My stick insects have created newer, smaller stick insects and I'd like you to see them.

Feb 23, 2020 12:34 PM

Ausmerica

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This is a mother. Observe the blur that is her dancin' arms. I've five of them, all girls. Parapachymorpha zomproi, originally from Thailand, they're happy to be handled and they're interesting and easy to care for, eating brambles, hawthorne, rose and generally most things that stab you. They'll also eat certain oak and eucalyptus.

This is one on the day I first got them. I was tasked to care for them as they were unwanted, and I figured, aye, I'll give it a shot. They moult about six times before adulthood - this girl has about four moults left to do before maturity.

Zomproi are both sexual and non-sexual. My sticks are all girls, but they still lay eggs, mostly to simply jettison weight, but a low percentage of them are parthenogenetic, meaning that they will yield young, and they'll be genetic clones of their parent. Phasmid eggs have a little hatch (see the top-most egg) that pops open.

And here's a freshly hatched baby, a nymph. I put ~100 eggs aside to raise, and I've already got five nymphs. The gestation period is around 4-5 months.

Thank you, if you looked at my girls. I love them, I just want to gush about them a lot.

Edit, I was asked to see a moult, so here's a skin: https://i.imgur.com/ClQQ5LJ.jpg

They hang upside down to moult, so you must make sure there's vertical space for it to happen. They slide out of their old skin head first, and once they're out, they eat it. Rarely, like above, one will be left to pick out, but mostly, when you clean their house, you'll find some moulted leg bits at the bottom.

I love seeing people passionate about things I wouldn’t necessarily be. Love your babies!

6 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

What happens if you soak them in wood?

6 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

I like them too

6 years ago | Likes 66 Dislikes 1

I've seen them before. Thought they were neat looking. But knew ZERO about them. Thanks for sharing that knowledge. Very cool.

6 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

I used to have stick bois who also had kids but unfortunately they got out so I was finding them all over my room for some time.

6 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Have you branched out and raised other insects?

6 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I've been looking at other phasmids, like thorny leafs and some of the bigger species, but in the UK it's hard to give them eucalyptus.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

+1 for not including the moult photo in the original post.

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It's a very alien process, and I totally understand any aversions to that. Similarly, them hatching is super wild.

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Kinda want to see both now.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

From the picture those eggs look like pot seeds.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Would be pretty wild if it was both. If it gets buried it grows into pot, if left on the surface it grows into a stick insect

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Can you show us pictures of a moult? it there much that comes off? Very cool!

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's the whole skin. They hang upside down and wriggle out of it head first.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Wow- that's amazing! Thanks!!

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A nautical phasmid

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Do you name them? If so, how many are named "Hank", regardless of gender?

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's wild you said that, for so many years I've been naming any insect I've seen Hank. The spider in the corner? Hank. Total Hank.

6 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

"Hank" and "Dave" are my two "Default generic male names" for when I need to come up with something on the fly >.>

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I think I'm in love, I'm expecting updates on these beauties! See what you started?

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I'll probably post updates on /r/Phasmids, if you're interested! Thank you for loving my girls. I am stressed.

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

what's brown and sticky?

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Poo.

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

They're actually super adorable, I love this omg

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

What is their life span?

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

In the wild about 6-7 months, in captivity you can keep them for over a year.

6 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

That log had a child

6 years ago | Likes 758 Dislikes 1

Fear my stick

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

6 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

the log branched out

6 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Ok so that made me laugh out loud at work where I’m not supposed to have my phone ??‍♂️

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

6 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 2

mr seagull, stop it now

6 years ago | Likes 75 Dislikes 1

Didnt like it??

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Great, now I have that damn song stuck in my head again.

6 years ago | Likes 46 Dislikes 0

Rockin, rockin and rollin

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's almost as bad as the hamster dance...

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

That log made a stick

6 years ago | Likes 59 Dislikes 3

See Ivan? Stick always win

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My stick is better than baconnnnn

6 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

Mmmmmmmmmm

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Good job proud parent! This was beautiful and interesting and I learned a lot. might actually like stick bugs now. Keep it up bug daddy

6 years ago | Likes 615 Dislikes 2

Sky daddy

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Bug daddy.

