They have it in so many languages! Part of me wonders if it is only the languages of whom it would be most pertinent to, such as their continental neighbors. Here is Korean written to show 진도 (Jeen Doe) which is the Korean word for "magnitude." You can read the "7" as "seven," but Koreans will read it as 일곱 (eel goeb).
This is educational ... I can imagine a US version where it's just kids going through active shooter scenarios, which would probably be emotionally distressing.
Nah, I think it exists in the US. A place to safely train people, particularly kids, for the dangers you may face out there in as realistic an environment as possible without getting hurt? Definitely exists. Some paintball places might even look like a school.
I was indoors when it happened so all I could focus on was praying the house didn't fall down. I was watching the water in the fish tank slosh around like crazy. Funny thing was I was dead asleep when it started. Fastest I've ever woken up!!
Meh, I have Experiencied a 8.8Earthquake, when i was working, in a Warehousem with the boxe falling from 20 to 25 meters high.The joys of living in a sismic country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Chile_earthquake
I remember feeling my first earthquake on that west coast. The person I was with was used to them and chilled me out but as a noob, holy hell is it unsettling.
The very ground shakes and moves. The ground is the one thing that SHOULDN'T move.
Oh I want to go there. We had a similar setup for Navy boot camp, though focused on disasters that happen on ships. It was pretty fun to go through. Though at the time it was very stressful.
I'm pretty sure Mythbusters tested the car under water thing. If I remember correctly, it's best to wait for the car to be completely submerged because the amount of pressure acting on the door is more spread out.
Friend of mine had such a lowered car that once it floated across a puddle XD We had to lift it onto the jack to change to winter tires (luckily it was only a honda civic).
Ok but the simple answer is YOU SHOULD NOT BE DRIVING A FLOODED ROAD AT ALL. Some cars have air intakes very low / poorly protected (water in the engine can cause terminal damage) and you can't see what's under the water (missing drain covers etc), plus as other comments say it takes VERY little water to wash a car away or make it float. Too many folks have died doing this.
also if the water is moving or not, for still water I know the manual in my truck says to not go above the wheel hubs. As once you start hitting the frame, its not that the frame cannot get wet and the engine intake is still high enough but you risk starting to float just enough the wheels no longer have traction.
You can make a 4x4 go into deeper water though, with a snorkel(for a proper setup you also have a taller exhaust to keep it above the water too). And very importantly the vehicle either weighted down or able to deliberately take on some water a sink. Naturally if there is current nothing is safe and always be aware you cannot see the condition of the roadway, there could be a bigass sinkhole.
And in some cases, it doesn't even take a flood for a car to lose traction. 'Hydroplaning' can happen just driving over a puddle at a high speed.
Somewhat related tip: when it's raining heavily and you're driving, keep a decent distance from the car in front of you. Your wipers will work much better and provide good visibility when another car isn't constantly flicking a bunch of water onto your windshield.
Hydroplaning is scary as shit. I've been a Canadian driver for over 20 years, hit plenty of black ice at speed, and the closest I've been to crashing was thanks to hydroplaning. Traction drops to nil. Way worse than ice.
Ah I didn't know the exact speed, I've just only had it happen when driving on the highway. The really shocking part is that the water doesn't have to be "deep" for it to happen
I'll throw in the second, secret, "black ice": wet leaves. They don't get talked about as much, they can't just get salted away, almost all of the time we tune out leaves on the ground, so many reasons we might not notice them. But, they can be quite a hazard, causing a slide, failure to stop, or other loss of control.
Flood warden here, do not go in the flood water. You might think you know the road/path but flood water hides a lot of things under the surface. You can get stranded in a moment.
Honest question: Should I find myself in a car surrounded by rising water (but on a road or something, so not like I'd be dragged to the sea), what would be the safest move? Simply to wait and hope the water won't go high enough?
If it rising Yr car will float awhile until it fills with water and sink your best bet is to eventually get on the roof until rescued or you are able to safely swim to safety.
I wasn't trained on that. The advice is don't go in, so if the water level is rising get away from that area before it becomes a problem like that for you. Flood wardens go and knock doors and put up signs when alerts and warnings are issued to make people aware before it gets to your hypothetical problem But 999 and ask for help if you had suddenly found yourself in that situation.
Something like this should be in like every major city, and depending on the place they need to adapt for most likely dangers in the region.
In London for instance a safe experience of being stabbed or something. Well. The problem would be in NY. If I believe movies, NY is like the epicentre for bloody every disaster ever.
UNFORTUNATELY, those are called unrealistic expectations. Don't get me wrong, I totally agree with you. But reality is they are not even fixing potholes in London with the money they should have to do so. So a state of the art prevention center like this Japanese one? Only in your dreams I'm afraid.
