group due to your beliefs.
nanyatenyaa
You are far over simplifying the ability for a business to refuse services. There are very clear legal guidelines around this already.
Upvoter2000x
Like See Jane Go. They refuse service AND employment to men.
CrunchyCloud
Refusing service is not the same as trying to prevent someone from doing something.
PatrickDawson
You can just buy from other corporations
channelranger
What if they're the only game in town?
skelitor120
Yeah, the issue isn't with this, it's when the possession isn't so simple as "yours" or "mine". We can both share a thing and have equal--
skelitor120
-- right to have religious input.
SeaHacking
What if I own my own shop, and me being the only employee, 100% of my employees refuse to do something b/c religion?
Razblaze
Like that gay couple who sued the religious cake makers that refused to bake a cake for them? I think they made good money off that.
Razblaze
I think "just go fucking somewhere else" I understand discrimination is something we should never allow in a business.
DefconTen
By refuse service do you mean, "totally provide service if you come in the door, but not attend your event?"
alsoAzrael
That's not what happened with the bakers. They refused to provide service to people who walked in the door.
Tinkrr
I think Dave Rubin said it best, as a gay man he supports the bakery denying to bake gay cakes legally.
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Counterfit
Getting paid to do your job is slavery?
kevbot5000
Wrong, free markets don't allow for discrimination outside of price discrimination, if you want to be technical about it.
darkdragonempress
You aren't forced to serve anyone. You just can't claim to be a public accommodation if you aren't.
neoritter
As long as you don't have a monopoly it should be A-Okay. Like pharmacies are required to sell all medication, except if there's another 1/x
neoritter
pharmacy. In that case, they have to refer you to the other pharmacy. 2/2
neoritter
3/2, Also SCOTUS has ruled that everything except an incorporated for-profit can have religious exemptions. It's really a matter of time.
neoritter
4/2 Those were separate court cases, not all one go...
HamsterOnAGoat
not really, that only applies if you're talking about a legally protected group. otherwise, discrimination is 100% legal
SomeCrazyNerd
All groups in category are covered. Race discrimination laws cover whites. Sex discrimination ones cover men. Orientation covers straight.
LiterallyYourBestFriend
When someone says, "we need more diversity" - it's easily translated to mean we need less white males.
SomeCrazyNerd
Depends on if there's room or if everything in the example is filled. Also, armchair psyhiatrist all diversity lovers are raging SJWs all 1
SomeCrazyNerd
you want, it's not a real argument. It just means you don't like those people you disagree with.
HamsterOnAGoat
sure, that's not what I was saying though. My point was it's not illegal to not discriminate against all categories
SomeCrazyNerd
Not illegal to no discriminate? No, in fact that is the desired outcome of making the opposite illegal.
JD10001
Its actually the same, an employee of the corporation (CEO) is forcing the corporation (a distinct person) to act according to CEO Beliefs
SomeDetroitGuy
A corporation isn't a person. The idea that it is is a straw man argument against Citizens United.
Counterfit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood
EspyonFire
You can engage in business without corporate protection. So in reality, this breaks down when you engage in a trade or business.
kevbot5000
I could quibble and say that's more or less what I meant by corporate entity but I am aware of your distinction so kudos to better wording.
AlaskanPipeliner1
Hey! Corporations are people too!
neoritter
Tangential point, I love pointing out that the case was about Hillary Clinton suing because of a movie that criticized her.
nightripper
That's simply not true. I could be charged with, say, murder, and go to prison. They get a fine. Clearly they're something more.
Nitz257
A rich person.
kevbot5000
kevbot5000
Repetitapup
Discrimination laws, yo
kevbot5000
Well yeah, but this still seems to be an issue that is contentious even with those laws.
Syphryn
Unless you're gay or trans in a little over half the US, which is the primary form of discrimination that this picture is talking about.
VeryStrangePeople
Except no it doesn't.
Christx30
A pharmacist that refuses to dispense birth control pills because it violates his religion.
kevbot5000
This shit makes me angry, like tv smashing angry. Doctors/nurses/pharmacists etc don't get to have personal ethics in their job, full stop.
supersomatic
and I bet you agreed with the picture above, yet you don't actually believe in it. you arent pro self determination, you're just pro self.
kevbot5000
I don't agree with the picture above, there are places your personal ethics are irrelevant, health care, military, law enforcement.
VeryStrangePeople
As someone who abides by the Non-Aggression principle, I find it immoral to force a peaceful person to do ANYTHING against their free will.
kevbot5000
Then don't go into a profession that's a higher calling where your personal ethics could conflict with what's best for the patient.
Christx30
If you were in an accident, and the only doctor around was a Jehovah's witness, would you be ok with him denying you a blood transfusion?
Christx30
The needs of the patient comes first. Personal beliefs comes second. If your beliefs supersede your patient, go into tech support.
MisterWiggler37
You don't have a right to anyone's services.
Counterfit
"You have the right to an attorney"
kevbot5000
If they're providing them for public consumption you sure as shit do.
MisterWiggler37
Incorrect. You cannot, and should not, be able to force any company to provide any service for you.
MisterWiggler37
Besides, companies that do discriminate will lose out on customers' cash. Capitalism gives incentive for non-discrimination.
Counterfit
Tell that to the Jim Crow era South
kevbot5000
If it's a service they provide to the public and you haven't shoplifted there or something yes, yes you should.
MisterWiggler37
No, because then you're stealing someone's labor from them. You'd be taking someone's services without their consent.
kevbot5000
Because we have a history of huge swathes of people discriminating and you can't ignore that.
ImSorryThatIWasBornIdentifyingAsTheSexThatIActuallyAm
Businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone. Where do you live?
kernburner
"Corporations are people my friends!" What a load of shit.
SomeDetroitGuy
No one believes that. The closest you get is "corporations are groups of people so you make sure you aren't infringing on their rights.
kevbot5000
It's a convenient legal fiction that has been stretched well beyond any useful dimension, and some people seem to have forgotten that.
JimStarluck
If corporations are people, why can't we charge them with murder? Throw them in jail? Have Texas or wherever execute them?
BigTex1
You rang?
SorDavos
Nobody said they were poor people.
ThePastmaster
Well, you can't exactly imprison a building so you have these lovely fines and damages instead.
kevbot5000
Oh god, what comedian made this joke? I can hear it in my head.
Oddfish
I'm not positive at all, and I obviously don't have a source. But it sounds to me like a David Cross bit. In his wheelhouse at least.
justanotherimgurianbidenhistime
They don't breathe, eat, or sleep, either.
leavinit
Most corporations, if defined as a person, are psycopaths. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMNZXV7jOG0
JimStarluck
Or how about alien invaders? http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2010/12/invaders-from-mars.html
kevbot5000
Economics students/professors also trend that way.
katalavenoligoellenika
And yet, everyone's convinced that Skynet will be the end of mankind...
EspyonFire
Corporations are legal entities, not people. So yes whoever says they're people are dumbasses.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Read up on corporate personhood.
SomeDetroitGuy
Literally no one says that. It's an idiotic straw man argument.
Counterfit
That was a direct quote from Mitt Romney. Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood
abundantbadgers
I agree. The Supreme Court Justices are dumbasses.
sarukane
Nobody is exempt from sometimes being a dumbass. Including the Supreme Court.
abundantbadgers
Exactly. Just wish they'd revisit this ruling.
SomeDetroitGuy
The Supreme Court never said that, though.
merlinious
They did. Thats why hobby lobby is exempt on some birth control things in their insurance.
EspyonFire
Lol. Sarcasm or not, your sentence is true.
abundantbadgers
No sarcasm here. That's where it was decided.