He risked going to jail and his son losing his dad over getting revenge. He's a selfish idiot who got lucky. This isn't about the pedo. No one here cares that the pedo is dead.
Justice was not done when Jeffrey Doucet was not sentenced to be skinned alive and rolled in a mix of broken glass and rusty staples. I have a cousin that has been sentenced for pedo-related crimes (Just name one, chances are he did it) and honestly I still hope that one day he dies a horrific, violent and painful death for the things he has done. Never forgive, never forget and no mercy for monsters like this.
I can not endorse this post simply because I am an adherent to the ideas of Macheticine™ so for me to use a gun would be immoral. A Machete, on the other hand...
My dad psychologically tortured me and financially abused me until I could finally break away and go no-contact. I can't imagine having a dad that cares so much about someone that they'd fight to protect them.
To be fair, a killing like this *can* come from a dad who wants to fight to protect their kid, or it can come from a possessive instinct that treats their kid like property and doesn't want them "damaged".
As someone that was treated as property to be abused when I did wrong and that was bragged about to aggrandize their image when I did two, maybe three good things in my whole life, I was worth less than his fucking 1998 truck to him. Its insanely difficult for me to believe that was the case, its not impossible, sure, but that is insanely difficult for me to believe.
He put is want for revenge over his son's need for support. Killing him didn't magically make what that monster did go away. His son needed him to support him but he risked jail time for revenge. What if he had gotten done for murder? Now his son would have have felt guilty that if he hadn't said anything he would still have had his dad around
I can imagine that the knowledge of what that man did to his son would drive anyone to want to do what he did. Some just don’t have gun licenses or access to a gun. It doesn’t mean they belong in a psych ward.
Judes should auto deny any and all defensive strategies such as God or the devil made me commanded me etc from court. Let's base our judgment on facts not fairy tails
That way, some DA will give them a slap on the wrist, and they continue to go out and harm more children. Maybe if everything wasn't a plea bargain these days, I would agree.
Alleged. Ok, ffs , you can’t take justice into your hands no matter “justified”. The alleged abductor sounds like a POS, but murdering him is bs until tried.
They legally have to say alleged until the trial is over, regardless of actual knowledge of the crime, which in this case sounds like there was no doubt he was the one who committed it
Its understandable but that doesn't make it justified. A solution that renders even more victims doesn't seem like a good solution to me. (Where does it end?) Being there for his kid instead of risking being locked up in jail for decades would probably be the better choice. But I can imagine all logic an reason go out the window when something like this happens to your child. Which is why it's so important to have professionals guide and support victims of trauma.
Subjective morality is exactly why we don't let family on juries etc. It is impossible to maintain any semblance of justice without the dispassionate division of strangers looking at the allegations. Imgur can whoop about this all they like but there are people that shoot doctors to protect the unborn who claim similar rights. Be careful who you cheer for
Defending Hitler? I was pointing out the how ridiculous it is to say that saying "allegedly" doesn't mean the person is innocent even though we have the precedent of innocent until proven guilty. Guess some people didn't get that.
So many people applauding the actions of this vigilante.
Regardless of their crimes, you can’t take the law into your own hands. There is a process, we have rules. Rouge gunmen are one of the worst problems this country has. There is no “good version” of the mass shooter. No morally justified gun violence.
The public should not be turning to guns to fix what they perceive to be societies problems. Street justice is not justice. We cannot allow precedents like this to be set.
It's 1980s Louisiana. The guy was low rent karate teacher arrested for kidnapping and SA on a male minor. He wasn't getting a slap on the wrist. Don't try to justify gun vigilantism by pretending the perp was getting away with it like he's some college athlete rapist. The only person getting a slap on the wrist was the dude claiming "Jesus made me do it" as his defense, and I don't think that result was much better for the justice system.
"He was an instructor and first time offender. So he'll get 1 year probation" look at what the catholic church did for decades. Child Molestor's often re-offend and the court system fully enables them to victimize more kids.
