JFC! Time to seize these shit bags. They need to start disappearing, forced vacation, these fascist scum won’t respond to tolerance. But they do know how fear works. Hey Nazis it’s your turn to run & hide!
I used to be totally opposed to gun ownership in this country. I still think that civilians shouldn’t have them, but I’ve started to think I should get one for myself with the way shit is going down with these nazis
I don't see where this is a digital threat of terrorism, and feels like a major violation of the 1st Amendment, Free Speech. We have the right to discuss and ridicule our government.
Last August, I reposted this to Imgur: /gallery/0b9UOnw saying, "The Road to Fascism is Lined With People Telling You To Stop Overreacting." https://imgur.com/gallery/0b9UOnw Okay, folks, NOW what do you say . . . ?
This was Wisconsin over the last 15 years. Thankfully, we've started taking back control, first with the Governor's office, and now with the Supreme Court. Never stop fighting.
The short answer is that years of voter neglect have led to politicians that wield tremendous influence over largely uninformed voters. Its a big problem that is only going to get worse over time unless people get informed and get involved at the lower levels of government.
And for those of you who want better democracy, check out FairVote and look up STV+ voting systems. Join your local chapter. Many states have ballot initiatives that let you force a public vote on a matter without requiring politicians to vote against their own interests.
Ranked choice isn't that great anyway (though it's fine for single positions like governor). However, Florida *does* have voter ballot initiatives! Which means if you want to stick it to Ron DeSantis, you should go check out your local FairVote chapter and work on getting an initiative going today!
I’m a South Carolinian, and I’m keeping an eye on my own state. Lindsey Graham is such a lil bitch that if the fascists take over, he’ll bend over and implement all their laws in a heartbeat.
Bigger moves are harder, but if you can go to your immediate north or south to North Carolina or Georgia you'll find things better in the medium-long term. Short term not much better.
Not North Carolina - they just got a Republican Supermajority in the state. North Carolina and Tennessee are about to be the fascist playground, so if you're anything but a white straight man in those states, chances are good that your rights will be on the chopping block.
That's why I was talking medium/long term vs short term. In the short term, yes, NC isn't any better than SC. In the medium term it's way, way, way better. Democrats can and have won statewide there. The statewide defeats have been close. The veto-override majority is by one seat after a dem in a D+23 legislature seat changed parties. Dems need to regain the state supreme court and they can do a lot of good from there. South Carolina there's just no hope for dems whatsoever. It's lost.
I think if you live in Florida you're not the one who gets to decide the meaning behind your words and actions, they decide it for you and punish you when they're able to twist it enough to make you look maybe guilty.
You say it won't stick but the republicans went to great lengths to secure the judiciary to their cause. The first string to their bow was the January 6th coup. The second will be the compromised courts which will legitimize their next attempt with a rubber stamp of approval.
She is the statistician that refused to publish false CoViD-19 data at DeSantis' demand. He had her fired. She continued to publish Florida State CoViD-19 data with publicly available information on her own website. DeSantis then had her home raided by S.W.A.T. claiming that she had stolen state owned data. She was acquitted and then ran for Matt Gaetz's congressional seat. She lost to Gaetz. Now DeSantis is pulling this crap on her.
Being a fascist isn't 1:1 equal to being a nazi. They are just regular monsters. The kind that has been in control of a lot of US for the last 200+ years.
He's way worse, and the most malicious part of it is he does it relatively silently while loudmouth fuckers like Trump and MTG get the media's attention.
That's why I don't want Trump to go to prison. I want him to run and lose against DeSantis in the primaries, then run as an independent and take away a quarter of the GOP's base, making sure the Dems win.
This. Trump v. Biden? Biden will win that. DeSantis v. Biden v. Trump? Biden will *DEFINITELY* win that. Biden v. DeSantis? That's best-case-scenario a 50/50 toss-up.
Because he's not an idiot. Trump was a fool, but DeSantis is smart, he won't make the same mistakes Trump did, but he'll do just as much if not more damage.
Yes and no. It's because he doesn't care about being liked. He is smarter. But Trump wants at least some people to adore him which tempers his cruelty.
The big problem I see with Desantis compared to Trump is less to do with intelligence and more with interest. Trump craves the attention, safety, and status that comes with the presidency, but seems to have little interest with actually governing and passing laws, probably cuz he doesn't really have any ideology beyond self-interest. Desantis has shown himself to be VERY interested in passing his claimed ideology into law and using his power as a blunt weapon against his enemies.
KaptainObveeus
what the fuck?
keys79
RoyDMercer
DeSantis Storm Troopers
Chalybos
Hope he visits Texas soon. In a convertible. By a book depository.
dealinwifscum
JFC! Time to seize these shit bags. They need to start disappearing, forced vacation, these fascist scum won’t respond to tolerance. But they do know how fear works. Hey Nazis it’s your turn to run & hide!
