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It's real, pulled from their official website's Twitter feed. I know that it probably won't help the situation in the long run, but dang.
Jan 6, 2020 1:28 PM
Blud4BludGod
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It's real, pulled from their official website's Twitter feed. I know that it probably won't help the situation in the long run, but dang.
B0bbyBiceps
#oof
Doomster9
Nearly all administrations seem to get around this by calling it a conflict instead of a war...still shocking they would call him out on it.
youtah
https://twitter.com/HouseForeign/status/1213953699371982853
Nsturge
As much as I hate it Trump is right. War powers act limits the power of the president except when US persons are attacked among other things
SgtThunderfistMD
This is imgur. It's not about being right. It's about hating Trump no matter what. (PS didn't vote and won't vote for Trump).
Evanrudeplz
Daily reminder not to vote Republican. And more specifically, anything other than a vote for the Dem challenger is a vote for Trump.
Ozarck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States
Ozarck
The last of our five formal declaration of war was for World War II.
IMayOrMayNotHaveTroubleFindingAndOrChoosingAUsername
Hey USA, you guys doing okay? Have you considered couple's conseling?
fartharder
Cold blooded.
Bulletmagnet15
He can do virtually anything except declare war. I don't think we ever "declared" war after 911, we just went in.
neverpostsoriginalcontent
And Congress would make a bigger deal over that (undeclared "wars") except there is a general fear that it wouldn't hold up in SCOTUS.
mrroflz
We have had a preemptive strike since 2003. The war on terror is an ideology, not an actual war. No accountability unfortunately.
scroobiusgav
Hasn't america been involved in a war something like 90% of it's time.
TheJudgeHasItBackwards
Don't think we've actually declared war as prescribed in the constitution since WW2. Congress has all but ceded that power to the executive.
MiguelCamino
Yes we declare war after 9/11. Very few politicians voted against it.
MiguelCamino
Who down votes this? It is absolute, nonpartisan fact! LMAO
squintish
We werent much for 'declaring' war prior to 911 either.
ArmedandOverclocked
Congress authorized action for both Afghanistan and Iraq. Similar to how they authorized Vietnam.
Jess1988NY
President can use military force for up to 60 days without having to inform congress in advance. Obama used it a lot himself to bomb targets
luck3clover
Because Congress wanted to side step it’s responsibility.
Jess1988NY
true, but because of that he can
pwlfwb
By law he doesn’t need to tell Congress until within 48 hrs of the strike. Sad that the hatred and lack of trust made it happen.
ShoogettyBoogetty
He’s off his fucking nut.
Andalite
Our government has to argue with each other over fucking Twitter because our president is a child. This is the worst fucking timeline
DarthT4co
Soooooo, ya, we’re just tweeting declarations of war now. Ok.
deekermans31415
At least it wasn't written emojis. Silver linings.
DarthT4co
Give it time.
madhatter603
Bibi is as much a criminal as trump and needs this to distract from the corruption charges he is facing as much as trump is distracting from
madhatter603
His impeachment. MBS and Bibi are the ones pulling puppet trumps strings getting USA to do their dirty work, letting them claim action with
madhatter603
No risk of putting their citizens in danger. They are the school yard bullies calling big brother to fight when they get in over their head
doombuggy
scandia
OMG this is perfect.
Lurkch
You're out of your element
ArmedandOverclocked
If US assets are attacked then the president can respond militarily for a period up to 60 days without Congressional approval.Keep in mind1/
DavidTemper44
Any false flag attack counts?
ArmedandOverclocked
Pres. Obama did not consult congress prior to launching strikes against Libya in support of the Coup against Gaddafi. Though he did 2/
ArmedandOverclocked
Notify them after the fact. 3/3
miskatonichiker
A tweet should not serve as a formal notification for fucks sake.
ArmedandOverclocked
A formal notification regarding the initial strike was submitted to congress via classified letter on saturday. It may, or may not, 1/
ArmedandOverclocked
include trump currently is tweeting out. Hope there is a leak that sheds some light into what it said or if it was written in crayon or not.
Asteroidrules
Tweets are the only thing Donny has read to him so maybe this will actually get some of the Constitution into his skull.
