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Nov 22, 2017 4:22 PM
harrymunster42
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Straffertheflavor
Oh FUCK yes, I'll still have Yahoo.
Huntersmoon115
What they left out: The porn package
Roaminchaos
https://www.battleforthenet.com/
testzero
This shouldn't be called Net Neutrality. This is the internet WITHOUT Net Neutrality. Stop posting content that might confuse people.
ifihadonlyknown
So why should I pay to promote my web addy now less people will see it or ...... Just wondering
lexifornow
This is still cheaper than what I currently pay ::
datboislendii
the last time i checked ive seen little kids burn through 10gbs like it was candy
whalewatchers
This is fucking scary
BRAAAAP4STUTUTU
Soo, basically like EA microtransactions?
mischief4beef33
would this only be in amreica?
kobrakaimf
Facebook and Twitter for free? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
omh1
for 3 months in this hypothetical
YeahBu0y
"You're full speed quota wasn't enough? " they forgot to add the big cheesy grin at the end of that.
7grims
The internet version of micro-transactions.
RIPKobeBryant
Thank God, MySpace will be free.
FeDub
And Bebo! No worries then..
dirkdigglersstuntman
Does anyone know if google fiber is supporting net neutrality?
AbrasiveSasquatch
Is it possible to start a second internet free of all this bullshit that could happen?
GulGubbe
It's scary when you think about that Fox News could be free at the same time NY Times costs $10. The ISP's gonna have so much power.
W92Baj
Its wrong though. They would not group all the same stuff together, eg Twitch and YT would be on different packages forcing you to buy both
foesmono
the joke is, all of that added together is still cheaper than the fuckin BS we pay up here in Canada. Good internet starts at $65/month
Genhgis
Only difference is my phone plan has more data than what this shows. Looks like 2.5 Gb with the expansion. 1/2
Genhgis
I got a data cap on my internet up here to but i cant hope to reach it with 2 comps and a console running. Can go through 2.5 easy though
ThatGuyLirik
Check out CIK in Canada, they have fair price for internet and tv
foesmono
not available in BC to my knowledge
TuggSpeedmann
All those combined is still cheaper than my current ISP.... just saying
HolyCringeLordBatman
If you notice the last one, it says recharge on data quota on top of access costs.
omh1
All those combined gets you 1.5GB of traffic to all sites not listed before throttling you to 256kbps, what you have is probably much better
K1rjAv4
I'm getting conflicting answers here. 2 pics ago said Google and Netflix we're fighting to keep need nuetrality
Crowlands
I don't see the conflict?
L0rdShogun
Its only conflicting if you're stupid...
LoveAndCoffeeButNotNecessarilyInThatOrder
It's not a conflicting message. In this case example, neither Google or Netflix receive a dime from your extra expense. In fact they would
LoveAndCoffeeButNotNecessarilyInThatOrder
have to pay extra premium rates as well to be treated "better" by ISPs carrying their data to your PC.
omh1
Both Google and Netflix are pro-NN, but if we lose NN they will have to play the ISP's game and take part in these deals
Filolial
Do website hosts, which got their website throttled by a ISP, get money from people paying for acces to your website?
omh1
No They would likely have to pay the ISP as well to be featured in one of these deals So the ISP would be charging both the service and user
Filolial
A website can block users from browsing by blocking the servers of the ISPs... lots of complaining customers then. Can't charge for it.
CrossEyedVoyager
Do guns not solve this problem? Murica
ForMyOwnAmusement
notice how widely hated people never get assassinated? Only popular guys like Lincoln, Jackson (attempted) and Kennedy... strange isn't it.
CrossEyedVoyager
LoveAndCoffeeButNotNecessarilyInThatOrder
Guns *could* solve this problem, but then there are those pesky laws/ethics/morals about killing people that make it rather... complicated.
AliasPR
It hasn't stopped people before
LoveAndCoffeeButNotNecessarilyInThatOrder
I said complicated, not impossible.
CaffeineManic
So, ISPs will charge consumers big bucks for high speed access, and also charge content suppliers for access to high speed pipes? Both ends?
123angelsandairwaves123
Also likely they will have data caps. Different tiers =different costs. I can tell u 4 person house with lots of netflix, amazon video, 1/?
123angelsandairwaves123
Other streaming video & gaming we can and have pushed the 1 Terabyte/month envelope which My ISP claimed no normal household would ever 2/?
123angelsandairwaves123
Come close to using
colindwizard
Correct.... Because money
CaffeineManic
So the ISPs become creatures with two dicks, simultaneously fucking both content suppliers and content consumers. Nice.
Fumoufu
Time to turn ISPs into public utilties. This move was dumb as fuck by them
Ancillary
Bravo.
DrD837
And how do you think content suppliers will pass on those charges?
LordHavelock
Precisely, the end user gets hit twice.
CaffeineManic
You misspelled "fucked".
Goldenbeer
I say we all band together and lay our own internet infrastructure. Wishful thinking, I know.
L0rdShogun
With blackjack and hookers...
