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A detachment of F-35B Lightning II's from Fighter Attack Squadron 121 (VMFA-121) arrived aboard the USS Wasp, marking the first time the jet has deployed aboard a Navy ship and with a Marine Expeditionary Unit in the Indo-Asian-Pacific
https://streamable.com/yv6o6
VigorousButtstuff
Cool. Did it kill its pilot like the rest of the F35s have been?
thelastcoolbrandon
Trillion dollars later...
ataradov
Did it stop killing the pilots?
bradmo
Damn, and I thought I was good at parallel parking.
GentryMarine
Ayee. My old squadron.
SoftcoreFavorites
Anyone want to make a joke about how this overpriced piece of shit is an overpriced piece of shit?
sebastVillain
That'll be 10 billion $,please.
ithinkitsfunny
I helped making the engines!
Isorikk
Hate this mission on GTAV
danishjuggler21
It looks like a plane, but it clearly identifies as an attack helicopter
Kazpur81S
Jumpy McJump Jet
TurdSlynger
Left the hood open.
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ComradeJenkens
It's a cover for the VTOL fan. It opens up to allow air to get sucked through and accelerated downwards.
Maldraek
Goddamn. That thing looked like it was being lowered from a crane.
LightningFIshLivesInTheDeep
So I've read that it's expected to fly for 55 years? Would there still be piloted aircraft then? We have drones now; stealth ones too.
Acid0
I have a question: Which is better looking, F-22 or F-35A/B?
saladsaladsalad
I like the f-22 look, it has a 'sleeker' design. Plus those sqare nozzles. Apples to oranges though, JSF has many more roles to fill.
Greeneyeddevil
Thats just fucking coooooool as shit
kalenen
Fake n gay
Daywalker27
occamsrezr
Fun fact, the f-35 can only land on 2 out of the 8 or so landing spots on the ship or else it melts the deck
KarlMoebius
You can tell where they replaced the deck with new by the deeper black
skyhook
I mean, you can't fuel the damn thing in direct sunlight, but sure, this is cool.
Maximusthalos
Wait what? wuuuuuuuuuuuut?!
skyhook
https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-f-35-cant-run-on-warm-gas-from-a-fuel-truck-that-sa-1668120726
emiliemk
Beautiful
copingcabana
That's ridiculous! We have ships based on people's race and religion now!?!
Dreigiau
I'm... confused. Also, how is this comment older than the post?
LongoloidFartExplosion
White Anglo-Saxon Protestant.
sayoung0311
Former marine infantry, did a deployment on the wasp. That thing is... pretty ancient.
eastbayrae
You guys get the old shit, you know how this works.
sayoung0311
Vintage
Joshua21B
Well did you expect the DOD to give the Marines a nice new ship just so they could draw all over the walls with crayons?
sayoung0311
That’s a mischaracterization. We draw cocks in permanent marker. Crayons are for eating.
Youts
Hey! I work in the facility where this fifth generation fighter is assembled
dafawkudoin
Hey if you’re not full of shit you probably just broke a security protocol
Youts
Negative. I didn't say I worked for lockheed Martin Fort Worth, Texas Aeronautics facilities department in building number 005. Well shit...
ForTheLoveOfTheName
What up from a fellow Building 5er. Nice proximity to the 50' Aisle
Youts
Should. . . Should. We get lunch someday and like. Hangout? Do people do that?
Monka42
Hey! I just watched a gif of that fighter
Mishn0
Note to viewers: Stop listening to paid gadflys like Pierre Sprey who never really designed an aircraft and is full of shit. The F-35 is a
Habbadax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtZNBkKdO5U Related: This is a great video series on the F-35. It's a terrifying machine
Mishn0
damn good jet. Go look at the performance reviews from its Red Flag operations. It kills F-15s and goes on to take out latest gen SAMs
Mishn0
(simulated) in the same mission. No previous aircraft could ever think of doing that.
TheAssassinArtemisEntreri
Russia's new Vertical Landing prototype: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FavorableNextHarrier-size_restricted.gif
12rt2345g342563
Funnily enough technology in the F-35B was in part based on the Yak 141. Lockmart was buying tech from Russia after the fall of the USSR.
TheyCallMeElTopo
Favourable Next Harrier? Gfycat is secretly run by armchair admirals, methinks.
bryanew710
I really hope this plane turns out to be worth the money we paid for it. Doubt it ever could be.
