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Sep 8, 2021 9:46 PM
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TheExGreatShibaBeast
Keuhkopussirotta... torille?
SkeletonsLoveBooty
Bees make too much honey. They really aren't butthurt about losing some. They get a sweet house from the deal and free sugar water.
uponstrangeshores
Here's a thing I know: Farmers use rows of beehives as a fence for keeping elephants off their fields.
zanaria
It's not so much they are sacrificing as they dont live long enough to know they are. They just know the hive is safe
BlancheFromage
Be a good God.
LesbianRedwings
@ScorpionSage magic is just science not yet explained
ScorpionSage
Sure is :) In this case I’d say that bees have a collective instinct for safety and there is enough evidence for them to stay with humans
alcaray
To answer your question: they are domesticated animals.
SonderingStrike
I mean, they have no reason TO move out. Their hive is here with their entire food supply. It's not like they're window shopping hives.
StillChasingFireflies
Bees need to give up harvest so they have room for more and can chance from brood to winter food stores.
godofhorizons
If someone builds you a working house why would you bother building a new one?
OrangeFlavours
These comments are teaching me a lot of mildly incorrect bee keeping information.
dunkum09
each one goes 3 layers deep of corrections and I have no idea what is right anymore. are bees even real? who knows, not the comment section.
Hurro
I'd also imagine that having a ready built home is a lot easier, faster, and safe than building one while the queen is vulnerable.
venomlash
Cute story, but bullshit. Hive boxes are designed to mimic natural hives, down to the spacing between frames. The reason bees don't abscond
venomlash
usually is because it's a huge gamble; if they don't find a suitable home within a couple days, they're FUCKT. A hive will stay in place
venomlash
despite occasional disruption because it's a safe option. Better the devil you know...
bellbebellbebell
This isn’t even the case now. Beekeepers have to check their hives for queen cells and destroy them. Otherwise the hive will swarm
UncontrollableBloodFart
Some clarification. Bees keep a stash of "queen cups" filled with royal jelly as a precaution. If something is wrong they pop a larvae in1/2
UncontrollableBloodFart
to start a new queen. This isn't always an issue as there may be something wrong with the queen and the colony is prepping. 2/?
UncontrollableBloodFart
The colony may also be too large for the hive and a new queen is produced to leave with the some of the colony 3/?
UncontrollableBloodFart
The presence of additional queen cells isn't always a bad thing. 4/4
Besamel
Russell Brand was talking about how he has hives, he decided to leave them alone to do what they wanted, they left and never came back
Eowyyn
Bees swarm from beehives all the time, what are you talking about? The Queen decides if they go or stay. Beekeepers work for the bees.
CelestialSea
That's swarming. It only happens when the hive is overcrowded and then the hive is usually still occupied. How else would bees spread?
TraitorTrader
Ya but that is not about moving the hive as much as it is about expanding to a second hive, original hive stays and keeps producing.
UncontrollableBloodFart
Beekeep here. The queen is a hostage. Provide all the needs and they stay longer. If the hive is too small the colony will split or leave.
PDXairportCarpetFan
Yeah “Queen” is a misnomer. She doesn’t rule anything. Pheromones and crowding cause the workers to make a new queen.
SoraHjort
Reminds me of one time someone tried to get into an argument about how honey bees can't live in the wild. There are a lot of news articles >
SoraHjort
that say otherwise. Where the bees had to be extracted. The argument started because it was brought up Honey bees are a invasive species.
SoraHjort
In North America, I should specify. They're invasive in North America. We've lost many native bees because of them.
HUGHgReaction
Isn’t that normally when the hive gets to big though?
AngurProne
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venomlash
That's swarming. Half the hive leaves with the old queen, and the remaining bees raise new queen(s) from an egg.
venomlash
The queen doesn't really decide...the colony decides. Bee behavior is best understood as a collective.
filthyvagina
Beehavior** come on!! Don’t bee a slacker
UseTheSource
a "hive mind", if you will ?
camn333
iirc, the hice goes where the queen goes. They leave when the queen decides, and the reason they stay is because there's a slit on the...
camn333
exits that is just big enough for workers to pass, but not the queen (which is bigger), so they are all forced to stay there.
AgnesMcGillicuddy
Not true
venomlash
The hive goes where the queen goes, but the queen doesn't decide when they go. Her attendants decide as part of the hive collective.
FirstThingThatCameToMind
and if the hive decides they need a new queen, the old one is murdered.
PressureAndTime
I’ve heard that honey bees are the only animal that can live without destroying (taking pollen won’t kill the plant) and I think that’s cool
TheCrankyCow
It's true of any animal with a symbolic relationship with a plant.
DefinitelyNotMadeOfBees
*symbiotic?
DefinitelyNotMadeOfBees
That's an interesting view, but wouldn't any animal that eats fruit primarily also qualify?
dougbea
Pollen has to carried to flower and fertilize flower that then develops into the fruit.
