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There is an ongoing genocide and it would probably take a serious force to stop it. I don't know where this force will come from.
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faisal19911991
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There is an ongoing genocide and it would probably take a serious force to stop it. I don't know where this force will come from.
gryzlock
It means nothing if no action is taken.
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
"We recognise the state of Palestine...all while arming, funding and supporting Israel with money and weapons to continue their expansion into the West Bank with illegal settlements, and the destruction, starvation and genocide of Gaza" - Western Nations.
Wrinkle666
Go Canada,Australia, UK for joining at least recognition of the Plight ! Not very happy about my countries continuing military help for Netanyahu's Regime ! (UK)
Skawomplious
When the West decides to embargo a country and means it, it's incredibly effective. When it doesn't force the change desired, it makes it damned hard for the embargoed country to keep doing it. But we have to mean it, and we're a long way from that here.
aviselafin211
The Carney Liberal's effort at the UN may be yet another "nothing burger" meant to appease his voters. He's qualified this by demanding Hamas be disbanded and that elections are held next year without Hamas, who are on Canada's terror watch list. It is doubtful whether Hamas will abide by this since they've held power without election for some 10 years now. Meanwhile, too many Palestinian mothers and children will suffer horribly while the UN dithers about yet again.
boinboots
Even the Palestinians say, Palestine is a made-up bullshit by Gaddafi and co in the 70th.
Watch a video of Mosab Hassan Yousef. He is the son of a co-founder of Hamas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosab_Hassa">ousef">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosab_Hassan_Yousef
https://youtu.be/I4QuBFVKGQk?si=UvcWtpC7HQjYfcoH
DinkyDoinky
Unfortunately, nothing will come of this, this is just virtue signaling.
ToSisPoS
No wonder they worked so hard to get PP into Rideau Hall.
pomax
"now that everyone's dead, we can safely say this"
mayodash
These countries saying they recognise Palestine as a state at this point reminds me of this, "The white man will try to satisfy us with symbolic victories rather than economic equity and real justice" - Malcolm X
Niagaran
He still fucking **REFUSES** to call it a genocide. Refuses. Fuck him.
sheslikeheroin
Mark seserves no credit here, he's continuinf his predessors habit of virtue signalling and then enacting policy that does nothing useful or makes the situation worse. He is barring israels critics like knee cap from my country whilr pretending he cares about palestinians here. He's a disapointment on many fronts not just this one.
originalhuman
Surely the assassination of Netanyahu would help greatly
Athol
As much as I despise him, sadly I don't think it would. His party would just find another one, and if said assassin was in anyway Arab, the IDF would triple down on atrocities.
michaelfire
Let us hope moral force will suffice though since Netanyahu's freedom from prison- just like Trump's- depends on endless war (Trump's his war on immigrants and now his newly announced "war on the Left").
Trump's freedom and power also depend on foreign leaders- including Netanyahu- as Epstein has ties that many media sources agree on that are likely already in possession of the Epstein files 1/
michaelfire
Honey Trap Op on rump?Google Maxwell's father. Stories agree on Epstein Int'l ties https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-link-is-worth-digging-iing-into">https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-linto ">ing-into">https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who">nk-is-wo">nto ">ing-into">https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-link-is-worth-digging-into https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/jeffrey-epstein-steven-hoffenberg-intelligence-agencies-spy-1197708/ http://www.jpost.com/israel-news/jeffrey-epstein-may-have-had-links-to-israeli-leaders-the-rolling-stone-674244 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.html
nthensome
Good guy Canada
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
Nah fuck this mealy mouthed bullshit. They still haven't enforced the export restrictions on military hardware, until they do this is just political theatre
euphoricopportunity
If only this had happened 18 months ago. Or 10 years ago. Or 30. Or 40. Or more. And maybe if the USA didn't keep encouraging the most brutal fuckers in the Middle East.
JustAnotherknarF
As a Canadian I don't particularly care for Carney, but as a Human Being I care about this...
BaBaDuuk
Itssss alllll bullllshiiitttt. To protect their image. No embargos. No bans. No cancelled contracts with israel or its benefactors. No reprimand for israel making up lies, breaking ceasefires and false flags. “We think those people you are and have been massacring for decades are real people, we recognise those people and now we will continue to turn away from those people as you continue to massacre them”.
supergay2017
Nice. Now it means that Palestine, as a terrorist state, started the war, a conflict which now moved on their own territory. And events of October 7th are war crimes, and should be judged as such.
