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Bizarkly
Those kids *really* have to work on their fascist salutes...
ignatiusreilly
I live in a 3rd world country, we have free healthcare. America is turning out to be quite a shitty place to live if you ask me.
johnwhoknowsnothing
I would do his wife
HeHeHebieJeebies
I would love to see what his monthly healthcare bill would be for a family that size with the top ten white / blue collar jobs.
whatthehecka
Honestly, MOST people in Washington probably feel this way.
LinearAlgebro
Lots of people get healthcare through work, it's called a benefit. They consider it part of their salary & an incentive for taking that job
mrmartini
swatz
I get health care at work? Most government workers get healthcare at work also.
RWebb00000
it isn't free. it is same as company sponsored, just better rates. -I have the same one.
fizzlebuns
Congress gets free healthcare.
drepark78
You should also count how many vacation days they get on top of that. How did they vote not to have term limits??
brillantmc
I blame the wife. Whoever can find this fucking guy sexually attractive is WAY more fucked up than we can possibly fathom.
normalnanner
Nice character attack man. Really compelling.
brillantmc
If anyone's character should be attacked, its the guy who received SS survivors benefits as a kid but now wants them gone for everyone else
Twtmoose
Hes a fucking asshat. Wait till those old coal miners who think theyll be getting it better start paying out the ass for nothing.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
Was his "daughter" taught the "proper way to wave" I think she was coached.
whycanttheygetgirlfriends
The family that made a photo-op washing already-clean dishes at a soup kitchen. Such sincerity. Such righteousness. Angels, all of them!
Sidewinds3000
The citizenry of the U.S. should receive free health care ,it's a no brainer..and work our way from that point backwards in terms of budget.
Zellacat
Why should others be forced to provide you with health care for free?Others shouldn't have to work for you 4 nothing.That isn't sustainable.
Stian83
You should leave his kids out of it.
thebeard1
His kids deserve his free healthcare, don't worry we pay for it too
feeltheice
I wonder how much my rates are gonna sky rocket under this plan. Already went from $70/mo to $790/month
Praetor1811
Not correct. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/health-care-for-members-of-congress/
Jrhoney
Well, instead of an Ad Hominem attack, lets address the issue that the ACA is broken and didn't really work.
llortamai
The 20 million people who got Healthcare would disagree. Those who's rates increased for less coverage would agree. No plan is perfect.
FlamingCabbage
Just...anyone else? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x97BxYCldDo
JasonD
This was actually their 2016 Christmas card.
doctorbees
That begs the question, how do you know?
GnomeAnn
"Corporate card" - name the movie quote
loomx9
Did you not get one?
peteywaz
Nope, I couldn't afford their premiums.
loomx9
Silly poor person, just buy more money.
doctorbees
Silly me!
Sandyundertones
He probably sent them a letter. You usually get one if you do.
aselleus
Read that the CEO of United Health earned 22 mil this year - he earned 60 mil last year. United Health had $66 BILLION dollars in profits.
SenatorHillaryIAmStillInTheRaceClinton
%95 of Americans have healthcare. The ACA showed that most of those who don't have it, don't want it. Millions paid fines to avoid it.
thehammster
http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/13/news/economy/obamacare-uninsured-gallup/ You can't just make up statistics
SenatorHillaryIAmStillInTheRaceClinton
This is why the ACA was such a train wreck of a failure. The financial model counted on young people purchasing it and no one did.
l677908
lol no
MoreLikeLawlSchool
Under the ACA they all have to purchase their healthcare through exchanges, unless they're covered by spouses.
Jasperman62
Seems there are two of us that knew this!
whycanttheygetgirlfriends
It's not true. There are other ways to avoid it. A few are on Medicare. Cornyn, Hirono, and Cohen are are state government plans.
whycanttheygetgirlfriends
Kildee is on a private pension plan. Several I named upthread are on private market exemption. And lots of them declined to answer.
DrMardini
Free healthcare from the government*
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
I like that online if you think forcing people to buy healthcare is wrong people say you hate the poor.
BattloidKouji
well, the poor should be covered under medicaid, like in my state, but not all states chose to expand it.
storebrandproductmascot
Nobody says that if you're in favor of real UHC over ACA. They only say that if you're in favor of a system that actually does fuck the poor
whyteraven74
Well how would you provide coverage for the poor then?
