Iblamemyparentstoo
14315
763
6
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/03/04/ontario-canada-tariff-retaliation-energy-states/81350351007/
It sucks that decent people who didn't vote for trump have to pay the price for his incompetence.
gingen
As a Minnesotan, I understand but also....This makes me really sad and I dread it ;-;
spirz
Hope he's ready to go scorched earth in case rump decides to do you-know-what
bripi
GOOD. Fucking do it. Let them feel the pain of their choices. Perhaps they might better choices in the future....
DarkTheme439
That's a sacrifice I am willing to make.
2B4UALL
heerobya
Even if Canada turns off my lights (Michigan) - I’ll still support them and will just fight Trumpism fascism in the dark 300 style
Hexidimentional
He wont do it, I have zero faith in doug ford to keep his word on anything, he'll make some backroom deal with trump and fuck us all over like he's been doing with everything else.
countbassy
Do it. Maybe trump will send his 1/6 “patriots” to “peacefully protest”. Except this time they won’t get pardoned
LanceSackless
Reminder: ford was a trump fan before this. Cheeto happily is turning people who like him against him
eprankster
If Ford completely stops the flow of energy to the US, I believe that Trump will call it a national security violation and send troops into Southern Ontario via Niagara Falls and Windsor. We'll see. At this point there are no more limits to what Fascist USA will do.
Atlasguitar
Please do it! The chaos will kick our asses into high gear. Thank you to all Canadians for standing up for what's right!
Baelnorn
It's giving me a very strong case of whiplash seeing people post about Doug Ford in a positive light.
confracto
yeah, stopped clock.
HassyWan
As a Canadian and Ontarioan, I don’t really like this idea of cutting off electricity. The only people it’s harming are the regular American citizens and I think we’d be effecting Blue states who are aligned with us politically and would just be fuel for Trump to act against us more than he already has.
enderite
Fucken do it. See how quick to anger and action an idiot American is without their phones to distract them.
BasinStreetDesign
"...decent people who didn't vote for trump have to pay the price for his incompetence." THEN MAKE SURE trump KNOWS IT
CallMeMcGyver
How about doing something that fucks over red states not blue ones.
CanITroubleYouForAWarmGlassOfSHUTTHEHELLUP
As a Minnesotan, just let us become a province, Canada!
IHaveAPetTReX
SexyToasterArt
I've never seen anything like it, a president so bad that in less than 2 months in power and another country is deadly serious about literally turning off their electric power. It's a powerful statement.
CanadianCobraChicken
One of the worst parts of these tariffs is that it makes Ford here look like a competent leader. Damn.
BigVag
Ok sure. But I don't think Trump cares unless his base starts to waiver
oukid
The most effective resistance to Trump is coming from countries that are not the USA.
Megamastermetamememaker
So true. Americans just sitting there like...oh, shit, let's make a cool meme.
VentricularAnomaly
I don’t like Ford, never have, and I never thought I would agree with him on anything. Well, I’m big enough to say I think he’s doing a remarkably good job with this shit show. I think Ford might be similar Churchill during WWII - maybe he’s not the best leader around, and some of his politics are downright dangerous, but in a conflict he’s a powerhouse, and that’s what you need during a conflict.
confracto
frustratingly, this, yeah.
Hexidimentional
It remains to be seen if Ford is actually going to do it or if he's just saber rattling. He's got a loing history of promising one thing to appease us and then doing something entirely different that's selfish
PoliticalWanderer
It's sad that this will probably make Ford more popular, since he deserves to be kicked right out of government.
aviselafin211
The voters of Ontario seem to differ. Three times they sent him to Queen's Park, every time with a majority. I mean, even the constituents who live in the 'Green Belt" voted for his party.
GharStuff
That's the truth. Our conservatives have a low bar to clear right now. The "Don't lick Trump's boots" bar.
Niagaran
He won a majority election just days ago so popularity this week isn't a big concern.
He's corrupt, sure but, on this point, I'll agree with him.
azzabat
IMHO the “Decent” people are just the 30% of voters who actually voted against Trump (32%).
The other 70% who either voted for him (32%) or didn’t vote at all (36%) are equally to blame for the U.S.’s current and future troubles.
https://election.lab.ufl.edu/2024-general-election-turnout/
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Although lots of people are standing aside and watching as Trump dismantles their govt and attacks allies. Doing nothing supports the oppressor, always.
GlacialFlour
Not your opinion. That is fact.
xizar
Going to hedge this with the 25% of *all* americans that are under 18. They can't vote. Literal innocents (with skyrocketing poverty).
