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This was my very first guitar, an Alvarez. It was flying the friendly skies with me, under the label of 'special handling', on a return flight from Montreal.
It never had a name. Eddard would be appropriate, if I were to name it now. I certainly didn't see it coming.
These punctures in the base of Ned essentially render the entire guitar unsalvageable, as they breach through to the inside.
My favorite photo of him and I. Taken sometime in early 2012, my senior year, and months before his watch was ended. United reps in my landing airport showed no sympathy when I presented them with Ned's remains and little more in terms of compensation (a small amount of credit towards another United flight.) I curtly told them where they could put their credit and told them to special handle my joy-pouch.
Thanks for the support, friends.
Having read many of the comments, I understand that it could have easily been my fault. It happened so long ago that I can't remember whether or not I loosened the strings.. but I probably didn't. It was, however, in a sturdier case than the one pictured. I only returned it to the original after the incident and there it's rested all these years.
The last photo was taken by my beautiful sister, Miranda. If you like it, then feel free to check out her instagram @mirandamcleroy
KeepToYourLane
Joe Dirt: You just said your sister's hot! What a fuhreak! You're goin' to hell man!
ChaosPersonified
This was a thing back in the day. The song is probably still on YouTube.
QuincyEndicott
I have that guitar, mine is named Ellie. I'm sorry for your loss @op.
zarkingphoton
Sure, two small holes makes your cheap guitar "unsalvageable." Yeahhhhh, tell that to Willie Nelson.
PigBenus
I too play an alvarez. Fuck United. They're good guitars brent
mbfisher
Did you slacken the strings off? Everything contracts when the hold gets cold
daMinz
My exact fear. I never fly with my instraments
lilpinkoctopuss
HEY GUYS LETS ALL ASK IF HE LOOSENED THE STRINGS FIRST
Sailermusic
http://imgur.com/Y5TuNc7 I have the same story, my favorite guitar.
IamTheBaron
You can always ask for cash and AFAIK, they have to provide it (check), you are not obligated to accept their vouchers
Drag0nF1RE
@op This is true! They offer the voucher first to see if you bite
ReadOnlyMemories
him and me*
nhamm7
Did you loosen the tension on the strings? If not, you are to blame. Guitar 101. Science
ChungoBungo1
What DOESN'T United break/damage? Is a puppy next?
RatoMolhado
Sorry for your loss, OP.
PizzaGovorun
Did the ticket come with any strings attached? I'll show myself out now...
raisler
I mean they break teeth too, so....
sixstringstrum
https://youtu.be/5YGc4zOqozo
Hotash
Came to post this! upvote instead
joejoe4games
same here... :D
maststick
Didn't someone write a book about exactly this
pudf
AND a song
NotShakespearesSchool
Yes, this is a frac'n book. And they put a hole in our jogging stroller too. They are the worse, and the fact they still exist is amazing
ncmetalguitar88
How in the hell do they get through the hard shell case, the body of the guitar, AND break all the strings? I have put my guitars...
ncmetalguitar88
Through hell, but the cases have always prevented any damage
soupisforwinners
Looks like the case was not hard shell but rather pleather. You can bend those cases with 5 lbs on top of them. I blame the owner.
ncmetalguitar88
Yea 2nd look, it does seem kinda wimpy of a case. I can stand on my case and hop without it caving in. Still, they had to do something...
ncmetalguitar88
Insanely destructive to do that much damage to a guitar.
NanoSwarmer
Sometimes luggage isn't secured properly, if it gets loose during the flight and the plane hits turbulence it can fuck shit up.
IceCreamButtholes
wiggle room in cases like that, yet the case from what we can see looks perfectly fine. Guarantee he didn't detune it and is blaming United.