Teasaurus
It's not, but to be the fucking president and act like a child threatening people over Twitter is just embarrassing. Par for the course tho
millenniumf
It's apparently the only form of notification he seems to pay attention to. People can't see him ignoring it.
MiguelCamino
Did President Obama go to Congress for every one of the 2700+ drone strikes he ordered?
MiguelCamino
I'm sorry. Drone strikes he approved, just in case people want to quibble.
Imightbetrolling
And sadly he will probably get reelected
WhatTheDormouseSaid
#notmydictator
VitaminJay
#notmycæsar
futureman3000
#avetruetocaesar
YouUselessTwat
Didn't the congress specifically grant short-term war powers to all presidents in order to quickly respond in times of crisis?
lostlittletimeonthis
Oh I see there's a rehash of Rome in modern times, good fun
faultysage
That's part of the War Powers Act.
Wuz314159
Not exactly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution
Fooby
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution#Questions_regarding_constitutionality
jobokai
Key being: in times of crisis.
RPhoenix
Yes and No.
Fooby
More yes than no, though. Post 9/11 we pretty much ceded limited strike ability to the executive for keeps.
MureNos
Kind of, they just haven't done anything about it for about two decades, which is how the last President could do so many drone strikes.
LokJok
Both sides...
TheCapedProcrastinator
They used the 2001 AUMF for legitimizing the drone strikes. And they re-asserted it in 2013 when they used a drone strike to kill an
TheCapedProcrastinator
American citizen. The 2001 AUMF technically never expired and was never retracted so they've referenced it each time this stuff happens.
oddoregano
*American citizen, he was the son of a soon to be terrorist leader. It's speculation, but he probably would have followed is father's lead.
puddin151
yeah but he was still a US citizen who was executed without trial by a president... completely unacceptable
KnightWang
Obama did a ton of strikes but don't count out Trump and how he's already doubled Obama's total
abigbeautifulrock
Trump has also done away with the reporting of civilian casualties from said drone strikes
LoudBirb
No... obama was able to commit air support and drone strikes to Syria because he got congressional approval:
CousinEddy
Did he get approval to drone strike a wedding full of civilians that was supposed to be super low level targets that didnt warrant such?
CodeChimpin
Hmm, classic “what-about-ism”. “Hey, Trump did something bad”, “But what about Obama?”
Ravben
I mean... it's so popular a bandwagon to hate Trump sometimes it takes an example of things similar the popular one did to check reality.
LoudBirb
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-joint-resolution/21
ipson
Donald Trump is not an American. He's a foreign agent. He works for them, not us.
AngryGraphicDesigner
Trump is a traitor and a Russian puppet! I can't believe Republicans are standing by him.
madhatter603
They are complicit. As long as they get their incompetent lifetime judges and can force their religious hypocrisy on us they don’t care
azazyel
I'm pretty sure congress will try to limit what he can do against Iran. I can't believe he said he'd destroy cultural sites.
Pootisborn
Well considering some of his supporters have been saying for years that we should nuke Mecca just to make a point, it doesn't surprise me.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Then you might have forgotten about all the other times he advocated war crimes. e.g. murdering the families of terrorists.
CrimsonReaper1985
I’m surprised that after all his shit you’d still be surprised by anything that toupee wearing Cheeto does.
kEMup
Casually tweets he's ready to commit war crimes. What a time to be alive.
Yusill
Honestly I wanna see him try then the pentagon say no. Which would cause a massive issue but I think it’s needed
Fooby
They won't. He is the commander. Unfortunately.
sysaphiswaits
Ugh. Let’s burn down the Library of Alexandria, again.
WhatTheDormouseSaid
I can believe it
TheJudgeHasItBackwards
You can't? What about him makes you think he has any knowledge of ANY type of law, or possesses a functional moral or ethical code?
DawnandTwlight
I believe that is a war crime, so I think Iran can actually file a complaint against the US.
Teasaurus
He did indeed say he would do that, as if he has the personal power to snap his fingers and rain missiles on innocent people.
HeroThatWasNeeded
This is why he's a boon to despots everywhere, he can destabilize hard to maintain political balances in a single day...