BionicRagdoll
OhIfIMust
myotheralt
ontarioOT
"Canadian province leader" because their readers are too stupid to know what a "Premier" is.
timewizardtreats
You’re a nice guy eh ? Fuck me. What are you too stupid to know? You’re the worst kind of person, shaming people who make it easy for others to understand without context. Go shit in your hat.
WaxMySack
Do you think they can read? Bold claim.
heyletsbefriends
its when they show a movie for the first time. having knowledge != intelligence.
Everyonesfavorite
As an American, we generally aren't taught anything about other governments than a 3-4 sentence summary. And for me, that was 35 years ago.
mormacil
Well as a European I'd be confused to because I only ever seen Premier used in the context of a national leader not a provincial one.
graehall
prolly scratching their heads at the word "province" too
ToSisPoS
Journalism 101. A title or term your core readership is unfamiliar with needs to be defined quickly.
ontarioOT
They defined it twice before they used it, though. That's the opposite.
ToSisPoS
Well yes. I never said they did it right.
ByJoveByJingle
I’m just glad Cheeto has given Canadians the excuse to stop pretending they are universally well-mannered and nice people.
sheebalasvegas
difference between being nice and being a doormat
GiveYourBallsATug69
There's no pretense, we are nice. But nice people don't let others walk all over them and threaten/bully them into submission. Niceness goes both ways.
ontarioOT
We generally are, until someone fucks with us.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Nice doesn't mean just accepting it when someone attacks you over and over. I'm Canadian and most Canadians are nice. I work with both Americans and Canadians, and the Americans always comment on it. And it's not an act, that's just culturally how we are. But it doesn't mean you have to be a doormat.
ThatHurts
Well, Ol' Donny Diapers keeps calling our Prime Minister "Governor", so, fuck knows what people understand anymore.
sheebalasvegas
and Trudeau government named him and called him Donald hehhe
Everyonesfavorite
He is calling fElon "daddy" so there's that.
Hexidimentional
Ironically we have a position called Govenor and its a higher position than Trudeau holds anyway Govenor General.
bikergeek6249
That's on purpose. A "Governor" is someone who runs a state, and he's talking like Canada is already the 51st state.
ArthurT
RebubliKKKians would live under a bridge...
ArthurT
Grifters, con men, liars, cheats, and shit-stains.
ArthurT
Every RebubliKKKian congress-woman...
ArthurT
Except for MTG, because shit comes out of her mouth.
ArthurT
She did NOTHING, and got nothing for it.
Smidge204
As a New Yorker, who is one of those states; do it. Sadly this will mostly impact blue states, but there's plenty of red counties here.
haIucid
I’m also in NY and I’m so ready for it. We stocked up on candles, batteries, non perishables, etc. already in preparation for this. DO IT!!
joshuasplinth
I agree. Floridian here. I hope the world doesn’t drink another drop of orange juice. Ha! That’s a double-entendre!
catsnroombas
As an unaffected state I can't make the dare for others in good conscience. As an american patriot looking at what this government is doing to my country, I vote we go full "here's your fucking canoe."
Cloudypoona
Long island and upstate
Fynndango
As a Michigander, I'm also onboard. Fuck it up, Canada.
Stolf
Sad reality is, majority of people will do fuck all unless directly effected. Voter turnout, or lack there of, proves that. Until vast amounts of people really start feeling the pain, nothing will change. If this happens, let it be the first bell toll
joshuasplinth
Good I hope so. Price of living is about to explode.
mehimbored
As someone in a red state, I wish this was affecting red states as opposed to mostly blue ones.
foozlewastaken
Not sure how the grid in the US works, though I can imagine team bilionaire is adamant on having Wall Street and the financial district of New York up and running and available power would be re-routed for that, if possible.
ilovebigmutts
Cut it all off and your power grid on the eastern seaboard would collapse.
foreverinchains
Our power grid would be just fine, buddy. He's talking about cutting off the power we send across the border, not turning off the generators.
ilovebigmutts
Why would we stop producing, just stop supplying. They can't make enough on their own. That's why it would collapse. Oh and I'm not your buddy, chum.
Sibbykins
Do it. Make them suffer. He and his followers deserve it. Most people can survive without power. Maybe, just *maybe* an action like that would make them open their eyes.
bububub2
Most of his followers aren't located there.
ILogInToUpvote
As a Minnesotan, do it. We're blue, but it was like 51/47 split, hardly a landslide. We've got a ton of red, and I still see trump flags flying when I drive around.
springer57
Minnesotan here too. I will say, I'm seeing fewer. Not that that helps anything, but maybe there's some shame and embarrassment starting to filter in.
