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Jul 14, 2020 9:24 PM
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MDWitCommunityMagnet
After a night of cocaine, heroine and drinking I just pop a Kingsford briquette or two before bed and wake up feeling great! Kingsford. +1
SciNZ
In the first half I was getting ready to downvote. Fucking pseudoscientific “wellness” bullshit.
dazergolf
don't forget that grapefruit also messes up your enzymes (i.e. cytochrome P450) in random ways. So this stuff might be dangerous
e4b8167
Wait a tick, ibuprofen latte IS my breakfast....
Malloon
Yep. Grapefruit (juice) is the one thing I can't have any more due to my medication. Shame, I liked it, but it's an acceptable trade-off.
punkmofo
johnnyhandbags
Side effects include diarrhea AND constipation. Dialectic shitrealism
StrangerRangerDanger
Best way to "detox" is to eat your colorful veggies; esp things in the cabbage family, they boost your liver and kidneys and they do detox
PVTdumpsterbandit
The SO is on a medication that makes grapefruit and grapefruit products lethal. The charcoal is news to me but you learn every day.
rshini
my mother loves grapefruits she had to give them up due to her medication
umbrellamaker
My paramedic brother calls activated charcoal "kitty litter for your insides"
NomDeImguerre
*Inconspicuously tries to put away the cup of Ibuprofen Espresso" Nope, definitely wouldn't make a latte, no siree.
Candanosa
Activated charcoal is just carbon. There's a reason why like is carbon-based: that's stuff binds with everything. Don't drink this shit.
EdMcBain
THIS THIS A THOUSAND TIMES THIS. You don’t have “toxins” and there isn’t a chemical equation for a “toxin.” A juice cleanse only cleanses $
TanithRosenbaum
And "Natural" isn't "Good" or "A Remedy". There is no distinction between natural and artificial in chemistry. It's all chemistry, period.
Rheios
The closest you could get would be if your body stored actual toxic materials in with your fat cells and your "juice" cleanse let it out(1)
Rheios
from weight-loss but then its actually, y'know, poisoning you. (2)
brillbo
You know what they call natural medicine that works? Medicine.
SheTurnedMeIntoANewtButIGotBetter
o/ can I get an ibuprofen latte too?
aFukingGoatOutside
An ibuprofen latte? That sounds delicious! - signed, a veteran
onlyhalfghost
yeah but they only work if you change your socks and drink sixteen litres of that weird distilled until it tastes wrong water.
aFukingGoatOutside
Ugh, I can still taste that warm, bad smelling, plastic infused tap water that came out of your canteen. Its been 19 years now haha
vayxes
I dont take meds, so ill make all my food black if i want to
Stuey1221
Is true. I drank a bottle Of cough syrup when I was a kid cos it tasted so good. Had to drink charcoal to absorb it
WaterUnderTheRocketAppliances
They wouldn't let you just ride out the trip?
ILikeCuteGifsAndICannotLie
If it was the kind with codiene probs not
Turbolibros
DeadReek
How many minutes before you are hobbling towards the crapper?
AnonymouZero
wait, serious question right now... would this bullshit bind with all that weed i smoked? asking for a friend who needs to pass a piss test.
sweetnaivety
from what I've been reading, it only binds to stuff inside the digestive track. It won't extract anything from your blood or lungs, so...
AnonymouZero
ah, motherfuck. me, i mean, my friend is gonna be real disappointed to hear.
notacobra
By definition, alternative medicine has not been proven to work. Do you know what they call alternative medicine that's been proven to work?
notacobra
Medicine.
lizavp
A bottle of garbage.
TatersWhatsTatersPrecious
Instructions unclear, just ate a bag of Kingsford
Link01
Congrats on eating 10 pounds of sand, also sorry about the cancer.
elsilver22
You have to light them on fire first to activate the charcoal! Silly you!
expialadocious
FrogBotherer
If you insist on consuming activated charcoal...just make sure you do it a few hours after taking your pills. It'll only absorb stuff-
FrogBotherer
present in your GI tract, thankfully most meds get into your bloodstream pretty rapidly.
