KingofSadness
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Mar 26, 2020 2:48 PM
KingofSadness
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linguistfromhell
Reminds me of "For The Man Who Has Everything" by Alan Moore. One of the best Superman stories ever written.
BakingMaybes
Yeah, Batman was in that one too... and got submerged in a dream where he was happy. This kinda feels like a knock-off
4ngryn3rd
Anybody else read that in Kevin Conroy's voice?
Murrman1975
Started in Dietrich Bader but switched to Kevin Conroy when Robin dropped in. Weird.
Wulph421
ITS YOU AGAIN GODDAMN IT. Should have checked username...
KingofSadness
Leonardo1975
You're profile was created on April 27th. Which is my birthday! I kid you not.
KingofSadness
MarsVtron
Anyone else notice the costume change mid page when he realized what was up?
Raichu900
Yeah I. Liked that. It was a change in costume from the brave bold style to the current one. Also the idea that his style got darker.
MarsVtron
Also the shadow of the Batman looming over Bruce in the final pane.
snooch2thegouch
theuberzer
Applepotamus
with just a tablespoon of
YukonFox
Read the Batman quotes with Adam West's voice in my head
FitzFarseer
Same. It just makes sense to me
DukeDarkwood
Mine was Kevin Conroy. Although I went back up and tried yours, and it works too.
DukeDarkwood
Wait, now I did it again, and it's Adam West in the dream and Kevin Conroy at the end. And it's even better!
PinkSheep4Lyfe
What am I supposed to do with all these FEELS
winterbourne
"Happy Bats" wears campy 60s bat uniform.
winterbourne
And it darkens as he returns.
SmokyDoggg
BorrowAFeeling
...that mullet...
goflyblind
Sayagain
Treat yo self!!!
chiefcherokee
cptcr
What a moody bitch
Diablito69
Ah, life.
Mrwagonmaker
If you notice, in #3 his outfit slowly changes darker and back to his original outfit the more he realizes this isn't real.
GreenNotTheColor
Na na na na na na na sadman
Blokewithabrew
All around me are familiar faces.
Applepotamus
AtsaMattaForMe
TheBigBadBonerBiter
"All around me are familiar faces..."
AnimalRescueGuy
Martha. *sob* Her name was Martha.
Applepotamus
KeepTheEarthBelowMyFeet
Hello darkness my old friend
orbat
I think I saw the exact moment a part of his soul withered away and died.
jukkz
No one knows what it's like, to be the baaaatman
FartmanMD
I mean neither does he really
Mobileuserwholikestoberandom
To be the saaadman. Behind white eyes.
LookingForWorkInColorado
Also, noone knows what its like to be a dustbin, in Shaftsbury, with hooligans.....
aPokal
To beee the venge-ance. Behind the mask.
PleaseLeave
Wow is there going to be a Daredevil and Witcher crossover?
lupinic
Underrated comment. +1
YouTubeRed
ColossalDM
Oh my god, Bruce are you crying? NO ITS JUST RAINING.
orbat
Is there a longer version somewhere?
YouTubeRed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0d7X_4YtNE
orbat
Thanks!
EDDDDDDD
Dead parents!
RapturetheCity
What issue was this from? I remember this being an episode not a comic.
SigneowTheCat
No one knows what it's like... to be the Batman, to be the sad man, behind blue eyes.
Jaron58
Damn Bruce is a hurt individual
KingofSadness
Mokisan
Any guy that dresses like a bat clearly has... Issues
NotReallyADoctor
NotReallyADoctor
SemperCallide
An honest contender for best Batman film, IMHO
DingusMajoris
Amazing movie. That moment in particular always haunts me.
trogdor9000
What movie is this?
NotReallyADoctor
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
Captjustice
Jeeze Batman, Just get over it already.
SpiralNihilism
Bullshit.
WraithTDK
What the...they DID this idea. He realized it was wrong because he couldn't READ.
StressTestOICU812
Yeah, the animated series version was better. Guess that version wasn't melodramatic enough (rolleyes) --> spoiler coming -->
StressTestOICU812
--> and it was WAY more awesome in the series where he wakes up by jumping off that building. The Hatter tries to stop him saying -->>
StressTestOICU812
"What if you're wrong?!" to which Batman replies "then I'll see you in your nightmares!!" The fact I remember it years later says a lot.
psycho3d
hashbaz
i excpect him to stop and yell "MY PARENTS ARE DEEEAAAAD!!"
