Same. 128 GB stick with basically all the mp3 I own... which sorta means the "newest" stuff on it is from around 2016... so AUX-IN for anything streamed
Meh. I'm no audiophile, can't tell a ~224 kbps mp3 from flac even on high end equipment. I have 150 GB of mp3, no need to make it 450 for same amount of music. LAME 4 life!
Used to think wma was the shit. I could fit twice as many songs on my Creative Zen than an iPod? Sign me the fuck up!! That was before I learnt about bit rates, and was wondering why some of my tracks started reverbing and sounding tinny at high frequencies. We've all gotta start somewhere.
Its been through the wringer. It sold its home AV business to Onkyo, so if you see an AV receiver, stereo equipment, or speakers now, its just Onkyo's 'cheaper' brand (while the main brand is higher-end equipment). I believe the old Pioneer company specializes in OEM vehicle AV equipment.
They are. As for how good they are/were ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I've owned a few aftermarket stereos and I've honestly never figured out what makes one better than another, assuming feature parity.
Form as a general factor, and then ruggedness counts for a lot. I had a cd player by them that should have broken several times. The anti skip doesn't even eat too much battery. Mu mom got one if their bread machines and it ran three times a week for 15 years with no issues.
Back in the day it was the quality of the preamp (and/or wattage output for the loons that bought a HU without amping), plus EQ and/or DSP. These days its going to be screen resolution and the ease of carplay, and hey, bonus if it has a decent DSP.
Yeah, but how do you evaluate the "quality" of a preamp? I say, as someone who works with audio professionally, that almost every single aftermarket (and most stock systems, for the past 10+ years) sound...fine? The weaknesses are usually in the drivers. By which I mean the speakers, but also people set their EQ to some STUPID shit sometimes, so it works both ways.
My stock unit is the nastiest trash I can think of. It generates almost zero signal to the rear channels (on purpose) and is known for diminishing/clipping the low end. It is also the only piece of the system that I haven't replaced, because good speakers, sound-mat, and an amp with a neat little DSP are where the real improvements are made. I agree, while replacing the HU with practically anything else will make an improvement, it is miniscule compared against the difference in speakers.
Shoot, I still have the Pioneer CD unit I bought in high school in ‘98. $250 which was somewhat pricey at the time. It lived in my ‘89 Jetta and then got packed away in a box after I sold it. Took it out what 22 years later and stuck it in my ‘98 Discovery and it works perfectly! Period correct too!
You can still swap "some" new cars. You just need a programmable module now behind the stereo to pick up a bunch of the functions and plug into multiple wiring harnesses. Like a maestro rr2. The newer aftermarket head units that are compatible with those functions cost a lot more, like a kenwood dmx1057xr.
I had an '88 Prelude and goddamn if that wasn't my favorite car I've ever owned. I'd trade in my new truck right now to get that beautiful machine back. Really wish I would have hung into it so I could have fixed it when I had the money... but I scrapped it like an asshole. Hang onto that thing
Yea, it's got issues so going to drop some money into it until the new Prelude is finally on the market. If I don't like it (doesn't look like a Prelude honestly), I'll get a newer model BRZ and garage the Prelude to slowly restore it.
NEW PRELUDE?!?! Whaaaaaat?!!!! Hmmm yeah those photos don’t look very Preludey. Keeping it in the garage is a great idea. I wish I had done that for mine. Hope it works out for you!
It will, gf is like "You're not selling the car" lol. And yea they don't have the Prelude look, mostly leaning on the 4th and 5th gen. So I'm kinda half in on seriously looking at them. Performance should be very good (hopefully), Just seems like they're making a sporty looking Honda and tagging it with the Prelude name for people like us who "I want a new Prelude". Dunno, keeping my fingers crossed that's just a concept car and not the end result.
Oh and you can google 2026 Prelude, there's some articles about it. Mostly educated guesses as to look, performance, pricerange but it's becoming a highly anticipated car seems like.
Pop off the face plate and carry it with you so nobody is tempted to break into you car! Oh the ego of my younger self. Nobody was going to break into my 84 skyhawk...