TheRockDude
Cuppoteam
Police state run by insane person.
saeheria
I used to be totally opposed to gun ownership in this country. I still think that civilians shouldn’t have them, but I’ve started to think I should get one for myself with the way shit is going down with these nazis
razark
As long as /they/ have them, /we/ should be equally prepared.
pirateninjaunicornattacksquad
Straight up fascism.
nopenopenopenothanks
https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg5q7k/rebekah-jones-viral-claims-about-her-sons-arrest-by-fascist-desantis-dont-match-available-evidence Vice is saying this isn’t exactly all they found, but I don’t trust anyone any more - least of all Florida.
DrKenAdams
*This* is the correct time to say "if they can come for me, they can come for you".
MKUltraMega
KaptainObveeus
what the fuck seriously? this is getting out of control
BearsDontCare
What is horrifying is those people who carry out these orders knowing how heinous they are.
ADitzyDude
TheRockDude
Florida and DeSantis are shit for many reasons, but in this case
HopelessNecr0mantic
The replies attacking her in the Twitter thread make me incredibly angry.
RatFromADifferentSewer
I don't use Twitter, but I would like to be angry with you if only to understand
HopelessNecr0mantic
I also do not do the twits. One of the posts here had the link to the Twitter thread.
SomeDetroitGuy
Holy fuck
fractalsphere
DeSantis really is a sicko
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Hey gunhugging assholes. THIS Is the tyranny you pretend to want to protect against.
Imadethisaccounttopost
I don't see where this is a digital threat of terrorism, and feels like a major violation of the 1st Amendment, Free Speech. We have the right to discuss and ridicule our government.
corndude101
Not in Florida.
InfographicProject
Sounds like a series of high profile constitutional violations.
ILikeToCallItLostWages
It is, but addressing those takes time and resources, and all the while you still have a kid that's been kidnapped and god knows what else
InfographicProject
Yeah I doubt there is sufficient recompense for this sort of thing.
AppleJoosh
For context, for those who aren’t aware or are for forgetful like me, this is the gov employee DeSantis already came after?
GendouLovesDucklings
Yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebekah_Jones
TheMouseOfMadness
Hey, remember when we compared their actions to Nazis and all you fuckers said that was hyperbole? Do you fucking remember that?
ArcadiaBerger
Last August, I reposted this to Imgur: /gallery/0b9UOnw saying, "The Road to Fascism is Lined With People Telling You To Stop Overreacting." https://imgur.com/gallery/0b9UOnw Okay, folks, NOW what do you say . . . ?
silverback57
Don't forget the people who said that democrats were just a bad.
mouseasw
We still see that being argued daily.
KaptainObveeus
hello, fucker here, but I didn't say that. I also agreed they were nazis (n left intentionally uncapitalized)
januarylover
They're trying to gaslight us into silence. It's fucking fascism 101.
Zreen
Some people here still say it would be hyperbole. I argue with some most weeks nowadays
homoerection
Fuck all of those POS. There is no middle ground anymore. And that’s purposefully. We’re fully fucked.
TheMouseOfMadness
Yeah but I don't think the remaining ones can even say hyperbole, much less spell it
jamieb03303
IHateHumanInteraction
This was Wisconsin over the last 15 years. Thankfully, we've started taking back control, first with the Governor's office, and now with the Supreme Court. Never stop fighting.
qroniq14
How is this legal? What the fuck?
Viper3232
The short answer is that years of voter neglect have led to politicians that wield tremendous influence over largely uninformed voters. Its a big problem that is only going to get worse over time unless people get informed and get involved at the lower levels of government.
PutItInNeutral
It's not. Gerrymandering on the basis of race is highly illegal. But the present SCOTUS won't correct this.
NKato
That's just it, it's not. But the state superior court won't do shit.
AxelBeingCivil
And for those of you who want better democracy, check out FairVote and look up STV+ voting systems. Join your local chapter. Many states have ballot initiatives that let you force a public vote on a matter without requiring politicians to vote against their own interests.
GeneralAnubis
Yeah unfortunately they already outlawed ranked choice in Florida
AxelBeingCivil
Ranked choice isn't that great anyway (though it's fine for single positions like governor). However, Florida *does* have voter ballot initiatives! Which means if you want to stick it to Ron DeSantis, you should go check out your local FairVote chapter and work on getting an initiative going today!
OmegaYeti
If you are not already, this is likely your last chance to leave Florida before they put a price on your head like Texas has done.
Volmaaral
I’m a South Carolinian, and I’m keeping an eye on my own state. Lindsey Graham is such a lil bitch that if the fascists take over, he’ll bend over and implement all their laws in a heartbeat.
Exquisitine
Ex-North Carolinian here; get the fuck out of the south. Fuck the south.
Geistbar
Bigger moves are harder, but if you can go to your immediate north or south to North Carolina or Georgia you'll find things better in the medium-long term. Short term not much better.
Navrodel
Not North Carolina - they just got a Republican Supermajority in the state. North Carolina and Tennessee are about to be the fascist playground, so if you're anything but a white straight man in those states, chances are good that your rights will be on the chopping block.