EricFromAccounts
I mean that's the thing about deterrence: if you don't see it doing any actual fighting, it could still be doing its job.
rando84
I think the comment is more about wasteful procurement policies. The same plane or better could've been developed for less money.
bryanew710
(Which is hilarious because the plane it was built to counter was built to counter a prototype bomber the USAF built that never served)
bryanew710
Ironically, you could say the EXACT thing about the F-15. It was built to counter a threat that never actually existed.
Maximusthalos
Yes but the F35 is built in multiple states to the point where the parts have to be custom fitted when they get to assembly.
Maximusthalos
That and last time i checked a lot of pilots don't want to fly it. Some were getting sick because of the glue they were using.
EricFromAccounts
Eh - every conference I've been to, the air force chiefs said they loved the F35 and that David Axe's condemnation article was v inaccurate.
bryanew710
Ahhh...I was specifically talking about the F-15 being built to counter the MiG-25 Foxbat, which we THOUGHT was fast and agile. It wasn't.
Blastergv9
Hey! I wrote and tested controls code for this aircraft!
LeBeefCake
I feel like that's not something you're supposed to share...
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wollawollawolla
People who test code aren't making a lot of money
ChrisMendez123
Developers test their code....
wollawollawolla
Yah but they also don't earn a shit tonne
OliverClothesoff70
I designed linear actuator control systems to glue the fuselage halves together. Yay nerds!
NotAMultiTool
Are there any bugs in your code?
Lowestscoreever
Let me guess - it's a million lines of spaghetti codes with no comments. Let's how you wills stay employed for the next 20 years.
Blastergv9
Nah, everything was tested and documented relentlessly
Colt85
Noice!
TheBlueMuppet
How often did you go "whoops, that killed me." In testing?
ObliqueRay
I don't think I would ever code aircraft software. I've seen some bugs I've created in the past. I would kill so many people...
Youts
Hello fellow LM person
saladsaladsalad
Design here, nice to see an Imgur post I can relate to.
BobKelsoDoesntGiveACrap
ghettosoak
That is dope as fuck!
Protocol73
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Wolokos
Can you of giving me more information? I is not of russian
SlydFox
Of Polan?
12rt2345g342563
Hell the Chinese already stole multiple databases of information on the F-35.
bluehammer
Rush B.
davedoesnotgetit
Suka
Ididthisforthelol
DO A STORY PLEASE
Tarmaccian
I have a friend who tells me things. I will try to get something I can post.
Blastergv9
Not much to tell. the actual job was very boring, just testing code on a big simulator. I did get to do a field trip one day to the (1)
Blastergv9
2 test stands. Got to watch them fire the chicken gun into a giant rolls royce engine the size of a house
Ididthisforthelol
That's story worthy.
Blastergv9
Similar to this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nAc7wab-l4
Thund3rbolt
Very cool ...so is the landing all computer controlled and fully automatic?
haveblue2
Whole plane is computer controlled. Once slow enough the throttle becomes the forward/backward (yes!) control. Stick forward/aft is up/down.
saladsaladsalad
Vertical landing is computerized. With four different thrust points to control plus wind, it's a much easier job that way.
Blastergv9
Not sure, didn't work on any of that. I think the pilot may have a couple options. I wanna say it's mostly manual
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Blastergv9
That's not the cockpit, its called the lift fan. It provides the vertical thrust near the front of the plane
zipykido
That's not the cockpit, it's a propeller compartment to assist in vertical stability.
snake134
That's not the cockpit that is open. That is where the the hatch that allows for the VTOL engine be utilized.
Chrizzlephaa
F35 isn't vtol, it's stovl. That hatch houses a massive fan that allows vertical landings..when it works!
Ididthisforthelol
Love the F35. It's a dope aircraft.
MaverickGoose2020
I just hate when they want to make noise. Silent as fuck when they want but when hovering, oh jebus.
CapitalNick
My heart will always be with the Harrier.
EmberFiretail
If the F35B is anything, it's leaps and bounds better then the harrier.
rando84
Its insane cost overruns cancel out many of its benefits. Buying 3x as many single purpose aircraft would be better than having extremely1/2
rando84
expensive jack of all trades aircraft that isn't the best at anything 2/2
ingen2
That would help jack shit for the Allies of the US who lack the budgets and manpower for maintaining several types of aircraft.
rando84
Maintaining several types of aircraft is cheaper than maintaining the F-35. Many US allies have turned down the F-35 for that reason.
WhereDeyAtDoe
The whole pointis having a stealth jet, the fact that even 30+ year old jets can fuck it up doesn‘t really matter then to the military
causality
One itty bitty innovation in radar technology and its stealth is instantly worthless though.