The Catholic Church is one of the most influential and globally powerful organizations in the history of the world.... Aaaand you came to the conclusion that the priests were getting cut deals with Catholic judges because *child molesters* are the ones that have the system rigged... Also, I'm not seeing that quote anywhere in the article. I'll admit if a gay pedo kidnapping and raping a minor during the AIDS panic was somehow ruled for 1 year probation that this might be "a Time to Kill" moment
Potentially nothing when looking at end results. Those who whine that it isn’t typically hang their hat on revenge being a personal (and often emotional) event not sanctioned by “the state” while justice is “the state” taking action with or without the advice, consent, or consultation of the victim (or even no action at all for a number of reasons)
Yeah, imgur is very much pro murder when it comes to terrible people. As a pacifist that doesn't want murder for anything i get downvoted for condemning these situations.
I got downvoted to hell for saying that the cops killing Ashli Babbitt was maybe not good, and cheering the cops for killing the "right" people is maybe not good.
unlike many bullshit situations where cops claim "there was no choice" in that instance they absolutely had no choice. if they let her in, she would either attack them while the rest trickled in or open the floodgates for the rest of them. considering they were literally under siege, this is about the worst example you could bring up that cops shouldn't be killing people. i agree with the notion but there they were less cops and more soldiers trying to hold the line, for lack of a better phrase.
shinagami091
Both sides suffered? The guy was shot in the head and killed, not nearly enough suffering.
SecondSince
Sounds like Roland needed to get the same treatment. Enabling piece of shit!
thetinymonarch
I understand why he did it but it was incredible selfies of him to do so
thisisausernamelikeanyothersbutthisonesmellsweird
zylokun
No, one side suffered the other got less than what they deserved. Fuck that pedo
thetinymonarch
He risked going to jail and his son losing his dad over getting revenge. He's a selfish idiot who got lucky. This isn't about the pedo. No one here cares that the pedo is dead.
pravetz
“Why yes society would be so much better if dads just murdered the people who harmed their daughters” - let’s not celebrate vigilante justice dudes
m4uboy
given the 3/1000 sexual assault commission to prison sentence ratio, i think it might just be a great idea if more rapists got murked.
Deathtospam
Fuck Roland Doucet, too.
Hukkie
Justice was not done when Jeffrey Doucet was not sentenced to be skinned alive and rolled in a mix of broken glass and rusty staples. I have a cousin that has been sentenced for pedo-related crimes (Just name one, chances are he did it) and honestly I still hope that one day he dies a horrific, violent and painful death for the things he has done. Never forgive, never forget and no mercy for monsters like this.
dragonflynpenguinfarts
SergeyPrkl
Jeffrey Douche.
mygodhasabiggerdick
I can not endorse this post simply because I am an adherent to the ideas of Macheticine™ so for me to use a gun would be immoral. A Machete, on the other hand...
fishbicyclerepairman
MFer should be rotting in jail
idiotsonfire
My dad psychologically tortured me and financially abused me until I could finally break away and go no-contact. I can't imagine having a dad that cares so much about someone that they'd fight to protect them.
pgdave
To be fair, a killing like this *can* come from a dad who wants to fight to protect their kid, or it can come from a possessive instinct that treats their kid like property and doesn't want them "damaged".
idiotsonfire
As someone that was treated as property to be abused when I did wrong and that was bragged about to aggrandize their image when I did two, maybe three good things in my whole life, I was worth less than his fucking 1998 truck to him. Its insanely difficult for me to believe that was the case, its not impossible, sure, but that is insanely difficult for me to believe.
eromitlab
Jeffrey Doucet?
notyoubizness
Do we really need all this fucking jumping through hoops and pretending? He killed him because that fucker deserved it. No excuses necessary. Go free.
thetinymonarch
He put is want for revenge over his son's need for support. Killing him didn't magically make what that monster did go away. His son needed him to support him but he risked jail time for revenge. What if he had gotten done for murder? Now his son would have have felt guilty that if he hadn't said anything he would still have had his dad around
PaddyPatrick
Probation for being jury judge and executioner?
bigk001
he's just like God. What a great role model.