6 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

Keep it up bug daddy. v

6 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

From a CriticalMother, no less. I keep insisting my stix are the cutest, but my cats won't listen.

6 years ago | Likes 102 Dislikes 3

Precious little undercover babies, congrats!

6 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

In the morning I check on my adult girls in their tank, and I count them, and always struggle to find at least one or two.

6 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

Looks like you’ll be sticking around for a while

6 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

They're girls, and they're bugs, so I call them lady bugs. Technically correct.

6 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

Just be careful. In most places, it's illegal to keep non-native stick insects because they can reproduce asexually and are very prolific

6 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

So- don't be dumb and let a single one escape since that's all it could really take to start an invasive population

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Fortunately I'm the UK, and this species is fine to keep. I know in the US they're stricter about non-native phasmids.

6 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

The eggs I don't attempt to raise are humanely disposed of.

6 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Stick insect egg meringue?

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

A 300 egg omelet

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Wow ! Very cool. Also fresh eggs for world’s tiniest omelet.

6 years ago | Likes 202 Dislikes 2

6 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

I’d accidentally put them in my@pepper mill

6 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 1

The eggs without young do have a little glob of goo in them. Delicious goo, perfect for any breakfast.

6 years ago | Likes 77 Dislikes 2

How do you know which have young and which don't?

6 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Please tell me you've actually tasted them

6 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 0

Single ones stick to your teeth. Lick a whole bundle and it tastes like a

6 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

mix with flour sugar and baking soda to make little tiny pancakes

6 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

Do you need and permits to handle a potentially invasive bug?

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I got these through a breeder (by proxy). In the UK depending on species you're probably fine. In the US non-native phasmids are forbidden.

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

In terms of invasiveness, given their origin in Thailand, neither the insects themselves or their eggs would survive a British winter.

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

At what age are they rideable?

6 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 1

When it becomes a branch insect

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Asking the important questions. I would go ahead and qualify that with "for a human" because my literalist son would say something sassy

6 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Like "a bug could ride them now"

6 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Fascinating! I've never seen stick bug eggs before. Thank you for sharing!

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

That's amazing!

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I love them so much! as an aspiring entomologist, where did you find out how to take care of them?

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It was a lot of frantic googling, reddit and the Phasmid Study Group who are fantastic at replying to questions. --->

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

There's no bespoke wiki page for them, and I've been meaning to put one together, but if you're interested please feel free to msg me.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Awesome will do!

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Is it some of all the eggs or all of some of the stick bugs eggs that are all parthegentic?

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It depends on the species. Some species are sexual, requiring a male and female couple to reproduce. This species will reproduce that way-->

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

But in the absence of a male the female will still lay parthenogenetic eggs. Most unfertilised eggs won't have a baby, but some will.--->

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

The eggs created by a female in the absence of a male will be a genetic clone of the mother.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

So if chickens were like that you could hatch maybe 1 out of a dozen and it would be a clone. Cool.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

AAA I LOVE THEM ALLL!!!!

6 years ago | Likes 96 Dislikes 1

Their only method of defense is to look like a stick, so they dance like they're in the wind too. Precious dancin'.

6 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 2

I know! They are precious lil doofus and I love them.

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We need dance video now for evidence

6 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I'll do my best for you tomorrow. In the mean time, may I interest you in this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Entomology/comments/eo7eru/wiggles/

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

This pleases zulthar

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ausmerica praises Yog-Sothoth, Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fh'tagn

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6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Tell me more! How do you know male vs female? Do they seem to have personalities? Do you have a favorite? Whats their habitat like?

6 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

Males are smoother and less patterned, they don't have ridges on their legs and they're skinnier. --->

6 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

They don't have unique personalities, and aside from defects, I can't tell them apart (except one had a bad moult and has a bandy leg). --->

6 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

Habitat is so easy it's wild. I just have a 100 litre clear storage box, with some mesh on the top and a band of elastic. --->

6 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

They're comfortable at around 20-30+ degrees C, and even a little lower at night is okay. They have some branches and brambles!

6 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 1

Thanks for the info :)

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