ImNotReallyADoctor
Good guy Mad Hatter
jimplaysgames10
Violation isn't okay regardless of intention.
madhatter1342
I try.
OmegaKane689
He is the same as quite a few of the Bats gallery. With the proper psychological help and fixing what made them bad they could be fine.
bixby66
Yeah Mad Hatter's drugged, killed, and raped too many people for that. Even did a bit of human trafficking. There's been many 'Alices'
ThisOldCPU
Yo! When did Hatter rape anyone? I don't even wanna google that shit.
myr14d
It really depends. Comic characters have so many writers and versions you pretty much have to take each interpretation on its own.
bixby66
Yeah but mind control and kidnapping women and girls has been his MO forever.
YurgenGrimwood
So what, batman will never put it behind him and find happiness? That's a pretty depressing message, especially to actual orphans.
qtRaven
He's afraid to let himself truly be happy. It's why he can't wield a green lantern ring.
StanielRonathan
That's been a core part of Batman for decades though- he is a broken shell of a person who refuses to cope and move on from his loss
StanielRonathan
It's why the supporting Batman Family characters, and his relationship with Superman, are so important; they help protect Bruce from himself
Corona688
Doesn't want to. He had it and put it away
miados
never? we can't know. Currently is what matters more in that situation.
vowofloudness
"Thats how I knew it wasn't my life. I could never truly be that happy."
miados
as someone who tried to game over what you think now can change. I'm still depressed but I barely think about game over anymore.
butterflybuttler221
I agree and on top of it being unhealthy humans aren't built to sustain grief like that long term so its unlikely and setting up standards 1
butterflybuttler221
Of bereavement that cant be matched which may make some people feel like they aren't doing enough to remember/honor loved ones. 2/2
orbat
Everything doesn't always have to be smoothed over and happy, though? I think it's good that even comic books can evoke more complex
orbat
feelings than just "yay, happy"
YurgenGrimwood
That's not my point. He doesn't have to be happy at the moment. Saying he could never be happy is a bit much edge.
orbat
I dunno. The whole brooding edgelord thing is pretty Batman. Kind of like Angel of Buffy fame but with slightly less brooding.
SilentZed
I would say this is depressing, and it certainly is, but we're finding more and more that we're not built for long term sustained (1
flawlesssoul
"Because without the bitter, baby, the sweet ain't as sweet."
Rogahar
I don't have depression afaik, and I cannot remember ever thinking 'happy' is my standard state of being. Just 'alive' or 'neutral' is my >
Rogahar
> default setting. Happiness, like sorrow and anger and joy, comes and goes.
ausSn
What about long term sustained sadness
trueunpopularopinions
It seems to be self-sustaining, no efforts needed at all
Speedmetal05
That's just depression...
Kbantar
No, it's not. Most depression is long periods of no feeling, essentially being dead inside with some sadness and specks of happiness.
drunkpanther
Happiness is the pursuit of happiness. Happy itself doesn’t really exist, but the ghost of it gives us purpose which most find reassuring
KatieIsALady
Fuck, I don't.
SidneyHarbor
Actually, happiness is a warm gun.
stealthyrpg24
Happiness is a reward hormone, its unatural to assume u can feel it 24/7. Now being content, thats a more realistic goal.
GoldenRamoth
I dunno. I guess I equate happiness with satisfaction of a job well done. That's my contentment.
drunkpanther
That’s a very identified purpose. A very commendable one, too.
SilentZed
happiness and the constant seeking of that kind of happiness can have some pretty unpleasant effects in the long run.
SidneyHarbor
Related: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/happiness-in-world/201304/how-reset-your-happiness-set-point
zhaulus
True, would also say it is untreated PTSD, Alfred did his best, but he is not a trained Psychiatric professional.
actualseal
We are built for long-term depression and pain, tho! Such is life
chandlerfromfriends
Like what?