Worked in Halfords, a UK car and bike shop in the early 90s. The had these face covers that looked like a crappy old radio. You popped in the front of your fancy Pioneer or whatever to disguise it. Sold bloody 1000s of them.
i had an alpine head unit with a pop off face. my buddy borrowed my car (91 cavalier) to see Spider-man. The first Tobey McGuire one. He didn't take the face off and someone broke into it and ganked my shit
I spent a five hour car ride in my 89 Chevy without a faceplate on because I thought I left it in my dorm. Wouldn’t you know it was in my damn backpack the whole time.
I had my old Mitsubishi broken into to get my stereo. Fortunately I was walking up to it when it happened and fortunately they ran away rather than do something else.
In a way it sucks that you basically can't replace the stereo in modern cars, but making impossible to just pop them out has probably helped a lot with car break-ins
I had this stereo in my old Peugeot, never bothered taking the face plate off, one day someone broke into my car, took about 83p in loose change from the ashtray and a half empty pack of mints and didn't even bother with the stereo.
Smashing a window and grabbing a nice stereo was absolutely a thing, back when it was possible to actually customise your car and dashboards weren't gigantic proprietary touchscreens.
You can still customize cars. I had a car with a "gigantic proprietary touchscreen", which due to some kind of defect was constantly contacting the sensor beneath the screen making it useless. Was $800 to replace, so instead I went to Best Buy and they put in a new stereo for about $240, including installation costs and a Bluetooth mic addon since the old one was hardwired to the broken stereo
Funny someone broke into my ‘87 Z when it had nothing. Got a new stereo and took that faceplate with me every time I left the car. But some did steal a binder full of CDs.
Daily driven. I get a week off after Christmas so I will replace the window then with poly carbonate. That way they break their hands before the glass. Lotta little things and a few big things to do this vacation
It still blows my mind they broke the triangle. That's always my quick and easy break-in when I lock myself out of the Valiant. I really can't see breaking it being any quicker than slipping a coat hanger in. Guess they didn't have a coat hanger. But same here got the slant 6 torn down rebuilding and paintin it this winter
KHaber
lol I had that exact one
stjohnston8742
Going in circuit city just drooling over it and everything alpine
IHopeMyKidsDontSeeThis
Uh, are you implying it's not cool right now?
huffnpuff72
Auto reverse tape decks were so advanced!
isetprettygirlsonfire
I still have a similar pioneer in my truck
allenvasher3000
I had a sony tape deck with a removable faceplate, installed it in my 88 f150, & hid a 12 disc CD deck under the seat.
mattcl3v3land
I literally had that exact model in my 1990 Chevy Beretta.
Mobuddy
Oh man! I had this stereo when I was like 20. Serious flex I thought 😆
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
OMG I had that one! This was my favorite setting
sochilln
Kenwood too
NorrinxRadd
Have this in my legacy, absolutely love it.
tarpettalol
spittytrinkles
Bitch puhleeze. I remember when we would huddle around the Wireless for the WARMTH!
anOrdinaryMotorist
I was so jealous of my friends when I saw those fucking dolphins
certainlynotaserialkiller
i had a Kenwood Mask. now that was something to behold. video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0UGFeRqJio
thedarktowerguy
I had the Kenwood where the whole unit pulled out. Late 80's.
treebeard432
Pioneer SuperTuner!!
7thor8thcaw
I preferred Alpine, but Pioneer was fine, too.
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
OMG I had that one! This was my favorite setting
eXoRainbow
My stereo in early 2000s
punnypanther
WINAMP! It really WHIPS the Llama's Ass!
Flaptrapper
I still play music off a USB. It's solid.
Acc87
Same. 128 GB stick with basically all the mp3 I own... which sorta means the "newest" stuff on it is from around 2016... so AUX-IN for anything streamed
akambe
Same. It's MY collection, I OWN those files, I've CURATED those tracks, and it's 100% predictable what I'll get when I demand it.
Canonmk2
I had a skin of that for Winamp, that's how cool I was
LauchMan
Did it also really whip the lama's ass?
ValamirCleaver
I put a similar in-dash Pioneer MP3 CD player unit in my 2001 Ram 1500 with 6 disc CD changer under the driver's seat. I kept that truck until 2009.