Fuck terrorists!!!!👍
KarlderMarder
Like: "Hostages? What hostages? Never heard of 'em"
supergay2017
It’s insane tbh.. 🤯🤯
Mountons
Bout time. Mark.
drunkmastered
Forked tongue. https://www.readthemaple.com/liberal-government-authorized-new-exports-for-israels-iron-dome/
Mountons
Ugh....
inspector44
All the countries recognizing Palestine should send peace keeping troops there to stop Israel.
thepatioheater
Can anyone explain this to me. Before Israel was set up after WW2, wasn't Palestine already there? And so wasn't it already a state? Surely having to "recognise" this place that already existed beforehand is just forgetting it was there first?
Athol
It wasn't an independent nation, but a British administered territory; and before that it was part of the Ottoman Empire.
OrThatsWhatTheySayAnyway
And a collection of people's/groups/communities.
michaelfire
US human rights in danger too-Operation Canary Mission-Israeli Intel Op against USA universities, media, politicians, legal system-now US immigration system. https://www.vox.com/politics/410125/canary-m">rations/">https://www.vox.com/politics/410125/canary-mission-the-pro-israel-group-taking-credit-for-student-deportation-explainedhttps://www.thenation.com/article/world/canary-mission-israel-covert-operations/ https://www.democracynow.org/2023/12/27/canary_mission OP Lavender-using US Intel tech https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza 1
michaelfire
How? CIA, Theil's Palantir, Israeli Op Lavender. See Human Rights, targeting civilians, genocide https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocin-gaza/">https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international">ide-agai">in-gaza/">https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/ https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/05/end-unfolding-genocide-or-watch-it-end-life-gaza-un-experts-say-states-face https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/05/15/gaza-latest-israeli-plan-inches-closer-extermination US human rights targeted w/ Epstein too Coin War 2
michaelfire
Max danger now. Trump declares war on "the Left", Kirk critics. COIN warfare ahead of 2026 elections- to preempt release of Epstein List perhaps- major violent violation of US civil rights to "disrupt" Dem voters, election manipulation/voter suppression before 2026. Danger to US, Left cannot be overstated. ICE just became the most heavily funded militarized police in the world $200b budget for domestic warfare /gallery/what-new-war-on-left-will-look-like-what-has-been-whKBnqV 3
michaelfire
More on Trump's "war on the Left"-dangerous partisan COIN war- the goal is political victory in 2026 https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/fbi-kash-patel-antifa-blm-S1LD">https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/fbi-kash-patterro">S1LD">https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/fbi-kash-patel-antifa-blm-terror-groups?sr">el-an">terro">S1LD">https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/fbi-kash-patel-antifa-blm-terror-groups?srsltid=AfmBOoqHtqlMjm4wjA0aCFf7_I9FWXb_75dvT-KbxLOPVjw1CuOgS1LD
.https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/01/magazine/fbi-terrorism-terry-albury.html
https://theintercept.com/2019/10/22/terrorism-fbi-political-dissent/
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/did-trump-just-declare-war-on-the-american-left
blah1blah1blah1
How about this. Recognizing ain’t going to do shit. You can recognize all you want but why don’t you STOP FUNDING THOSE MONSTERS WITH WEAPONS FIRST!!!!
If you truly wanted to recognize it you Brit’s wouldnt have given it to those non-human z-pigs in the first place.
loma45
Carney is the PM of Canada
probablyshouldbedoingwork
He's not a Brit
Oatmealman1
After the sick shit Israel has done, they dont deserve peace
pritolus
Israel as a nation needs to be destroyed. The people can stay, as citizens of Palestine. There will never be peace as long as Israel still exists as a state.
