Oct 4, 2021 4:39 AM
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Anyone knows the name of the book?
banana4skale
Dad loves me. Mom hates me. Sisters variable. Brother leans toward loves me. I learned this one early when family got destroyed in divorce.
StonesOnTheHill
That idea kept me from killing myself way back when. I might have a right to kill the one internal me, but I can't kill my mother's son
Noodlesocks
I get it but you are the only one who has to live with you for the rest of your life so make sure it is the best you you can.
leodavinci1
This is backwards. The" you" everyone else "thinks" they know is not the real "you". The "you" that you know is the only real "you".
Xaldyn
xuumo
That shits a book?
Kindofathingbutnotreally
bripi
"Relife" by fuck I don't know the author but this is the exact same story.
JudgePhilipBanks
I was daydreaming earlier that if I died, I dont think anyone would truly know who I am or how I feel. Just their surface level perceptions.
wavegirl64
I love when people try to tell others what I think or whatever. They are always wrong.
"Relife" by Dan Barton totally explores/covers this. A wonderful read!
RadasNoir
This is actually something I've long been painfully aware of. I liken it to wearing different "masks", whether I'm with family or out...
...with coworkers. One of the reasons why I generally prefer to be alone is I don't feel like I have to wear a mask anymore.
HappyTimeHollis
Sounds like you would enjoy the philosophical side of Neon Genesis Evangelion. Watch the show, the movies skip a lot of that.
jherazob
https://youtu.be/OH7UdQbmeOM
euphoricopportunity
There can be only one!
chetnixandflill
And I'm a million different people from one day to the next I can't change my mould
bekkayya
ITT: people who think this is obvious in retrospect but have never actually experienced it. when you do, it will be like a slap in the face.
its the difference between two people agreeing "yeah everybody sees a different shade of red" vs an outsider insisting you're blue.
DavidBowiesEyepatch
An epiphany, that turns out to not be an epiphany.
ShadyBuddha
"You" don't exist.
prufock
Inverted, the versions of others that you hold are not the versions they hold themselves. Try to imagine how another sees him/herself.
TheUnstoppableWampas
Well yeah. Wait a minute. Are you people not intentionally doing this? You can be anything you want and you choose to be just you?
FentuckyCriedKhicken
That's funny cuz my friends see me as a joke. They laugh a lot on me when I'm not even there.
DurendaI
Lol who fuckin cares
cainofdreaming
Dada is father, dada is mother.
crackblind
ScoobyDoobyDeuce
I think I like you.
Insomnia297
The highest tier of philosophy is realizing how pointless philosophy is. All the answers to life's questions are stupid, so just do whatever
HeHulk
It’s a journey, not an end. You can only respect that outcome when you’ve dissected the arguments and realized this yourself.
Yes, and I'm only making a joke at my own expense, really.
PcJunky
Nothing really matters, let's go watch TV.
Saismirk
No, that's just giving up
Well, consider it this way: If the answer to "what is the meaning of life?" had an answer like "create the singularity and become god",
that'd be cool and useful. Except, the answer to that question is dumb. Meaning is something people made up and is not inherent to anything
And that's a pretty useless thing to know.
jeffbInternetBeast
I don't think this is so cosmic or interesting. People perceive just about everything somewhat differently.
DooksandPooks
Yeah this simulation were living in is calibrated differently for each player
Eli93
It's probably interesting if you've never thought about the concept by yourself... I hear such people exist.
RadHazG
See the old question: Do you see the color red as I do?
Tsunako
Qualia!
theredacted
I didn’t realize this was an old question and tried to explain to my brother how what if we both see red differently but we both call it red
draek1
The Reddit/imgur sphere is easily impressed by the slightest introspection
I get why. Looking at the state of society it does seem like introspection is rare.
Onja
Still fun to think about ?
GravyEducation
I once had a thought that all people perceived time differently at different points of it. Turns out Stephen Hawking had the idea first
DarkUranium
Older people percieve time differently than younger. Saccade (rapid eye movement from A to B) momentarily changes perception of time, too.
