Yeah the last time I played DnD with a guy that clearly had more... conservative leanings, his character tried to use prestidigitation to scrub the black off my characters skin because 'his character had never seen that before'
They already live in fantasy and believe in imaginary magical creatures. This could work. As long as they don't DM. Otherwise, every cleric will have an orange turd as a sponsor.
I feel like there's a joke somewhere I can make about this and how Gary Gygax quoted a speech given to soldiers that were apprehensive about killing Native American women and children on the subject of Paladins.
It would really save a lot of souls. Community, cooperation, creativity, order, an outlet... if only MAGA wasn't so well-stocked with such toxic losers that probably bullied the d&d players in high school. Bridge burning begins early.
Look the worst thing I've been forced to do is 17 + 15. That's it. Meanwhile I once had my goliath barbarian who got enlarged from a potion, spell and, class feature, pick up the BBEG's castle and throw him and his belongings into the ocean.
I did not grow up using a calculator, so basic math is easy for me. Lately I have seen new players struggling with adding their d20 result to their attack bonus... Using 5-10 seconds to figure out shit like 13+5. It is shocking. Anywho, regarding your question. Some math. Much RPing. All fun!
If you can do addition and subtraction, you'll be fine. And I guess the knowledge that adding more dice results in a more normal distribution, I guess, which people might not be able to put into words but most people understand the logic of.
The few "brains" who spun the conspiracy theory maybe. And considering it all started on 4chan, they might just be taking the piss as the English say. The redcapped hordes of true believers are just sheep who happily buy into anything that confirms their biases no matter how outlandish.
Oh man, you need to talk to some of these Q freaks and I think you'll change your mind. I have a few former friends who fell down that rabbit hole, and they spent a tremendous amount of time coming up with the most batshit ideas based on just schizophrenic interpretations of shit in the media. It genuinely seemed like a collaborative storytelling environment that gave them a sense of community (these were lonely people, unsurprisingly) and creative outlet. It's awful shit, but not uncreative.
Just a friendly FYI. roll20 got hacked (account info leaked) a few years ago and. if you got an account older than that you might want to change the password and anywhere else you are using the same password.
Yes but that takes all the fun out of figuring out if casting "Haste" and "Jump" on a Frogfolk will cause him to break the sound barrier when he leaps across a canyon.
As a DM, I pay for the top tier of Roll20, one of my players paid for the entire bundle of books on D&D Beyond, and we use the Beyond20 extension in Chrome.
We have dynamic lighting (players can only see what their characters can see, and can't move through walls), really good character sheets, and the ability to just click on the character sheet to roll any attack, save, ability check, or other special ability.
It's really quite good compared to where it was even five years ago.
Well since you can use apps now you don't have to math, and I've played at a lot of tables where other people help with math for those who can't do it quickly.
Spectrum: It can go from almost no math at all (this tends to create a really chaotic mis-mash of a character that has no synergy), or very heavy in math (Which creates very specialized but interesting to play character.). The choice is yours. You can also forgo all the math and the system entirely and just free-form RP. I suggest that to people who don't want to look at the math behind TTRPGs.
It is... would be nice to think that only stupid people are bigots, but when it comes to empathy, some of the most backwards people I've met are also nerdy and super talented when it comes to mathematics and software development. Well known fact that there's still a lot of sexism and incel culture in STEM fields. Gamergate also was pretty emblematic of the larger issue; nerdy past times aren't as inviting to women and minorities as you'd hope... but it's getting better I think.
AD&D was for super nerds. It only lasted for like 2 years with the exception of some crazy holdouts (because they had nostalgia for the early Bauldurs Gate games.) Once 3.0 and especially 3.5 came out everyone played that because it was easier and had more options.
Depends, I've played some that is very math heavy and some where I don't touch dice a single time in a session. Depends on what type of a game you are playing.