IceCreamButtholes
They can bend but it should show SOME warping or damage if the tip was bent enough to destroy the headstock like that. There's a lot of
IceCreamButtholes
So you didn't loosen the strings? Temperature and pressure changes in transit can expand or contract the wood, which can cause the tight 1/3
whoputthebop
I'd be surprised if the contraction snapped the neck, but yeah, it doesn't seem to be handling.
IceCreamButtholes
strings to snap, or worse, break the neck or headstock. Breaking the entire headstock off without damaging the case reinforces this. 2/3
IceCreamButtholes
Source: worked as a luthier's assistant for two years at Chicago School of Guitar Building. This whole post is really iffy.
IceCreamButtholes
Also, the body punctures hardly make the guitar "unsalvagable". They can easily be patched and any internal damage repaired. 3/3
DinoQueenJoules
Did you detune your guitar before hand? Ive seen necks snap from change in altitude.
Landship
I was going to ask this. Something about the pressure change on a tensioned neck and strings
MrSkar
Most storage areas on planes get super cold, which causes the strings to constrict, snapping the neck. It's best to take them completely off
Landship
of course! Thanks. I detune my guitar except when I'm playing. with auto-tuners these days it's so much easier to tune again.
EneMeow
All cargo compartments are pressurized (speaking of transport planes), and share the circulated air from the cabin. So same temperature
StretchyJackson
Not all. Our rear cargo compartment isn't part of the enviro system and also doesn't have any heat. Instruments and animals will die.
DrSparken
They don't share the circulated air, but they have separate environmental controls, they're regularly used to transport high-priority 1/
DrSparken
cargo which means both needing to be able to freeze (fresh food and such) or very specifically not (anything that would be damaged), 2/
DrSparken
so they can do either depending on the flight's requirements. 3/3
Cruci
So United breaks Hispanics AND Asians. Got it.
Iwillneverhaveacakedayifikeepdeletingmyaccount
Alvarez, getting it. Haha
tutorp
United breaks everyone. Even themselves.
maststick
http://3gz8rn1ntxn33t9p221v8mlgtsq.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/united-breaks-guitars.png you are not the first
DixonHillPrivateEye
This is such a catchy song, too
memelordnito
I think OP was referencing that and wanted to show his own experience.
BlakMAgiCIAN
Anyway, here's wonderwall...
WhyleKat
If you're gonna do it, do it right https://imgur.com/EFyQLH6.jpg
lilpinkoctopuss
Why isn't this the top comment
CosplayComet
Maybe your guitar should have surrendered its seat the first time it was asked...
Twichy
CptRobotNinja
His guitar was a doctor if you must know
trippintherift
Actual anthropomorphized footage of the guitar.
CaptainTiddlemittens
the wonders of technology
Storm48
It refused to give up its seat.
TraitorousTrump3
And still it persisted.
GoatBastard
Dude, this guy lost a dear thing to him and you joke about this?
ajohn7211
Welcome to the internet
ThisLooksLikeAPenis
Considering it was never really funny to begin with..
soggybottoms3
RogiBear1990
Found the person who shouldn't be on the internet!!
DankS0uls
tommyfox69
People make these jokes about cheating, losing family members, 9/11. THIS surprises you?
GoatBastard
I understand, but this guy is in distress and as a musician myself an instrument (especially one this special) is very sad.
tommyfox69
Oh I understand, I also practice the musics. I'm just saying, people are ruthless; even if it's a bit harsh, it doesn't surprise me much.
GoatBastard
Yeah :p
IMissZach
@OP I'm curious what happened to the case. Was it also punctured and broken near the head?
Lexotron
Wrong kind of case for flying. OP's fault.
hitlershairydick
Don't know why you're downvoted. Anything not steel reinforced and welded shut won't survive flying...apparently.
SmileLines
What makes it the wrong kind of case? I'm genuinely curious and I don't play, so I don't know what makes a case good or bad.