TheyCallMeTheHiphopopotamusIgotFlowsThatGlowLikePhosphorous
Unless of course you are the despot he's "destabilizing" so it's a double edged sword
HeroThatWasNeeded
If you have to abandon national interests abroad for profit while also causing chaos, sure.
Teasaurus
And if he did have that power we'd all be dead already. Thank fuck for the people acting as a filter for that prick.
StrongerPrune
Uhhh. But he does have that authority. ♂️ he can’t declare war, but he can approve military strikes.
Jarjarthejedi
Why can't you believe that? He stated he wanted to target civilians who were related to terrorists when running for office, and got voted in
Jarjarthejedi
on that rhetoric of committing a warcrime. Nothing new sadly.
puddin151
they have already done that to themselves.... anything not muslim has been destroyed he is just finishing up what they started
drainbamage1011
I wouldn't trust Congress to pour out a cup of water if the directions were printed on the bottom.
BigJewishHulk
He won't. He's going to bomb 25 missile sites and 27 oil refineries and ports.
chine
The most important part of being a Trump supporter is not listening to the things he says.
drainbamage1011
No, they listen. They just don't care...or they agree with him.
chine
No really, if you listen to the discourse about the shit he says, there's always some rhetorical slight of hand to explain what he said
chine
Trump is a fictional character upon which the prejudices and insecurities of the masses are reflected
BigJewishHulk
It was already in the news what was going to be bombed, but you be you.
chine
Link? That would be a massive breach of security if the list was known.
PanzerIVAsufH
Congress voted to make it illegal to remove troops from the middle East so don't bet on it. H.R.916
PanzerIVAsufH
Damn H.R.914
MeowWoof
Now explain how you got from Syria to include the whole middle east.
MOTHERFUCKING
Are you sure that's the right bill?
PanzerIVAsufH
H.R.914
MeowWoof
The School Resource Officer Act of 2019?
butts4life
If you are from the US please check your voter registration and vote on Nov 3rd, 2020! Thank you and have a great day!
coldwargofast
I cannot fucking wait to come here after Trump wins 2020 in another landslide. The tears and salt will be delicious
GGCrono
More importantly: If the Dems put up someone less than ideal, VOTE ANYWAY. This is not the time to make a statement. This is a time to act.
prophet002
True. Gotta vote for Trump again. Thanks for the reminder.
imtheguyintecornerofpartieshangingwithhisintrovertfriends
I hear that
butts4life
With all due respect, did you read the transcript and/or watch any of the impeachment testimony? Thank you for your time.
butts4life
Also, did you see Bolton will testify?
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Ah yes, because the war crimes really sealed the deal for you folks, eh?
butts4life
They love it!
c00lbeans69
I dont like your decision. But i respect it nonetheless.
Attacker732
For all his faults, he at least makes it seem like he's listening to the middle of the country. And that's more than anyone else has done.
butts4life
listening to the least populous area and completely ignoring and attacking the major population centers. What a warped sort of patriotism
Attacker732
The Midwest is one of the highest populated regions in the country... Our problems just aren't the same as New York's & California's. 1/2
BrockEffingSamson
What a profoundly uneducated opinion you have.
Attacker732
The Rust Belt is literally rusting away, and nobody in office was willing to help. I know a fair few who voted for Trump simply... 1/2
walnussbaum
You may explain first to Mr Trump what dictator means, it's a really complicated word.
DaMummy
I read that as "complimented" at first and I shook my head in agreement.
cedarcomb
He knows what dictators are. He admires them and wishes he could run his country more like they do in theirs.
WhatTheDormouseSaid
Three syllables!!
inconsolabledeplorable
No it's not, it's when you have "relations" with an Idaho Spud.
Moosecock
But everyone says he’s a dictator. Either he is or he isn’t
MassiveMaoMao
(After a long, defeated sigh and massaging of the temples) "...No, sir. It's not a penis-shaped potato..."
Rustedgrey
DAMMIT! i was hoping to create one specific to this very topic. or at least LMI. my dreams are dashed more than Greta's.