Honestly, as a DM, I'll run a narrative session and just have people randomly roll some dice, then I'll pretend to make a note of it, all before just going along with the session as normal. Trick is that the dice don't matter, but the PCs don't know that, and they end up feeling like they have a different sort of control once they roll some dice, even though those rolls mean nothing,.and the only thing that counts currently is whatever you're roleplaying doing.
Make sure for at least one roll the PCs make, you roll 16 dice behind your screen. Tell them their character doesn't notice anything wrong. Tell them at the end of the session that their boot lace came undone an hour ago.
One of the very nice things (admittedly for some people) about 5e is how hand wavy a lot of the math is. I Outside of combat it's not usually if x then y, it's like alright total of 12? You get the job done with these consequences, or you didn't succeed but made progress, or a lot of different ways to make the rolls feel important, but never letting the rolls decide how much fun the players are having. Another big one is deciding how important the roll is after hearing the result.
AutoFox
Speaking as a D&D nerd, I'd welcome one to my game, but they'd have to get real cool about a lot of things real fast.
spiceass9000
No no. This is what video games are for. D&d is to complicated to just jump in to. Plus you need friends who also play
grandtheftjimbo
His hat goes from MAGA to MAGIC. Is nice. I like.
Reidsb
Yeah the last time I played DnD with a guy that clearly had more... conservative leanings, his character tried to use prestidigitation to scrub the black off my characters skin because 'his character had never seen that before'
Bollramm
I'd like to play some D&D 😪
Kingdomonsterdeath
They already live in fantasy and believe in imaginary magical creatures. This could work. As long as they don't DM. Otherwise, every cleric will have an orange turd as a sponsor.
Breadite
I feel like there's a joke somewhere I can make about this and how Gary Gygax quoted a speech given to soldiers that were apprehensive about killing Native American women and children on the subject of Paladins.
Malloon
...I mean, that's /part/ of the appeal to me.
SlightlyDodgy
Don't ruin D&D introducing dumb racist loud extroverted rednecks to it.
quzar
*Introducing*?
Nacon
Rather see them jump into an active volcano to save us the trouble of ever dealing them at all.
andexer
It's called "larping." Look it up. Or rather, have them look it up.
AFelineMassofEyes
I thought they played WH40K
DAKP
Sorry...my group as a "nice people only" rule.
mutingisforcowardsandsycophants
It would really save a lot of souls. Community, cooperation, creativity, order, an outlet... if only MAGA wasn't so well-stocked with such toxic losers that probably bullied the d&d players in high school. Bridge burning begins early.
NinjablazerZero
You say that as if it wouldn't be an outlet for them to explore all of their worst racist, pedophilic, power fantasies.
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
Isn't the goal of most D&D games to stop the forces of evil? Typical Republicans playing would likely try to become the BBEG and call it success.
BeingABotIsRad
Speak for yourself! I've definitely had evil characters I planned to hand over to the DM for his next BBEG.
darsfog
What?? Don't you know DnD is a gateway to the occult! Good Christians won't mess with that.
tibris
hey, as a life long D&D player, we have a limit on how much crazy bullshit we allow at the table!
manulofdoom
Remember when boomers told us we were the ones who can't distinguish fantasy from reality? Turns out, that was projection as well.
Thelrishlnquistion
jonReremy9669
Lostchild12
I think they also have a problem with cromprehesion.
PascalBP
Poor dm’s. Forced to deal with -1 INT and -5 WIS players
ilovebigmutts
Isn't d & d mostly math?
torcue
It's like Homework: The Game
Skywatcher16
depends. the way republican voters would probably wanna play is though.
baronluke
Look the worst thing I've been forced to do is 17 + 15. That's it.
Meanwhile I once had my goliath barbarian who got enlarged from a potion, spell and, class feature, pick up the BBEG's castle and throw him and his belongings into the ocean.
Flyboy12345
MTekKnight
It's just adding small numbers.