DrFartGood
Just remember that most of the houses not flying flags are on your side.
ILogInToUpvote
Just remember 51/47 split, they don't need to fly the flag to want to destroy the country. 1.5 million MN voters wanted to watch the country burn.
DrFartGood
Yeah but most people didn’t and it’s important to remember that.
HandoB4Javert
The thing with it, is don cheeto wants to show 'strength' to daddy vladdy by showing how clever he is.
Most people who can understand the practical impact of tarrifs, know the consequences will be annoying to unpleasant but have to happen otherwise the slide into full fascism will continue.
johnvictor
The people we really need to be affected and then do something about it are the apathetic, the ones who didn't vote. Their opinion really does matter and moves things, so we can't just go out guns blazing now because we'd be seen as the aggressors, labeled terrorists, and that's it. We have to have the fascists show their hand first, and hard that it hurts the apathetic, then we can convince them.
Smidge204
Nah I don't think it's that complicated. If Putin is involved at all he's prompting TCG to sow chaos. I think TCG is just a moron who genuinely thinks a trade war will bring jobs to the US.
Krakencrotch
I don't know what TCG used to stand for, but from now on it's The Cum Gargler.
foreverinchains
It seems more likely that the whole tariff thing was meant to briefly tank the stock market so a handful of rich assholes could make a huge profit.
Smidge204
I don't know about "more likely" - certainly people have taken advantage of it, but we know 100% that this is the kind of bullshit TCG does just for its own sake.
EndlingGer
It really saddens me that the best course of action for the rest of the world seems to be to make all Americans life as miserable as possible to the point of threatening their existence and they are forced to decide for either their own survival or the regime’s.
Troldann
It seems only fair after we’ve used economic sanctions against our economic rivals for so long.
Tengenstein
Has forever been a weakness of democracy. Every idiot gets to vote.
Pseudobatrachotoxin
Please, don’t let your empathy for the non-cancerous Americans make you stop the treatment. You can help our cause by cutting us off - the more we suffer and the sooner it happens, the faster it will drive a wedge between his base and TFG, and we’ll acquire the defectors, or at least remove them from the fight. Fuck us up with sanctions and tariffs. Continue the full-court press.
philmoregraves
As a miserable ass American if you're not on the trump train your existence is already threatened. I say fucking do it. Gotta send the message about how alliances are good, and you shouldn't alienate your allies. Let us know trump did it, and things can only get worse on his path
70ikketje2000
So lemme get this straight. Now the rest of the world is to blame for getting Mr Tariff in the White House? Really??
EndlingGer
Uhm, no.
PwnageHobo
Trump continues to prove himself to be a threat to global peace and human survival. So, yes. Any action taken against him more or less boils down to self defense, IMO
bripi
After the last election, we kind of deserve it. We had a fantastic candidate with awesome credentials who had fantastic public presentation.... and the "good guys" didn't get it. Probably a hundred different reasons given, but none of them ameliorates the fact that a FELON won the US election.
cunninlinguist
It is unfortunately the only course of action we have, don't take it personally unless you voted for him, or are not doing anything to remove him.
andsy
I agree. it is sad that you Americans let things go so far that the rest of the world are considering these extreme measures. You should have put a stop to this bullshit a long time ago.
andsy
Sorry. Didn’t mean it to sound like a personal attack :) just wanted to alter the phrasing for emphasis that this has been allowed to go waaaay too far already :)
imakebuns
My American friends didn't vote for him but are very very quiet. They don't want to rock the boat. Basically Democrats are frozen in fear of the bully. I'm ashamed of them tbh. I thought better of them. I'll will learn from their passivism and be loud and vocal of my country and protect my amazing nation!! Elbows up!!
veesee
It really saddens me that a majority of Americans best course of action was to vote in a racist asshole to threaten the existence and survival of good people in their own country. But here we are, you complaining about the rest of the world and taking no responsibility (specifically in this comment) for why the rest of the world is doing this and the rest of the world watching.
Cronos51101
We choose to buy energy from a friendly nation because it was mutually beneficial. Now we're not friendly, they're simply ending the deal.
iceynyo
This deal's getting worse all the time!
crispyraccoon
That's the Art of the Deal!
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
What's the alternative?
EndlingGer
Coup.
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
People suffer either way.
foreverinchains
People are suffering. The question is how much will people suffer in the long term.
darkrob13
Those who do nothing other than complain on their phones (not aimed at you) support the regime. Get out there and shut the country down until they listen. Past generations took to the streets. This generation gives thumbs up and unhappy emojis.