Oatmealman1
Absolutely. Israel is a terrorist nation. The isreali people will need to be deprogrammed from their sick hate that they've been corrupted into holding onto. Even the children are taught that palestinian people (including children their own age) should be ruthlessly slaughtered and tortured to death. It's a sick sick nation
pritolus
Thankfully they're not all bad though. I've seen pro Palestine rallies happening in Israel, full of white-ass Israelis. One of them even had a "From the river to the sea" sign
Oatmealman1
I would like to hope that's true and that it will grow. Hope is hard to come by these days.
michaelfire
Max danger now. Trump declares war on "the Left", Kirk critics. COIN warfare ahead of 2026 elections- to preempt release of Epstein List perhaps- major violent violation of US civil rights to "disrupt" Dem voters, election manipulation/voter suppression before 2026. Danger to US, Left cannot be overstated. ICE just became the most heavily funded militarized police in the world $200b budget for domestic warfare /gallery/what-new-war-on-left-will-look-like-what-has-been-whKBnqV 1/
michaelfire
More on Trump's "war on the Left"-dangerous partisan COIN war- the goal is political victory in 2026 https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/fbi-kash-patel-antifa-blm-S1LD">https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/fbi-kash-patterro">S1LD">https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/fbi-kash-patel-antifa-blm-terror-groups?sr">el-an">terro">S1LD">https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/fbi-kash-patel-antifa-blm-terror-groups?srsltid=AfmBOoqHtqlMjm4wjA0aCFf7_I9FWXb_75dvT-KbxLOPVjw1CuOgS1LD
.https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/01/magazine/fbi-terrorism-terry-albury.html
https://theintercept.com/2019/10/22/terrorism-fbi-political-dissent/
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/did-trump-just-declare-war-on-the-american-left
michaelfire
US human rights in danger too-Operation Canary Mission-Israeli Intel Op against USA universities, media, politicians, legal system-now US immigration system. https://www.vox.com/politics/410125/canary-m">rations/">https://www.vox.com/politics/410125/canary-mission-the-pro-israel-group-taking-credit-for-student-deportation-explainedhttps://www.thenation.com/article/world/canary-mission-israel-covert-operations/ https://www.democracynow.org/2023/12/27/canary_mission OP Lavender-using US Intel tech https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza 1
michaelfire
How? CIA, Theil's Palantir, Israeli Op Lavender. See Human Rights, targeting civilians, genocide https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocin-gaza/">https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international">ide-agai">in-gaza/">https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/ https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/05/end-unfolding-genocide-or-watch-it-end-life-gaza-un-experts-say-states-face https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/05/15/gaza-latest-israeli-plan-inches-closer-extermination US human rights targeted w/ Epstein too Coin War 2
michaelfire
Honey Trap Op on rump?Google Maxwell's father. Stories agree on Epstein Int'l ties https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-link-is-worth-digging-iing-into">https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-linto ">ing-into">https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who">nk-is-wo">nto ">ing-into">https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-link-is-worth-digging-into https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/jeffrey-epstein-steven-hoffenberg-intelligence-agencies-spy-1197708/ http://www.jpost.com/israel-news/jeffrey-epstein-may-have-had-links-to-israeli-leaders-the-rolling-stone-674244 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.html
TheGriffin
Okay now do something that isnt virtue signaling. Cancel arms contracts, push the rcmp to start enforcing the Foreign Enlistment acts, stop pushing a failed two state solution. Do something, ya fucking banker scumbag
DoctorCaptainProfessorAmazing
This is doing something. Formal recognition of a state by foreign bodies creates both legitimacy and creates a paradigm shift. Now it is no longer Israel dealing with an internal matter, it's attacking a foreign nation. That is what creates those paths to the next actions. This is a great step to actually helping Palestine.
TheGriffin
Israel already attacks foreign nations. They attacked boats in Tunis, they strike Syria and Lebanon on the regular, and have struck targets in Iran with little to no actual consequences
boognish115
Cancelling arms deals to Israel would be a major blow to western nation’s economies. The vast majority of our taxes and therefore gov revenue is due to the military industrial complex. It’s the reason why we are allies. They are making a some Americans very very rich.
TheGriffin
Im sure we can find someone else to buy those parts. And if not, id rather economic harm than supporting genocide
boognish115
Of course. That goes without saying. But that’s the reason why we won’t ever in a million years cancel our military contracts with our best customer. The oligarchs are making lots of money.
powwerbottom
Declaring recognition is the first step. Biggest step they've taken so far, and it makes way for more to come.
Goldensands
Sure yeah any day now
TheWiseAlaundo
The problem is it should have been done decades ago and is now being done in the place of actual action. This is not support for the people being killed but to placate and pacify domestic pressure. Happy to be wrong and it could be a first step but we must not let the leave it at this.
powwerbottom
I agree
DoctorCaptainProfessorAmazing
The best time to do this was decades ago. Since we cant go back, the 2nd best time is right now instead of later.