LvL98MissingNo
No it's a potato named Richard in a boat
jollyjack
I'm still at a loss as to what the Americans see in that whiny, spoilt, talentless stain of fake tan, teeth and hair.
futureman3000
Honestly? Themselves.
c00lbeans69
We dont see anything. Corps see money tho
mardukkur
So are most Americans.
mardukkur
The clown was elected with fewer votes than his opponent. He has never been anywhere close to 50% approval. He's a failure of our Democracy.
Bones8677
Another user put it this way, He's the idiot's idea of a smart man, the poor's idea of a rich man, and the coward's idea of a brave man.
loser9999
As an American we aren't sure either
DisgruntledFerret
A lot of us here don't know either. Dude lost the popular vote and won solely based on the technicalities of the system.
wazeewa
Gotta love the electoral college and gerrymandering.
rockfireman
I fully don't understand how the votes of hundreds can be worth more than the votes of millions.
Nikki1236969
It’s bullshit!
wazeewa
CGPGrey gives a simplified explaination: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUS9mM8Xbbw
rockfireman
So basically the Electoral College is an outdated piece of shit practice that should be done away with but it probably won't be?
ort84
They and many of you should actually read the war powers act. You’d be surprised how much latitude a President has for these acts short term
alvinthatsme
I aint reading that, give me a tldr mate
ViVeriVeniversumVivusVici
Yeah... Congress has the ability to declare long wars, but WPA gives Prez ability to start them. Also AMAU is already in place....
ParanoydAndroid
There's way more than that. e.g. there's reasonable notification requirements.
ArmedandOverclocked
i think the most people know is that congress has the power to declare wars, but are unfamiliar with What the Pres can do w/o that.
Grannyc
You can’t ask imgur users to do research and use logic. Don’t you know this community!?
DisgruntledFerret
Look at this guy, walking in and just straight-up telling everyone in the audience that they suck. Are you a pro wrestler?
Grannyc
No, I’m Ricky Gervais
DisgruntledFerret
Ah yes, taking a shot at the unethical business behind the glamorous world of... uh, the imgur user base.
SquireRamza
Basically since the day ol' George W. Got the patriot act passed the President can do whatever the fu k they want without limits
Sandyundertones
Except the Pentagon justified the actions under the PATRIOT act which was never intended to be used against countries
hipifreq
30 days to do anything, after that Congress needs to approve, but precedent on that has already gone well over
Aquilarden
The 2001 AUMF has been exploited to get around that repeatedly.
AgainstMethod
Congress can still tell him to put it back in his pants before those 30 days are up, though.
Logwarrior999
Thought it was 60 days. Guess I'll have to check now.
hipifreq
You sir, are correct that it's 60 days - I was mistaken when I wrote 30
TheWombatStrikesAgain
That seems like a huge oversight. Because you can do a lot in 30 days that can't be easily reversed. Is that intentional? Or a relic (1)
TheWombatStrikesAgain
from the time when the constitution was wrote and you'd need 30 days to even call up the troops? (2)
dylanamanhouilhan
Intentional part of the Bush wars changes
CheesecakePi
That particular law is intentional, from the 1960s if I'm recalling correctly. In the event of clear and pressing national emergencies, /1
CheesecakePi
it's not necessarily the greatest idea for Congress to have to discuss things to death before ANY military force can be employed. They've /2
faultysage
But 48 hours to inform Congress. Preferably not through twitter.
Neonbaron
That's the beauty of the modern world, someone could order someone shivved and the victim would be sure to tweet about it as it dies
Torrent13
It literally has to be in writing, he just ignored it
Morrowr
I didn’t know the definition of “in writing” limited it to hand written letters.
PlagueDoctorInDaHouse
"in writing" generally means on paper.
DreadPierateRoberts
Yeah a tweet is not appropriate though. Has to be a group text.
oddoregano
You'd have to link for us to even open it. Doesnt mean wed read it. Maybe bookmark it for later.
kwkspectre
Nobody will read them.
Cthulhuchooseyou
There has to be an Imminent Threat, to override Congress, or it's illegal. Days later, and STILL NO explanation!