CaffeineManic
Would take a record-breaking KickStarter, lots of lawyers and lots of political bribery. ( Plus blackjack and hookers. )
TheAnimalLady
Bring it up at a city council meeting! There are a few communities in the US creating their own fibre or broadband networks.
mltsandwich
Comcast already did this to Netflix.
SquatchyMan
Good. Netflix was taking up over half of their bandwidth but still being charged the same a small business would. NN hurts small business
SpruceCaboose
Are you stupid? Bandwidth isn't remotely as limited as it once was, and that's entirely based on consumers doing what they want.
AnHonestLiar
You do realise your argument is "too many people like Netflix, let's handicap Netflix to force people to buy services they don't enjoy"
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
Wow. You have no idea what you're talking about. Just stop.
tex81024
Do you understand how bandwidth allocation works?
mastercoppertree
What is this based on?
WarBear
From my understanding this was suppose to be more of a "what if" than an actual option.
pilojo
See my comments responding to previous poster
punksdad
The future.
pilojo
Indian ISPs without net neutrality, cell phone plans that charge more for certain websites because they're high bandwidth(North America)
GiantBlueSpaceship
What Indian ISP ? That's bullshit. India has net neutrality, we fought off Facebook who tried to get rid of net neutrality in India.
Jotun615
i thunk he meant indonesian....
pilojo
GiantBlueSpaceship
This is not Indian. We have net neutrality, we fought off Facebook for being anti net neutrality in India. (Source: am Indian)
ThomasMontgomeryHaverford
This is unreadable. If this is the earlier post: it was Indonesia mobile data options and did not include the general plan.
LoveAndCoffeeButNotNecessarilyInThatOrder
right-click, open in new tab, then click to enlarge. Also, your point is moot. There should not be anything beyond a single plan.
ThomasMontgomeryHaverford
Good to know. There are already many different plans as customers differ, but folks interpreted it as cutting off access to other sites
LoveAndCoffeeButNotNecessarilyInThatOrder
It can cut off access to other sites. Paying for different speeds is stupid as well, but totally different from what the ISPs want to do.
LoveAndCoffeeButNotNecessarilyInThatOrder
None of this is hypothetical btw, ISPs have already attempted to do these kinds of things which is what prompted the existing rules.
pilojo
This is saying +X rp for 100MB of YouTube. +X rp for 50MB of Facebook, etc. It's horrible.
RumbleNtheJungle
This scenario could cost large internet companies a shit ton of money. Why are they not fighting this like crazy.
UpvoteBuddyJesus
Think this is not going to happen? Think again. I'm in the country, have satellite. Limit and then throttle back. No netflix for me
AdditionalPants
Because the ones large enough to matter like the idea of having their competitors shut out.
FreshPrinceOfPersia
I mean if you do some research you'll see that just about any big company is. Amazon, Google, Netflix, etc, etc
captainskinnydicks
Why is it being said it would help companies? Wouldn’t this harm companies cause people wouldn’t want to pay it?
Kaesden
There wont be a choice. You pay these new schemes or you go without internet.
omh1
They are, to an extent, the battle for the net day back in the summer was massively supported by online companies
7grims
im confused, arent internet providers/companies that DO WANT THIS, so they can do schemes like the example of this post?
HallVoltageMan
Probably because they figure they can cut a deal with the telecom companies for some of the profit
mltsandwich
Amazon just pays the protection money knowing that startups can't afford to. Limits competition.
PartyLikeIts1994
Because the revinue they would make from people would be chump change compared to the cash they would make from shaking down other corps.
HolyCringeLordBatman
The poster meant companies like Amazon or stream not ISPs
RumbleNtheJungle
Who are they? ISPs? Or internet companies?
OriginalNameDoNotSteal
That's the same thing
RumbleNtheJungle
I mean ISP such as Comcast, Verizon, att vs internet companies such as Google, Amazon, Facebook
penguin002
you realize google IS an ISP now yes? and odds are Amazon and FB would jump onto that wagon too.
Atalung
Because they won't do this, they know doing this will drive people to find other options and if cable loses internet they're screwed
123angelsandairwaves123
What other options? Only option here is Comcast...I have no other option
Atalung
At current, but that's changing fast and Comcast knows that, they cant afford to make it happen faster
123angelsandairwaves123
West michigan....Grandville MI...Honestly...Comcast has no competition...it's been this way since high speed Internet...it's can get 1/?
123angelsandairwaves123
*I can get AT&T DSL at like 1/3 the throughput with massive packet loss at peak times. Been this way 10-15 years
Shoutrr
the problem with this in the usa is cable companies don't have competition.
Atalung
I know, but if they piss everyone off by abusing this then that will change, and they can't afford to do that
Shoutrr
that won't change either, because they agreed with each other to not compete so you are forced to use their service. The only way to change
Shoutrr
that is if one new ISP decide to spend money to wire areas. But since they'll need federal and local authorities to grants authorizations
Shoutrr
In France their was a similar situation a while back, 3 ISP were competing on the whole country, but agreed to keep their mobile plan in
Shoutrr
a certain price range. Then an exclusively internet ISP (Free) decided to venture into mobile too and crushed the prices. This sparked an
Shoutrr
(I used ISP while I should have used telecom provider)
malfunctionm1ke
So ThePirateBay is still free then?