TheGriffin
Foreign Enlistment Act.
Arms sales.
Political money.
Carney fucking banned the Irish group Kneecap last week because they dared to have an opinion.
Its not a big step, its an attempt at appeasement
iamalumberjackandiamok
Yep exactly this. Even today he reiterated that the goal is to have a zionist palestine, whatever that means.
powwerbottom
Yikes
NaughtButOne
"Failed two state solution," failed only because Palestinians keep refusing it. The terms of this statehood recognition is that the PLA will recognize Israel's legitimacy and Palestinians agree to the two state solution that's been offered to them half a dozen times. Netanyahu has no incentive to agree right now, but if PLA can form government and gets on board, the entire weight of the international community (minus the US) falls on him to acquiesce.
Bigblackdick69
Bigblackdick69
Shout out to the down voters, you have done nothing but validate my point
pritolus
You do realize that Israel has broken literally every single cease-fire they've entered with Palestine? Every offer of peace they've ever made has been disingenuous.
TheGriffin
"Netanyahu has no incentive"? Go fuck yourself, apologist.
You're asking Poland to exist with Nazi Germany beside it. Bibi keeps reneging on deals to protect his own ass from corruption trials.
Either Israel mows down palestine and the apartheid regime locks in, or Palestine takes back the land that it had and israel ceases to exist. There are no two state solutions.
NaughtButOne
...? Previous governments in Israel have agreed to two state solutions multiple times, wherein most of Gaza and the West Back are returned and other lands are traded for the rest. I'm saying the current government under Netanyahu has no incentive to suddenly reverse course right now and agree to anything like that. That may change as international sentiment turns against him, or maybe a new government takes over. Germany didn't "cease to exist". They just changed governments.
Krackajak78
Which are you hoping for
TheGriffin
Im hoping for the dissolution of both states and the building of a new one without the baggage and wherein the religious importance of the region to all the faiths making a claim to it can be respected as well as making it a truly representative democracy of the people who all live there
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
Cool, cool. What's going to magically stop Israel from continuing despite the "weight of the international community"?
Gaelwyn
Nothing. Just like it hasn't for the past 75+ years.
NaughtButOne
Good question.
anarchoFeline
it honestly wouldn't take much force. have the US and Germany stop sending them tons of weapons and enforce sanctions if they continue their actions.
darthnerdus6236
Now would probably be a good time for Canada to stop too...
MotherEffinSatan
Right wing religious zealots also, along with Putin, funded and aided Trump, they own him. American Evangelicals are also funding the Israeli war because their raptures and such, keep not happening, so theyre hoping forcing the holy war will usher it in.
touchofgray8503
But to do that, Trump would have to let go of Bennie's d**k.
katolu
The rabid American christo-fascists would never allow that. They are too far intertwined into corporate and political institutions.
KuroNeko00
Israel owns too many American politicians for that to ever happen.
KittyKlimt6
Seriously what is up with us Germans. Super unpopular to say anything against Israel. You can merely whisper. I mean c'mon. Merz even cried on a reopening of a Synagoge with a survivor present, because "all those (past) atrocities". No emotion towards recent atrocities. Seen in former German capital Bonn at the museum of German history: Translation: "After Hitler" (name of the current exhibition) "genocide again". Word.
michiyl
For a German government, the ban on weapons (and the "we're concerned of what is happening in Gaza" rhetoric) is quite a large step. Most countries know that Germany has the safety of the state of Israel as one of the principles, due to history. So, the German government has to find the fine line of being pro-safety for Israelis while also not being taken as anti-semitic in any actions against the state of Israel. ... That being said, there should be more pressure put onto Israel.
KittyKlimt6
I just don't get the "fine line". Broad as Amazonas. Telling my friend to stop killing a man doesn't mean I don't want safety for my friend. I just say to him "what you do is not ok, stop it". Because what he does is not ok. I want him physically and psychologically safe & stable. Thats why I prevent him doing the bad thing. Weird friendship, indeed.
Isthe4thtimethecharm
The UN is so a few countries can act like they care while doing nothing. Like so many things, it started off with good reason. But turned to shit when people in power learned how to manipulate it.