TheWombatStrikesAgain
But they said they have good reason! Why don't you just take their word for it? /s
ArmedandOverclocked
Congress was officially notified Saturday via a classified document; which came within the 48 hour window. source to follow. 1/
ArmedandOverclocked
source: https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/04/politics/white-house-notify-congress-soleimani/index.html
HellWestAndCrooked
Not to you personally, no; but Congress did receive a classified briefing.
Cthulhuchooseyou
Me personally? Wth are you talking about? Where do you people come from with your BS arguments?
MomKevinjustfelloutofthecar
The Congress as a whole will not get a classified briefing. Splitting hairs
HellWestAndCrooked
You are, indeed.
MomKevinjustfelloutofthecar
You are shouting at the trees. Go take a nap.
ArtOzz
It makes sense that a president would have that kind of latitude. The issue is that the raging immature brain malfunctioning 3 year old in
ArtOzz
charge that for some reason no one seems able to depose is making short term decisions that cause disaster for global stability.
idontevenpost
That seems to be more of an argument to keep that check in Congress instead of ceded to the president
Sturdycrotch
Putin's asset at work
idontevenpost
By attacking Iran? A Russian ally?
Sturdycrotch
You know Russia doesn't actually give a fuck about its allies. That country has had a longer history of betrayal and deceit than the USA
Sturdycrotch
Make the US look reckless and dangerous, erego weakening our position by using Iran as an unwitting means to bolster Russian global power
ArtOzz
*shrug* The orange twat has a dinner with Putin's reps and then does this. What does that tell you?
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
Stoking conflict is pretty much Russia's thing. There's no such thing as allies in any realistic sense. Russia knows it'll be easier to -
KissMikeLitorusSheSaid
Any factual information to back your claim up?
Beezlebubble
*gestures vaguely* you see the shit going on right now?
KissMikeLitorusSheSaid
I’m specifically referring to your comment “...Disaster for global stability” I’m genuinely curious to what you’re getting to there. Thanks.
ArtOzz
IKR. Like, bro, we got one continent on fire, another starting WW3, I dont dare find out what the others are doing less I give up all hope..
MomKevinjustfelloutofthecar
I laugh at you. Very simplistic and completely uninformed
TheFoxxWitch
That's easy to say and harder to prove without any proof we are all laughing at you
Muttons1337
Instead of condescension, perhaps a route of sharing your learned knowledge and mutual understanding might be beneficial.
MomKevinjustfelloutofthecar
You p/a types. Just enjoy your rant. Swear an oath and pick a side.
KissMikeLitorusSheSaid
Perhaps both sides should try that.
Woodcastle
No, no. That's not the bases mo. It's just you are wrong the Cheeto is all powerful. Bow before the Cheeto. See the coming of the Cheeto.
Wuz314159
Informed Israel before he informed Democratic Leadership because a foreign government can be trusted with secrets more than Americans. o_Ó
HonestCommentFarmer
Well they're the enemy, see. They're haters against everything that is Trump.
JohanWyss
If the US bombs someone, and the someone has a friend who can bomb Israel, the friend will bomb Israel even if it's not involved. Ask Saddam
MercEasy
I for one am not at all surprised
Rhacodactylus
Foreign leaders can't hold him accountable in any way he cares about.
barbarian818
and apparently told some random people at Mar-a-Largo more than he told Congress.
natus
Oy vey
lemonysword
OUR GREATEST ALLY
Stefanathanafus
I don't want to take away from your point but that emoji is amazing and innovative and I applaud you.
BigJewishHulk
Well, they have proven they can't be trusted with the information.
UnitedGalactic
Nope, Trump can't be trusted.
yacoblaliberte
I can agree w your sarcasm in an honest sense
Abusementpark
Because we're going to war to do Israel's dirty work. They're the 51st US state and by far the most influential in our foriegn policy.....
TheBrofessionaI
Honestly- fuck Israel.
foltjman42
At least more than the leaky Democrats
ImaginaryMamboNumber5
Dropped hints to his punters at Mar-a-Lago a few days ahead of time too.
