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MrMince
My favourite part is that it is Frankie Boyle. Look him up if you don't know who he is.
railgap
THIS HAPPENED IN FEBRUARY
Rodeodoc
Just like Hillary will stand for human rights, except in countries that donate to the Clinton Foundation. Saudis, keep killing gays.
ThatOneGuyOP
And you know, the whole NSA thing that Snowden exposed.
MattDude
Aside from DAPL, cause you're just going to "let it play out" and have people get their arms blown off by concussive grenades.
thepsudo
1) It's not a torture camp. 2) Obama tried to close it.
timidinsultswithahealthymixofselfdeprecatinghumorandsheerpanic
You mean an enhanced interrogation camp, silly.
thatgeekywhiteguy
As a DoD interrogator, advanced interrogation techniques are a great way to lose your job and go to jail for life.
mobbatbarnmedautomatvapen
Savage as... Well, as usual I guess.
TheBestPartOfWakingUpIsUpvotesInYourCup
It's not a torture camp, but we're cool.
gnargnar99
Ya ok whatever you say, president signature strike.
iTzAwesomesauce
Yeah, but Obama did try to close it to be fair.
SeanBeanDiesAlot
He did try, Congress refused to do so.
imbatron
The only thing America does around the world is trample on human rights, FFS.
BoozeHound001
damn, Boyle goes straight for the jugular.
BONERHAVER
waterboarding at guantanamo bay sounds awesome if you dont know what either of those things are
CPatricoo
It doesnt torture anymore. It is down to 60 people. Half have charges coming (albeit slowly). The rest we are finding places for thrm to go.
BlasserDuennerJunge
It tortured thousand of mostly innocent people... and 60 are still 60 too many.
HeckinBambuzil
"have charges coming" because obviously withholding people without a charge indefinitely is the pinnacle of human rights
CPatricoo
Its a shit situation to start but lets understand its in progress and a legal mess caused by someone else
Tymich92
Except when it comes to the Dakota access pipe line.
TCGView
To give Obama credit, he wanted to shut it down but when it actually came to getting rid of prisoners, certain people lost their shit.
Glumerlink
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/08/01/why-obama-has-failed-to-close-guantanamo read this, it's enlightening
darvint
Good read
Glumerlink
am i the only one weirded out that it was online for free? I thought this was a ver expensive publication
Threns
I think they're one of those that'll allow a certain number of free article views per month, then hit you with the subscription request.
Idownvotefornosauce
Yeah but it's a camp and camps are fun.
NootTheNooter
Tell that to the Jews in the 1940s
Idownvotefornosauce
Think they got the memo seemed like they were almost all there.
whyiseverythingupsidedown
"let's go waterboarding at Guantanamo Bay!" sounds like a fun family holiday tagline.
DickTugsMore
It's the next griswold family vacation
Idownvotefornosauce
The showers are great.
lGetThatReference
...if you don't know what either of those things mean
FerrousBuehler
Not to mention an illegal invasion of syria in which we've been killing civilians via drone and fighter jets.
BlasserDuennerJunge
Thank you!
FerrousBuehler
I despise my government for their hypocrisy and inhumane actions all around the world. More americans need to wake up
RosencrantzNGuildensternNeverLived
Yes! I remember pictures of Obama building that camp! I deffinitely don't remember him trying to close it. I'm a stupid-american.
notso5ecret4gent
Early in his presidency check it out
kohrah
You're a sharp one, aren't you
reknedreuQ
The us breaks the geneva conventions and does not always accept the jurisdiction of the international court. The critic is well deserved.
MantisTobagganMD
Critique*
BiteTheHandsThatThieve
I wish i could go to work and just stop anyone from getting anything done and still have my job. Congressional republicans have it.made.
BarrackHusseinIslamabama
To be fair he only said he was going to do it and then never tried.