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Mercurybird
I can imagine that the knowledge of what that man did to his son would drive anyone to want to do what he did. Some just don’t have gun licenses or access to a gun. It doesn’t mean they belong in a psych ward.
Sensiblyinteresting
The lawyer had a plan and it worked
wheeeeeeeeeeee
Wish more would step up.
DamnedIfYouDo
I'd have done the same to the abuser.
xizar
Couldn't tell the difference between right and wrong? I dunno... seems dude had a firm grasp on what's right.
TlsGrz
“…directed by what Gary sensed as the voice of Jesus…“ for when you need that insanity plea as a backup plan.
RooGryphon
Judes should auto deny any and all defensive strategies such as God or the devil made me commanded me etc from court. Let's base our judgment on facts not fairy tails
Sensiblyinteresting
This was 1985, this wouldn't really work too well now
kahldune
Gotta get one of them Trump appointed judges.
icouldntthinkofabetterusername2
So there is some use for religion…
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PragmaticPrimate
Sure let's get rid of the rule of law and just solve everything by vigilantism. I'm sure that won't lead to any problems
bigk001
LOL since the law is complete BS, I agree with you.
AmZero85
That way, some DA will give them a slap on the wrist, and they continue to go out and harm more children. Maybe if everything wasn't a plea bargain these days, I would agree.
TwoSpeedTony
Thewayofthebear
Yoink
AnUpvote
lovehandlesmessiah
.454 Casull?
enderite
bruudwin
what movie was this please? haven't seen Paul Rudd choppy before
korvorn
I believe this is from Mute where he plays a side character.
vericon151
Alleged. Ok, ffs , you can’t take justice into your hands no matter “justified”. The alleged abductor sounds like a POS, but murdering him is bs until tried.
adrianontherocks
They legally have to say alleged until the trial is over, regardless of actual knowledge of the crime, which in this case sounds like there was no doubt he was the one who committed it
OurLordLucifer
Have a kid, then have this happen to them. Then get off your high horse.
Djoarhet
Its understandable but that doesn't make it justified. A solution that renders even more victims doesn't seem like a good solution to me. (Where does it end?) Being there for his kid instead of risking being locked up in jail for decades would probably be the better choice. But I can imagine all logic an reason go out the window when something like this happens to your child. Which is why it's so important to have professionals guide and support victims of trauma.
raptorlight3000
Subjective morality is exactly why we don't let family on juries etc. It is impossible to maintain any semblance of justice without the dispassionate division of strangers looking at the allegations. Imgur can whoop about this all they like but there are people that shoot doctors to protect the unborn who claim similar rights. Be careful who you cheer for
Goatfer
I guess Hitler was just allegedly guilt too.
Sensiblyinteresting
Pretty interesting your immediate response to this is to comment defending Hitler.
Goatfer
Defending Hitler? I was pointing out the how ridiculous it is to say that saying "allegedly" doesn't mean the person is innocent even though we have the precedent of innocent until proven guilty. Guess some people didn't get that.
Goatfer
Its taking it to an extreme to show an example. even if they weren't tried and sentenced guilty we still know they are guilty.
Jawesome19
Yeah...no ugh Jesus told me to do it though it wasn't the blind rage of finding out an old man repeatedly raped my son, not that. It was the jesus
adrianontherocks
Jesu served a purpose in this case, getting him the insanity plea.
BeenisWeenis
THE JESUS? Hmmmm
keystotheairlock
It's Louisiana. Far less legitimate claims have held up in court. That lawyer knew exactly what he was doing.
hippocampus
The rape was the reason to do it. Then some Mexican dude named Jesus gave him a proper plan how to do it.
dragonflynpenguinfarts
redwolf2k
Jesus also sold him the gun
SteepedGardenMrsChen
Paid the guy $50 and got the plan on a bar napkin.