Volmaaral
It feels shameful to admit nowadays, but I AM a white straight man. Then again, I’m not rich. So… still sorta screwed, just not as extremely.
Geistbar
That's why I was talking medium/long term vs short term. In the short term, yes, NC isn't any better than SC. In the medium term it's way, way, way better. Democrats can and have won statewide there. The statewide defeats have been close. The veto-override majority is by one seat after a dem in a D+23 legislature seat changed parties. Dems need to regain the state supreme court and they can do a lot of good from there. South Carolina there's just no hope for dems whatsoever. It's lost.
UghItsThatGuy
https://ij.org/
LokJok
I don't mean this as a threat, but when you mess with people's kids and also feel like they have nothing to lose, bullets start flyng.
AusSpyder
I think if you live in Florida you're not the one who gets to decide the meaning behind your words and actions, they decide it for you and punish you when they're able to twist it enough to make you look maybe guilty.
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
It's not a threat, it's a fact. This is an extremely stupid game for a fucking state governor's office to start playing.
diesel01
It won’t stick, but that’s likely not the point. The point is to terrorize her through him so she’ll shut up.
AnEvilOverlord
Maybe it will radicalize him and turn him into a hero of democracy in 10 or 15 years.
amuchlessweirdusernamethanIhad
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Username62611
Wh- oh, username.
DukePhelan
You say it won't stick but the republicans went to great lengths to secure the judiciary to their cause. The first string to their bow was the January 6th coup. The second will be the compromised courts which will legitimize their next attempt with a rubber stamp of approval.
KarateCanine
This is the nurse that showed DeSantis was murdering people using covid, right?
surlyshawn
Yep. I can't remember exactly what she did, but it was something involving exposing a Florida/Desantis covid coverup(?).
PutItInNeutral
She is the statistician that refused to publish false CoViD-19 data at DeSantis' demand. He had her fired. She continued to publish Florida State CoViD-19 data with publicly available information on her own website. DeSantis then had her home raided by S.W.A.T. claiming that she had stolen state owned data. She was acquitted and then ran for Matt Gaetz's congressional seat. She lost to Gaetz. Now DeSantis is pulling this crap on her.
KarateCanine
Right. Not nurse. But worked in the health field. My bad on that.
theblondeone
Oh fuck me. :(. Thank you for posting this information. I didn't make the connection to her name, although I do remember this story.
TheFastpaws
All Republicans are Nazis.
surlyshawn
#ARAN
pirateninjaunicornattacksquad
If you have 10 people sitting at a table, and 1 of them is a Nazi, you have 10 Nazis sitting at a table. All Republicans are Nazis.
Gingeherring
GnomeDeGuerre
They are americans, own them, stop searching history for an external comparison.
anothermillennialgettingpaidtoplaywithcomputers
Ok they are fascists who believe they are justified in using violence and force to amass wealth and power and put themselves above the law, so Nazis
GnomeDeGuerre
Being a fascist isn't 1:1 equal to being a nazi. They are just regular monsters. The kind that has been in control of a lot of US for the last 200+ years.
jgjgjgjgjgjgjg
DeSantis is worse than Trump. And that's really saying something.
KaptainObveeus
DerSantis
ImHereToGetDownvotes
He's way worse, and the most malicious part of it is he does it relatively silently while loudmouth fuckers like Trump and MTG get the media's attention.
narniasreal
That's why I don't want Trump to go to prison. I want him to run and lose against DeSantis in the primaries, then run as an independent and take away a quarter of the GOP's base, making sure the Dems win.
ScyntSkunk
This. Trump v. Biden? Biden will win that. DeSantis v. Biden v. Trump? Biden will *DEFINITELY* win that. Biden v. DeSantis? That's best-case-scenario a 50/50 toss-up.
jgjgjgjgjgjgjg
I never thought of it in this way before. Very interesting! It just might work! UPVOTE!
Targe0
Because he's not an idiot. Trump was a fool, but DeSantis is smart, he won't make the same mistakes Trump did, but he'll do just as much if not more damage.
mrthewhitee
Yes and no. It's because he doesn't care about being liked. He is smarter. But Trump wants at least some people to adore him which tempers his cruelty.
BoneDance136
The big problem I see with Desantis compared to Trump is less to do with intelligence and more with interest. Trump craves the attention, safety, and status that comes with the presidency, but seems to have little interest with actually governing and passing laws, probably cuz he doesn't really have any ideology beyond self-interest. Desantis has shown himself to be VERY interested in passing his claimed ideology into law and using his power as a blunt weapon against his enemies.
crushingbore
He's smarter than Trump. He's still an idiot.
FrozenCoast
He went to Yale and Harvard law school he’s. It an idiot. Don’t underestimate him. He’s just a despot.
Animorphs
...that really doesn't mean anything. People from wealthy families go to nice schools.
crushingbore
So did Bush. He's an idiot too.
FrozenCoast
He came from a rich powerful family unlike DeSantis. DeSantis should be hanged, but don’t underestimate him. He is smart.