We need like a truck mounted version of this to tour around every city and school. Like being told this stuff 50 times as a kid will not be as effective as the shakey floor simulator.
Meanwhile in the US, Universal Studios in Florida made a ride out of how terrifying and fucked up a major Earthquake could be. You got in a little buggy and rode around while "almost" dying.
I remember when I was a kid the fire department had a "mini house" they would drive around to schools and show kids what to do if a fire happened. Considering earthquakes, hurricanes or twisters weren't a threat I don't think the other things would be as necessary.
See, the stabbing part could be a selling point. Suit everyone up in mail and then have at it. Then, when they're done with that, they can go next door for some medieval UFC or some such. Win-win.
I have a daughter in Tokyo right now with Asperger’s and EXTREME paranoia about natural disasters. Do you think something like this would help her or make it worse?
My therapist way back would suggest it in a similar way: having to confront your fears, even a little, is what helped me bit by bit. I couldn't be around people for too long or i would shut down and now i work in IT as a supporter with a smile on my face so it works! Just need to find the right people and talk
I actually think it would help. The main thing is you don’t know what to expect. Once you live through something like that in a safe environment you can figure out what you actually can do. And Asperger’s will actually help her. “Okay I know shit might hit the fan, but I know how this feels so I don’t have to panic and move on to productive stuff like taking cover climbing the tree opening the car door in time” you know?
And before anyone hits me with “you don’t know how it feels” yeah I -suspect- I have something similar to Aspy, but may be not to the extreme extent that some people do. A friend actually is full on and I feel I am -suuuuuuper- similar to him in many ways including feelings and masking
It would depend on what her paranoia about it is- fear of the unknown vs fear of the known? Maybe, with a framing of “let’s go experience this in a safe setting, and then you can plan around actual experience of what to expect instead of amorphous fears”? But if the experience just reinforces “I’m screwed and helpless” then probably not.
Yeah. As we all are. Hence my thought of having it in every region/city. Once you know what it feels like it’s less terrifying. And once it’s less terrifying you can actually do something about it and not be paralysed.
Are we still massively overstating the knife crime problem in London as part of an absolutely-not-remotely-subtle fallen-cities narrative because it's currently run by a muslim mayor?
Eh. Probably. I did get cut a couple of years ago. Not in London but in a town close to it. It’s a stereotype, though, which is why it was put outside of the serious part.
I'm not sure if you're trying to make a joke, but Joe the Stabber was a man from Skid Row, not the UK.
The UK has a reputation for knife crime, because they don't really have a gun crime problem. So what gets reported are the knife attacks, and they stay in the news longer, making it seem more prevalent.
No we're making fun of London for the lols without hidden agendas that only chronically online people even think about. Likewise, in Sweden we bully Borås for no reason, fuck Borås.
"Only chronically online people", OK mate. You can just say you're unfamiliar with the massive Islamophobia that gets thrown around Khan by conservatives.
MonkeyFunkingFunker
I slept through a 6.4 earthquake: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Dodecanese_earthquake Would have not known how to react if I was awake.
pr3viso
Do California next
ShieldAnvil1
THIS IS AWESOME!
pianostacatto
They have it in so many languages! Part of me wonders if it is only the languages of whom it would be most pertinent to, such as their continental neighbors. Here is Korean written to show 진도 (Jeen Doe) which is the Korean word for "magnitude." You can read the "7" as "seven," but Koreans will read it as 일곱 (eel goeb).
DummyThiccStealyBoi
I mean it's Japan. You can also just go outside and wait for one of those things to happen.
BarderBetterFasterStronger
Can you imagine this in the US? Funding public safety initiatives?
sometimesifeellikeanut
This is educational ... I can imagine a US version where it's just kids going through active shooter scenarios, which would probably be emotionally distressing.
Manhoarder
Wonder if american version would just be BB gun fights. I'd say lasertag but that one is too mild.
muchosnuggles
Oh shit, I am not prepared for natural disasters in Japan at all! Still on the first step, go to Japan.
thegraphiteknight
This is a fantastic idea!
tcpolecat7
Interesting idea, but I feel like adrenaline junkies would treat it like a thrill ride....
jj86
In the US, this kind of training would be banned because it goes against the will of God.
Chronomechanist
Nah, I think it exists in the US. A place to safely train people, particularly kids, for the dangers you may face out there in as realistic an environment as possible without getting hurt? Definitely exists. Some paintball places might even look like a school.
ThailandExpress
This place would make a great sex dungeon
ILike2TouchButts
Chill diddy.