Eldis
Weird how I've never realised this despite moving eyes in the rhythm of music when playing. It's a great way to keep time in fast licks.
I'm high and might not be explaining it well. Like I could think it was today but at the same "point" you're perceiving its 2023. Like not
theory of relativity shit but maybe it is. I suck at science
batttyroy
No you got it, yes we’re all experiencing life here and now but that here and now is different to everyone. Probably in infinite ways too.
That was well-said. Molecules and quantum theory and shit. Time is a very ill-defined concept because we can't prove it's modality
In fact the last book I read deals with this concept in a cool way. Sirens of Titan by Vonnegut
Thx, interesting topic, when I’m deep in thought about our perception of time it’s always “these modes! How can we prove them!”
OrkenMork
That's but one of the reasons I don't interact with people. I don't want them getting *ANY* ideas about me!
GuacamoleMoleMolester
"That secluded creeper..."
skincancerisfun
Mr Invisible
confanity
Well, you certainly fucked that up by commenting here. :p
touche
IntentiomalTypo
"why doesn't Mork interact with us?" "Idk but I have A MILLION ideas"
SheepySleepySmuggler
It's because of the mark on their door isn't it?
warmNchewey
And they will spread those ideas...
SpartanwithaSkirt
So you're one of THOSE kinda of people. Hmmm gotcha
v
jekath
I imagine what you are like now.
GondwanaCraton
Even people who only see you, or read this comment, get ideas about you.
WoefulWombat
I didn't get my first enemy until I was in my 20's. Feels weird knowing that bitch is out there, also thinking of me as 'that bitch'.
justhereforthemimes
It didn't occur to me until a while later, but realistically people probably hated me throughout school and I had no idea
Or... I was always your enemy but waited until this moment in this exact comment to reveal myself!!! And yes, 3 exclamation....
...marks SHOULD make you worry...
Well maybe worry a little. I mean if you found my house and entered it there might be a confrontation but only if I look up from...
...my phone or computer. More likely you don't come looking, I never leave the house and this is nothing more than an idle threat....
TallulahBumfluff
One, No One, and One Hundred Thousand - Luigi Pirandello
GeantDeTitane
.
filthytreedweller
MyMoldySausage
Jeneyefer
Thank you
uglykittybun
Soberyn
OneHandedComent
Doot
Velina
sosogeekd
Ordered! Thank you!
MightyBlackGuy
aPaleHorseNamedDerp
RogueShinobi0
/a/7v2gJHz
bezobzira
?❤️
Tanshift
Skeran
I read the book, imo it's not that good....
CheeseheadD
I second that.
AndnoneforGretchenWieners
RalphPootawn3000
Gen1Optimus
What did Mario think about that?
Luigi said "Mario, you don'ta really know the real me!"
HandoB4Javert
He took up plumbing.
SecondAccountforDoingOtherShit
Mario stuck with the plumbing and adventuring. Luigi needed more. Needed to know what/who he really means when he says "Luigi numba 1!"
BenderRodriguz1010
He has a ghost catching business and is a professional racer. He's doing good.
stereomiljac8888
He doesnt care. He is living happily with a princess in a castle.
She’s in another castle
tibris
MrdoubleYouTeeF
TheBridgeburners
LickingAssAndTakingNames
Delabouilliederizquisourit
FuckingTurtleBear
From 1926
Oshjoshbagosh
The last thing my social anxiety needed was the idea that people think about me.
TwelveMotionJeweledSkull
They don’t
spookyactionatadistance
They do. Just not everyone. If you think about people then it's fair to expect thst people think about you.
Oh thank god. Wait.... I KNEW THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT ME.
Darkwolf2577
Does anyone else think this is sorta... Super obvious? Of course everyone views you differently, they don't know your thoughts, feelings, 1/
FireSpittingVacuumCleaner
This was a mind-blowing concept when I was 9.
Yea, that's sorta how I felt... Same sorta time when I realised my teachers had their own lives and weren't just teachers, ya know?
FeChefImgur
I don't know, it might not be super obvious to all ?