ValamirCleaver
YeastInfectedWhiskerBiscuit
DaveTheScientist
Love it! I had the exact model from the OP in my 99 Solara. Good times.
treebeard432
Smart to fuzz it out like that - somebody might try to steal it if they know what you got!
YeastInfectedWhiskerBiscuit
DunnowForgot
A colleague of mine had something that size in his Vectra. You could feel it standing outside, inside was like an earthquake.
YeastInfectedWhiskerBiscuit
AreYouAwareThatYouAreACat
Fuck luggage, gimme bass!
Nairolf
It‘s smiling :)
DukeDarkwood
I was gonna say that! Sometimes, pareidolia is just fun.
JoeyJoeJoeSeniorShabadoo
Back when wma support was an advertised feature. Don't miss that format at all. Hear that thumping, wma? That's mp3 dancing on your grave!
ItsAWonderfulButt
Lossless Flac these days
JoeyJoeJoeSeniorShabadoo
Meh. I'm no audiophile, can't tell a ~224 kbps mp3 from flac even on high end equipment. I have 150 GB of mp3, no need to make it 450 for same amount of music. LAME 4 life!
soulsource
Advertised? Yes. Wanted? Heck no. I would have paid double for Vorbis and FLAC though.
ContraryToPopularOpinionIKnowWhatIAmDoing
Used to think wma was the shit. I could fit twice as many songs on my Creative Zen than an iPod? Sign me the fuck up!! That was before I learnt about bit rates, and was wondering why some of my tracks started reverbing and sounding tinny at high frequencies. We've all gotta start somewhere.
giraffinator
Worst part was windows media player default rip was .wma, if they just left it mp3 the world would be a better place
DignamWhenAskedaQuestion
is Pioneer still around ? I remember they used to be a really good brand
skywards
Still got one in my car, bought it like 4 years ago.
RonMimnaugh
yep, just bought a bluetooth one to replace an old supertuner I had in the 20+ year old truck. It was pretty much an unplug then plug in install.
CausticLemonEnema
They are! The base model ones have great power, and BT/USB/AUX
wadenelson
The Kenwood with the big center rotary control is the hot ticket nowadays. The Pioneer "clone" is notchy when making adjustments.
wadenelson
According to many many reviewers on Amazon.
DavidBrooker
Its been through the wringer. It sold its home AV business to Onkyo, so if you see an AV receiver, stereo equipment, or speakers now, its just Onkyo's 'cheaper' brand (while the main brand is higher-end equipment). I believe the old Pioneer company specializes in OEM vehicle AV equipment.
HelpfulCorn
Aww bummer I've loved my Pioneer receivers. Only replaced the first one because it didn't have HDMI. I think this one is 16 years old
Sullivanish
They are. As for how good they are/were ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I've owned a few aftermarket stereos and I've honestly never figured out what makes one better than another, assuming feature parity.
astrangehop
Form as a general factor, and then ruggedness counts for a lot. I had a cd player by them that should have broken several times. The anti skip doesn't even eat too much battery. Mu mom got one if their bread machines and it ran three times a week for 15 years with no issues.
Sullivanish
I didn't even know Pioneer *made* bread machines. Now I want some bread.
astrangehop
Shoot wait! Panasonic. Sorry, I just woke up. Mmmm bread tho
Sullivanish
Yeah, bread is the best.
ICampOntheFirstDate
Back in the day it was the quality of the preamp (and/or wattage output for the loons that bought a HU without amping), plus EQ and/or DSP. These days its going to be screen resolution and the ease of carplay, and hey, bonus if it has a decent DSP.
Sullivanish
Yeah, but how do you evaluate the "quality" of a preamp? I say, as someone who works with audio professionally, that almost every single aftermarket (and most stock systems, for the past 10+ years) sound...fine? The weaknesses are usually in the drivers. By which I mean the speakers, but also people set their EQ to some STUPID shit sometimes, so it works both ways.