OnFridaysWeWearBeskar
No Kaiju attack simulators?
baldbear
They don't have to simulate Kaiju attacks. They experienced them just lately.
billymaditsdone
I get jealous as an American seeing all these advancements and services in other countries.
Drix1942
I was in Japan in August, and one day it rained so hard it reminds me of this.
Rasayana
I beilive that Don Rosa (or Carl Barks?) got a lot of his exaggerations from Mark Twain.
DMDaddy0
I got to experience what an 8.0 felt like when I lived in Alaska. It was terrifying.
iusedtodream
Same. The noise was the wildest part for me. The earth was growling! It was so deep and so loud. The shaking was scary, but that sound haunts me.
DMDaddy0
I was indoors when it happened so all I could focus on was praying the house didn't fall down. I was watching the water in the fish tank slosh around like crazy. Funny thing was I was dead asleep when it started. Fastest I've ever woken up!!
Lenwe
Meh, I have Experiencied a 8.8Earthquake, when i was working, in a Warehousem with the boxe falling from 20 to 25 meters high.The joys of living in a sismic country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Chile_earthquake
SteerpikeSteerpike
I remember feeling my first earthquake on that west coast. The person I was with was used to them and chilled me out but as a noob, holy hell is it unsettling.

The very ground shakes and moves. The ground is the one thing that SHOULDN'T move.
SilverNicktail
I've only felt one since I moved to Best Coast, very short and sweet. It was bloody weird, just a wave of vibration that went vertically up the house.
hsalonen3000
I was in Vienna / Bratislava couple weeks ago and experienced heavy winds and strong winds. Was not nice.
Poppypoppoppop
What a field trip! And I may or may not go full LEROY JENKINS for the escaping part of this experience
Cranbananarama
I'm alright with this idea. It's good to have training or experience with disasters so you can react in the real deals.
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FeIineDisrespectFromBehind
They aren't necessary there.
alcaray
I would have loved this as a kid. Still would, but I would have then too.
TheFastpaws
That is actually pretty nifty!
spacepuppiesweed
Oh I want to go there. We had a similar setup for Navy boot camp, though focused on disasters that happen on ships. It was pretty fun to go through. Though at the time it was very stressful.
rfleming1080
I'm pretty sure Mythbusters tested the car under water thing. If I remember correctly, it's best to wait for the car to be completely submerged because the amount of pressure acting on the door is more spread out.
kholli
That's a neat idea
HandoB4Javert
Shooken.
ShoofNuffin
Not that I'm complaining mind you but what does the pupper have to do with natural disasters?
HandoB4Javert
Search and rescue training?
ThatGuyWhoIsSkepticalOfEverything
That damn smile
NLOVNI
Is there one for religion?
UnhelpfulAnswers
NLOVNI
ScienceIsNotALiberalConspiracy
They don't even have one for a nuclear attack.
NLOVNI
SolidDoc
We had one in school where we had to hide underneath the desk
ParallelParkingInABurka
Awesome! Also, when driving on a flooded road, be aware that it takes MUCH less water than you'd think for your car to lose traction & float away!
ronnyhugo
Friend of mine had such a lowered car that once it floated across a puddle XD We had to lift it onto the jack to change to winter tires (luckily it was only a honda civic).
johnvictor
You should try to avoid driving in water that goes to the hubcap essentially.
tooomanystevesgotbanned
Not to mention that the air intake for many cars is at the bottom of the engine. Suck in water and your car is totalled via hydro-locking.
barnwolf
You just gotta be going fast enough to hydroplane to the otherside! /s
JinButOnHisPhone
Ok but the simple answer is YOU SHOULD NOT BE DRIVING A FLOODED ROAD AT ALL. Some cars have air intakes very low / poorly protected (water in the engine can cause terminal damage) and you can't see what's under the water (missing drain covers etc), plus as other comments say it takes VERY little water to wash a car away or make it float. Too many folks have died doing this.
XSurvivor
Case in point: the flooded highways in Montreal this summer https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/record-breaking-rainfall-wreaks-havoc-on-montreal-roads-1.6958647
Filanwizard
also if the water is moving or not, for still water I know the manual in my truck says to not go above the wheel hubs. As once you start hitting the frame, its not that the frame cannot get wet and the engine intake is still high enough but you risk starting to float just enough the wheels no longer have traction.
JinButOnHisPhone
Also the belts etc. on the engine fling water over everything, and your ECU could be low down or vulnerable.