OtterlyMagnificent
I will say, most of the time if I get sick, I'll pop a couple of activated-charcoal tablets, and usually it clears up within 24 hours.
Bortus
Just found an ecstasy rehab article that said activated charcoal could be used within an hour to 'reduce' drug absorbtion.
Bortus
Any details on how to calculate how long you have to take it depending on the drug? Any details on its effect on recreational drugs?
FrogBotherer
No idea, not a pharmacologist, sorry. Are you ok?
Bortus
Haha yea, I'm fine. Just seemed like it might be usefull to have it if I, or people im with are doing mdma or something.
10110100111
i love the colourpalate of the text, i hate reading a white background at night
ILikeCuteGifsAndICannotLie
Dark mode is life
etcnotect
Palette*
ScarecrowSticks
Night setting is good
kfizz
It's from tumblr, great low contrast theme
BladeTurMoiL
Imho the default should be white text on black everywhere. For one, less strain on hardware. The idiot who set the default white w/ black
BladeTurMoiL
Should be executed
neetnitnootnoot
I feel like that’s a bit extreme lol
BladeTurMoiL
Yeah probably. But when i get done with my 10 hour IT shift and only two applications have the decency to have night mode. I wonder..
justchelsea
I just assumed it was a holdover from ink on paper. You're probably too late to get whoever started that.
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shadefang
If you do not have an illness that requires the medicine, do not take the medicine.
Valkyr1987
Don't take it when you are healthy
WildStingingMapleleaf
If sick = no therefore take = no
asm80dfa8sdfj
You should only be taking it if you're actually need it.
echoingwhisper
The only reasons you should consume activated charcoal is if you are currently sick, poisoned, or have been directed to do so by a MD
echoingwhisper
Activated charcoal can remove medications that you may be prescribed and jeopardize your health or treatment.
echoingwhisper
If you are on meds seek medical advice prior to doing a “cleanse” or any diet change to verify you will not cause harm to yourself.
YourNeighborhoodLesbian
So let's say you drink it with alcohol, what happens?
situasia5
Nothing. You get drunk.
trybuttstuff
Activated charcoal doesn't bind alcohol. Nothing would happen - doctor
Snooj
You activate unlimited alcohol consumption.
FlyingAsian1202
Sounds expensive
cellocalypse
Ya wanna see me turn into a super alcoholic 3? It's beyond a super alcoholic 2, an ascended alcoholic
bigboneded
You take it before you drink so it's in the stomach when the alcohol shows up, and it helps avoid a hangover.
foxsdream
Taking an antioxidant like NAC (n-acetyl l-cysteine) to break down the acetaldehyde produced by you’re liver is the way to go.
CocaineAndSelfPleasure
It does help in my experience. Mostly took it if I drank too much and or before bed. It also dehydrates you though so def want water too
PistonPrincess
My sister said you won't be hungover but I'm on meds so I haven't tried it
YourNeighborhoodLesbian
Makes sense if there is still alcohol in your system that hasn't been absorbed, the sleeping absorption has to be part of hangovers
YourNeighborhoodLesbian
Or after a night of drinking?
wittybnut
Taking vitamin b1 before heavy drinking can minimize a hang over.
SirKaldar
Asking the real questions.
libaf
It only binds with stuff in the stomach and in the ileum and colon. That is, stuff not yet in the bloodstream. So not really a hangover cure
YourNeighborhoodLesbian
Buuuttt when you drink it takes stime for the alcohol to absorb, so if you drank it with some still in your stomach, would it help something
libaf
Checked and apparently it doesn't bind alcohol.
dghammer
Shit like a pet coon.
YourNeighborhoodLesbian
It would be interesting
Th3H1ghlander
Used to take an activated charcoal pill just before a heavy night out drinking,or just after if I forgot.Seemed to help but possibly placebo
AyeBraine
For one, to mitigate poisoning, you have to take not one tablet of activated charcoal but at least a whole blister of them, preferably more
littlebooks
Alcohol then becomes just lots of calories and no fun, like it is for us who metabolize alcohol stupid-fast. Boring and expensive!
cellocalypse
By the power of vodka!!!