Oh yea, I get that it definitely might not be, but I've seen this posted before with lots of upvotes, so I was wondering if others 1/
were also as confused as I, and didn't view this as a big revelation.
I think it's one of those things that if you stop and think about it, then it should be reasonably obvious, but until then, perhaps not.
Fair enough!
Kbantar
Neurotypicals always alter who they are based on the group around them. I'm mildly autistic and my brother is an opposite/social chameleon.
Exactly! So is it just that people don't realise that both they and others are doing that constantly?
I think most people consider changing "who" they are even if it's ubiquitous to be lying and therefore that can't be what they're doing.
Good points (this comment and the other)! I am definitely more on the social chameleon side of things, but I can definitely see how 1/
some people would view that as lying, both external people and as a refusal to self-identity it that way by people like that. Thank you!
I know that as a child I had trouble recognizing it as normal. I just considered my brother to be a freakishly good liar.
etc. How could they? First impressions also differ, which is very impactful to how people view you. And, of course, everyone has 2/
different things they like and dislike, so their opinion of you will differ, which also colours how they view you. Plus so many other 3/
things that effect how you are viewed. So this just sorta makes no sense to me... Anyone willing to explain if they disagree? Am curious 4/4
MisspentYouth333
Some people need a reminder to be nice to other people, because other people don’t know how amazing you are
I guess that's one way to look at it. Not sure how it's reminding people to be nice to others though.
You may not be grasping the full weight of it. The full ramifications of it are pretty heavy, and it's not just about them perceiving you.
It's also about you perceiving *them*. Like your mother. You love her or you hate her or whatever, but you think she's that person. But what
banana4skale
Dad loves me. Mom hates me. Sisters variable. Brother leans toward loves me. I learned this one early when family got destroyed in divorce.
StonesOnTheHill
That idea kept me from killing myself way back when. I might have a right to kill the one internal me, but I can't kill my mother's son
Noodlesocks
I get it but you are the only one who has to live with you for the rest of your life so make sure it is the best you you can.
leodavinci1
This is backwards. The" you" everyone else "thinks" they know is not the real "you". The "you" that you know is the only real "you".
Xaldyn
xuumo
That shits a book?
Kindofathingbutnotreally
bripi
"Relife" by fuck I don't know the author but this is the exact same story.
JudgePhilipBanks
I was daydreaming earlier that if I died, I dont think anyone would truly know who I am or how I feel. Just their surface level perceptions.
wavegirl64
I love when people try to tell others what I think or whatever. They are always wrong.
bripi
"Relife" by Dan Barton totally explores/covers this. A wonderful read!
RadasNoir
This is actually something I've long been painfully aware of. I liken it to wearing different "masks", whether I'm with family or out...
RadasNoir
...with coworkers. One of the reasons why I generally prefer to be alone is I don't feel like I have to wear a mask anymore.
HappyTimeHollis
Sounds like you would enjoy the philosophical side of Neon Genesis Evangelion. Watch the show, the movies skip a lot of that.
jherazob
https://youtu.be/OH7UdQbmeOM
euphoricopportunity
There can be only one!
chetnixandflill
And I'm a million different people from one day to the next I can't change my mould
bekkayya
ITT: people who think this is obvious in retrospect but have never actually experienced it. when you do, it will be like a slap in the face.
bekkayya
its the difference between two people agreeing "yeah everybody sees a different shade of red" vs an outsider insisting you're blue.
DavidBowiesEyepatch
An epiphany, that turns out to not be an epiphany.
ShadyBuddha
"You" don't exist.
prufock
Inverted, the versions of others that you hold are not the versions they hold themselves. Try to imagine how another sees him/herself.
TheUnstoppableWampas
Well yeah. Wait a minute. Are you people not intentionally doing this? You can be anything you want and you choose to be just you?
FentuckyCriedKhicken
That's funny cuz my friends see me as a joke. They laugh a lot on me when I'm not even there.
DurendaI
Lol who fuckin cares
cainofdreaming
Dada is father, dada is mother.
crackblind
ScoobyDoobyDeuce
I think I like you.