DefinitelyNotMadeOfBees
Ok, but that has nothing to do with destruction or not. And fruit-eating animals spread seeds necessary to make more fruit, anyways.
bellbebellbebell
But there are lots of other pollinators, other insects, and especially wild bee species
betterave
I beg to differ - hummingbird, probably.
mmontour
They also eat insects and other small critters. There’s not much protein in nectar.
betterave
I stand corrected.
whatseventhepoint
Cute but no. Bees have no concept of us as gods. Beekeepers trick bees into thinking there is a fire so they’re too busy with their
TylerWCox
Actually study's have shown bees can tell individual photos of people apart based on facial features.
whatseventhepoint
Beekeepers wear masks that cover their faces with a fine, dense mesh.
m15ty1981
Beekeepers that are little bitches wear masks that cover their face. Badass beekeepers do not.
whatseventhepoint
Fire prevention tactics (eating as much honey as possible) to think about what is going on.
SmokyDoggg
To me that's still pretty impressive, bees have fire alarms and prep. Which is weird because fire doesn't happen THAT often naturally.
DefinitelyNotMadeOfBees
Yeah but it's pretty devastating when it does happen, so the evolutionary pressure must be enormous.
StillChasingFireflies
How do we trick bees into thinking there is a fire? Smoke is used to mask pheromones that signal stress and panic.
whatseventhepoint
Smoke masks pheromones but the primary use is to make bees think the hive is on fire so they have something to keep them busy. Staying >
whatseventhepoint
Calm is a bonus, not the primary purpose
venomlash
When bees think there's a fire, they fill up on honey, as much as their crop will hold. Bees that are full of honey are docile, because if
venomlash
a bee stings and dies, any honey she's carrying is lost. Also, bee defensiveness is tied to the hive. Bees that are away from their hive or
StillChasingFireflies
As a beekeeper... no... just no....
whatseventhepoint
What is wrong, the pheromones or the “fire alarm” honey eating?
StillChasingFireflies
Fire alarm. Honey eating is when they swarm. They load up and get honey drunk. A swarm is the hive splitting or absconding.
Cargobiker530
Bees stay in the hive because there's a "queen excluder" that keeps the queen in the brood box. They can't leave without the queen.
mmartin762
That's only true when starting a hive. The queen comes out of the box and is free to move the hive after the bees become acclimated to her.
WhaaatDa
I was going to explain that. Thanks
Harryteeters
Bend the bee's knee
anasteelittlething
But that's not true
Cthulhuonabike
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rahvin37
Queen excluders keep the queen in one half of the hive, so that the larvae are only in that part. This way, honey (their excess food) 2/3
rahvin37
can easily be taken from the other half without disturbing the queen's laying process and larvae growth. 3/3
suppafly
/r/confidentlyincorrect
TylerWCox
False, excluders keep queens from laying eggs in the honey supers. Queens can leave any time. Virgin queens leave to mate or to split.
StillChasingFireflies
That's not what a queen excluder does nor do most beekeepers use one.
bloodandbloodyashes
How dare you take the romance out of domestication.
iDrinkDrano
They're incorrect, though.
rahvin37
Incorrect. Queen excluders simply separate the hive into two parts, with the queen on one side. This way, only one side of the hive 1/?
rahvin37
contains larvae, and the other will be ONLY honeycomb. Honey can easily be extracted from the non-queen side of the hive without 2/?
rahvin37
disturbing the queen or her larvae. The queen can leave at any time. New queens must have the ability to leave the hive in order to 3/4
rahvin37
fly and return from their mating flight. 4/4.
TheFeralDog
Nah dude the queen can still leave with an excluder on the hives I've seen. It's just a hole she can't fit through to where the honey is.
TheFeralDog
...but obviously there are different types of beehives so maybe some designs are like you say. IDK never kept bees myself. I just...
TheFeralDog
.. Know what I learned from one of my friends in high school he helped his dad rent/sell hives to farmers and move them all around the field
IdiotSavantTinker
Fun fact, the queen excluder also keeps skunks out of the hive box. Skunks like to eat bees.
TheDogEnd
What a bunch of stinkers!
stinkbeaner
Fucken savages
WehWehWeh
Same
EatsBees
are you me
venomlash
You're thinking of an entrance reducer. And while it might keep mice out, skunks apparently scratch on the landing board to lure bees out.
duffman3335
I can tell you don't know a THING about beekeeping /s.
venomlash
That's not what a queen excluder does. It keeps her out of the supers (boxes that keepers harvest honey from) so she doesn't lay brood there
venomlash
but she's perfectly capable of leaving through the front entrance of the hive.
Crazyaussiecanadian
Even though you have no votes, thankyou for sharing the truth. Bees don't leave established hives. They might split/die but they don't leave
venomlash
Eh, bees CAN leave...but they only abscond as a real last resort. Usually they're under constant severe stress from predators or similar.
DemXD
See this makes more sense. I always wondered how they kept larva out of the honey section of the hive.
venomlash
Most of the time a queen excluder isn't even necessary. A good queen keeps a compact brood nest and doesn't lay eggs randomly around.
zanderfire
Now I'm just imagining someone chastising a new queen the same way they would a dog - "NO, BAD QUEEN. NO EGGS THERE, ONLY HERE."
BlindGardener
But it's nice for the owner to have a good indicator of which cells are certainly empty.
venomlash
(Since brood needs to stay ~94°F constantly, keeping it all in one place minimizes the energy spent shivering to warm the hive in winter.)