RaZorHamZteR
I did not grow up using a calculator, so basic math is easy for me. Lately I have seen new players struggling with adding their d20 result to their attack bonus... Using 5-10 seconds to figure out shit like 13+5. It is shocking. Anywho, regarding your question. Some math. Much RPing. All fun!
kitticuskattus
So are a lot of sports. You’d be surprised how many of these idiots can do sport statistics etc but learning anything is considered evil
Ruderali
Not if you play it wrong
CanadianCobraChicken
And shiny click-clacks that make the good brain juice!
NightfallEverdark
It nearly as much math as you'd think. The GM will need to know/do much more than you, the player, will.
mcodger
In a word: no
Bigblackdick69
Teamwork and math, not really maga qualities. But they do make a dnd for kids. Maybe start there?
Okebel
It's a lot of weird shit you make up. The math is there to see if it works or not. It can get pretty funny went it doesn't work.
parabolic000
If you can do addition and subtraction, you'll be fine. And I guess the knowledge that adding more dice results in a more normal distribution, I guess, which people might not be able to put into words but most people understand the logic of.
WilliamWeird
As a GM, I rarely do math.
alienstomper
No, pathfinder is modtly math. Dnd is mostly garbage.
Macmacfire
Garbage, maths, and making stuff up on the spot.
Alpharaccoonn
I read that as meth first time round...
ThatEyeGuy
Not the way I play it. You don't need math on a nat 1
PatrikLilja
Where is the math?
srsfaceI8C
Nah, not anymore. Older editions were pretty math heavy but 5e is fairly streamlined and not that hard to play.
METROlD
If you consider rolling dice and adding 2 digits or fewer while exploring complex territories and immersive storytelling math, sure.
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
it's mostly storytelling, you do occasionally have to add two numbers together but it's not that hard
LaneMartain
Shows what you know, math is flat.
Guttfunk
There are other rpg systems that lean more toward the story 😊
zylokun
Oh no no no.. it's mostly bad Puns!
VitaminJay
And so, so horny.
theskepticinme
The most basic of math. And imagination
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
I have a feeling that the average MAGA and QAnon cultist lacks both.
FlatPlutoSociety
Say what you will about QAnon psychos, they absolutely do not lack creativity.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
The few "brains" who spun the conspiracy theory maybe. And considering it all started on 4chan, they might just be taking the piss as the English say. The redcapped hordes of true believers are just sheep who happily buy into anything that confirms their biases no matter how outlandish.
FlatPlutoSociety
Oh man, you need to talk to some of these Q freaks and I think you'll change your mind. I have a few former friends who fell down that rabbit hole, and they spent a tremendous amount of time coming up with the most batshit ideas based on just schizophrenic interpretations of shit in the media. It genuinely seemed like a collaborative storytelling environment that gave them a sense of community (these were lonely people, unsurprisingly) and creative outlet. It's awful shit, but not uncreative.
Arinoth
That's the DM's problem not mine! /s On a serious note there's always free to use sites like roll20 that can handles most the math
TripleDane
Just a friendly FYI. roll20 got hacked (account info leaked) a few years ago and. if you got an account older than that you might want to change the password and anywhere else you are using the same password.
quzar
A 5e player I see!
Arinoth
Got back into it after 20 years
ragefacelaserfist
Yes but that takes all the fun out of figuring out if casting "Haste" and "Jump" on a Frogfolk will cause him to break the sound barrier when he leaps across a canyon.
thorinc
As a DM, I pay for the top tier of Roll20, one of my players paid for the entire bundle of books on D&D Beyond, and we use the Beyond20 extension in Chrome.
We have dynamic lighting (players can only see what their characters can see, and can't move through walls), really good character sheets, and the ability to just click on the character sheet to roll any attack, save, ability check, or other special ability.
It's really quite good compared to where it was even five years ago.
WilliamWeird
GM, pretending to roll behind the screen: "you do the thing"
stygiansojourn
It's shared storytelling. And math.
Junktrunkjunkie
They there good at shared story telling. They can't keep the story consistent but the group doesn't seem to care.
KrampusCopia
To be fair it's elementary school math so if you can't grasp it...
HistoricalContext
It's easy math, though. It's not even algebra.