Insomnia297
The highest tier of philosophy is realizing how pointless philosophy is. All the answers to life's questions are stupid, so just do whatever
HeHulk
It’s a journey, not an end. You can only respect that outcome when you’ve dissected the arguments and realized this yourself.
Insomnia297
Yes, and I'm only making a joke at my own expense, really.
PcJunky
Nothing really matters, let's go watch TV.
Saismirk
No, that's just giving up
Insomnia297
Well, consider it this way: If the answer to "what is the meaning of life?" had an answer like "create the singularity and become god",
Insomnia297
that'd be cool and useful. Except, the answer to that question is dumb. Meaning is something people made up and is not inherent to anything
Insomnia297
And that's a pretty useless thing to know.
jeffbInternetBeast
I don't think this is so cosmic or interesting. People perceive just about everything somewhat differently.
DooksandPooks
Yeah this simulation were living in is calibrated differently for each player
Eli93
It's probably interesting if you've never thought about the concept by yourself... I hear such people exist.
RadHazG
See the old question: Do you see the color red as I do?
Tsunako
Qualia!
theredacted
I didn’t realize this was an old question and tried to explain to my brother how what if we both see red differently but we both call it red
draek1
The Reddit/imgur sphere is easily impressed by the slightest introspection
Eli93
I get why. Looking at the state of society it does seem like introspection is rare.
Onja
Still fun to think about ?
GravyEducation
I once had a thought that all people perceived time differently at different points of it. Turns out Stephen Hawking had the idea first
DarkUranium
Older people percieve time differently than younger. Saccade (rapid eye movement from A to B) momentarily changes perception of time, too.
Eldis
Weird how I've never realised this despite moving eyes in the rhythm of music when playing. It's a great way to keep time in fast licks.
GravyEducation
I'm high and might not be explaining it well. Like I could think it was today but at the same "point" you're perceiving its 2023. Like not
GravyEducation
theory of relativity shit but maybe it is. I suck at science
batttyroy
No you got it, yes we’re all experiencing life here and now but that here and now is different to everyone. Probably in infinite ways too.
GravyEducation
That was well-said. Molecules and quantum theory and shit. Time is a very ill-defined concept because we can't prove it's modality
GravyEducation
In fact the last book I read deals with this concept in a cool way. Sirens of Titan by Vonnegut
batttyroy
Thx, interesting topic, when I’m deep in thought about our perception of time it’s always “these modes! How can we prove them!”
OrkenMork
That's but one of the reasons I don't interact with people. I don't want them getting *ANY* ideas about me!
GuacamoleMoleMolester
"That secluded creeper..."
skincancerisfun
Mr Invisible
confanity
Well, you certainly fucked that up by commenting here. :p
OrkenMork
touche
IntentiomalTypo
"why doesn't Mork interact with us?" "Idk but I have A MILLION ideas"
SheepySleepySmuggler
It's because of the mark on their door isn't it?
warmNchewey
And they will spread those ideas...
SpartanwithaSkirt
So you're one of THOSE kinda of people. Hmmm gotcha
DarkUranium
jekath
I imagine what you are like now.
GondwanaCraton
Even people who only see you, or read this comment, get ideas about you.
WoefulWombat
I didn't get my first enemy until I was in my 20's. Feels weird knowing that bitch is out there, also thinking of me as 'that bitch'.
justhereforthemimes
It didn't occur to me until a while later, but realistically people probably hated me throughout school and I had no idea
SheepySleepySmuggler
Or... I was always your enemy but waited until this moment in this exact comment to reveal myself!!! And yes, 3 exclamation....
SheepySleepySmuggler
...marks SHOULD make you worry...
SheepySleepySmuggler
Well maybe worry a little. I mean if you found my house and entered it there might be a confrontation but only if I look up from...
SheepySleepySmuggler
...my phone or computer. More likely you don't come looking, I never leave the house and this is nothing more than an idle threat....
TallulahBumfluff
One, No One, and One Hundred Thousand - Luigi Pirandello
GeantDeTitane
.
filthytreedweller
.