ICampOntheFirstDate
My stock unit is the nastiest trash I can think of. It generates almost zero signal to the rear channels (on purpose) and is known for diminishing/clipping the low end. It is also the only piece of the system that I haven't replaced, because good speakers, sound-mat, and an amp with a neat little DSP are where the real improvements are made. I agree, while replacing the HU with practically anything else will make an improvement, it is miniscule compared against the difference in speakers.
JustAnOldLurker
I didn't even know these stopped being a thing. I have one in my '95 Prelude.
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
They are absolutely still a thing, you can get em on amazon
badcode4o4
crutchfield
ilavalamp
They are far less common since a lot of car settings are in the "infotainment system" now so you can't just replace the audio as easily
guitardemon66
Shoot, I still have the Pioneer CD unit I bought in high school in ‘98. $250 which was somewhat pricey at the time. It lived in my ‘89 Jetta and then got packed away in a box after I sold it. Took it out what 22 years later and stuck it in my ‘98 Discovery and it works perfectly! Period correct too!
JustAnOldLurker
squishybaker
they are still made and sold, but newer cars can't use them because everything is too intergrated.
WhoCaresAboutAUsernameGuy
You can still swap "some" new cars. You just need a programmable module now behind the stereo to pick up a bunch of the functions and plug into multiple wiring harnesses. Like a maestro rr2. The newer aftermarket head units that are compatible with those functions cost a lot more, like a kenwood dmx1057xr.
WhyDontYouMakeMe
Anything is possible with a dremel and epoxy
skallagrim
i want your car
JustAnOldLurker
skallagrim
Hell yeah!
FinkeLisEinhorn
I had an '88 Prelude and goddamn if that wasn't my favorite car I've ever owned. I'd trade in my new truck right now to get that beautiful machine back. Really wish I would have hung into it so I could have fixed it when I had the money... but I scrapped it like an asshole. Hang onto that thing
JustAnOldLurker
That's exactly what I'm doing with mine:
fozymandias
I had a 93 and 03 Preludes. Favorite cars by far. Keep it as long as you can!!!
JustAnOldLurker
Yea, it's got issues so going to drop some money into it until the new Prelude is finally on the market. If I don't like it (doesn't look like a Prelude honestly), I'll get a newer model BRZ and garage the Prelude to slowly restore it.
fozymandias
NEW PRELUDE?!?! Whaaaaaat?!!!! Hmmm yeah those photos don’t look very Preludey. Keeping it in the garage is a great idea. I wish I had done that for mine. Hope it works out for you!
JustAnOldLurker
It will, gf is like "You're not selling the car" lol. And yea they don't have the Prelude look, mostly leaning on the 4th and 5th gen. So I'm kinda half in on seriously looking at them. Performance should be very good (hopefully), Just seems like they're making a sporty looking Honda and tagging it with the Prelude name for people like us who "I want a new Prelude". Dunno, keeping my fingers crossed that's just a concept car and not the end result.
fozymandias
Yeah they might be capitalizing on the name recognition by enthusiasts like us. Hope it is more than a concept for sure.
JustAnOldLurker
Oh and you can google 2026 Prelude, there's some articles about it. Mostly educated guesses as to look, performance, pricerange but it's becoming a highly anticipated car seems like.
IupvoteFeet
Pop off the face plate and carry it with you so nobody is tempted to break into you car! Oh the ego of my younger self. Nobody was going to break into my 84 skyhawk...
HightechHippieATX
Yup and with the automated pop out and swivel for cds and removal in my 89 GMC Sierra. Boy was I wrong!!!
IJE72
Worked in Halfords, a UK car and bike shop in the early 90s. The had these face covers that looked like a crappy old radio. You popped in the front of your fancy Pioneer or whatever to disguise it. Sold bloody 1000s of them.
eddiefuckyoueddie
Nor my Honda Odyssey with a sub in it…
TippLite
Someone broke into our '91 metro and ripped apart the dash to steal a broken tape deck with a tape jammed in it.
IMoveWithTheEleganceOfAnAfricanElephant
i had an alpine head unit with a pop off face. my buddy borrowed my car (91 cavalier) to see Spider-man. The first Tobey McGuire one. He didn't take the face off and someone broke into it and ganked my shit
prawnklng
People in collge used to just casually show off their face plates at recess even tho they didn’t own cars.
