An alternative solution for MAGA people

Jan 12, 2024 9:32 PM

nobono76

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Speaking as a D&D nerd, I'd welcome one to my game, but they'd have to get real cool about a lot of things real fast.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No no. This is what video games are for. D&d is to complicated to just jump in to. Plus you need friends who also play

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

His hat goes from MAGA to MAGIC. Is nice. I like.

2 years ago | Likes 136 Dislikes 2

Yeah the last time I played DnD with a guy that clearly had more... conservative leanings, his character tried to use prestidigitation to scrub the black off my characters skin because 'his character had never seen that before'

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I'd like to play some D&D 😪

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They already live in fantasy and believe in imaginary magical creatures. This could work. As long as they don't DM. Otherwise, every cleric will have an orange turd as a sponsor.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I feel like there's a joke somewhere I can make about this and how Gary Gygax quoted a speech given to soldiers that were apprehensive about killing Native American women and children on the subject of Paladins.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

...I mean, that's /part/ of the appeal to me.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Don't ruin D&D introducing dumb racist loud extroverted rednecks to it.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

*Introducing*?

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Rather see them jump into an active volcano to save us the trouble of ever dealing them at all.

2 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 4

It's called "larping." Look it up. Or rather, have them look it up.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I thought they played WH40K

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Sorry...my group as a "nice people only" rule.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It would really save a lot of souls. Community, cooperation, creativity, order, an outlet... if only MAGA wasn't so well-stocked with such toxic losers that probably bullied the d&d players in high school. Bridge burning begins early.

2 years ago | Likes 56 Dislikes 2

You say that as if it wouldn't be an outlet for them to explore all of their worst racist, pedophilic, power fantasies.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Isn't the goal of most D&D games to stop the forces of evil? Typical Republicans playing would likely try to become the BBEG and call it success.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Speak for yourself! I've definitely had evil characters I planned to hand over to the DM for his next BBEG.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What?? Don't you know DnD is a gateway to the occult! Good Christians won't mess with that.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

hey, as a life long D&D player, we have a limit on how much crazy bullshit we allow at the table!

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Remember when boomers told us we were the ones who can't distinguish fantasy from reality? Turns out, that was projection as well.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

you’ll need to teach them to read first

2 years ago | Likes 57 Dislikes 7

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I think they also have a problem with cromprehesion.

2 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

Poor dm’s. Forced to deal with -1 INT and -5 WIS players

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Isn't d & d mostly math?

2 years ago | Likes 306 Dislikes 8

It's like Homework: The Game

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

depends. the way republican voters would probably wanna play is though.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Look the worst thing I've been forced to do is 17 + 15. That's it.
Meanwhile I once had my goliath barbarian who got enlarged from a potion, spell and, class feature, pick up the BBEG's castle and throw him and his belongings into the ocean.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

It's just adding small numbers.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I did not grow up using a calculator, so basic math is easy for me. Lately I have seen new players struggling with adding their d20 result to their attack bonus... Using 5-10 seconds to figure out shit like 13+5. It is shocking. Anywho, regarding your question. Some math. Much RPing. All fun!

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So are a lot of sports. You’d be surprised how many of these idiots can do sport statistics etc but learning anything is considered evil

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not if you play it wrong

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And shiny click-clacks that make the good brain juice!

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It nearly as much math as you'd think. The GM will need to know/do much more than you, the player, will.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

In a word: no

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Teamwork and math, not really maga qualities. But they do make a dnd for kids. Maybe start there?

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's a lot of weird shit you make up. The math is there to see if it works or not. It can get pretty funny went it doesn't work.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If you can do addition and subtraction, you'll be fine. And I guess the knowledge that adding more dice results in a more normal distribution, I guess, which people might not be able to put into words but most people understand the logic of.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

As a GM, I rarely do math.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No, pathfinder is modtly math. Dnd is mostly garbage.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Garbage, maths, and making stuff up on the spot.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I read that as meth first time round...

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not the way I play it. You don't need math on a nat 1

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Where is the math?

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Nah, not anymore. Older editions were pretty math heavy but 5e is fairly streamlined and not that hard to play.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If you consider rolling dice and adding 2 digits or fewer while exploring complex territories and immersive storytelling math, sure.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

it's mostly storytelling, you do occasionally have to add two numbers together but it's not that hard

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Shows what you know, math is flat.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

There are other rpg systems that lean more toward the story 😊

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Oh no no no.. it's mostly bad Puns!

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

And so, so horny.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The most basic of math. And imagination

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

I have a feeling that the average MAGA and QAnon cultist lacks both.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Say what you will about QAnon psychos, they absolutely do not lack creativity.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The few "brains" who spun the conspiracy theory maybe. And considering it all started on 4chan, they might just be taking the piss as the English say. The redcapped hordes of true believers are just sheep who happily buy into anything that confirms their biases no matter how outlandish.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Oh man, you need to talk to some of these Q freaks and I think you'll change your mind. I have a few former friends who fell down that rabbit hole, and they spent a tremendous amount of time coming up with the most batshit ideas based on just schizophrenic interpretations of shit in the media. It genuinely seemed like a collaborative storytelling environment that gave them a sense of community (these were lonely people, unsurprisingly) and creative outlet. It's awful shit, but not uncreative.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's the DM's problem not mine! /s On a serious note there's always free to use sites like roll20 that can handles most the math

2 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 1

Just a friendly FYI. roll20 got hacked (account info leaked) a few years ago and. if you got an account older than that you might want to change the password and anywhere else you are using the same password.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

A 5e player I see!