BobbyVegana
Gary:Thanks Jesus *Gary taking the gun from Jesus
Jesús: de nada.
Jawesome19
Lmao
StarscreamAndHutch
So how do non belivers of a god get to do the same thing if needed?
TyrannusEquus
You're a sudden temporary believer. A miracle. Prove that diddnt happen. There you go.
Sasurau
"My client pleads temporary insanity on finding my child was trafficked across state lines and raped."
"We the jury find him not guilty."
Mortbise
There's always the flying spaghetti monster
marsgoose
Ask your lawyer.
m4uboy
if anything being an atheist and still having jesus tell you to do something makes you even more insane
mrthewhitee
I mean you can still claim Jesus told you to do it and now your a believer cause he came to you in person to tell you to kill someone.
Sensiblyinteresting
Well, you see.. you do like this guys lawyer probably told him to do and lie about it.
CaptTelnet
So many people applauding the actions of this vigilante.
Regardless of their crimes, you can’t take the law into your own hands. There is a process, we have rules. Rouge gunmen are one of the worst problems this country has. There is no “good version” of the mass shooter. No morally justified gun violence.
Skeevethegreat
How exactly is this a "mass shooter" situation?
AmZero85
People wouldn't feel helpless and turning to guns, if the court system actually handed out appropriate punishments. Instead it's a slap on the wrist.
CaptTelnet
The public should not be turning to guns to fix what they perceive to be societies problems. Street justice is not justice. We cannot allow precedents like this to be set.
TheDrunkNinja
It's 1980s Louisiana. The guy was low rent karate teacher arrested for kidnapping and SA on a male minor. He wasn't getting a slap on the wrist. Don't try to justify gun vigilantism by pretending the perp was getting away with it like he's some college athlete rapist. The only person getting a slap on the wrist was the dude claiming "Jesus made me do it" as his defense, and I don't think that result was much better for the justice system.
AmZero85
"He was an instructor and first time offender. So he'll get 1 year probation" look at what the catholic church did for decades. Child Molestor's often re-offend and the court system fully enables them to victimize more kids.
TheDrunkNinja
The Catholic Church is one of the most influential and globally powerful organizations in the history of the world.... Aaaand you came to the conclusion that the priests were getting cut deals with Catholic judges because *child molesters* are the ones that have the system rigged... Also, I'm not seeing that quote anywhere in the article. I'll admit if a gay pedo kidnapping and raping a minor during the AIDS panic was somehow ruled for 1 year probation that this might be "a Time to Kill" moment
FeloniousMonk13
This, to me, is more like justice than what a court can do
telemonianajax
What is the difference between justice and revenge?
aerialtruckdriver
Potentially nothing when looking at end results. Those who whine that it isn’t typically hang their hat on revenge being a personal (and often emotional) event not sanctioned by “the state” while justice is “the state” taking action with or without the advice, consent, or consultation of the victim (or even no action at all for a number of reasons)
crushingbore
Anything that puts a child rapist in the cold, hard ground is justice.
daguq
Vigilantism? On imgur?
spazztastic
It was 1985. Wouldn't happen today.
LordLobster
Yeah, imgur is very much pro murder when it comes to terrible people. As a pacifist that doesn't want murder for anything i get downvoted for condemning these situations.
Recidivous
I respect you being a pacifist, but I've long admitted to myself that I'm not. I think some terrible people are better off not being around at all.
pgdave
I got downvoted to hell for saying that the cops killing Ashli Babbitt was maybe not good, and cheering the cops for killing the "right" people is maybe not good.
Bhargo
well when the "right people" is literal domestic terrorists, at they very least its understandable
Retrikaethan
unlike many bullshit situations where cops claim "there was no choice" in that instance they absolutely had no choice. if they let her in, she would either attack them while the rest trickled in or open the floodgates for the rest of them. considering they were literally under siege, this is about the worst example you could bring up that cops shouldn't be killing people. i agree with the notion but there they were less cops and more soldiers trying to hold the line, for lack of a better phrase.