WhereDeyAtDoe
Probably, that didn‘t come around since the Sr-71 tho. It could be a few decades, or a few years
causality
SR-71 wasn't even stealthy when it came out, though. The engine plumes always had a massive radar return.
causality
Also, the F-35 first flew twelve years ago and the design vehicle 18 years ago. They've already HAD two decades.
FUNKAPUS
It has a few ...issues.
TablesBobbyTables
All new tech has issues. IMO it would be more worrying if there weren't any.
AlmightyyCres
I want to know the issues plz
TheS4ndm4n
It's worse than the aircraft it's supposed to replace. But 20 times as expensive.
12rt2345g342563
The program is an absolute shitshow. Whether it's actually worse or not remains to be seen.
Shwinky
That's a bit of a misconception. It's not meant to outright replace the F-22. It's meant as a multirole rather than a pure fighter.
WhereDeyAtDoe
And the f18 is a multirole too which beat the f35 in combat tests
Cheomesh
No
Hourlynulllimitreached
How is it worse? Its faster, more manuverable and carries more ordinance than the A10.
qtRaven
No Brrrrrrrrrtttt.
WhereDeyAtDoe
Replaces multiroles lile f18-> sucks so much in air combat it loses to f18s. The only good thing about it is stealth
TheS4ndm4n
VMFA-121never flew A10. This replaces the F/A 18. And for NATO allies, the F16.
WreckGar
Time will tell ultimately but the problem right now is its a giant compromise. Its not just replacing the A10 but also the F15, F16,
HelloToe
AKA the feature that never should have been forced into the F-35, which fucked up the rest of the design and development program.
Elitex62
The F-35 is the reason why we need to kill the Military Industrial Complex
ThatGuyWhoIsAlwaysThatGuy
Why do most things well when you can do everything poorly and for 10x the cost?!
Paragon19
Um, VTOL was a pretty integral design requirement from the very beginning of the JSF Contest.
HelloToe
No, look earlier in the history. The JSF program was created by a shotgun wedding of the Marines CALF program and USAF & Navy's JAST program
HelloToe
Those two programs should never have been merged, it forced too many bad design compromises. It's the #1 reason it's been such a clusterfuck
JackieTreehornProductions
The very idiotic dream (&promise) of having a single platform serve each branch which had very different mission parameters and specs.
HelloToe
Hey guys, let's adapt this tank for Air Force use! :D
allegedlynerdy
And made it an overpriced underpowered piece of shit
Habbadax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtZNBkKdO5U Nah, it's pretty fucking rock solid
Fluidflows
Overpriced? Not really.
allegedlynerdy
It is based on its capabilities. The current Gen fighter shouldn't be that shitty at a higher cost than the European equivalent.
Fluidflows
What European equivalent is there?
snipekill1997
In what aspects is it underpowered?
Fluidflows
The navy version is said to be sluggish compared to other carrier based aircraft
snipekill1997
The F-35c's max load TWR is ~.61. The F/A-18E/F's is ~.66 with similar fuel loads. They also have the same (listed) max speed of mach 1.6
allegedlynerdy
Speed ≠ sluggishness. It's unmanuvarable, plain and simple.
TheyCallMeElTopo
Man, it's that or build full-sized carriers for the USMC. The STOVL's been a pain in the arse, but it's also supposed to give the Corps
HelloToe
They could've stuck with the original plan & gave the Marines a dedicated VTOL. Would've been more effective, & probably cheaper in the end.
HelloToe
Cost analysis: https://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/MG1225.html
TheyCallMeElTopo
their own organic air support instead of having to have Nimitzes at their beck and call. As an air combatant, it's pretty shit, especially
TheyCallMeElTopo
for the price tag, but as a harrier replacement it's the plane the USMC's been having wet dreams about. At the expense of everyone else.
MillenniumFalcon
You're not fucking kidding
KillerTofu615
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the vert system only for the USMC variation?
HelloToe
Yes, but even having it as option still required major compromises in the overall design of the aircraft, outside the STOVL feature itself.
FakeAnonymity
Details please
PrimePowerOn
Long -> short: Big fan in middle (big hole) makes airframe difficult to be sturdy enough. Plane gets heavy, overcomplicated, expensive.
PrimePowerOn
Also forced commonality between the variants for the different branches meant it was difficult to make it good at any one thing.
barnwolf
Ironically enough I've only heard this criticism from comments on imgur.
Fluidflows
Compared with being better at a few (2)
Fluidflows
There is criticism in the aerospace community. Pretty much the requirements caused it to be so-so at many things (1)
PrimePowerOn
I'll see if I can't find you the systems engineering case study...
PrimePowerOn
Apparently can't do it now because all my school files are on my work computer.