Lexotron
Also, should have a lock in it.
theatomicjon
OP's case is a chipboard. It's on the cheaper end of cases you can buy. Flight cases are usually carbon fiber, and have way more support on
theatomicjon
And around the inside. Especially around the head/neck. OP's case has no support on the head/neck. And it looks like he didn't loosen his
theatomicjon
Strings before flying.
Lexotron
Think of a case like a bike helmet. Needs support/padding inside and a hard shell outside.
slackjaw90
There's flight cases, the black ones with metal bracings, but those are mostly used by professionals. This case should've protected better
Lexotron
This is the case the guitar came in, basically made from cardboard or thin plywood. They make "flight cases" to specifically prevent this.
thisisagoldfish
They make "flight cases" if you used one of those you would need an axe to breach it
DTownFunkyStuff
It's in a hard case this is not the wrong case for flying. The baggage handlers must've literally hurled it head first at a wall or somethin
Lexotron
Yes, because nothing ever shifts or moves in a plane full of unsecured luggage traveling at high speeds.
DTownFunkyStuff
Chill man
whoputthebop
Or something fell on it, or any manner of other things that simply happen. It's not a good hardcase if they could break it.
bswoboda06
looks like they made the mistake of leaving it tuned. The drastic air pressure changes of flying can pop the neck of ya don't de tune it.
BrayerIncognito
What dramatic air pressure change is this? The holds in most planes are pressurised the same as the cabin.
BrayerIncognito
A drop in temperature is more likely to cause the strings to tighten to the point of breaking a neck of a guitar.
slackjaw90
Yeah i second this.. Sturdy case like that, handlers would have to be TRYING to to actually damage it.
slackjaw90
Also, sorry for your loss OP.. Would hate to have that happen to one of mine.
gad885
Flying with a firearm we watched the baggage handlers throw the hard gun case on the ground from shoulder hight
IRMETUL
I don't think that's a very sturdy case... Lots of hardshell cases are weak. You want something actually good it's a few hundred bucks min
Lexotron
You can get good flight cases for around $75
slackjaw90
No argument here that flightcase would've been better. But that's a fucktonne of damage, like there was no case at all
IRMETUL
Who makes those?
slackjaw90
If you're in Europe, check Thomann
awkwardturtlesmakeweirdbabies
Gator cases
thebiggestblackestdick
My brother worked as a luggage handler for an airport in southern California. They had luggage throwing competitions.
rvleshrac
Your brother is a piece of shit.
thebiggestblackestdick
Totally
slackjaw90
Jesus christ, that's it! Never travelling with instruments ever
kepler20c
Generally a good idea, no one wants to hear a shitty cover of Wonderwall at 2AM when they're just getting that perfect buzz going.
Tminus1622d
Get a wooden crate, put it in that with a lot of packaging material and padding. The guitar case itself seems to have no padding whatsoever.
Tminus1622d
Well, ok, it's lined with something that looks soft, but that's not padding. Anything you ship that needs to stay whole, put it inside some-
Delta93
Check out what they did to this persons cello a few years ago.
Rengii
Tis' but a splinter.
Salmonthegreat
POOR CELLO! As a cellist, this makes me sad
itsahollyday2
As a non cellist who enjoys cello music, me too
HarryPotterReferenceProbably
Aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
solaslunas
oooooh if that was my cello i'd be in prison and United would have a new job opening... because i would kill someone.
DinoKebab
Meh, that'll buff out.
JustARandomKorean
sassynpretentious
That's why most cellists pay for the extra seat. Cause all airlines suck with instruments.
sassynpretentious
*professional cellists.
whoputthebop
Any cello worth flying with costs far more than any seat. Given potential temperature variances and even just shifting loads, buy a seat.
NachoManRandySalsa
Are you saying we should fly Delta?
Delta93
Haha, well played. I actually try for WestJet and Southwest whenever I can.
DeckhandAdmiral
Fuck southwest. Trash airline.
atliens27
I hate southwest
lolaluftnagel
I flew united once.they threw my bag & a nailpolish in it broke& got all over all my clothes.Had to toss all of it :/ shoulda dble bagged it
SpoopyHaunter
As someone that plays the cello...