Aelok
"boring and expensive" see Everclear. Cheap and a small amount goes a long way. Never drink straight.
Turbolibros
"Natural remedies are good".
toastedspikes
SOME, yes. My mother knows a use for almost every plant she can find, and experiments to see how useful it is. A witch, really.
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toastedspikes
Absolutely agree.
StarkRG
Natural remedies CAN be good, but they should still be treated the same as you would pharmaceutical remedies.
TlsGrz
They can be, if there is something to remedy. As the post said, charcoal does work as medicine
GrumpyOldMillennial
Nightshade tea is the perfect cure for migraines. Make it wrong though, and it will cure your migraine, and end your student loans.
Myrectumhousesasmallindonesianfamily
Honestly ask most if these people to even define what qualifies as a 'natural' remedy and they can't
NiftyGoblin
natural remedies that work well are often processed and turned into medicine, yes natural remedies work but we've developed ways for them>
sirkickass77
NiftyGoblin
>to work better and to our advantages. People need to stop acting like medicine is this alien thing scientists made mixing poison.
karlthefunruiner
Political problems and police brutality plaguing your country, try all natural WOLVES
FantabulousMan
Unfortunately canine units are used by the police, and they have zero compunction about brutally killing any that aren't on their side.
siilverbolt3
I was about to ask what artificial wolves were, but then...that's basically just dogs.
PedanticGonkDroid
Look, I'm willing to give it a go
Sh4dowWalker96
Natural remedies (like various teas!) do actually work for minor things and are good. But none will do shit like cure cancer or COVID-19.
latinomartino
There was a post. Jasmine tea for an upset stomach, chemo for cancer. Nothing wrong with “natural” remedies but like, listen to a doctor.
Turbolibros
1/3 Just to clarify, I am not against any medicine that works, either natural or synthetic. What grinds my gears is people stating and
Turbolibros
2/3 believing that everything "natural" is both effective and *harmless*; and that any man made medicine is "unnatural", or at least
shadefang
My go-to counter example for that is a nice, simple, naturally occurring mineral. Asbestos.
Turbolibros
Mine is tobacco and poisonous mushrooms: very natural and organic!
Turbolibros
3/3 "suspicious". They always have anecdotal evidence (always positive of course), but never a truly exhaustive study.
latinomartino
Agreed! That’s why quotes around natural. Everything can have issues.
ThankYouForYourTime
Side effects of taking this synthetic, pharmaceutically produced medication may cause liver failure, immune suppression, blood clots..
ThankYouForYourTime
Cancer, heart palpitations, sudden mood swings, vomiting, diarrhea. But don’t worry! It’s perfectly safe and approved so buy it for $900.
ThankYouForYourTime
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25355584/
SydneySleeper
So your source is a paper that says at least half of those deaths were from people refusing to follow instructions anyway?
ThankYouForYourTime
And the other half was people taking them correctly.
ThankYouForYourTime
People are downvoting like Pharmaceutical Companies haven’t releasing multiple drugs that have hurt or killed people.
noneofyourbussiness
Downvoting because Nature also has produced some stuff that hurts and kills people... like, a lot of stuff...
TheBigBadBonerBiter
More like people downvoting your dumb whataboutism bullshit.
ThankYouForYourTime
Ok! I guess the Opioid epidemic is preferable to natural treatments for pain like marijuana. Pharmaceutical companies don’t give af.
Iloveweed13
This is true but natural medicines have also killed people so u choose
ThankYouForYourTime
Considering your username, I choose weed to naturally treat my anxiety versus Xanax.
artistandascholar2000
Anyone know where I can pick up an ibuprofen latte, sounds like just what I need.