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
Through massive healthcare reforms first of all. Our healthcare costs are out of control.
BattloidKouji
Cost control isn't going to help the poor if they don't have any money to spend on it.
llortamai
Putting a businessman in charge isn't going to fix the problem. All about the profits.
Jasperman62
Actually they are required to,participate in the ACA ( like everyone else)
whycanttheygetgirlfriends
You're extremely naive. These guys know how to come out ahead. Ted Cruz has his whole family on his wife's generous Goldman Sachs plan.
whycanttheygetgirlfriends
Republican Ron Johnson put his family on his spouse's plan. So did Democrats Feinstein, Heitkamp, Kaine, and Warren.
whycanttheygetgirlfriends
Several Republicans took an exemption and went private market: LoBiondo, Massie, Mullin, Nugent, Pittenger, and Roby.
whycanttheygetgirlfriends
A handful are on Medicare and a few get insurance through private pension or state pension plan. And of course lots declined to answer.
whycanttheygetgirlfriends
Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/which-senators-and-representatives-have-signed-up-for-obamacare/646/
Jasperman62
Same option we all have...pick your spouse well!
pwsabre
Are they taking away our free health care? Mine sure as hell ISNT free, it's 3 times what it was 2 and a half years ago.
HelloMax
Shh that doesn't fit the narrative.
Beelsebooob
No, they're taking away your ability to get paid for healthcare if you have a preexisting condition, since premiums will go sky high.
BattloidKouji
ACA, while flawed, did slow the rate of increase for insurance costs. your insurance would cost more today if it hadn't been enacted.
Seanspeed
Nobody ever said it was gonna be free. No such thing, even in other countries where taxes are necessarily higher as a result.
MyLifeisaComplicatedDrinkingGame
Lawmakers try to frame it as "free" so it sounds unreasonable. Meanwhile right now we have "free" billion dollar aircraft carriers.
MyLifeisaComplicatedDrinkingGame
Insurance providers are driving up the price to make you want to repeal Obamacare. They're a for profit industry here. Don't forget that.
HelloMax
Ya and Obamacare drove down their profits, so they're adjusting the pricing accordingly.
Thornaxe
They're raising premiums because of republican created chaos in the system. Chaos means they can't manage risk, and they don't want to lose.
MyLifeisaComplicatedDrinkingGame
They're raising premiums to destroy faith in the system so they can remain a for-profit industry. They have no desire for univ. healthcare.
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MyLifeisaComplicatedDrinkingGame
"Fuck your ignorance" - The dude who's ignorant.
Perkunas687
With the ACA, healthcare costs have not gone up by the same rate and slowed down, if not almost plateaued. Hum. Ignorance.
Beelsebooob
They're doing a bad job if they are - premiums rose slower under Obamacare than they did under Bush's government.
Imanengineersowordsarehardvv
Get out of here with your facts and shit. No one wants to hear that
RxNoob
Thats old news and incorrect. For 2017 alone they rose 25%. Also premiums aren't all that matter when deductibles are up 1,000+%
TheBFH
Unless you can back that up, I call bullshit. These things aren't tracked month x month.
TheBFH
Kaiser foundation statistics: http://kaiserf.am/2cVqXF5
AmorphousPorpous
Sauce?
MyLifeisaComplicatedDrinkingGame
...current events?
derekjohn
Common sense?
GogglesGreek
You can't really prove a motive, plausible deniability, but their business makes more money if people pay more & get less coverage.
GogglesGreek
That being said, here's a few useful links to explain the background:
GogglesGreek
GOP refuse MC $$$: http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/10/15/448729327/states-that-declined-to-expand-medicaid-face-higher-costs
GogglesGreek
Insurers dropping out, harming ACA: http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/276366-insurers-warn-losses-from-obamacare-are-unsustainable
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graboids
That's exactly what they did, because just like government school loans, I guess they (Congress) assumed insurers/schools wouldn't take ↓
graboids
advantage of people. Wrong-o.
drepark78
Yup , he's one of the "bag" brothers. This one is "douche bag". Trump is "scum bag", and guess next one..
username000176
Bean bag?
whotheFUCKletthedogsout
Is the difference being younger and good looking?
JimNeverHasASecondCupOfCoffeeAtHome
Plastic bag?