ImaginaryMamboNumber5
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-did-not-brief-congress-but-told-mar-a-lago-members-to-expect-big-action-against-iran/
gecko08
Informed his idiot son who posted and then deleted a tweet about it.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Hey Imgur historians, has there ever been a US administration with this many leaks? If so: which?
TheBrofessionaI
Sure. Abe Lincoln and JFK.
Lybithian
Well considering every time trump lets congress know something they leak military strike secrets to the enemy, so yeah don’t blame him.
Iatesomecoffeecups
Oooooooh he said the unpopular but true fact!
UnitedGalactic
Trumptards have to lie about the truth otherwise they have to face that they support a pedophile.
Jess1988NY
He never informed Israel till after the fact, the IDF was surprised when they were told after, Iran claims US told Israel first but no proof
Canofminus
Wait. No one told you that Israel is just East Long Island?
imouttahere87
No it’s because American leaders bow down to the Israelies and most likely the order came from them
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
Because Republicans have no interest in Democracy anymore. It's all a sham. Just enough to trick voters into thinking it, but once they've-
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
won their seats, they do all they can to act unilaterally. They are the ruling party by all metrics. And as such, they have every legal -
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
right and avenue to act as said ruling party. They treat Democrats like enemies of the American people because they are the enemies of the-
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
party's power. And as such, they convince their voters that Democrats are enemies of America by virtue of opposing the party.
Photeus
He trusts Putin over US Intelligence. Not sure what anyone expected here. Just being his shitty self as usual.
kaleldc86
Well, Putin isnt actively trying to get him fired...so...
Valgyan
To be fair israel is our biggest ally, rather we are their biggest ally.
LexaBro
Because the neocons practically let Israel run our country. Just take a look at aipac
GeniusGT
Not only them. It seems like everyone except who should have been told weren't.
GeniusGT
elmohateshimselfbutelmosbloodlustmustbesated
Not a defense, but he has the power to order short term action, as well as immediate strikes. Letting Israel know was likely because 1/2
Rip42
This is conditional. There was no "national emergency created by attack upon the united states."
elmohateshimselfbutelmosbloodlustmustbesated
This is true, to an extent. If the Intel was he led an attack on an embassy, then yes, the attack is technically on the US. However 1/2
elmohateshimselfbutelmosbloodlustmustbesated
We have had him dead to rights before, multiple times, during both the bush and Obama administrations. We didnt pull the trigger then 2/3
elmohateshimselfbutelmosbloodlustmustbesated
Because we couldn't afford the political and possible war repercussions. Not saying we can now, just that we couldn't then either. 3/3
AstroExplained
But he apparently didn't inform other European allies who have troops in the area. And they wonder why Europe wasn't happy...
AgainstMethod
He managed to tell GOP Leadership in time, though.
elmohateshimselfbutelmosbloodlustmustbesated
They are the root of Americas problem with Islamist hatred. Not making excuses, just explaining.2/2
vulpesvulpes
That's all good, but the gang of eight should have been informed.
kaleldc86
They were. Of the results.
BadScooter
anti-Semitism alert: Blaming Jews for your country's problems.
elmohateshimselfbutelmosbloodlustmustbesated
You can downvote this all you want, but Islamic terrorists exist because according to them we are "treasonous allies of the zionists"
desertbear87
It goes back farther to their hatred of Westernism and "Rome" after they were forced out of Europe after hundreds of yrs of subjugating ppl
MarcoPoloOnPollo
It probably started there, but the reason evolved as the people familiar with that history died out.
theshinobi23
You got sidetracked a bit there, but I *think* what you were going for was he informed them so they could prep against possible retaliation.
ThePotatoBandit
That may be part of the reason but it is by no means the only reason
flashtrigger
That’s where it all started. You kick a people off their holy land and they tend to hold a grudge
stephanieyes173
I'm calling BS. Israel doesn't explain the hatred of Coptic Christian's, or of inter Muslim hatreds ie Sunni vs shiite
elmohateshimselfbutelmosbloodlustmustbesated
The hatred of Coptic Christians and inter Muslim conflict have nothing to do with hatred of america. Israel is a core reason for that.