Tirade
Violinist here, and I cringed. I should not have moused over that. Gore, I can handle. That... gyah...
Omnislash9
Fellow violinist high five! Gently! So we don't hurt our fingers!
Furryboots
How is that even possible?!
hitlershairydick
There were drugs inside.
raidleadergutts
We're talking about united here.
TheFlyingTrapezoid
Overbooking
SheogorathsBestPants
There is a weight limit to those cases. United apparently wanted to test the limit and exceeded it, repeatedly. Assholes.
Delta93
Baggage handlers throw the stuff on and off the plane. It's crazy the disregard that stuff is shown, even with handle with care/fragile tags
WhyleKat
It was a United flight then I assume their baggage handling is on par with their human handling. https://imgur.com/RQCav0h.gif
TresusIbor
JUST USE A FUCKING SLANTED GATE! It would cost less than that monstrosity!
EatenAtYou
It looks like it's in a hard case so somebody probably opened it and stop the s*** out of it
OneZebraInAHerdOfWildebeests
That's not a hard case. That shit is made with vinyl.
Furryboots
Rage- so much rage.
NobodySaysThings
As a cellist...
SmileLines
Holy crap!! Did they offer to pay for a replacement at least? That's awful.
RCProto
if by "replacement" you mean a $400 student cello, yes. the cellist had to basically beg for money from Facebook to continue their career.
NobodySaysThings
You're kidding...a student cello? A $400 student cello?
vampyrita
Ohh wow this makes my heart hurt. Thats a four- or five-digit instrument. There's a reason people buy seats for their instruments on flights
MischievousDango
Easily 5 digits
SolaireSB
It would probably be thrown off because of an "overbooking" issue
thezblah
Four or Five? Decent ones are Five or Six.
slickdickricktherockskippingchampionoftheworld
decent ones are not six figures exceptional ones are six to seven figures.
BusinessToast
I play cello, every time I fly I get nervous when I bring mine along.
Yanov
There's a reason United's website clearly states those transporting cellos should buy a seat for them and not put them in the hold.
Beelsebooob
I understand the frustration, but at the same time, people have to realise, there's nothing a ground handler can do that's worse than an 1/
Beelsebooob
aeroplane hitting turbulance. If you didn't pack it well enough for ground handlers fucking around, then you didn't pack it well enough 2/
Beelsebooob
for a plane at all. 3/3
DownvotesMakeMeMoist
Do you think that that pile of wood chips was caused by turbulence... Really? If turbulence can break a cello, it can break me.
Beelsebooob
Yeh, you do realize that it's not uncommon for people to be seriously injured in turbulence, right?
Beelsebooob
Also, cellos are *substantially* more fragile than humans.
STGxDante
Delta talking shit about united hmmm.
stormegedendarklordofall
How the hell do they break the cello but not the case?
Tukeybacon
Cello is wood the case is a hard plastic
stormegedendarklordofall
They would have to puncture the case though. There is not enough space for that to bounce around in.
doctorbees
Nice try, Delta.
Delta93
Haha, my username is after the AI in RvB, not after the airline. I can see where the mixup could happen though.
doctorbees
It was supposed to be a joke, Karen. *groan*
Delta93
And by years, I mean two months ago. Sorry folks!
thevehiclemagician
Why aren't you posting the link the the oc?
howmuchwoodwouldawoodchuckchuckifawoodchuckwaschucknorris
Suspicious username, there
KirchoffsVoltageLaw
I have a hard case on my cello and that survived 4 years of high school. How the heck
NanoSwarmer
fake news strikes again...
MexicanCokeIsDelicioso
Delta93 reporting false news about United? You don't say...
CorgiCircus
I may never trust again
Buckbeak1486
We're you strung along by that cello story?
TheManSpider
some people just need to cellout