Glumerlink
He tried a lot http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/08/01/why-obama-has-failed-to-close-guantanamo
BarrackHusseinIslamabama
As I understand it he could have done it through affirmative action and he didn't beacuse he was afraid for his legacy/politics/etc.
MantisTobagganMD
No....not affirmative action...
DanMoshpit69
You can't make up this kind of stupid.
MileHighLivin
"Tried" just like Trump will "try" and build a wall. Empty promises for votes.
NotACop1515IsMyAgeNotACop
Those are 2 very different things. Hes made several attempts at this, something possible (however complicated). Trump is promising the 1/?
NotACop1515IsMyAgeNotACop
Impossible with no intention of trying. Obama's trying to solve a 30x30 rubiks cube and trumps telling everyone he'll find the cure to 2/3
NotACop1515IsMyAgeNotACop
Werewolves with a glass of milk and a blowtorch. 3/3
oyoyoyyyyy
Couldn't find that tweet. Is it fake?
junkywithamonkey
the cia deleted it and had him assassinated for writing it. anyone who's read it is ne-
MrMince
It might not be cuz Frankie Boyle is the kinda guy to do shit like that
MrMince
It might not be cuz Frankie Boyle is the kinda guy to do shit like that
unclemeat70
To equate Gitmo with Castro's brutal dictatorship is just plain silly.
bishopmuzorewa
Not to the people beeing tortued and detained for years without trial i can imagine
GenerallyKenobi
I know right, Castro isnt nearly as bad as the USA
HoldThePigSteady
I seem to recall that after the Red Cross investigated the place the best the could come up with was a request for softer soccer balls.
pangyre
Yeah, maybe they didn’t see the inmates who hanged themselves with hands and feet tied and mouths stuffed with rags?
HoldThePigSteady
They were probably so upset about the soccer balls that they committed suicide. I wouldn't mind some sauce on your claim.
pangyre
This stuff’s not secret: http://harpers.org/archive/2010/03/the-guantanamo-suicides/ *plenty* more attrcious stuff if you search around.
HoldThePigSteady
Of course there's no way they're willing to kill their fellow prisoners to make the camp gaurds look bad. Oh, wait. There is. I'm far (1/2)
HoldThePigSteady
I'm far more willing to trust in the honor and integrity of the marine gaurds than the assholes they're guarding. You it seems are not.
Kellbomber
Didn't Obama himself say he was going to shut it down too?
M92BiH
He did you racist!!
DarkSock
Congress had something to do with that… And something I mean everything. You can't have it both ways, sunshine.
robertoppenheimer
No more black sites to ship 'em off to
SillyZombie
Yea, in the first 90 days of his first term
HeckinBambuzil
Like he promised to shut down nsa spying on us citizens then basically gave them free reign to fuck things up even worse?
Hjpbell
Its gonna be FULL when Trump get his hands on those pesky snow Mexicans
SenatorHillaryIAmStillInTheRaceClinton
He promised within one year of taking office the first time. It was one of his main campaign points.
catpuking
Yes. At issue is knowing the prisoner is guilty of a crime but getting that info through torture so it's not legal.
catpuking
As some commentators have said they should just let all of them go and face them in the battle fields. Make a hard choice.
Morladim
These aren't the kinds of people who show up on the battlefield. They're planners and bomb makers
catpuking
They are imprisoned without due process. They are not POWs, they are tortured prisoners with no homeland.
craze
the prisoners are war criminals and he wants to try them as US Citizens. Sorry but that is not going to fly ever.
SendMeYourSelfie
Apparently there's only 61 prisoners left in the camp. He plans to have it closed before he leaves office.
slurmlover
Yep campaigned on it heavily in 2008.
Glumerlink
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/08/01/why-obama-has-failed-to-close-guantanamo 2nd day in office he tried, read this.