MinisterofToques
ooh girl I had one of those once and it did not end well, unless you enjoy catheters
cousteau
It's called Irish Coffee
pandemicpolemic
No shit that sounds amazing. Better than my usual ibuprofen-Cheerios-egg scramble
AsianLeprechaun
In the morning, your medicine cabinet.
theonlyjarrod
I think you can find those at Cafe Advil.
RainbowAmoeba
Sounds perfect actually
Purkitten
I'd prefer an enema!
oilgod
I'd have three of those a day, please.
CritterrCatcher
Yeah I’m here for that, double please
Feralarchon
seriously an ibuprofen iced coffee sounds fucking perfect
secretagentdoubleobeaver
Find the nearest Navy Corpsman
Isiel89
Menstruating people everywhere would kill for an ibuprofen latte.
Rubinoid
Shh don't let the military docs know you know about ibuprofen lattes!
RustyDoorNail
Join the military
allofyoursmiles
Ya beat me to it.
GRZMNKY
Not sure if ex-military or old... or both.
NotWhatYouExpect
I'm pretty sure the military whips that shit up as a cure-all
Leithoa
Paris island.
HarryPotter918
It’s on the secret Starbucks menu.
mememan19
I'd like something a little stronger, maybe a codeine mocha
orbitn
I'll take an oxycolada
bogus1983
Just cut to the chase and make mine an Islay, neat.
JustADudeWhoLikesSpace
Extra strength with "Add 5 Xanax".
Schlovia
Just need a way to mask how bitter it is, and I might have an idea
Shpielers
Ex or current marine?
swedeonamoose
i usually just do voltaren/vodka drinks.
shahbrahdaman
I also need my serotonin sunday
AirplaneNerd
Caffeine and ibuprofen? I've got heartburn just thinking about it! I'll still take two, please.
nosaucesbutapplesauces
Ok so my dad is a family doc, he has told us many times that we should take medicine with a LITTLE bit of caffeine if we need it asap.
AirplaneNerd
That's probably true. Excedrin is basically just 1 aspirin + 1 tylenol + 1 coffee's worth of caffeine.
aintnothinbutahounddog28
Whoever wrote that last part must be young! I get the comparison theyre going for, but an ibuprofen latte sounds amazing! Bad choice
Oprean
I was just thinking that, mmmmmmm
bgsteiner
Reason 1 why I dont drink. So I can take ibuprofen when ever I want.
TurdHurdler
I thought it was only Tylenol (acetaminophen) that you can’t mix with alcohol.
zenton
That’s what I understood as well.
WhenIsItNotAGoodTime4Pie
The liver toxicity of Tylenol is extremely close to the recommended dose. I won’t even keep it in my house.
Arthurtwoshedsjackson
Are you a former soldier?
nosaucesbutapplesauces
Make mine a double
BatmanAndCradleRobin
the secret ingredient is drugs
hamburgerous
I see you're over 30 too.
NotmyUsername2000
I was thinking I could use some and I only just turned 30. ;_;
hamburgerous
I'm only 33 and shit is getting creaky.
Ornatenut
Turned 30, slept wrong, neck hasn't been right in months now
OregonFlyer
Fuck you. 48 here. ???
timmy26
Just made it to 25 actually
turbo13
That's when it all starts going downhill from what my friends and I have all experienced.
1776Pancakes
Omg! You have SO much to look forward to ?
NZSheeps
But over 30 in your soul?
ThatWhichRemains
Fuck I feel I aged 10 year these past six months...
timmy26
With a body feeling like 60
BunchaCrunchOfHuman
Most women are slurping these down once a month anyway. Starbucks could make a killing
TheRealGeorgeMcfly
Happy 40th birthday
Richter12x2
Thanks a latte
TheGhostofLouReed
I felt that in my knees.
GodsFoot
My back
TheRealGeorgeMcfly
My impending heart attack
Demmayyy
Air came out my nose +1
butterbuncheesefries
I'm 30 and everything hurts
ArtSmarse
Don't worry, it gets worse.
antidumb
Thanks, but my 40th is actually on Thursday.