MyMoldySausage
.
Jeneyefer
Thank you
uglykittybun
.
Soberyn
.
OneHandedComent
Doot
Velina
.
sosogeekd
Ordered! Thank you!
MightyBlackGuy
.
aPaleHorseNamedDerp
.
RogueShinobi0
/a/7v2gJHz
bezobzira
?❤️
Tanshift
.
Skeran
I read the book, imo it's not that good....
CheeseheadD
I second that.
AndnoneforGretchenWieners
.
RalphPootawn3000
.
Gen1Optimus
What did Mario think about that?
GondwanaCraton
Luigi said "Mario, you don'ta really know the real me!"
HandoB4Javert
He took up plumbing.
SecondAccountforDoingOtherShit
Mario stuck with the plumbing and adventuring. Luigi needed more. Needed to know what/who he really means when he says "Luigi numba 1!"
BenderRodriguz1010
He has a ghost catching business and is a professional racer. He's doing good.
stereomiljac8888
He doesnt care. He is living happily with a princess in a castle.
Gen1Optimus
She’s in another castle
tibris
.
MrdoubleYouTeeF
.
TheBridgeburners
.
LickingAssAndTakingNames
.
Delabouilliederizquisourit
.
FuckingTurtleBear
From 1926
Oshjoshbagosh
The last thing my social anxiety needed was the idea that people think about me.
TwelveMotionJeweledSkull
They don’t
spookyactionatadistance
They do. Just not everyone. If you think about people then it's fair to expect thst people think about you.
Oshjoshbagosh
Oh thank god. Wait.... I KNEW THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT ME.
Darkwolf2577
Does anyone else think this is sorta... Super obvious? Of course everyone views you differently, they don't know your thoughts, feelings, 1/
FireSpittingVacuumCleaner
This was a mind-blowing concept when I was 9.
Darkwolf2577
Yea, that's sorta how I felt... Same sorta time when I realised my teachers had their own lives and weren't just teachers, ya know?
FeChefImgur
I don't know, it might not be super obvious to all ?
Darkwolf2577
Oh yea, I get that it definitely might not be, but I've seen this posted before with lots of upvotes, so I was wondering if others 1/
Darkwolf2577
were also as confused as I, and didn't view this as a big revelation.
FeChefImgur
I think it's one of those things that if you stop and think about it, then it should be reasonably obvious, but until then, perhaps not.
Darkwolf2577
Fair enough!
Kbantar
Neurotypicals always alter who they are based on the group around them. I'm mildly autistic and my brother is an opposite/social chameleon.
Darkwolf2577
Exactly! So is it just that people don't realise that both they and others are doing that constantly?
Kbantar
I think most people consider changing "who" they are even if it's ubiquitous to be lying and therefore that can't be what they're doing.
Darkwolf2577
Good points (this comment and the other)! I am definitely more on the social chameleon side of things, but I can definitely see how 1/
Darkwolf2577
some people would view that as lying, both external people and as a refusal to self-identity it that way by people like that. Thank you!
Kbantar
I know that as a child I had trouble recognizing it as normal. I just considered my brother to be a freakishly good liar.
Darkwolf2577
etc. How could they? First impressions also differ, which is very impactful to how people view you. And, of course, everyone has 2/
Darkwolf2577
different things they like and dislike, so their opinion of you will differ, which also colours how they view you. Plus so many other 3/
Darkwolf2577
things that effect how you are viewed. So this just sorta makes no sense to me... Anyone willing to explain if they disagree? Am curious 4/4
MisspentYouth333
Some people need a reminder to be nice to other people, because other people don’t know how amazing you are
Darkwolf2577
I guess that's one way to look at it. Not sure how it's reminding people to be nice to others though.
skincancerisfun
You may not be grasping the full weight of it. The full ramifications of it are pretty heavy, and it's not just about them perceiving you.
skincancerisfun
It's also about you perceiving *them*. Like your mother. You love her or you hate her or whatever, but you think she's that person. But what