GapingAnalCavity
Used to be against legalization of marijuana as well. Hillary campaigned against gay marriage. Politicians lie. Always. All of them.
darvint
Last I heard he shut down a section of it. So I guess he just move the prisoner to another part of the Prison.....Still Guantanamo.
froghurt
It's almost like he's not a dictator and he needs congressional approval.
Ragnarukus
Isnt there like only 4 inmates left?
Sc00ba5teeve
60 currently held, 20 are recommended for release and no one will take the rest.
Mistermonday96
I'm sure there's some facility in the US they could go. It's just so publicly unpopular they won't risk it.
Sc00ba5teeve
It's been shot down by the governor of every state they've attempted to move them to
Morladim
Federal prisons don't give a shit what governors want
Sc00ba5teeve
And then everyone realized it was a political impossibility. Even our allies are opposed to its closing, now.
Mistermonday96
Global community still wants it closed. They bring it up every year at the UN summit. They just don't know what to do with the people there.
IthinkIshitMyself
Put them on a boat and sink it. In a couple of years nobody will even remember.
Mistermonday96
Worked with the Titanic.
Tassyr
Catch 22. Close it, and you have to figure out what to do with those prisoners. Don't, and you have the thing sitting for the world to see.
Glumerlink
The issue is they already are clearing out prisoners but those remaining are of a group which has no evidence of wrongdoing despite (1)
Glumerlink
Knowledge that they indeed did do some horrendous things, the US knows if they release these people they'll go on to do worse(2/2)
Mistermonday96
It's a symbolic fallacy that makes the US look bad with no real gain. All it says is "We believe in the law--but fuck it we'll rent
Mistermonday96
a property somewhere where our laws don't matter and we'll do what we want."
GlowstickJedi
He has tried many times. Congress said 'no' each time.
Schmedes
Even when the Democrats had the majority at the beginning?
PaperCl1p
Obama had a Democrat super majority. He literally could have done every single thing he promised yet did almost none of it.
Glumerlink
He did a lot on those early months, so fucking much but starting with the introduction of the ACA the Democrats became less responsive
Glumerlink
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/08/01/why-obama-has-failed-to-close-guantanamo
IHatePuns
Just because they were the same party doesn't mean they were yes men. What would be his benefit from not doing things he was capable of?
PaperCl1p
He made massive promises that he has the opportunity to keep and didn't. Why give the guy this blanket pass?
drmount
If you criticize Obama on Imgur, you get downvoted every time, justified or not.
dingosmush
(1) He ordered it shut and began a prisoner transfer process. Congress refused to allow them to be housed on the mainland. It's not as....
fpierce1997
Because Americans decided they didn't want terrorists on our main land!
AJILIVIZION
Terrorists have been serving time in prisons throughout the country before Guantanamo Bay existed, & still do presently.
WhoYouGonnaCallGhostNappa
We would also have to give them a proper trial instead of keeping them imprisoned at our discretion
dingosmush
(2) simple as putting the prisoners on a plane to Pakistan. Most of them were given to us from all around the region, usually for bounties
SillyZombie
What? Obama's naivete showing again?! Gasp. Inc downvotes
BlasserDuennerJunge
Not given to you. A german prisoner was forced to get in there...
docweird
"Given" as in "kidnapped by CIA operatives in broad daylight" -given... ;)
docweird
Fine, they had little help by the locals, first: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_El-Masri
dingosmush
(3) we offered with no oversight. A german guy got hauled off of a bus by corrupt cops in Pakistan. He languished for years until he was
dingosmush
(4) Released. It needs to be closed, at least as a prison. However it won't be easy. TL;DR President Obama tried, but want able/allowed to
dingosmush
(5) close the facility.
Datmurdaa
I thought it was set up As an executive action there for it could be taken down the same way because it was unconstitutional to begin with
Kangolian
If we checked replies this far we read, don't need the tl;dr :) nice info.
Idkimadeanaccountjustforthis
Didn't a lot of the countries that we tried sending the prisoners back to say, "no you keep them we don't want them"?