HoodsBallsOnASkillet
We also arent byilt for the kinda long term depression that Batman deals with. And he clearly shuts himself off from even bits of joy
myUsernameWasAlreadyTakenAndIHaveAcceptedMyFate
I think it is possible to be content for longer periods of time. The problem arises when people lie to themselves in order to feel happy
myUsernameWasAlreadyTakenAndIHaveAcceptedMyFate
Repression is not sustainable. We have feelings for a reason, and ignoring all but one of them is unhealthy
OphelianAshe
That's why the first matrix failed
kahlzun
Entire crops were lost
OphelianAshe
Vis a vis. Concordantly.
kahlzun
Ergo, ipso facto
DigiT00l
That is why I just wish to be content
eonn44
same
TacTheScribbler
"It's wanting that gets so many folks in trouble." -John Marston.
ISmellDeadPeople
I'd like to understand better the exact meaning of some of these terms. Certainly, we can't experience consistent dopaminergic rewards/highs
ISmellDeadPeople
but fulfillment or contentment or "flow" states seem to be more sustainable.
CloakedFigure
True. And negative emotions in healthy doses help build our brains.
myUsernameWasAlreadyTakenAndIHaveAcceptedMyFate
Failing is inherently unpleasant, but it's also essential for learning
brobot
And in unhealthy doses...you get Batman.
SonderingStrike
God my brain must be super healthy now, then
quadraspaz1
Are you Batman?
SoberIrishman1
Odd, because I recall this being an actual episode of BTAS... why make a comic retelling?
SwaghettiYologneseWithMemeballs
This one takes liberties too because Robin wasn't in the episode and Nightwing wasn't even a thing yet.
Corona688
Who's to say its not the reverse? Recycling isn't just for paper and plastic.
kgbofficer
The episode aired on TV in 1992, the comic was published in 2001.
StressTestOICU812
Thanks, that's the info I was looking for. Didn't quite look like a vintage comic, though it was drawn to mimic one.
kgbofficer
https://batman.fandom.com/wiki/Perchance_to_Dream<">_Dream">https://batman.fandom.com/wiki/Perchance_to_Dream</a> ; https://batman.fandom.com/wiki/Batman_Gotham_Adventures_37
Ac1dBurn72
Yeah. BTAS had a number of comic books. I had the Man-Bat one as a kid. Really hot me into comics at a young age.
TheCrazySucculentLady
So are you saying you're unattractive now or...?
Ac1dBurn72
I mean. I dunno about unattractive. I kinda look like Kratos at the moment. Hahah
TheCrazySucculentLady
Lol
Ac1dBurn72
I've been working out a lot. And realize I was balding so got rid of the hair. Lol
GasBandit
"I WAS WILLING TO GIVE YOU ANY LIFE YOU WANTED JUST TO KEEP YOU OUT OF MINE!" still gives me goosebumps to this day
StressTestOICU812
That was a better ending in the animated series. The Hatter wasn't just doing it out of the goodness of his heart.
SoberIrishman1
It always bothered me in BTAS that supposedly Hatter got Batman in his rig, but didn't remove his cowl to see his identity... what a madlad
StressTestOICU812
My head-canon on that is that some of the villains couldn't care less about his "real" identity: To them, Batman IS the real identity, -->
StressTestOICU812
--> the "true self". Not the ordinary man behind the mask, who is just the pale shadow of the real persona. If that makes sense!
ColossalDM
Just in case anyone wants to watch it!
ColossalDM
The BTAS version was a lot more emotionally charged. Season 1 Episode 26, “Perchance to Dream.” Here is the full scene. 1/2
ColossalDM
https://youtu.be/X9Gv34FTPcE 2/2
creegro
I also recall this as a cartoon episode during the 90s, but he got out of it cause he couldn't read books and caught on to it being a dream.
brantosaurus85
I always remembered that. And have actually used it to lucid dream.
MinisterKai
I don't get this, because I actually can read in dreams
ArdentSlacker
I can manage one line okay. But more than that and it changes if I re-read it.
Orhoz
For a younger crowd that didnt watch the show?
LegendMasterX
young people dont really read comics anymore
CptNesquick
Ok boomer
Hybris51129
As Marvel is currently failing to learn this very important fact.
LegendMasterX
They keep introducing teen/woke super heroes and killing off their old ones to try and attract young people, but it never works
GrapeSour
Yea Jesus Christ what the fuck is internet gas
Hybris51129
After hearing that I spent 3 hours laying in bed trying to rewrite all of the characters. I feel I managed to improve 4 out of the 5.
scruffenheim