WolfOdinson
Wrong. Ryan is a hypocritical Trump sperm-burper; he's not alone. I'd say Cruz is among the worst of 'em. Hey Ted, what would Trump have 1/2
WolfOdinson
2/2 said about your wife during the primaries if her name was Melania?
WolfOdinson
3/3 (sorry, sausage fingers hit 'enter' in '2/2') He would've said, "I've got two things to say about Melania.. 'nanny' or 'housekeeper'."
yesyoucancancan
Ball?
ithoughtitwasaboogerbutitsnot
And you are a shit bag.
TrijezniMujo
Lous Vuitton bag?
cbr600rr141
Cunt bag?
LetsTravelTogether
Ooooh! What's McConnell?
Killdreth
You know those bags some people have to wear on their abdomen to collect fecal matter?
PompatusOfLove
McOstomy?
Mimsey
Colostomy bag.
Beelsebooob
No - that's Steve Banon
LetsTravelTogether
Naw, he's just shit
FabulousBadass
You mean all of congress.
unit47
He authored the current bill that takes insurance away from 10 million to give a $200,000 tax break to the top. So no, not all of congress.
whyteraven74
There are members of Congress who are not exactly thrilled that the American public doesn't have what they have.
krammit89
Well if we were given what they get instead of obamacare, we'd have been better off. Fortunately they were exempt from paying for it.
GogglesGreek
The only one who is really still super stoked about Trumpcare/Ryancare/Wealthcare is Ryan.
LurkerOfDarkness
Wealthcare seems an accurate description of the proposal.
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jtriplej
I have a job and my benefit plan is definitely NOT free.
HerelnDuckburg
You seem to lack understanding of how that whole process works
Jasperman62
Congress is required to participate in the ACA like everyone else..doesn't anyone check this ?
Freakayou
Maybe you should keep up a bit better then. https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/121/text Congress and senate opted out
Jasperman62
Introduced..not law yet..its been referred to a committee and applies to any taxpayer..did you even read it?
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Jasperman62
False ..as of 2013-2014 see tom coburn Congress is required to participate in the ACA like everyone else..doesn't anyone check this ?
Jasperman62
http://housedocs.house.gov/energycommerce/ppacacon.pdf
Beelsebooob
Uhhh... they all have health insurance. In what way could they possibly be "exempt". The only bit you could be exempt from is the 1/
Beelsebooob
requirement to have health insurance... Which they do. 2/2
tetracycloide
They're not exempt though? The ACA requires congress and their staff to get HI from an exchange instead of using FEHB. 1/2
tetracycloide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act#Members_of_Congress 2/2
LetsTravelTogether
To be fair, this is every government employee. Albeit the Ryan's are the ones that want you to pay for it, they're kinda the worst
Jasperman62
Federal workers were but congress has to participate in the aca like everyone else.http://housedocs.house.gov/energycommerce/ppacacon.pdf
whycanttheygetgirlfriends
Some get around it, legally. Ted Cruz put his family on his wife's Goldman Sachs insurance, a very generous plan.
Jasperman62
So can anyone. If your spouses plan is better
tetracycloide
Government employees don't have free healthcare.
LetsTravelTogether
This is correct, depending on their plan, they pay a majority of your healthcare deductibles up to about 75% I believe
tetracycloide
Yeah FEHB is some stellar coverage for the out of paycheck costs.
Beelsebooob
No, only the republicans - the democrats brought you the ACA, and tried to bring you a government option to control prices.
Antelino
Yea because they use the aca too right? Oh wait no they don't.
Beelsebooob
What do you mean "use it too"? Yes - they are mandated to get health insurance, and they do.
Beelsebooob
It's clear the democrats aren't saying the "go fuck yourselves" bit - they're trying to bring healthcare to everyone.
Tk842
Really? So me paying 5600 dollars last year and now getting penalized 768 dollars on my taxes, when I used to pay about 3000 a year, 1)
namiasdf
I have not nearly taken as much as my family paid for taxes, into the Canadian healthcare system. I still understand its value in creating
namiasdf
an inclusive and fair society. One which promotes cooperation and a collective attitude towards our future. You couldn't pay me enough
Tk842
Sure seems like a fuck you to me. My wife and I only made 51000 combined last year.
Tk842
So over 10% of my income goes to health insurance now. The ACA is shit.
SuperSaiyanYamcha
Blame your insurance company and Republicans. They gutted cost-saving measures of the ACA like Medicare for all.