HeroThatWasNeeded
The Sunni-Shiite split, albeit not as violent as Christian Schisms, has existed at boiling temperatures for centuries.
pazuzu
Eric knew before Congress knew. Eric isn't even in government
Gonnaderpya
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/eric-trump-tweet-iran-strike/ As much as I think that whole family is trash... plausible deniability here
imgurdotcommie
fucking despicable.
kaleldc86
Well are any democrats within ballistic missile range if Iran? And do I trust israel .ore than democrats in Congress? Yes I do. At least
kaleldc86
They have a vested interest in US security.
ImReallyVent
Well. More than the Democrats at least.
UnitedGalactic
Republicans are traitors.
Gutpilegutezeit
Fuck the people who's allegiance to a political party are over that of the entire nation. You're the fucking problem.
ImReallyVent
Ok boomer.
postman69
No because it's Israel's war. Just like Iraq and Syria, American soldiers die and American tax gets wasted to fight Israel's war.
Jess1988NY
You mean Iraq, the war Israel opposed the US getting into? or Syria where they told the US to back out and leave it to them?
postman69
No. BiBi went for two hours begging Congress to allow the invasion of Iraq. It's on YouTube. Look it up.
Jess1988NY
What does Bibi wanting the Iraq War have to do with anything? He was a the finance minister, not PM, not Defense Minister, etc
Jess1988NY
I hope you are smart enough to know that the personal opinions of the Finance Minister is not official govt policy.
BadScooter
anti-Semitism alert: blaming the world's conflicts on Jews
postman69
Ready labels to silence truth alert. I am blaming Israel the state not jews in NY or in Morocco.
BadScooter
Widely accepted definition of anti-Semitism: https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/working-definition-antisemitism?usergroup=7
BadScooter
You know nothing about anti-Semitism, except for how to proliferate it. I call it out where it is.
JohanWyss
Did you know that after the US invaded Iraq, Saddam Hussein deliberately bombed Israel despite 0 provocation in the hope that IDF joining 1
JohanWyss
The war would cause for the withdraw of Saudi Arabia from the Coalition? 2
postman69
Do you know that there were already Mosad involved in the war on Iraq way in the beginning of the war. I remember back then seeing in the ne
postman69
news. And why would Dubyya plane to invade Iraq second day after Sept 11. Go watch BiBi pleading to Congress to attack Iraq. He went for
postman69
hours begging US to attack Iraq. It's in youtube.
Jess1988NY
Israel opposed the invasion of Iraq very publicly and protests it till the day of invasion. Bibi was just an MP at the time, not PM
hokeyreligions
Calm down Hitler
madhatter603
Don’t like the truth so that’s all you can respond with? Pathetic
postman69
Exactly. Antisemitism is and nazi accusation are ready labels for speaking ill of bloody Zionism.
BuskerJeff
I like how you think defending an ally is a waste of money.
madhatter603
Israel such a great ally who killed 34 and wounded 171 Americans on the USS liberty without repercussions? Or SA where the 9/11 terrorists
Caramster
Well, Ally as they might be but certainly not friends with the US considering the American lives they have on their conscience. And don't...
madhatter603
Let Bibi and MBS fight their own war. I like how you think it’s defending.
KittensGivePaarthurnaxGas
Well, TBH, Israel is one of the few foreign powers that can get away with deliberately attacking a US warship, and killing US sailors.
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Caramster
Don't forget Operation Susannah. Israel would turn on the US without hesitation if they would believe that it would benefit the Israel state
TheBrofessionaI
So people of the Jewish state of Israel did this?
kaleldc86
Is your argument that Israel isnt the US's closest ally in the region?
Jess1988NY
You mean a Ship 100 Miles from where the US told Israel prior to the attack, in a war zone, that refused to respond to hails? That ship
todayok
The first rule of firing a weapon is to know what you're aiming at. Israel either didn't verify (bad) or didn't care (worse).
Jess1988NY
a ship in a warzone heading towards enemy territory right after your supply depot was shelled in that area, that doesn't respond? ID enough
Jess1988NY
and as soon as they realized, they stopped, offered help (which the captain refused), and notified the US govt and offered reparations
todayok
You're facts are significantly wrong (and you know it) but how does your version change Rule 1 of weaponry: Know what you're aiming at.