Filanwizard
You can make a 4x4 go into deeper water though, with a snorkel(for a proper setup you also have a taller exhaust to keep it above the water too). And very importantly the vehicle either weighted down or able to deliberately take on some water a sink. Naturally if there is current nothing is safe and always be aware you cannot see the condition of the roadway, there could be a bigass sinkhole.
MangoDangBro
And in some cases, it doesn't even take a flood for a car to lose traction. 'Hydroplaning' can happen just driving over a puddle at a high speed.
Somewhat related tip: when it's raining heavily and you're driving, keep a decent distance from the car in front of you. Your wipers will work much better and provide good visibility when another car isn't constantly flicking a bunch of water onto your windshield.
DaveTheScientist
Hydroplaning is scary as shit. I've been a Canadian driver for over 20 years, hit plenty of black ice at speed, and the closest I've been to crashing was thanks to hydroplaning. Traction drops to nil. Way worse than ice.
SmoeAhsolse
The high speed for hydroplaning isn't even very high. Around 35mph/56kph.
MangoDangBro
Ah I didn't know the exact speed, I've just only had it happen when driving on the highway. The really shocking part is that the water doesn't have to be "deep" for it to happen
SmoeAhsolse
Also an important point.
I'll throw in the second, secret, "black ice": wet leaves. They don't get talked about as much, they can't just get salted away, almost all of the time we tune out leaves on the ground, so many reasons we might not notice them. But, they can be quite a hazard, causing a slide, failure to stop, or other loss of control.
melni
Flood warden here, do not go in the flood water. You might think you know the road/path but flood water hides a lot of things under the surface. You can get stranded in a moment.
ElusiveThing
Honest question: Should I find myself in a car surrounded by rising water (but on a road or something, so not like I'd be dragged to the sea), what would be the safest move? Simply to wait and hope the water won't go high enough?
aurifex
If it rising Yr car will float awhile until it fills with water and sink your best bet is to eventually get on the roof until rescued or you are able to safely swim to safety.
melni
I wasn't trained on that. The advice is don't go in, so if the water level is rising get away from that area before it becomes a problem like that for you. Flood wardens go and knock doors and put up signs when alerts and warnings are issued to make people aware before it gets to your hypothetical problem
But 999 and ask for help if you had suddenly found yourself in that situation.
anicharn
Something like this should be in like every major city, and depending on the place they need to adapt for most likely dangers in the region.
In London for instance a safe experience of being stabbed or something. Well. The problem would be in NY. If I believe movies, NY is like the epicentre for bloody every disaster ever.
BEARD3DBEANIEE
London = dodging acid thrown in your face by moped drivers stealing your phone.
eadanke
Would they also simulate super hero rescues along with these disasters?
stuierae
New York should simulate low-flying Airliners
baldbear
OOOOH!
BreakablePotato
Not sure how to simulate the Avengers chucking my car.
Zeboku
They already have that in NY. It's called the streets. ... okay maybe not so much a safe experience
celestedrake
Also think there should be similar for problems with cars. What does a flat tire feel like and similar.
TripleDane
Well in the US maybe school shooting themed? Considering it a comparable likely hood of a kid dying from those as of earth quakes
Poppypoppoppop
UNFORTUNATELY, those are called unrealistic expectations. Don't get me wrong, I totally agree with you. But reality is they are not even fixing potholes in London with the money they should have to do so. So a state of the art prevention center like this Japanese one? Only in your dreams I'm afraid.
anicharn
Man can dream, no?
Poppypoppoppop
Y e s
mikeatike
We need like a truck mounted version of this to tour around every city and school. Like being told this stuff 50 times as a kid will not be as effective as the shakey floor simulator.
farfie
Stabbings and spontaneous fires that burn entire apartment buildings down.
ScootiePuffJrSucks
New York gonna need an anthrax simulator and an Ultron section.
Raecracy123abc
Meanwhile in the US, Universal Studios in Florida made a ride out of how terrifying and fucked up a major Earthquake could be. You got in a little buggy and rode around while "almost" dying.
Raecracy123abc
....for funsies
L4t3xs
Helsinki would probably have one to simulate Russian invasion I guess.
thematman92
I remember when I was a kid the fire department had a "mini house" they would drive around to schools and show kids what to do if a fire happened. Considering earthquakes, hurricanes or twisters weren't a threat I don't think the other things would be as necessary.
OkButWhyWereTheyFilming
To simulate the dangers of NYC, they just put you in a room with a bunch of NYPD
Aeolys
Sounds like this costs serious money.
LespritDeLescalier22
In NY they could also prepare you for The Corner Screamers. Don’t make eye contact, don’t look up, don’t engage.
Kodan00
GendouLovesDucklings
See, I know you meant those guys who stand on street corners yelling about conspiracy theories.