KillingTlme
It depends on where you parked it. Doesn't take much for a bored 14-20 year old to break into your car.
DrPhillipMahmoufWifarts
Yeah.. no one ever felt tempted to knab the collection of Ska CDs from the visorganizor on my '91 S-10...
Kenbamazingbutprobablywontbe
My 1980 pontiac got mildly fucked up when someone broke into it and stole all my burned cds.
spittytrinkles
Club Steering Lock on a '79 Mitsubishi Galant that had an ignition that could be started with a coin.
ChickenBaconAndCheese
I spent a five hour car ride in my 89 Chevy without a faceplate on because I thought I left it in my dorm. Wouldn’t you know it was in my damn backpack the whole time.
dbbbbs
At least you got to use it on the way back.
ImpossibleAgenda
Pull the whole thing out like a real man.
METROlD
Back in the day all my car stereos were worth more than my car.
dbbbbs
I had my old Mitsubishi broken into to get my stereo. Fortunately I was walking up to it when it happened and fortunately they ran away rather than do something else.
ihaveabunny
I had 2 face plates stolen out of my 94 Honda Passport.
anonymous
I used to drive a beat up Dodge Neon and they stole my stereo anyway despite it having no faceplate.
Poopoopeepeevagina
But what if they want to steel my sweet sweet cd collection!?
conniecpu
In a way it sucks that you basically can't replace the stereo in modern cars, but making impossible to just pop them out has probably helped a lot with car break-ins
Puppersforall
I had this stereo in my old Peugeot, never bothered taking the face plate off, one day someone broke into my car, took about 83p in loose change from the ashtray and a half empty pack of mints and didn't even bother with the stereo.
ArcaneM37
In a highschool parking lot? Everyone is at risk
SilverNicktail
Smashing a window and grabbing a nice stereo was absolutely a thing, back when it was possible to actually customise your car and dashboards weren't gigantic proprietary touchscreens.
Badprenup
You can still customize cars. I had a car with a "gigantic proprietary touchscreen", which due to some kind of defect was constantly contacting the sensor beneath the screen making it useless. Was $800 to replace, so instead I went to Best Buy and they put in a new stereo for about $240, including installation costs and a Bluetooth mic addon since the old one was hardwired to the broken stereo
SilverNicktail
Where did they fit it? Did you still have DIN slots underneath the touchscreen?
SenorFrownz
Yes
Talbotous
Bitch the one day I left this in my 96 Honda it got jacked. That new faceplate came with me everywhere.
IdiotSavantTinker
Someone took the stereo out of my crappy old Mitsubishi truck... sometimes the shiny thing calls attention to itself. 😔
lysani
Someone stole the cup holder with less than a dollar in change in it from my brothers car. People are just shitty sometimes.
ilwrath
Yeah, for sure. Some stole a shittier stereo than that out of my buddy's 86 Escort.
WarNvrChanges
yeah but she probably shouldn't have stereo inside her
Dalael
Could have been worse. They could gave broke in and left a nickleback cd.
IdiotSavantTinker
Where were you 20 years ago? If I'd thought to leave a nickelback CD in the stereo, they might have left it.
Eomund521
Mate. Someone broke into my 72 datsun that literally has nothing in it. Crackheads don't care. You were better being safe
OverpricedCrayon
Funny someone broke into my ‘87 Z when it had nothing. Got a new stereo and took that faceplate with me every time I left the car. But some did steal a binder full of CDs.
LariCheltsy
I remember that post. How's the Datsy now?
Eomund521
Daily driven. I get a week off after Christmas so I will replace the window then with poly carbonate. That way they break their hands before the glass. Lotta little things and a few big things to do this vacation
LariCheltsy
It still blows my mind they broke the triangle. That's always my quick and easy break-in when I lock myself out of the Valiant. I really can't see breaking it being any quicker than slipping a coat hanger in. Guess they didn't have a coat hanger. But same here got the slant 6 torn down rebuilding and paintin it this winter
Eomund521
Here's the biggest pisser. Had the crackhead looked. The driver side door was unlocked. It was 100% unnecessary had they had any facility to think