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Got back into it after 20 years

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yes but that takes all the fun out of figuring out if casting "Haste" and "Jump" on a Frogfolk will cause him to break the sound barrier when he leaps across a canyon.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As a DM, I pay for the top tier of Roll20, one of my players paid for the entire bundle of books on D&D Beyond, and we use the Beyond20 extension in Chrome.

We have dynamic lighting (players can only see what their characters can see, and can't move through walls), really good character sheets, and the ability to just click on the character sheet to roll any attack, save, ability check, or other special ability.

It's really quite good compared to where it was even five years ago.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

GM, pretending to roll behind the screen: "you do the thing"

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's shared storytelling. And math.

2 years ago | Likes 250 Dislikes 0

They there good at shared story telling. They can't keep the story consistent but the group doesn't seem to care.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

To be fair it's elementary school math so if you can't grasp it...

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

It's easy math, though. It's not even algebra.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Well since you can use apps now you don't have to math, and I've played at a lot of tables where other people help with math for those who can't do it quickly.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Never played, just what I gleaned from here. Thanks.

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

It's a lot less math than it used to be. Now it's mostly can you add two single/double digit numbers together? (Normally all are less than 30)

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yup. No deriving the value of (n). You rolled a 13, and you get +3 to hit. Now it's 16. Good job. You hit the goblin.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Also type resistances, weaknesses, immunities, and math

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

That's all just examples of the math.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Spectrum: It can go from almost no math at all (this tends to create a really chaotic mis-mash of a character that has no synergy), or very heavy in math (Which creates very specialized but interesting to play character.). The choice is yours. You can also forgo all the math and the system entirely and just free-form RP. I suggest that to people who don't want to look at the math behind TTRPGs.

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2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Well, that will exclude a few.

2 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 0

If you look at some of the posts on /r/dndhorrorstories, you'll realize it doesn't exclude quite as many bigots as you'd think.

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

That makes me a bit sad.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

It is... would be nice to think that only stupid people are bigots, but when it comes to empathy, some of the most backwards people I've met are also nerdy and super talented when it comes to mathematics and software development. Well known fact that there's still a lot of sexism and incel culture in STEM fields. Gamergate also was pretty emblematic of the larger issue; nerdy past times aren't as inviting to women and minorities as you'd hope... but it's getting better I think.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

?1

2 years ago | Likes 98 Dislikes 0

You caught us! We found a way to make math fun and engaging!

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Wellllll, if you were familiar with THAC0, "fun" and "engaging" were a bit subjective.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

THAC0 was nothing compared to the combat maneuver chart rules! That shit was obnoxiously confusing.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

+1 even though I found THAC0 pretty simple to use, but I have some natural mathamalogical talent.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

AD&D was for super nerds. It only lasted for like 2 years with the exception of some crazy holdouts (because they had nostalgia for the early Bauldurs Gate games.) Once 3.0 and especially 3.5 came out everyone played that because it was easier and had more options.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Didney Worl

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2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Depends, I've played some that is very math heavy and some where I don't touch dice a single time in a session. Depends on what type of a game you are playing.

2 years ago | Likes 44 Dislikes 0

If you're playing online a lot of the time the math is done for you so you don't even think about it lol

That said finding a good group irl is the best

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Even narrative sessions should at least have a few rolls. Perception, deception, sleight of hand, intimidation checks at least

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

It was more of a thing where we got caught up in what we were doing and none of those situations arose.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That's fair. My only rule is as long as everybody is having fun.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Depends on your DM, but IMO, using clickety clackity math rocks is always the right answer

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Honestly, as a DM, I'll run a narrative session and just have people randomly roll some dice, then I'll pretend to make a note of it, all before just going along with the session as normal. Trick is that the dice don't matter, but the PCs don't know that, and they end up feeling like they have a different sort of control once they roll some dice, even though those rolls mean nothing,.and the only thing that counts currently is whatever you're roleplaying doing.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Make sure for at least one roll the PCs make, you roll 16 dice behind your screen. Tell them their character doesn't notice anything wrong. Tell them at the end of the session that their boot lace came undone an hour ago.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

One of the very nice things (admittedly for some people) about 5e is how hand wavy a lot of the math is. I
Outside of combat it's not usually if x then y, it's like alright total of 12? You get the job done with these consequences, or you didn't succeed but made progress, or a lot of different ways to make the rolls feel important, but never letting the rolls decide how much fun the players are having. Another big one is deciding how important the roll is after hearing the result.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0