ChuckKarma
Non peering, didn't you read, serf!
Rifneno
GrumpierOldMan
I still use Demonoid.....and a VPN.
EvilIncarnate
Well the original server is in a Swedish National Museum of Science and Technology in Stockholm...
RandomImgurian
Technically you wouldn't have to pay for it, no. Since it'd be blocked/severely throttled like any other site that refuses to pay the ISPs.
Calgus
this made me lol!
imapencil
Not just sites, protocols too, you won't be able to use torrents anymore
comeflywithme
It’s a Swedish company based out of yo momma! The grounder went to jail (cuz of the us) and the site is still up. Long live the piratebay!
malfunctionm1ke
pineapplepuppy
(Remember kids, turn off seeding after your download is complete.)
glitterwank
I seed the amount I download
Lesbiansass
Be sure to be on a vpn if seeding
RegaraHontha
Your a monster. Seed to 1.5 or die
Lesbiansass
Unless you have a vpn seeding is retarded and a good way to end up brought up for criminal charges. Just leech if you cant seed safely
RegaraHontha
You're, goddamnit
pineapplepuppy
I feel what you're saying but you seed when you download too. Cover your tracks, it's healthier for all.
Gingerbreadman18
"A massive 2000 mb" that's what I fear the most, capped internet data usage
TommyWa
You only worry about a cap if you have a chance of reaching it in a month - ~70KB/s guy
mezzidriel
Before I left Alaska, all but one ISP had switched to data caps.
HugfordBlops
As an Australian, come visit our hell-hole and see it firsthand. Ever been 'shaped' to dial-up speeds? It's amazing.
Rin007
And ads will be engineered by those that sell the increased data cap so that they drain more data so it runs out faster making you buy more
MerToo
you lost me at "mb"
Ryang256
Download 1 Steam game and you'll blow through that "massive 2000 mb" in no time.
Apokylon
Yea cause 2 gigs is enough for 1 game anymore
Goldenbeer
Right, the last game I downloaded was over 50gb.
MuckDuck1
Yeah you can forget downloading or updating steam games then, I just hate having to update a game that's a few years old
HolyCringeLordBatman
That's already a thing. A lot of people in the US have home internet data caps of like 600gb
TwoToneeRebel
it's 1TB with most major isps in the u.s Comcast and Cox have 1TB a month. and $10 for every 50GB over the 1TB.
Rayner99er
30 GB, was 15 GB. Dishnet is cancer
ElPoloDiablo
I don't think that's a thing in UK, but some ISPs do have an acceptable usage policy and might throttle you or block illegal sites.
ElPoloDiablo
By illegal I mean strictly made illegal by the courts, like Pirate Bay... except for the thousands of proxies available.
Bombpier
Try 50
vonsteyr
I've got a 300gb cap in Canada and that's actually reasonably high- my parents have a 100gb cap with Rogers, out biggest telecom
BRAAAAP4STUTUTU
In belgium, the average data cap is probably around 100GB, "unlimited" is 750GB (unless you get business internet,which is fast as fook) .1
BRAAAAP4STUTUTU
at like at least 200mbit/s, but it really isn't that much more expensive than most other data plans, which are also still very fast.. 2
BRAAAAP4STUTUTU
Compared to other countries, you have at least 3MB/s internet speed over here, i think
Sacurason
Much, much less if the only option in the area is satellite.
ThiccTexan
Yep. $80 per month for "unlimited" internet with a 40gb 5/5mbps cap, then it's dial up for the rest of the month.
HolyCringeLordBatman
Oh those poor people get shafted so, so hard
PoseidonJC
Coming from a very small town aurrounded by corntields, finally making it to university made me appreciate how great unlimited data is.
PoseidonJC
Surrounded* cornfields* unfortunately no amount of data can prevent me from typing like an idiot
TheyCallMeElTopo
Here in Brihtun we either have 40GB (which is basically prehistoric) or unlimited. How the mcshit would you burn through 600GB per month?
Naturally90
I'm from the UK and never heard of a 40gb limit. We have 300mbps speeds... it would be gone in days
HolyCringeLordBatman
I'm married. Me and my wife are both gamers. Games are approaching 100gb downloads. 2 x that for each game, not to mention
HolyCringeLordBatman
any streaming, video or audio, in addition to the fact that I'm a developer. Uploading/downoading new build of software constantly
Lesbiansass
Streaming + gaming + working from home...
TwoToneeRebel
I hit over 1tb a month
QuackHeadd
Count yourself lucky, I'm not even rural and I don't get home internet whatsoever. Only have phone data, cost $250 a month
Naturally90
That's horrendous. I pay £38 for limited phone data and £60 for 200mbs speed broadband
Naturally90
*unlimited
Naturally90
And I live in Scotland!