MinimumContributor
Letting all kids talk their share at the dinner table but mom or dad can still veto and crush any otherwise unanimous decision
shitheadtookmyname
The UN basically exists to prevent hot wars between powerful countries, and to that extent it has worked amazingly. Think about before and after.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
...and the UK! Don't forget the plucky Brits!
anarchoFeline
they have their part for sure but the former axis parties plus the US are the biggest contributors.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
Nice dig
RonnieSoak
The UK supposedly has: the only thing they still do is send parts to the global F35 program and they have no control over where they end up. The prime minister also joined Canada and Australia in recognising Palestinian state hood. We're getting there, slowly.
Thenybo
Hasn't Germany already stopped?
Waschbaerkoenig
Germany kind of has. It stopped sending weapons that aren't purely defensive. This might give Merz the opportunity to wiggle around this 'ban' by declaring some as defensive.
KittyKlimt6
Yeah but we still send the other ones
ScruffyCat
The German govt. blurs their official policy deliberately to not incriminate themselves for being accessories to war crimes (again). They have slowed and halted future export licenses, but will still honor and fulfill existing contracts. This even includes a nuclear submarine. Despite public opinion shifting the govt. all but unconditionally supports Israel. It's too little too late, but at the same time it's a huge and taboo policy change. Like, only an ICJ ruling would be faster. Imo anyway
michiyl
Germany doesn't build or use nuclear submarines. You can get the most advanced diesel-electric submarines from Germany though.
tachyx
The US is all-in for genocide.
Howlingowl
Not really. The US is all in for financial profit. They just don’t care how much blood it’s soaked in.
FuzzyX
The US is already up to state ordained murder devoid of Court oversight.
anarchoFeline
that is true... I guess there would need to be some force needed to get the US to not be that easy tbf
dynamojoe
Trump wants a tower on prime land there. He'll get it.
BarryTheCyborg
I'd hope everyone that could would just use it as target practice.
TheGreyGryphon
Gaza is by no means prime land oh wait you mean for Israel ooooh...
4etherling
The oil offshore and I'm the land is what is prime, and make no mistake its will turn Gaza into a mega city.
TheGreyGryphon
What's most fucked is they could steal that oil and no one bats an eye but they gotta find a final solution to the Palestinians...
NKato
No point in it if he dies before it gets built.
SpamYarBlockers
He’s got heirs. The genetic dynasty wishes to continue
Pipetopo
Emphasis on nasty
NKato
They all aren't even good at real estate. Only Kushner.
sindail
Now do Taiwan
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
Taiwain is a dangerous precedens. You recognise that you give a pretex for every USA state, every Canadian province to seceede
BurnieCinders
and Tibet.
knivesthebrutal
Taiwan? Really? When there is an actual genocide happening IN China. I mean, yeah, but, prioritization?
myloveforyouislikeatruckberserker
Oh boy, that’s a much bigger fight. The kind that will leave us with sticks and stones I fear
TheBlueMuppet
Interesting how Taiwan "isnt a country" yet it gets different tariffs. Which is it, frump? Lol
clonedeeznuts
Palestinians just need to start building computer chips!
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
Hasn't that been the US' official position for decades? That Taiwan both exists and doesn't?
Nikolai5
That's the position of every western nation that trades with both China and Taiwan.
ClessAurion
So... all of them lol
Thajurriesexcuesed
Oh, is there genocide going on in Taiwan, right now???
Wikipedo
No, but the neighbouring country of China wants to take it over.
knivesthebrutal
Taiwan isn't a priority atm, side quest at best atm - can we talk about the actual genocide happening IN China that needs to be addressed instead? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China
Thajurriesexcuesed
You mean like Russia is currently doing with Ukraine? I understand your concerns. I really do. No one is dying in Taiwan. Mainland China needs Island China in one piece. Your most valuable resource is the people.
Shewy92
The pseudo truce they have now is in both the PROC's and the ROC's best interests imo.
AllMaktAtTengilVarBefriare
"Your most valuable resource is people" bud, people are the cheapest and most expendable resource to the Communist Chinese government.
SavageDrums
"Communist"
knivesthebrutal
Taiwan not priority atm, side quest at best atm - can we talk about the actual genocide happening IN China that needs to be addressed instead? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China