But I visualized a random person standing in your apartment corner just screaming wordlessly.
ComicSansHumor
It's half-way between that in these parts. They just stand at the corners screaming wordlessly or plain obscenities.
Steps1000
LespritDeLescalier22
Ever been screamed at by a Corner Screamer? I went on a field trip to NY when I was 12, and made the mistake of making eye contact. Never again.
Steps1000
That is not a phenomenon I've ever encountered, no. Sounds...interesting.
beemarr
See, the stabbing part could be a selling point. Suit everyone up in mail and then have at it. Then, when they're done with that, they can go next door for some medieval UFC or some such. Win-win.
tooomanystevesgotbanned
Ditto!
I don't know if it still exists, but in Perth (Western Australia) there was one like that just for house fires.
anicharn
Oh that’s awesome! I really think it’s a. Great idea that can help tons of people!
TankTrain
Mate, I'm pretty sure that was just a house on fire.
Aksuuuh
How do you simulate a drop bear attack?
SuperLuminalMan
No amount of training or preparation will save you.
casinodoug
Just borrow a bear. From the woods or the local gay bar. Just make sure to ask first.
OnePostCloserToAHappierLIfe
"Drop bear" shaped pillow. The claws are low intensity tasers.
Canadoug
Drop a bear on them, easy.
tooomanystevesgotbanned
Drop a running lawnmower from the ceiling?
ILike2TouchButts
SedatedSl0th
I fear this will go underrated.
ILike2TouchButts
Thank you for noticing me. 😆
Dociousaliexpilisticfragicalirepus
I have a daughter in Tokyo right now with Asperger’s and EXTREME paranoia about natural disasters. Do you think something like this would help her or make it worse?
Kingsway
My therapist way back would suggest it in a similar way: having to confront your fears, even a little, is what helped me bit by bit.
I couldn't be around people for too long or i would shut down and now i work in IT as a supporter with a smile on my face so it works! Just need to find the right people and talk
anicharn
I actually think it would help. The main thing is you don’t know what to expect. Once you live through something like that in a safe environment you can figure out what you actually can do. And Asperger’s will actually help her. “Okay I know shit might hit the fan, but I know how this feels so I don’t have to panic and move on to productive stuff like taking cover climbing the tree opening the car door in time” you know?
anicharn
And before anyone hits me with “you don’t know how it feels” yeah I -suspect- I have something similar to Aspy, but may be not to the extreme extent that some people do. A friend actually is full on and I feel I am -suuuuuuper- similar to him in many ways including feelings and masking
Dociousaliexpilisticfragicalirepus
This was my thought. Thank you.
Meebers
It would depend on what her paranoia about it is- fear of the unknown vs fear of the known? Maybe, with a framing of “let’s go experience this in a safe setting, and then you can plan around actual experience of what to expect instead of amorphous fears”? But if the experience just reinforces “I’m screwed and helpless” then probably not.
Dociousaliexpilisticfragicalirepus
She’s just terrified of the unknown and dying. Her mind makes up the worst possible a scenarios.
anicharn
Yeah. As we all are. Hence my thought of having it in every region/city. Once you know what it feels like it’s less terrifying. And once it’s less terrifying you can actually do something about it and not be paralysed.
Dociousaliexpilisticfragicalirepus
Agreed. Will encouraging her.
DaveTheScientist
Anxiety is truly a bastard.
SilverNicktail
Are we still massively overstating the knife crime problem in London as part of an absolutely-not-remotely-subtle fallen-cities narrative because it's currently run by a muslim mayor?
anicharn
Eh. Probably. I did get cut a couple of years ago. Not in London but in a town close to it. It’s a stereotype, though, which is why it was put outside of the serious part.
dmcdo8918
London has had a stereotype of people getting stabbed long long before they ever had a Muslim mayor.
LaffertyDanie1
Oh yea that Joe the Stabber guy
dmcdo8918
I'm not sure if you're trying to make a joke, but Joe the Stabber was a man from Skid Row, not the UK.
The UK has a reputation for knife crime, because they don't really have a gun crime problem. So what gets reported are the knife attacks, and they stay in the news longer, making it seem more prevalent.
LaffertyDanie1
I actually had no clue there was a real Joe the Stabber so til I was attempting a joke about Jack the Ripper
AllMaktAtTengilVarBefriare
No we're making fun of London for the lols without hidden agendas that only chronically online people even think about. Likewise, in Sweden we bully Borås for no reason, fuck Borås.
SilverNicktail
"Only chronically online people", OK mate. You can just say you're unfamiliar with the massive Islamophobia that gets thrown around Khan by conservatives.