PopeBruce
Well since you can use apps now you don't have to math, and I've played at a lot of tables where other people help with math for those who can't do it quickly.
ilovebigmutts
Never played, just what I gleaned from here. Thanks.
ScrapCode
It's a lot less math than it used to be. Now it's mostly can you add two single/double digit numbers together? (Normally all are less than 30)
stygiansojourn
Yup. No deriving the value of (n). You rolled a 13, and you get +3 to hit. Now it's 16. Good job. You hit the goblin.
ScarecrowSticks
Also type resistances, weaknesses, immunities, and math
dexteroexplosion
That's all just examples of the math.
5m4llP0X
Spectrum: It can go from almost no math at all (this tends to create a really chaotic mis-mash of a character that has no synergy), or very heavy in math (Which creates very specialized but interesting to play character.). The choice is yours. You can also forgo all the math and the system entirely and just free-form RP. I suggest that to people who don't want to look at the math behind TTRPGs.
Pummelallthethings
stygiansojourn
AnUpvote
Notthewatdabney
Well, that will exclude a few.
aloharamada
If you look at some of the posts on /r/dndhorrorstories, you'll realize it doesn't exclude quite as many bigots as you'd think.
Notthewatdabney
That makes me a bit sad.
aloharamada
It is... would be nice to think that only stupid people are bigots, but when it comes to empathy, some of the most backwards people I've met are also nerdy and super talented when it comes to mathematics and software development. Well known fact that there's still a lot of sexism and incel culture in STEM fields. Gamergate also was pretty emblematic of the larger issue; nerdy past times aren't as inviting to women and minorities as you'd hope... but it's getting better I think.
SteveMND
5m4llP0X
You caught us! We found a way to make math fun and engaging!
SteveMND
Wellllll, if you were familiar with THAC0, "fun" and "engaging" were a bit subjective.
5m4llP0X
THAC0 was nothing compared to the combat maneuver chart rules! That shit was obnoxiously confusing.
thorinc
+1 even though I found THAC0 pretty simple to use, but I have some natural mathamalogical talent.
KrampusCopia
AD&D was for super nerds. It only lasted for like 2 years with the exception of some crazy holdouts (because they had nostalgia for the early Bauldurs Gate games.) Once 3.0 and especially 3.5 came out everyone played that because it was easier and had more options.
BORGALOOGIE
Didney Worl
KrampusCopia
Casually
Depends, I've played some that is very math heavy and some where I don't touch dice a single time in a session. Depends on what type of a game you are playing.
lukelorian
If you're playing online a lot of the time the math is done for you so you don't even think about it lol
That said finding a good group irl is the best
GreyKnightTemplar666
Even narrative sessions should at least have a few rolls. Perception, deception, sleight of hand, intimidation checks at least
Casually
It was more of a thing where we got caught up in what we were doing and none of those situations arose.
GreyKnightTemplar666
That's fair. My only rule is as long as everybody is having fun.
Vallete
Depends on your DM, but IMO, using clickety clackity math rocks is always the right answer
Sageypie
Honestly, as a DM, I'll run a narrative session and just have people randomly roll some dice, then I'll pretend to make a note of it, all before just going along with the session as normal. Trick is that the dice don't matter, but the PCs don't know that, and they end up feeling like they have a different sort of control once they roll some dice, even though those rolls mean nothing,.and the only thing that counts currently is whatever you're roleplaying doing.
Richarmeleon
Make sure for at least one roll the PCs make, you roll 16 dice behind your screen. Tell them their character doesn't notice anything wrong. Tell them at the end of the session that their boot lace came undone an hour ago.
MiniYams
One of the very nice things (admittedly for some people) about 5e is how hand wavy a lot of the math is. I
Outside of combat it's not usually if x then y, it's like alright total of 12? You get the job done with these consequences, or you didn't succeed but made progress, or a lot of different ways to make the rolls feel important, but never letting the rolls decide how much fun the players are having. Another big one is deciding how important the roll is after hearing the result.