Democracy will die by the flickering light of a cell phone.
peedrinkingcrapface
when you compare the life experiences and living standards of the current generations to the revolutionary generations of the past, you find opposite ends of a spectrum. violence, deprivation, and hardship were defining aspects of their lives, and this colored their interaction with just about everything, especially politics.
we have to ask ourselves if this "take to the streets" expectation of revolution - for all its bricks and molotovs - isn't just the ghost of a bygone era.
darkrob13
I'm not talking at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. Your parents and grandparents generations.
The 60's and 70's. Movements, marches, protests... change.
Complaining on the phone does nothing, we all know that.
You want change? Force it or it'll never happen.
darkrob13
And I do agree with what you wrote.
It's just very frustrating because, as I'm not American, there's little I can do.
my2micmacs
I'm a disabled American and can barely walk, but I guarantee if someone in my dinkass town or area was to organize a protest against that orange pile of shit and the ones with their heads up his ass, come hell or high water, I would most definitely do whatever it takes to show up and participate in that protest. I probably would be one of the loudest! I didn't vote for him and there's not a lot I can do otherwise, but what there is for me to do, I will give it my utmost.
Malibloo
As a European, every American is now part of the leopard eating face party, because those who voted clearly didn't do enough either. Still aren't. Fucking end this shit already before it's too late.
veesee
This guy's comment reeks of poor America and I've run out of sympathy
masteryoplait
I say to Europe please stay strong and democratic until we get our shit together. I had 2 liberal friends who voted for trump and 3rd party bc they were convinced Biden single-handedly ‘genocided’ Gaza. Media mogul & tech Bros oligarchs have poisoned all news. Even social sites like this are affected. Stay strong EU!
HelikaformerNubisKnight9
And please stay strong dear democratic voters in the US! You'll suffer as bad we in Europe/EU and the MAGAheads in the US are armed to the teeth! At least the Nazis here mostly don't have this kind of weapons.
masteryoplait
As a democratic gun owner I believe the right wing gun talk is just meant to scare us. It is a fantasy to think a civil war could ever happen. Although I have seen a giant uptick in democrats buying guns since the 1st trump administration. Rural democrats have as much of a gun culture as republicans. A few inner cities make buying guns difficult but from suburbs out it is pretty easy to purchase guns anywhere. Sure states like mine New York made me take an 18 hour class to apply for a permit but
masteryoplait
that’s only for a pistol; I could just go out and buy a hunting rifle or a shotgun like you would buy a six pack of beer. The talk of civil war like of ww3 is just a scare tactic. Like nazi uniforms, it’s a facade of these weak men trying to intimidate. Give me 3 teens from Philly any day:
OhIfIMust
Had…
masteryoplait
I love them but they have noticed that I’m avoiding speaking about politics now that they’re acting surprised about trump.
AnonOmis1000
The fuck else did you want us to do?
Malibloo
Than just voting? You want a list of possibilities, or are you that American? Do you even know how your fucking country started existing? Why it continued to exist? Why it was once considered to be the greatest?
Iblamemyparentstoo
They chose violence
xizar
Didn't we effectively declare war on Denmark and Panama last night?
cyankitsune
Trump said so in his usual double-speak way, yes - but the US President cannot declare war on another country arbitrarily, it has to be (and only can be) done through the Senate.
Now, whether he decides that's not necessary is another question...
odigon
The senate and everyone else are completely compliant, he can do whatever he wants.
xizar
The last time congress declared war was WWII. Hasn't stopped shit. We just have "continuing authorizations to use military force".
Ingellvar
Not all of us.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Just like not all Russians support putin, but the sanctions are still necessary even though they hurt innocents too. The people have the power to end the regime and the sanctions in one fell swoop. All they have to do is organize a large enough general strike / walkout, or storm the seat of government in numbers that are too large to massacre.
Iblamemyparentstoo
Then sit back and watch others fight for you....so Switzerland of you.
Ingellvar
Give me a suggestion? I don’t know how I can do anything to make a difference. I didn’t vote for that orange piece of crap. I live in a rural area. As a single, non straight female of child bearing age with documented mental health issues and no family, I’m pretty scared for the future. I can’t afford to strike, and again - rural area not enough people to get anything done and most are conservative. I can barely afford keeping a roof over my head. What can I do? There’s no local protests.
NarratesTheDarkerStory
Don't bother man, it's hate. Not worry about the world, or their country. Just hate. They are using Trump as an excuse to shit on all Americans. Just hate.
Ingellvar
I have first aid training. Besides patching folks up when the shit inevitably hits the fan, I have no idea what I can do to make a difference.