Tarmaccian
If you’re lucky you’ll remember it by Sunday...
antidumb
I woke up with a headache today and my kid head butting me. I’m not sure I’ll remember *Sunday* by Sunday.
HeySweden
Thanks, now wheres the latte?
TheRealGeorgeMcfly
Comin right up!!
Leithoa
You have to make it yourself. But do it on your break the customers need their coffee first.
uzidoesit2
Yeah, where's his latte?
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
His latte's late.
ThisAccountIsFailing
Duck you shorsey!
10110100111
make sure you get a chaser full of PPIs for your ulcer after bud ;)
artistandascholar2000
Sounds delish
KamalaKilledJoe
AHCTUALLY - they've proven ulcers are due to an infection, and can be cured with antibiotics. If you have an ulcer and your Dr isn't aware,
KamalaKilledJoe
Update them: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/peptic-ulcer/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20354229
OtherErinFromTheOffice
Ulcers have multiple causes, including H. Pylori *and* the abuse of NSAIDs.
10110100111
this
Dishware
It's mainly caused by H. Pylori but not uniquely.
VagrantDust
I don't know what PPI is but that's my baby nephew's word for coloring. I don't think that helps ulcers, but it is soothing.
Brunoemf90
PPI are a type of medication that inhibits acid secretion in the stomach, reducing heartburn. Omeprazole (Prilosec) is a common example.
mcflymetothemoon
Proton pump inhibitors
Leithoa
Half a bottle of minty chalk isn't the right course of action?
TemetNosce000
Those are antacids
10110100111
also what's been said here for charcoal applies directly to grapefruit juice too.
dragonsalsa
Grapefruit does the opposite of charcoal. Charcoal blocks, grapefruit increases. Take adderall with a grapefruit drink and see what happens
KRicci
Ya, grapefruit and Effexor fucked me over for a while
DarkestKink
No it doesn't
ilikethisplaceyouguyshavecats
I knew charcoal was for poisoning but never knew the specifics. Also never knew about grapefruit which freaked me out cuz I love it
FlatPlutoSociety
1) No. Grapefruit interferes with absorption of drugs that are metabolized by a specific enzyme. The mechanism is totally different, and
FlatPlutoSociety
2) applies to a much narrower range of drugs. Grapefruit juice won't bind to any old thing in your stomach like charcoal will.
CyborgScribe
Not really. Grapefruit juice is a lot less predicatable and doesnt treat all compounds the same.
tantalumRM
Throw in some st.johns wart tithe mix!
Casteelgrey
Everybody told me this was the "cure" for my ADHD for years. Assholes.
JaxJamesTheTenaciousTurtle
That being said, what kind of maniac just straight up drinks grapefruit juice? Grapefruit is super bitter
dragonsalsa
If you need 20mg of adderall but only have a 10mg tablet - that’s when you want to use grapefruit juice.
KRicci
I like it a lot personally, but I hate unsweetened tea or coffee. Developed taste?
orbitn
It's fun to drink if you take one of those miracle berry lozenges that makes it taste different!
ChoovaMonster
I used to eat one everyday in highschool...then I started taking meds and couldn't eat grapefruit anymore which made me sad
ChoovaMonster
Plus my brother worked in a psych ward of a prison and they had to list grapefruit as an allergy for some patients because it would boost
ChoovaMonster
Their meds and make them go crazy or OD depending
thomn8r
You've never had a greyhound?
baricelas
I miss grapefruit. I had a weird week when I was drinking La Croix Pamplemousse (delicious) before my wife informed me of my idiocy.
CarlosBenjamin
Look at the ingredients. Grapefruit isn’t one. You’re good to go.
Sirtopumhat
Unsure how much grapefruit is in the la Croix... Likely just oils so it would do very little.. not a doctor just my hunch. Of course check.
asm80dfa8sdfj
It's La Croix, so there's approximately 1 drop of grapefruit
HotDogPantsX
The amount of grapefruit flavor of a person in an adjacent room ate one then burped. Am not a food scientist
ryukochan
One drop per boxcar of soda water...La Croix is homeopathic soda.