TheBrofessionaI
Citation needed
KittensGivePaarthurnaxGas
Here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident.
LonelyHumanBoy
USS Liberty 1967. Do your own fucking research.
TheBrofessionaI
This was so much easier. Plus I’m on a job site with spotty cell coverage. Thanks, no need to be a dick.
wraith24
Dude do your research properly. It was an accident during the 6 day war. They thought it was an Egyptian ship.
hairytrigga
An Egyptian ship flying a US flag the size of a minivan apparently.
Claytonious
Diplomatic cables from the Israeli ambassador in Washington state they knew it was an American vessel and still decided to attack it.
GhostsofRazgriz
I haven't heard a single testimony from the survivors that hasn't claimed the incident was deliberate.
LonelyHumanBoy
You mean how even the IDF admitted they knew it was a US ship and elected to ignore the intel? Then conveniently said they failed to notice?
TheFoxxWitch
The burden of proof always lies with the person making the claim you'd know that if you did your own research
LonelyHumanBoy
When someone demands claim with a dismissive tone from the getgo they show they have bias already, no one is beholden to teach a wall.
PillowFortPolice
Friendly reminder: trump was legally voted into office. We elected him. He is nothing more than the product of a broken system. And an idiot
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
The American people did not elect him. A broken system that gives more power to empty land and 8 states than actual Americans did.
PillowFortPolice
Your absolutely right. But we are still responsible. We dont have to sit here and take it, but were all too afraid to actually start 1/2
PillowFortPolice
A revolution. People might say that's dramatic, but honestly most revolutions dont start until it's too fucking late.
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
Revolutions, historically, don't really work well on average. The only cure is for the populace to get smart, and get motivated. Democracy-
darkoshen
You're not correct. Trump did not receive more popular votes than HRC. Here's what happened: the Electoral College appointed Trump.
xo101
The vote is state by state. I suggest reading the Federalist papers to understand the value of the Electoral College.
PillowFortPolice
Which. They. Can. Legally. Do.
k94u10
but the president isnt elected via popular vote the electoral college is to get a more broad voice so high population areas dont
k94u10
garentee the election look at what district voted for who the vast majority of the country voted trump district wise
Attacker732
Your statement is true in more ways than you may know. A less-broken system wouldn't have left the middle of the country with no... 1/2
Attacker732
2/2 ...one listening to their issues for decades on end.
Wuz314159
In my life, the White House has been occupied by a: Republican: 24 years. Democrat: 16 years.
grandfalloon
And a Republican hasn't been placed there by a majority vote for 32 years
TheJudgeHasItBackwards
I can understand and certainly forgive one-time Trump voters. He's a con-man, and people get fooled. The real test will be the next vote.
PillowFortPolice
Respectfully, and I mean that genuinely, I disagree. If someone is not seriously researching before they vote, they should abstain from it.
PillowFortPolice
Probably half the people voting, and I dont believe that is an exaggeration at all, never vote outside their party or even consider it.
PillowFortPolice
Americans are so obsessed with saying "voting is your patriotic duty". Its not patriotic to participate in a system that is destroying
Se7enPr1me
didnt Israel steal a bunch of US secrets? or is that not true
Jess1988NY
And the US has stolen plenty of secrets from Israel. It goes both ways, the difference is only one side complains when the other does it
Se7enPr1me
what were those secrets again? remind yourself.
Jess1988NY
How Israel spied on Saudi's in the 80's and 90's (Multiple spies and gave the info to the Saudi's), Israeli military tech in the 90's, etc
Jess1988NY
also in the 80's the US spied on Israel high command during Lebanon and handed that info to the Lebanese, resulted in IDF casualties, etc
Jess1988NY
And in the 50's the US was much worse on how they spied on Israel. Israel didnt start spying on the US till the 80's
GhostsofRazgriz
No, they were given to them but they did sell them to China
Jess1988NY
They never sold anything to China, an Israeli scientist who was convicted of espionage did.
Se7enPr1me
oof still not good
Jess1988NY
Yeah, but big difference between one bribed scientist and the actual govt like the person accused