SupportGeek
Isn't it just Terpenes not oils in those?
Sirtopumhat
They have a grapefruit tied to a string that the cans bump on their way by !
SupportGeek
I've always felt like the flavor was from someone thinking REALLY hard about grapefruit next to the packaging line.
manolyk23
Not true. Charcoal will block absorption of everything and grapefruit will only block specific medications. Also, grapefruit can boost them
DarkestKink
Nope
TrundImaginationBandit
Boosts opiates, I know that
buddhafw
boosts ecstasy
10110100111
https://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/121610p26.shtml table at endis specific, i meant in general think for yourself and be warey
manolyk23
I get you may have meant that but that isn’t even close to what you wrote. What you wrote was misinformation. Too much of that right now.
Nize426
No. You said what's said in the post about charcoal can be directly applied to grapefruit juice as in, you're saying grapefruit juice 1/2
Nize426
shouldn't be taken regularly unless you have medial reasons to. I would be more careful as to not spread misinformation 2/2.
Icouri
Really? Why?
garuffthehorse
True of Zoloft too
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
it's not the same as activated charcoal, but it can boost the effects of some drugs, and diminish the effects of others. If anything you're
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
taking can be effected by grapefruit juice it will say so on the pill bottle or package insert. It's a non-issue for most people
TheRealGeorgeMcfly
They both nasty
igotagifforthat
Next time you see a medication commercial listen closely to the fast talker towards the end.
dghammer
Oh I have...the side effects of most TV hawked meds sound worse than the malady.
GoliathSkittles
"medication commercial" The American way.
mishnitsa
It inhibits a protein that breaks down certain medications, so you can end up accidentally overdosing because it’s not being broken down 1
Animorphs
I used to take it with opiates hoping it would make them last longer.
JPRiddles
I've done this with caffeine
somnif
It can also do the opposite. Sometimes those enzymes actually activate medications, and grapefruit juice stops that process.
mishnitsa
2 at the rate it should be and your regular dose just keeps compounding because your previous dose wasn’t metabolized. Phenobarbital’s one
SleeperXib
This is news to me but probably should be common knowledge.
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
Just FYI for any drug affected by grapefruit juice it will be mentioned on the bottle or package insert.
Ryebread91
Most if not all statin drugs as well.
DYLANLEE79
Grapefruit messes with lots of common drugs.
HavelTh3Rock
I think it's the citric acid.
Unix347
I think it's a specific amino acid in grapefruit. That's why medications will specifically say, "Do not take with grapefruit"
TheFirehawk
Recently had grapefruit without knowing it messes with my meds. Had an allergic reaction, it scared the shit out of me.
Unix347
The most common side effect is that the drug metabolises faster than intended, making time release medications potentially dangerous
ArealJim
Or more fun
Unix347
I can verify it works with LSD
mynameisnotFREDmymomjustcallsmethat
Yup orange juice did that with some of my ADD meds once. Not fun I felt "all electricky" heart pounding...fun
Icouri
Huh. Good thing I don't like it anyway
10110100111
it applies to many citrus fruis https://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/121610p26.shtml scroll to the bottom for a table
Noyoudontknowmefromsomewhere
or for the lazy...
WaterPistolGunnner
Dr. Here. Gfruit juice boosts a protein (cyp450) that breaks down certain meds. Charcoal blocks some meds from ever being absorbed (as above
orbitn
Cimetidine (Tagamet) too, right? Don't think OTC meds won't interact with what you take, especially if what you take ends in -codone.
dorathadestroyer
It doesn’t boost the enzyme, it blocks it, meaning a larger amount is able to enter your blood stream. Am a pharmacist.
DarkestKink
Not if prodrug
DarkestKink
Doctor or pharmacist
ryukochan
In the US, pharmacists are styled “DPh” or “PharmD” - Doctor of Pharmacy.
DarkestKink
MD or PharmD is what I meant as no one really refers to pharmacists as doctors.
charliesheena
A pharmacist is a doctor.
DarkestKink
Like a chiropractor